The Man With Zero Talent: Rewire Your Brain to Create an Unshakable Mindset with Sanji Nandi

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Welcome to the honor shakable habits podcast, where we help

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you to build the habits and routines they help build the life you want.

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So you could turn every day actions into powerful wins for

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I am your host Steven box.

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And guys today, we're going to talk about a subject that I

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know a lot of you can relate to.

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Why is change so difficult?

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What can we actually do about it?

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Now you're probably familiar with the old GI Joe saying that

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knowing is half the battle.

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And I think for a lot of us.

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The problem isn't information.

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We know what we should be doing or what we need to be doing, or

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at least have a pretty good idea.

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The problem a lot of times is actually taking action on these things.

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Now my guest today, Mr.

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Sanjeev Nati is going to give you a lot of great insight and through our

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conversation, I think you guys are going to get a lot of really valuable nuggets.

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Now, before we get into our interview today.

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I did want to also invite you guys.

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with that, allow me to introduce my guest today, Mr.

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Sanjeev

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Nandi.

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Thank you, Stephen, for inviting me in your podcast.

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I hope I can give some information, information tips

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and tools for your audience.

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Oh, I

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know you can, because we've already had the pre interview.

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We've talked about it.

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I know you got some value to bring today.

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looking forward

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to hearing it.

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Thank you very much.

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just a brief introduction about myself.

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my name is Sanjeev Nandy.

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I was born and brought up in India.

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I lived there for 26 years.

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And in 2002, I moved to London, and I lived and worked there for five years.

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And in 2008, I came to United States, and I have been living

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here for the past 14 years.

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I wrote my first book in 2021, The Man with Zero Talent, and it's about

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self help and self improvement.

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And in 2022, I launched my first app, which is called Dovo.

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It's a free app, again, for health and wellness.

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And, from 2013 to 2017, I was struggling in my life.

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I was, I was not sure, what to do in my life and how to improve myself.

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Each passing day, I was sinking deeper and deeper.

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And after struggling for three or four years, I knew that I have to do something.

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That led me to this journey of self transformation.

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So I started my self transformation journey in 2017.

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And it took me two or three years to figure it out, how we can, come

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out from negativity to positivity.

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And once you come out of this positivity, how to become a

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better version of yourself.

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And the whole point of, me writing this book is to give a clear cut roadmap to

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anybody who wants to improve their life.

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So if we can back up for just a second there, so you gave us

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two things that I want to touch on.

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so number one is the book, is The Man with Zero Talent.

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Very interesting title, right?

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So is that because you see yourself as someone who didn't have any talent,

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or is it more just a matter of that focus of saying you don't need to have

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talent to be able to change yourself?

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So the title of the book is The Man with Zero Talent, and

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again, it's a very interesting, title, according to me, and, what I believe

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is no human being is born talented.

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Once, when we are born, we don't know how to fed ourselves.

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we acquire these talents over a period of time.

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And any human being.

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can become, better and they can reach their full potential in

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any field they wanted to be.

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So that is the whole purpose I wanted to, title my book as the man with

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zero talent because there is immense potential in every human being.

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The only thing is you have to tap inside yourself, find that, talent and As you

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said, consistency is the key, and once you are consistent in a period of time,

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you will be definitely successful.

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And the second thing that you talked about was, you just glanced

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over, but you said there was a period of time where you really struggled,

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and you were stuck in negativity.

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take us there a little bit.

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What was going on in your life at that time?

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for three or four years, I was dealing with circumstances

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which is beyond my control.

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I was in a period of negativity and thinking the same

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thoughts over and over again.

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Stephen, as you know that we go through 35, 000 to 70, 000 thoughts per day,

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and 90 percent of these thoughts are the same as the day before.

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And most of these thoughts are negative.

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And when you are in a negative state of mind.

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You keep repeating the same part and it becomes harder for you to come out of

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negativity and become, something better.

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So the same thing was happening with me.

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I was not able to overcome a negative part.

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So I was in that situation for three or four years, which is a very long period.

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Yeah.

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And once you stay for that long period.

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about something, it becomes very hard for yourself to pull out of that negativity.

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and, I was in bad state, I was at the rock bottom.

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I knew that, I have to do something now, otherwise the ship is going to sink.

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So from that point, I started working on myself.

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I started implementing meditation in my routine.

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And after six to eight weeks, I was able to see some kind of improvement, which led

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me to, do other things like exercise, cold showers, healthy eating, and eventually

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that trajectory of my life changed.

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just going back here for a second and touching

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on something you said, because I want to point this out to people.

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You talked about how many thoughts we have in a day, and it made me think

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about a conversation I had last week.

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Because I actually lead a small group Bible study through my church.

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And one of the, I forget how the topic even came up, but we were reading

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this book, The Ruthless Elimination of Hurries, the name of the book.

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And we were talking about this, and one of the ladies in the group said,

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it's hard for us women, because, we have so many thoughts running through

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our head, we can't turn our brain off.

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it's a real struggle, and it causes all the stress.

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She's you guys are lucky I don't have that problem and I started thinking about it.

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I was like, that's not true I mean us guys have tons of thoughts running through

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our head But then I realized something a lot of women that I hear that talk about

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this idea of their thoughts not turning off It's always considered a weakness.

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It's always an overwhelming thing.

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It's always a stressor Whereas a lot of men, when they are thinking

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about multiple things at once, they think of it like a superpower.

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it's a positive, right?

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And that's why you don't hear men complain about it, because

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it's a different perspective.

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And it just, when you said that, it made me think about it, because

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I was like, that ties in perfectly to what you're saying here.

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That when we get ourself into a negative loop, It's so hard to get out because

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every thought you have is a confirmation of that negative loop and anything

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that doesn't confirm your negative loop just gets thrown out versus when you

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start thinking positively and you start looking at things in a positive light,

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the exact opposite happens, right?

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That feeds more positivity.

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Yes, definitely.

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so you know, just to give a little bit of light into that, that, when

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we are young, we are all happy.

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10 or 11, all, whether it's men or a woman or girl or a boy, everybody's happy.

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By the time we reach 15 or 16, we have a overrun of har hormone changes.

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And, these hormonal changes are biological.

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And by the time we reach 20, men are more inclined to sex and anger, and women are

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more inclined to anxiety and depression.

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and what happens is, if you look in the brain, that our brain weighs 3

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pounds, which is about 20 to 25 percent of the actual, weight of the body.

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And our brain, is very lazy.

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it's men or women.

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It doesn't matter.

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it's a very lazy brain and it tries to avoid us from doing

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the things which is hard.

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It tries to, tell us to think about the same thing over and over again, by

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default because The brain is made us to help us survive and it will tell us to

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do the same things over and over again.

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So that is the reason, the default mode takes in and we are in a

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loop of negativity because we are in the phase of survival.

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And until and unless we are able to think greater than the situation, we are

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not able to overcome that negativity.

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But, the negativity part is quite similar in men and women.

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It's tend to be a little bit higher on a woman's side.

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as I say, because of the hormonal changes and, and it becomes, a little

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bit freaky because why, because a restless mind is like a monster.

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It can make your life a nightmare, but the same mind.

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When controlled can make your life, happy and peaceful.

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So it's all about, how you are able to regulate your emotion and your mind.

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Yeah, it's interesting.

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We're having this conversation here about, the way the brain functions

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and something I talk about a lot is this idea that your brain is, as

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you said, wired for survival, right?

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That is your brain's number one job is to keep you alive.

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And the absolute safest thing in the world for your brain is familiarity.

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Because when things are familiar, your brain knows what to expect and knows the

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patterns and knows how to react to things.

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When you start doing stuff different, your brain's hold up, uncharted territory,

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don't know what's going on, unsafe, right?

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And when we start with like smaller practices and give our brain a little

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leeway to feel safe because we're not doing anything too out there,

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and we build upon those, and we become consistent, All of a sudden

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the new behaviors become familiar.

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And once those new behaviors become familiar, all of a sudden our brain's

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Okay, this is safe because I know this.

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But if we just try to change everything at once overnight, your

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brain's Oh, stop, too much, danger.

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yes, absolutely right.

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I have written a chapter in my book, which is called Kaizen.

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Which means small consistent change over a period of time.

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Yes.

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if we are telling our brain, you have to go for a jog the next day or you

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have to, wake up at five o'clock in the morning, you'll break your brain will,

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take it as a negative thing because you're not used to waking up at five

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o'clock in the morning, neither you are used to jogging it in the morning.

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But if I tell your brain, okay, you wake up at 8 o'clock, wake up at 7.

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55, your brain will say, okay, it's a piece of cake.

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If I tell you, you have to just walk a block tomorrow, your brain

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will say it's a piece of cake.

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It will not, go against it.

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And then you can eventually, improve on it.

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You can, do two blocks and then three blocks.

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And then, over a course of period, you will see so much of improvement.

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So that's, again, it's a control of who is in charge of this brain,

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whether you are in charge of this brain or this brain is in charge of you,

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because it's either, or, somebody's in charge of this mind or the brain.

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And we have to make sure that we are in control of this mind.

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Otherwise mind is going to cause habit in our life.

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Yeah.

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there, there's really two brains there, right?

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It's there's our instinctual brain.

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And that's really where our emotions come from, right?

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And emotions for those who maybe think like emotions are just

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like happy, anger, whatever.

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Emotion is by definition your internal or external response to your thoughts, right?

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That's what emotions are.

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And Yes, happiness and anger are emotions, but I think sometimes we insist on

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putting a label on and we limit that definition of what an emotion actually is.

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So when can get that part of your brain to start to see things differently.

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That's the one that has all the control, right?

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We like to think that the logical part of our brain, is in control

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because it's the rational.

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a good friend of mine, and I quote this a lot, but a mentor and a good

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friend of mine actually has this quote that I love, which is that we are

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neither rational or irrational beings.

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We're post rational beings.

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Indeed, we're really good at just finding everything after we've done

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it, or after we've decided to do it.

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Yes, absolutely true.

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any human being, they are first going to react emotionally.

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Because that's how we are wired.

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The impulse which is coming from inside or outside, It first reaches

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the emotional brain and then the circuit or impulse reaches the

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thinking or the logical brain, which is the neocortex or the frontal lobe.

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So there is a gap with between the emotional brain and the logical brain.

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So that is the reason every human being, he may be highly qualified, he may be

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a doctor or, he may be a pharmacist.

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It doesn't matter.

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The emotional brain is going to react faster than the thinking brain.

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And to narrow the gap, so that, our thinking brain takes over.

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We have to do, some of the habits, which will narrow the gap.

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And, what I have figured out, in my reading and in, about, research about,

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how we can, implicit the gap between the rational and the logical brain.

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is through mindfulness or meditation.

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Because again, these emotional brain, if you are able to control your

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emotion for 10 or 15 seconds, the response will go to the logical brain.

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And once the logical brain is acting, you know what is the

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right and what is not right.

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giving you example, before I started mindfulness or meditation, I was very

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impulsive any human being, but once I started the meditation, after, one or two

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years, I'm able to, watch my own emotion.

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I know I'm getting angry and I know why I'm getting angry.

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And I know this emotion will pass after, five or 10 minutes

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and I will be in my normal self.

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Yeah, we have to figure out like how do we get that emotional

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reactive brain to react wherever you want it to in that moment, right?

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that's the key.

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And like you said, it's going to react before your logical brain does.

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So that's why a lot of times when we get angry or whatever.

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Our reaction comes out and as is coming out, our logical brain is just catching

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up and we're like, ah, it's already out.

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Okay.

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Nevermind.

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Damage has been done by that time.

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And you realize after 5, 10 minutes, you shouldn't have, the active in that way.

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It happens within every human being.

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so let's talk a little bit about how do we

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start getting our brain rewired.

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So you'd be able to catch ourselves.

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Before we say something that we shouldn't say, or do something we shouldn't do,

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or react in a way we shouldn't react.

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so as I say, that meditation is one of the tools to do it.

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And, just to explain a little bit of meditation.

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That meditation is a form of deep, mindful concentration on an object,

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place, thing, or just on your breath.

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So it's a form of exercise tailored specifically for your brain.

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it has nothing to do with any, any kind of religion because we all need

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concentration, to, live a fruitful life, to live, to accomplish our goals.

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You can be a scientist, you can be a professor, teacher,

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parents, dentist, any profession.

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We have to focus and concentrate to accomplish our task.

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And that is the role of a meditation.

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What we are trying to do in mindfulness or meditation to have a single

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thought.

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And once we are having a single thought, we are controlling this

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restless mind and we are controlling this emotional brain at the same time.

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Because our mind is jumping from one thought to the other thought.

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it's, compared to a drunken monkey who is jumping from one

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tree to another without purpose.

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That's hard.

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That's what happened to our thoughts.

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And it's any human being, you might be thinking about something

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and the next minute you are thinking about something different.

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And sometimes it's hard to figure out, figure it out, why, seems weird, I was

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thinking something different now and my thought is, completely different at the

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next minute and it's, and, sometimes it is the hard way we have to learn it,

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okay, that, this mind is very powerful, but it is very restless at the same time.

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So how we can have a single part.

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So that we can, accomplish greater things in our life and control this

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emotional brain because, once you are able to control this emotional

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brain, you are able to understand and you are able to, give a logical

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explanation to whatever is happening.

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So that is one of the ways, any human being can do it is

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meditation on mindfulness.

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And I want to dive more into the meditation

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conversation here in a second.

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but I want to take a pause here and just help people see

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what we've talked about so far.

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Really connect this back to what we promised people at the beginning,

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which is we're going to take you from I know what I should be doing to

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actually starting to take action on it.

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Okay.

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And the thing I want to point out at this point is If you think about the

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way that we were just conversating about the brain and the way that works, what

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you'll start to see is that all of your thoughts, all those things that you

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know you should be doing, are things that are coming from your logical brain.

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They're not coming from that subconscious brain.

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They're not coming from that emotional brain.

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And Part of the reason why it's so difficult for most of us guys to

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make changes is because we're trying to make everything happen from our

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logical brain, which is always playing catch up to our emotional brains.

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And what we're diving into now as we continue this conversation is How

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do we start getting those two brains in alignment with one another, and

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how do we actually start to get our subconscious brain to get on board with

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the things that we want to accomplish?

Sanjib Nandi: 00:21:31

Very well said, Stephen.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:21:33

Just, just one more point I wanted to, put at this point is, our brain is a,

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pleasure seeking machine or animal.

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We want pleasure all the time, to the point that it becomes a hedonic

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pleasure because when we are doing any pleasure activity, it releases dopamine.

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And once the dopamine is released, we feel happy.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:21:58

So anything which is challenging or anything is difficult, our

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brain tells us not to do it.

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And we want, instant gratification.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:22:07

We don't want to wait for six months or one year to accomplish something.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:22:12

So that is one of the reasons that, we don't try different things.

Stephen Box: 00:22:19

Yeah, I 100 percent agree.

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so as we think about those things, and we start looking at some of the tools,

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so we'll just use meditation for it now.

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Like you said, it's not the only tool, but it's definitely a good

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place for a lot of people to start.

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And I would just throw out there for people who hear the word meditation.

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And instantaneously get scared off 'cause they have this preconceived notion

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about what meditation is or whatever.

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There are literally hundreds of examples, probably thousands of

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examples of meditation in some form or another being used in basically

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every religion in the world.

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It's been used by people who don't even practice any kind

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of religion or spirituality.

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It's literally thousands of examples of people using meditation in one form

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or another all throughout history.

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So this is not some new thing.

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It's not, sitting with your legs crossed and humming or whatever, right?

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you can do that there.

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if that's your thing, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that, but.

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I think for a lot of people, they think that's what it has to be, and

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that's not what meditation has to be.

Stephen Box: 00:23:31

It's like you said, it's really just about a time period of focus,

Sanjib Nandi: 00:23:39

right?

Sanjib Nandi: 00:23:40

Yes, it's basically to improve your focus and concentration.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:23:45

and as you mentioned that we don't have to sit in a lotus position, you

Sanjib Nandi: 00:23:50

can sit in a chair and You can sit in your sofa, you can sit in your

Sanjib Nandi: 00:23:54

back, bed, as long as your back is straight or your spine is straight,

Sanjib Nandi: 00:24:01

that's what it matters, because all the communication between the brain and the

Sanjib Nandi: 00:24:04

body is happening through the spine, which is the central nervous system.

Stephen Box: 00:24:12

so just want to make sure I'm understanding here.

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So you're saying, The most important thing is having our back

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straight, having our spine straight.

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That's really going to allow to make sure all those connections between the brain

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and the rest of our body are in alignment.

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They're able to communicate with each other.

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And also, I know you, you didn't say this part, but I'm already assuming this

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has a lot to do with our breath as well, because I know our back needs to be

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straight for us to breathe well as well.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:24:41

Yes, definitely.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:24:42

you can concentrate on your breath Like, when you are inhaling it, you can, just

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saw, just assume the breath is going to the diaphragm and the exhale, that

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breath is coming outside and breath.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:24:56

Why breath?

Sanjib Nandi: 00:24:58

Because breath is the thing which is always present with you.

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And that is the thing you can concentrate on.

Stephen Box: 00:25:07

And there are a lot of.

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there are a lot of research out there that actually backs up the idea

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that our breathing is a great way to actually control our stress response.

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And, you talked earlier about negative thoughts versus positive thoughts.

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one of the major things that contributes to that is our current level of stress.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:25:34

Yes, definitely.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:25:35

when we are breathing, we activate the sympathetic nervous system.

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So when the sympathetic nerve, no, when we breathe, slowly, it activates

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the parasympathetic nervous system.

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And when the parasympathetic nervous system is activated, it

Sanjib Nandi: 00:25:56

decreases your heart rate, your blood pressure, your cholesterol.

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Your insulin level, so everything gets controlled because you are activating

Sanjib Nandi: 00:26:06

the parasympathetic nervous system, which is the arrest and the recovery mode.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:26:12

When you are, in a fight or flight mode, which is the sympathetic

Sanjib Nandi: 00:26:16

nervous system, you are rushing all the blood to the arms and legs.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:26:22

you are stressed out, the cortisol level in the body is more.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:26:27

and, that leads to, more stress and more, diseases in the body.

Stephen Box: 00:26:33

Yeah.

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I think, people miss this idea of like stress is good, right?

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When we have just enough stress to motivate us, right?

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That's a good thing.

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When stress becomes problematic is when it is consistent and when we're overloaded.

Stephen Box: 00:26:52

so for example, the flight or fight syndrome, if I'm in a dangerous situation,

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My stress response kicks in flight or fight, and I either, fight off my,

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danger or I flee and get out of there.

Stephen Box: 00:27:09

And so in that instance, a stress response is fantastic because it kept me alive.

Stephen Box: 00:27:17

Oh, yes.

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But that stressor is a long lasting and it is cumulative.

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We need that.

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It just gets worse and worse over time.

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Eventually that's when it becomes problematic.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:27:27

Yes, definitely.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:27:29

Acute stress is not bad.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:27:31

as you mentioned, that helps, for the survival.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:27:34

But when that stress becomes chronic, when you are thinking the same

Sanjib Nandi: 00:27:39

thought, over and over again, when it becomes chronic, then it is, downhill.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:27:45

Because stress is always going to be here, Stephen.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:27:47

it is not going to go away because, fear is the main reason which is stopping us

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from doing greater things in our life.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:27:56

everybody, and fear system is engraved in our brain, which is the amygdala,

Sanjib Nandi: 00:28:01

which is the fight or flight response.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:28:03

Every human being has it, which helps us to survive.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:28:07

it has been there for millions of years and it helped us, survive our ancestors.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:28:14

We don't need it today, but it is still there.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:28:16

We don't have any big predators like lion or tiger, tigers.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:28:21

But we have normal stress like, our neighbors are going to work or our,

Sanjib Nandi: 00:28:26

spouses, those are the things which is giving us stress, but when it becomes

Sanjib Nandi: 00:28:31

chronic, you are thinking over and over again, then it becomes a problem.

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And by the way, just to tie this back to what we said

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earlier, the emotional brain, doesn't think about things, it doesn't,

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Take the time to figure stuff out.

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to it, the difference between something going on with your neighbor and a tiger

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chasing you, there is no difference.

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It's the exact same thing, right?

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It's not until later on when our logical brain gets to finally kick in that we go.

Stephen Box: 00:29:02

Oh, that's not that big of a deal It's just my neighbor, right?

Stephen Box: 00:29:04

So it's you know from a Emotional reaction standpoint your body is

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going to react the exact same way to you getting you know Into with your

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neighbor getting cut off in traffic or getting to argue with your wife as it

Stephen Box: 00:29:19

would if you're being chased by a tiger

Sanjib Nandi: 00:29:21

Yes Same thing because it'll release the stress hormone in the body.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:29:27

there is a direct connection, through the neocortex, which, or the frontal

Sanjib Nandi: 00:29:33

lobe, and through the adrenal gland, which is the adrenal modula, which

Sanjib Nandi: 00:29:39

is just located above the kidneys.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:29:42

And so in simple terms, the brain.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:29:45

Tells the body to release stress hormone in stressful situation.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:29:49

And once this stressful situation, hormones is released, it

Sanjib Nandi: 00:29:53

decreases immunity in the body.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:29:55

Once the immunity decreases, you have to deal with different, diseases in the body.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:30:03

So again, this mind and body is not separate entities.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:30:08

This is, all interwoven in mind body relationship.

Stephen Box: 00:30:14

Yeah, something that was very interesting for me, being a health

Stephen Box: 00:30:17

coach and having to study the body is, I always observed this idea of,

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it's interesting that we have a left and right hemisphere in our brains.

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Yeah.

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We have a emotional part of our brain.

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We have a logical part of our brain.

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We also have, you know, a, basically we have a brain in our stomachs and

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then we have our brain in our head.

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We have these two different nervous systems.

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It's It's interesting when you start to look at all the parts in our body

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that actually are two different things and they're opposite of each other.

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And when people start to go, why is this so hard to change?

Stephen Box: 00:30:54

Why is it so hard to just do these things?

Stephen Box: 00:30:57

Your body is literally fighting against itself and you pretty much all the time.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:31:05

yes, Steve, you have a very, greater knowledge and

Sanjib Nandi: 00:31:09

understanding of the mind and body.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:31:11

Because, understanding these things is important.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:31:14

Once you have the knowledge and your audience have the

Sanjib Nandi: 00:31:18

knowledge, it's easier to change.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:31:21

just to give you a little bit idea of, the left hemisphere and the right hemisphere.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:31:26

Like the persons who are left brainers, they are good at, analytical reasoning or

Sanjib Nandi: 00:31:33

more practical, good at maths and science.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:31:36

The person who are more right brainers, They are good at, arts, good at intuitive,

Sanjib Nandi: 00:31:43

and once you become whole brainers, you can use, both your left and right brain.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:31:50

Then your clarity, focus, you become a better version of yourself.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:31:56

Yeah.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:31:56

And just to relate it to mindfulness or meditation increases the

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thickness and volume of the corpus callosum, which is joining the left

Sanjib Nandi: 00:32:06

hemisphere and the right hemisphere.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:32:08

So once that thickness join, once you are able to use both sides of the

Sanjib Nandi: 00:32:14

brain, you become, definitely, much more better than what he used to be before.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:32:21

And just touching the point.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:32:23

Yeah.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:32:23

Just touching the point about, our gut health, which is again, very important.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:32:29

And as you are aware that 90 percent of the serotonin is, produced in our gut.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:32:36

Yeah.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:32:37

we have to make sure that we are eating healthy at the same time,

Sanjib Nandi: 00:32:40

because, life is not about taking care of one individual thing.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:32:45

It's having a holistic approach.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:32:47

You have to see, your body, mind, and your habits as one thing and

Sanjib Nandi: 00:32:53

what you can do to, improve yourself.

Stephen Box: 00:32:58

Yeah, I think, a couple of things that you just hit on there

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when we start looking at this idea of meditation and mindfulness, is

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number one, it is a reset, right?

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Because by activating that parasynthetic system.

Stephen Box: 00:33:13

We are, I mean it's literally called the Rest and Digest System.

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It's literally what it's called.

Stephen Box: 00:33:19

when we get, give our body an opportunity to actually activate that system,

Stephen Box: 00:33:25

we are literally resetting things.

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we talked earlier about how stress only becomes problematic When it is long term

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and cumulative, and part of the way that we get to long term and cumulative stress

Stephen Box: 00:33:37

is by not having regular resets, right?

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that's why something like mindfulness and meditation is so important,

Stephen Box: 00:33:44

because it gives us literally a reset to our stress levels.

Stephen Box: 00:33:49

The other thing is, you talked about it connecting the two parts of your brain.

Stephen Box: 00:33:54

literally physically helping to connect those two parts of your brain.

Stephen Box: 00:33:58

So that you can start to see things with more clarity.

Stephen Box: 00:34:03

Yes, absolutely right.

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And then I love your point about, nutrition, exercise

Stephen Box: 00:34:08

goes in that same category.

Stephen Box: 00:34:10

And those are things that if you actually listen to the majority of the episodes

Stephen Box: 00:34:16

that I've done on here, what you hear over and over again is that people

Stephen Box: 00:34:21

usually started with something else, and then that something else led to

Stephen Box: 00:34:28

better exercise and better nutrition.

Stephen Box: 00:34:30

Yeah, absolutely.

Stephen Box: 00:34:31

Most of us, especially here in, in Western culture here in the United States

Stephen Box: 00:34:36

are very focused on the diet, right?

Stephen Box: 00:34:40

What exercise do I need to do?

Stephen Box: 00:34:42

And you can do that.

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but I always try to tell people, Nutrition is more about being

Stephen Box: 00:34:51

aware of what you're eating.

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It's really about how you think about eating and all those things

Stephen Box: 00:34:56

versus just the food itself.

Stephen Box: 00:34:59

And then exercise, at least to me, is partly, of course, to build your body

Stephen Box: 00:35:04

up, but it's really about building more mental strength than it is anything else.

Stephen Box: 00:35:10

And that's why a lot of times when you see people start to develop

Stephen Box: 00:35:13

those other habits, Exercise and nutrition just become natural for them.

Stephen Box: 00:35:18

So if you're finding yourself struggling to actually get into exercise and

Stephen Box: 00:35:22

nutrition, if you're finding those hard, hard entry ways into a healthier

Stephen Box: 00:35:26

lifestyle, take a step back and start with being more mindful and getting

Stephen Box: 00:35:35

rid of the negative thoughts and start replacing the positive thoughts, and

Stephen Box: 00:35:39

you will be shocked how easy exercise and nutrition actually become.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:35:45

Yes, you are to the point.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:35:47

And, as you mentioned that, when I started my self transformation

Sanjib Nandi: 00:35:50

journey, like exercise was or not, in the agenda, so it becomes, part of my

Sanjib Nandi: 00:35:57

lifestyle, slowly and eventually, because once I saw the benefit of exercise.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:36:02

As you know that it releases happy hormones like endorphins,

Sanjib Nandi: 00:36:06

dopamine, serotonin in our brain.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:36:09

And as you mentioned that if exercise is for the body, it's about mental strength.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:36:17

When we are doing exercise, it is giving you the, mental fitness.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:36:23

Because our mind is not a muscle, but it, works or acts like a muscle.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:36:28

The more stronger your body is, the more stronger your mind is, going to become.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:36:34

And you are able to handle, different kind of stress in your day to day activity.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:36:40

Because, that's how you are able to, deal with the stress.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:36:42

Otherwise, these stresses will be always there for everyone.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:36:48

So we have to see, what are the things which can reduce this stress.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:36:51

And, exercise is the best form of medicine.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:36:55

Which has been found in research that if you have anxiety, stress,

Sanjib Nandi: 00:37:00

depression, that's the best thing to do is do exercise.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:37:04

Even if we are walking it, the research has shown that it decreases

Sanjib Nandi: 00:37:08

the cardiovascular disease by 32%.

Stephen Box: 00:37:14

it's amazing all the benefits of it, right?

Stephen Box: 00:37:17

And, but I think there's so many people, they struggle with it because

Stephen Box: 00:37:20

we live in a day and age where, Everything is right now, right?

Stephen Box: 00:37:26

We feel like constantly we're being bombarded with

Stephen Box: 00:37:30

something else to have to do.

Stephen Box: 00:37:31

An email from somebody that needs an urgent response.

Stephen Box: 00:37:34

A phone call that has to be taken right now, right?

Stephen Box: 00:37:37

There's always something coming up that is keeping us from doing what we want to do.

Stephen Box: 00:37:43

And I find for so many of the people that I've worked with over the years,

Stephen Box: 00:37:49

that it's not until they can let go of some of those expectations that

Stephen Box: 00:37:55

they can truly start to, to get this.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:37:59

Yes, definitely.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:38:01

No, we have to do it for ourselves.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:38:03

when I see my life, I'm not comparing myself with anybody else.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:38:10

I see myself as, okay, if I'm able to improve from what I was

Sanjib Nandi: 00:38:15

yesterday, then I'm doing, better.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:38:18

And that shouldn't be the criteria.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:38:19

What happens is we start comparing our life with somebody else's life.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:38:24

Oh, see, he's doing so much and I should do, these things at the same times.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:38:29

And that makes, somebody, unhealthy and unhappy at the same time.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:38:33

Because, the ultimate goal is, we want it to be happy at the same time.

Stephen Box: 00:38:40

So one thing we haven't really touched on yet.

Stephen Box: 00:38:42

And then, I really want to get into some of the specifics of, how

Stephen Box: 00:38:45

do we get into meditation here?

Stephen Box: 00:38:47

But one thing that I love about this idea of taking some time out for some

Stephen Box: 00:38:52

mindfulness meditation is it gives us an opportunity to start to really

Stephen Box: 00:38:59

connect with what's actually important.

Stephen Box: 00:39:02

And that's the point I was getting at earlier with, talk about making time

Stephen Box: 00:39:05

for things and until like we have all these other things pressing for our time.

Stephen Box: 00:39:10

If when we constantly allow ourselves to be bombarded by other people,

Stephen Box: 00:39:15

we do not get a chance to actually know what's important to us.

Stephen Box: 00:39:19

And so these moments of silence and solitude are very helpful in really

Stephen Box: 00:39:25

hearing that inner voice and really understanding, what is it that my

Stephen Box: 00:39:30

body is telling me that it needs?

Stephen Box: 00:39:32

Because our bodies are always communicating with us.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:39:36

Yes.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:39:37

as you are touching the point of meditation, how somebody can connect

Sanjib Nandi: 00:39:42

it, to your own mind and body and the best thing which I have figured

Sanjib Nandi: 00:39:47

it out is, When you do mindfulness or meditation, when you wake

Sanjib Nandi: 00:39:52

up,

Sanjib Nandi: 00:39:53

that is the best time.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:39:55

Why?

Sanjib Nandi: 00:39:56

Again, I will give you a little bit of scientific explanation because, I like

Sanjib Nandi: 00:40:00

to talk about brain and science and, when we are sleeping, we are in delta wave.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:40:07

When we wake up, we are in theta waves and 10 minutes or 15 minutes after wave

Sanjib Nandi: 00:40:14

kicking, we will go to alpha waves.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:40:16

And then, as we are speaking with each other, we are at beta waves.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:40:20

So when you wake up, 10 minutes, if you are able to meditate.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:40:25

You are able to reach your subconscious mind and you can, be as calm as

Sanjib Nandi: 00:40:31

possible and you can, direct your day the way you want it to do it

Sanjib Nandi: 00:40:35

because it will stay with you.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:40:37

Once you have, you know how you want your day to be because

Sanjib Nandi: 00:40:41

that is the best time to change.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:40:43

Your day and your life at the same time.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:40:46

And the same thing is when you are sleeping, before you go to bed, if

Sanjib Nandi: 00:40:50

you do, 10 minutes of, 15 minutes of mindfulness, again, there is a window

Sanjib Nandi: 00:40:56

of, opening your subconscious mind.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:40:58

Because again, you are, going from alpha to theta to delta waves.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:41:02

And if you wanted to reprogram your brain for, serenity or

Sanjib Nandi: 00:41:07

equanimity, that is the point.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:41:10

And, that is helpful for so many of people because when we are actively

Sanjib Nandi: 00:41:15

thinking all the time, it becomes harder for us to, go from beta waves

Sanjib Nandi: 00:41:20

to the alpha waves and delta waves.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:41:23

And, we are not able to sleep because, we are not able to stop our internal chat.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:41:29

Once you are able to, quieten the prefrontal lobe, it becomes so

Sanjib Nandi: 00:41:33

much easier to go to alpha and theta waves and, it will make your

Sanjib Nandi: 00:41:38

life so much, happy and fruitful.

Stephen Box: 00:41:42

So for people who maybe don't know all the different

Stephen Box: 00:41:46

wavelengths and what that means.

Stephen Box: 00:41:49

so help us understand a little bit about that, like when you talk

Stephen Box: 00:41:52

about the importance of being, within a certain wavelength, when

Stephen Box: 00:41:55

we do these mindfulness sessions.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:41:59

so basically, when we are doing this mindfulness session,

Sanjib Nandi: 00:42:04

we, in any period from morning to evening, we are in a beta waves.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:42:11

It means, we are actively working, we are thinking, we are doing

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the things which is necessary.

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and, we have to learn to toggle between, alpha waves to theta waves so that

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we can switch our brain, whichever way we wanted to do it, because we

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cannot always think all the time.

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We want, that calmness and serenity in our life at the same time.

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once, That, it's easier to do it when you sit quiet, that you are

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able to change your brain waves from beta waves to alpha waves, and alpha

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waves to beta waves, and beta waves

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to delta

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waves.

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so what is, what does it mean to change, when we change

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to alpha waves, what's happening?

Sanjib Nandi: 00:42:57

alpha waves, when you are changing to that wavelength,

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you are making yourself more calm.

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It means, you're, you have much less information in your prefrontal lobe.

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The blood flow in the prefrontal lobes gets less, so you can quieten your mind.

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So that's what it is happening because we cannot think all the time.

Stephen Box: 00:43:21

And then what about it outside and Delta waves?

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what are those about?

Sanjib Nandi: 00:43:24

it's a resting phase where you are not sleep,

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but you are, in a sleep mode.

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And that is the phase, which is easier to program your subconscious mind.

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Because, you are from, you are, right now toggling between,

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sleep, deep sleep and near asleep.

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And that is the phase if you wanted to implement something that, you

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wanted to become better at something.

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you want, to implement, affirmation or visualization, that is the period you can

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use, that period to make yourself better.

Stephen Box: 00:43:58

So for somebody wanting to get started with this and they're

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like, you know what, I'll give this a try and see if it works for me.

Stephen Box: 00:44:05

What is like the first, like day one step that you would recommend for somebody?

Stephen Box: 00:44:11

other than downloading the app, which we're going to get to here in a second.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:44:16

Yes.

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the first thing anybody can do is, go to a quiet place.

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It can be, your room, you can just pick a quiet place.

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You can sit in your chair, sofa, you can, lie down, whatever you feel comfortable.

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You need a position which is comfortable.

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And, you can, pick a object, you can pick a thing, or you can, have a

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image, you want to concentrate, or you can just, concentrate on your breath

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and, just try to concentrate what is happening right now at that time.

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And your mind is going to wander in 10 or 15 seconds, which is fine.

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Just bring your heart back to your original thought,

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whatever you are thinking.

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If you're imagining a beach, just have an image of that beach.

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Your thought is going to go to different places.

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Just bring your thought to that original places.

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That's what you have to do.

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And eventually you will get better and

Stephen Box: 00:45:16

better.

Stephen Box: 00:45:18

Okay.

Stephen Box: 00:45:18

and started off, I think a lot of times people do tend

Stephen Box: 00:45:21

to try to do too much, right?

Stephen Box: 00:45:23

They're like, I'm going to commit to 10 minutes of

Stephen Box: 00:45:26

meditation every day or whatever.

Stephen Box: 00:45:29

And just confirm for me if this is accurate or not, but I feel with something

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like this, it's not necessarily about getting the benefit day one, right?

Stephen Box: 00:45:38

It's about starting to build the skills.

Stephen Box: 00:45:41

And that means if you only can do 30 seconds, even it's just that's 30 seconds

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of practice time that you're getting.

Stephen Box: 00:45:49

And over time, you just get longer and longer and you get better and better.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:45:54

Yes, as Dalai Lama said, start with 30 seconds every day.

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And once you are doing, 30 seconds, you will gradually increase

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it and you can, become better.

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And once you see the benefits, and that is the hardest part, why people don't,

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indulge in meditation on mindfulness, because, you cannot measure it.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:46:16

It's not tangible, once you are able to see the benefits, it takes four

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to six weeks or around eight weeks.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:46:23

Once you see the benefits, it becomes, so much natural for you to

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sit in because this is helping me so much, for me, it has become a habit.

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I know that, I have to sit in the morning and before going

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to bed, I know the benefits.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:46:37

I know it keeps me so much calm.

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It gives me so much happiness that, I cannot just not do it.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:46:44

it is, it has become so much internalized now.

Stephen Box: 00:46:49

Yeah, I think that's really good advice.

Stephen Box: 00:46:50

just that matter of looking at it more from a long term, And don't

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feel like you have to do a lot.

Stephen Box: 00:46:58

Just start where you are and allow it to just naturally become a part of your day.

Stephen Box: 00:47:05

And once you.

Stephen Box: 00:47:07

Okay, commit to a minimum amount of time, committing to the action itself,

Stephen Box: 00:47:13

your brain will start to react to it.

Stephen Box: 00:47:16

And as you do, the experience that I've had for myself, as well as a lot

Stephen Box: 00:47:20

of clients has been, and now it's just something like this, but with anything

Stephen Box: 00:47:24

really, is the more that you do it, The more your brain starts to become

Stephen Box: 00:47:28

familiar with it, the more it starts to become easy to actually implement

Stephen Box: 00:47:33

into your day, into your routine.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:47:36

Oh, yes.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:47:37

It's definitely anything, we are trying to change.

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It takes time, but as long as you are giving your time and effort, you are

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going to become better and better.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:47:47

like I'm a self taught, meditator, I never went to anybody, anybody can

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learn through their own experience.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:47:55

you might feel some of the days, which is fine, nobody's perfect all the day.

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You might think some of the days that, you are going backwards, which

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happened with everyone, but, having the habit of sitting, for at least,

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two or three minutes or five minutes.

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And gradually improving it to 20 minutes, what a course of one year

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or two year, you will see that, it has changed the course of your

Stephen Box: 00:48:20

life.

Stephen Box: 00:48:22

Awesome.

Stephen Box: 00:48:23

And for those who maybe want to get a little extra help, tell us

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a little bit about the app, how people can find it and what they

Stephen Box: 00:48:29

can expect when they download it.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:48:31

So people can download, the free app, which is called Lovo

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from, Play Store or App Store.

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There is no subscription fee and in that app, there is four sections first is

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about meditation We have guided meditation and unguided meditation Then we have a

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section about exercise that you know The app will count the number of steps you

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are taking the calories burned and the distance traveled And you can connect

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your smartwatch like, any kind of watch with that app and it will get all the

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data from the smartwatch to the app.

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Then there is a section about water intake because as you know that we live in cold

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countries and we don't drink enough water.

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And if we don't drink enough water, it can lead to anxiety or depression.

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So that app is going to remind you, okay, drink enough water

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every two or three hours.

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And the last section is about sleep analysis, like it will give you

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an analysis of your sleep, light sleep, deep sleep, REM sleep.

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And you can connect your smartwatch again and you can get all the

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information from your smartwatch.

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there are good things at the same time and you can download

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my free book from the app.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:49:55

There is a link provided.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:49:57

If anybody wants to read my book, The Man with Zero Talent, it's

Sanjib Nandi: 00:50:01

again, available there for free.

Stephen Box: 00:50:03

Okay.

Stephen Box: 00:50:04

Awesome.

Stephen Box: 00:50:05

and I will include in the show notes links, to the app on both

Stephen Box: 00:50:09

the store as well as, Google play.

Stephen Box: 00:50:12

And also if you have, Amazon link or anything to the book, I'll include

Stephen Box: 00:50:16

that in the show notes as well.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:50:20

Yeah.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:50:20

All the links has been provided to you so you can, share all the links and.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:50:25

And, they can get the free version, which might be, more useful to the audience.

Stephen Box: 00:50:32

Yeah, we'll, we'll definitely leave that up to them how

Stephen Box: 00:50:34

they want to, go about getting it.

Stephen Box: 00:50:35

Cause people prefer different things in different, formats.

Stephen Box: 00:50:39

So we'll let them make their own decision on that one.

Stephen Box: 00:50:41

Sanjeev, I wanted to say just thank you for coming today.

Stephen Box: 00:50:45

Really appreciate it.

Stephen Box: 00:50:46

loved our conversation.

Stephen Box: 00:50:47

We got to really talk a lot about just habits in general and change

Stephen Box: 00:50:52

and, give people some really useful and helpful tools for starting to

Stephen Box: 00:50:56

create that change, in their life using mindfulness and meditation.

Stephen Box: 00:51:02

Thank

Sanjib Nandi: 00:51:02

you.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:51:04

very much, Steve, for inviting me in your show.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:51:06

I think, your audience will get, some of the useful tips.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:51:10

From you as well as me, you are very knowledgeable and, I appreciate

Sanjib Nandi: 00:51:14

that, I have a conversation with you.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:51:16

I appreciate that.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:51:18

do you have any final thoughts that you would like to leave the audience with

Stephen Box: 00:51:21

today?

Sanjib Nandi: 00:51:23

the final piece of advice I want to give to your

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audience is improve your self talk.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:51:30

Why?

Sanjib Nandi: 00:51:31

Because we all talk very negative with us.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:51:35

When we are saying to ourselves, I'm not good at something, We are

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telling our conscious as well as subconscious mind that we don't

Sanjib Nandi: 00:51:44

need any help in this matter.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:51:47

And I've seen so many, people saying that I'm not good at maths or I'm not

Sanjib Nandi: 00:51:51

good at science or, I have anxiety.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:51:55

So rather than saying this, say to yourself, you are getting better.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:51:59

You are a genius.

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you love yourself.

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Use affirmation, visualization or mantra.

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to improve your self talk, which will, change your belief.

Sanjib Nandi: 00:52:11

And once you change your beliefs, you can become a better version of yourself.

Stephen Box: 00:52:16

Love it, man.

Stephen Box: 00:52:17

That's a, that's great advice.

Stephen Box: 00:52:19

definitely something I think.

Stephen Box: 00:52:20

What makes a huge difference for a lot of people is just changing that

Stephen Box: 00:52:23

self talk and, that's part of your mindfulness and meditation, right?

Stephen Box: 00:52:28

When you're doing that and you start to hear that negative self talk kick in,

Stephen Box: 00:52:31

when you start to have those negative thoughts, that's a great opportunity

Stephen Box: 00:52:35

to start just becoming aware of them and start to think about how can

Stephen Box: 00:52:38

you reframe them into a positive.

Stephen Box: 00:52:40

So I love it.

Stephen Box: 00:52:41

Great advice.

Stephen Box: 00:52:42

And, just want to remind everyone that.

Stephen Box: 00:52:46

none of us born unshakable, but we can all become unshakable.

Stephen Box: 00:52:52

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