Oftentimes, it has been described from others in some circles of individuals that coaching is viewed "as a luxury", one of the first things that are cut during an economic downturn or when individuals clients cannot afford it. However, it is often misconceived and can have ramifications as a small investment can have tremendous opportunities for growth and development. In this episode, we explore this misconception and discuss ways to understand how to view coaching as a longer-term success strategy.
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Intro:This is Speaking From The Heart.
Joshua:Welcome back to episode number 32 of Speaking From the Heart.
Joshua:Today we're going to talk about what coaching might mean for you,
Joshua:especially if you think it's a luxury?
Joshua:I hear this quite a lot from a number of different people that, "Oh, I don't
Joshua:have the money because it costs so much.
Joshua:I think I'm just going to put it off.", or I hear oftentimes, "I don't know if
Joshua:I really want to invest this much money into something that I don't know if
Joshua:I'm going to get something out of it.
Joshua:I think I will pass.", and afterwards when the client leaves, put my head on my desk
Joshua:and just think for a moment what could have possibly gone wrong, but then I think
Joshua:about the fact that, maybe, it's about the value that they don't see; the value
Joshua:that we often think about after the fact.
Joshua:Sometimes we want to see the value come immediately from having that
Joshua:interaction with a coach, with maybe the different types of people that
Joshua:are part of the process of helping to become something better; we often want
Joshua:that instant gratification, which I often think that has happened in that
Joshua:cultural mindset has changed a lot over the last three decades when it
Joshua:has come to the advent of the Internet, but we have to think about what this
Joshua:whole concept of coaching is all about.
Joshua:It isn't just about viewing it as a luxury; something that we can put off
Joshua:at any time if we really don't need to expend any extra money, especially with
Joshua:the way the economy is, which even as of this time of the recording, we have
Joshua:gone through quite a number of different events in the world stage as it relates
Joshua:to the value of what time is, and even the money that is invested into something
Joshua:like this, but I think we also have to look at the other side of the fence, which
Joshua:is what are the ramifications for not putting that investment into ourselves?
Joshua:Coaching is not to just think about the ways in which we can improve ourselves,
Joshua:which even in the last episode in which we talked about the five things you
Joshua:might have not known about my business or even myself, we have to consider the
Joshua:fact that it isn't just about what we see from the outward perspective, but
Joshua:what we can view ourselves from the inward perspective, and I often have
Joshua:to talk to clients initially that are prospects in nature about this exercise,
Joshua:because they often think through some of the things that have happened in their
Joshua:lives that coaching that I'm going to be receiving better darn well changed me
Joshua:forever, otherwise I want my money back.
Joshua:Unfortunately, that isn't how it always works.
Joshua:Coaching sometimes fails.
Joshua:Sometimes it doesn't work the way that it intends because of the proposition
Joshua:that was supposed to be happening from the start of the coaching relationship,
Joshua:because of those definitions and even those aspirations not being clearly
Joshua:defined, especially in the longer term success strategy of the client
Joshua:itself, it often creates problems for the relationship to continue
Joshua:past a certain point, especially if they don't see, from either the
Joshua:coaches or client's perspective, that things are going very well.
Joshua:I often hear about coaching being a luxury though, from even other people in the
Joshua:industry thinking that because I can make 5, 10, $25,000 working with a potential
Joshua:client, whether that is a person, an individual in nature, or even a business
Joshua:that I can justify the high exorbitant rates that I can charge, but I think it's
Joshua:all about not only value proposition in which we all have an understanding of
Joshua:what we bring to the table, not just what the coach will provide, but also what
Joshua:the client expects, but it's also about understanding what your capabilities are.
Joshua:Coaching in itself doesn't always mean that you have all the answers, and I often
Joshua:stress that so much with even some of my clients that this is just the perspective;
Joshua:a worldview that I have adapted, especially in the over three decades that
Joshua:I have lived on this earth, soon to be four, but don't tell anyone about my age.
Joshua:I have to say though that even with age, you can have so much different
Joshua:types of experiences, but they might not be in the best shape or form
Joshua:for what the client is expecting.
Joshua:That's why, oftentimes, when you have that mismatch of what the coach is
Joshua:supposed to be providing and what the client is expecting, that creates what we
Joshua:often see as this affordability problem.
Joshua:To me, when I work with my clients, especially when they're coming into
Joshua:the office and explain the problem that they have, I often do an analysis
Joshua:of what they are actually expecting from the relationship itself.
Joshua:A few of my questions that I normally ask are: Is it something that you want
Joshua:to see yourself change down the road?
Joshua:When you have that solution in your hand, is that something that you hope that will
Joshua:change other things, whether that is the personal relationships, the professional
Joshua:engagements, or maybe even have a new skill that you take that enhances you
Joshua:to become something better, or something that you never thought possible?
Joshua:Finally, what I really ask, and I even dive into quite a bit with initially
Joshua:is, what is it that you want to see me hold you accountable in becoming, or
Joshua:doing, as a result of working with me?
Joshua:Now, my formula amongst other techniques that I have talked about and will continue
Joshua:to talk about on this podcast and even with my guests, don't necessarily mean
Joshua:that it's always the right solution.
Joshua:We always have to adapt to what the things are that we're going through in our lives.
Joshua:Whether that is something that is fundamentally changing for the
Joshua:betterment of everybody or everything, whether that is for an organization
Joshua:or individual, but we also have to look at what's the value that we're
Joshua:essentially adding at the end of the day?
Joshua:That really begs the question: Is coaching really just a luxury?
Joshua:I think that we often have to take the perspective that when we have seen
Joshua:coaches in the yesterday, meaning of the past, we often think of the people
Joshua:that often were the legendary pioneers of having some sort of radical thought.
Joshua:Coaches come in all shapes and sizes.
Joshua:They are people in themselves that have made mistakes and even have
Joshua:learned lessons along the way.
Joshua:In essence, the value that is being brought by the business or even the
Joshua:individual is really the personality, and the attention to detail, amongst
Joshua:other sort of qualifications and backgrounds, is what they are really
Joshua:providing and putting at the table.
Joshua:If you decide to take it from the table, that means that you are
Joshua:genuinely interested in moving forward, and that often means that you are
Joshua:expecting something of that nature to come back and help you along the way.
Joshua:We have even heard of many people, even in the coaching business, thinking that
Joshua:they're able to do X, Y, and Z, but really they're only able to do maybe just X,
Joshua:because what their perspective is of X, Y, and Z might be different from what
Joshua:you might actually want, which is that X that you are attracted to, and I don't
Joshua:mean your ex-girlfriend or boyfriend.
Joshua:I'm talking about the X value of what you see in that person that's going
Joshua:to genuinely help you, so I think it's really important for us to understand that
Joshua:as you go through investments of time, energy, and commitment, especially with
Joshua:someone that you really genuinely look at as somebody that has gone so far in
Joshua:their career or aspirations, it's really about asking the deeper questions of what
Joshua:is it that you actually have done that have created what you have created today,
Joshua:alongside, what is it that you really want to see in the next 5, 10, maybe
Joshua:even 25 years of your own business that you're running, which I'm always open to
Joshua:discussing with potential clientele what I am looking to do down the road as a whole.
Joshua:I think that we often have to have that connection on a personal level,
Joshua:especially when we are trying to grow ourselves; to have that investment of
Joshua:the tremendous opportunities that we have inside of ourselves often requires
Joshua:us to understand the motivations and the techniques of what other people can do.
Joshua:We have to explore the misconception in the world that coaching isn't just about
Joshua:paying a lump sum of money, thinking that you get instantaneous results.
Joshua:It's about learning from the person that has gone through their experiences,
Joshua:offering some sort of new, unique idea or practice that might have been time tested
Joshua:over and over again to be perfected, but maybe, just maybe, it's somebody that
Joshua:has helped even other people see inside themselves what they're truly capable
Joshua:of doing, but I think that we have to stop looking at luxury as something
Joshua:that is a convenience that we pass away.
Joshua:When we are in midst of certain things, I get it sometimes
Joshua:that life throws curve balls.
Joshua:Those curve balls being that we have bills that we have to pay, we have children
Joshua:that get sick that we need to take to the hospital, we even have setbacks in our
Joshua:own lives in which we want to have some of those things that we lost, maybe from the
Joshua:pandemic, maybe from a loss in the family, maybe we were wanting to reclaim what we
Joshua:have lost, and we need to put that value that we have inside ourselves to something
Joshua:more important at the present time.
Joshua:Those are all valid excuses, but time and time again, I have heard clients
Joshua:say, "I don't think this is for me.
Joshua:I don't think I'm ready for it.", and I don't know if that's really the
Joshua:truth or maybe that is something that they're going through intentionally
Joshua:that they're just struggling with understanding or identifying where that
Joshua:value is that they really want to find.
Joshua:At Your Speaking Voice LLC, what I really am trying to do is not just
Joshua:see people for wherever they are at in their lives, but to assign a value
Joshua:that I think is appropriate for what they are actually going through.
Joshua:It's not going to be $5,000 to fix your life; maybe it's just going to be a
Joshua:couple hours each month at a nominal rate.
Joshua:That's not going to be a one-time shot of $25,000 so that your company's running all
Joshua:over again; it might be a time investment that $25,000 takes over a year to make.
Joshua:I think that we all have to understand that sometimes the concept of what we want
Joshua:as instant gratification might not always come at the same time, place, or manner
Joshua:that has happened with other people.
Joshua:Your podcast host, Joshua D.
Joshua:Smith, the very voice of this whole show, has been through very much those same
Joshua:challenges that we have gone through, maybe that you have even shared on
Joshua:this very show, or will share on this very show, but I think that we have
Joshua:to understand the viewpoints of what coaching can be from a longer term scale.
Joshua:What is it that it can change you to become that maybe you would've been
Joshua:otherwise afraid of doing because you've broken the cycle of fear, which
Joshua:in a future episode, we will talk about the concept of fear and maybe
Joshua:some ways in which you can overcome that yourself through the help of a
Joshua:coach, but I think that we have to understand that at the pivotal point
Joshua:of all of this is the concept of money.
Joshua:Isn't it true?
Joshua:Money is the root of all evil.
Joshua:I've heard that so many different times.
Joshua:I have even believed it at some times in my life as it relates to the various
Joshua:car repairs, the unexpected student loan bills, or even the different
Joshua:types of expenses that just come out of nowhere that we never thought we
Joshua:would have to pay, but here we are, emptying our wallets, or writing that
Joshua:next check, or even swiping the plastic.
Joshua:I think that we have to understand that money isn't just a understanding or a
Joshua:mutual agreement between two parties of what we would be compensated for; maybe
Joshua:you might be somebody that barters, maybe you have a service that you will
Joshua:provide to somebody else, and in return, you will receive something from that
Joshua:coach, or maybe that other individual, that's able to help them see or become
Joshua:the best version of themselves, but knowing your value is also what that
Joshua:coach is also charging you, because that coach wants to see you stay committed
Joshua:to the bigger, long-term picture of what you are ultimately going to become.
Joshua:That coach is spending that much extra of all the expense, resource,
Joshua:time, and commitment to see you become something that you never thought you
Joshua:could ever see in a million years, and that's why they are charging
Joshua:what your value is down the road.
Joshua:That is what they are seeking from you, but when you don't see it from the very
Joshua:beginning, that's why you are turned off.
Joshua:Maybe that's what's also flipping the switch off of this episode of maybe not
Joshua:even listening because you are going through something that you have to
Joshua:challenge yourself to get through first; to understand that maybe you can interact
Joshua:with a coach in a way in which you never thought you could imagine before.
Joshua:I think that we often want to have this conversation about, "Well, he can do a lot
Joshua:more than this other coach, so why don't you go with him or her for that matter?",
Joshua:and that's perfectly fine as well, but when you don't have a chance to give to
Joshua:somebody to actually see if it's a good fit, maybe you need to start challenging
Joshua:your own mindset and maybe your own view of what you think is really important.
Joshua:Is maybe going to that sunny destination in Florida, or even
Joshua:Jamaica or The Bahamas really worth it?
Joshua:Maybe that excursion overseas, being able to have something of a lifetime,
Joshua:might be the experience that you're willing to pay any amount of money
Joshua:for, but are you willing to pay enough money to help yourself see
Joshua:the best version of who you are?
Joshua:Are you willing to put an investment of everything that you ever thought possible,
Joshua:and seeing who you could potentially become down the road, if you're just
Joshua:willing to give yourself one more chance?
Joshua:Maybe, you just need that one extra shot in the arm by being able to be
Joshua:injected with the hope, opportunity, the determination, the relationships,
Joshua:maybe even courage for that matter, to set forth into some sort of vast new
Joshua:frontier that you never thought you would be able to see if it wasn't for
Joshua:somebody else pointing you along the way.
Joshua:Investments are totally up to you, and I'm not here to change your
Joshua:mind today, but I'm here to at least start the conversation about what
Joshua:you think might be a luxury or not.
Joshua:Oftentimes I want to hear what people are going through so that I know that I'm
Joshua:doing the right thing; so, drop a line.
Joshua:Of course, it's free: podcast@yourspeakingvoice.biz is
Joshua:certainly available to you if you ever want to share any of your thoughts
Joshua:about any of these episodes, even some of the information that is contained
Joshua:in them, because I really am curious: Do you think coaching is just a luxury?
Joshua:Do you think that all you can do is just do it by yourself and not have to worry
Joshua:about the money that goes along with it?
Joshua:Are you worried about putting a small investment in yourself that might create
Joshua:some of the most tremendous opportunities for growth and development that you
Joshua:have ever seen in your entire life?
Joshua:Why not give it a shot?
Joshua:Maybe you just might change your mind, and maybe at the same time
Joshua:you're gonna change who you are, not only in the inside, but how you
Joshua:interact with others on the outside.
Joshua:Thanks for listening to episode number 32 of Speaking From The
Joshua:Heart, and I look forward to hearing from your heart very soon.
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