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In this episode:

- Conservopedia Raost

- Gen Z Cringe is Just Sparkling Timidity

- Sydney Sweeney's Naked Grift

- Queer Slasher Movie Talk

- Appalachian Interest: Bill Withers

- Dead Internet Theory Comes to Life. Zombie internet, if you will

Welcome to Queer Next, the podcast that puts the

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Yee Hall in y'all means hall.

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I'm your host, Beck,

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Speaker 2: and I'm your host.

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Dash.

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Welcome to today's episode.

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Dash (2): To fix the device problem,

I had to move my whole shit over

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into the other bedroom, which

has worse internet connection.

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so, uh, the last thing I heard you

say was if you guessed 50 times,

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which I'm down to do if you wanna

make me guess 50 times about something

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Beck: You'll never guess

the song in my head is the

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Dash (2): Oh.

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Beck: of that sentence

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Dash (2): That would

probably take more than 50.

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Is it the Macarena?

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Beck: It is not, but I used to sing

that, "Hey, Mark and Tina," which

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were my parents' names The song in my

head, "Everybody was kung fu fighting.

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Dash (2): Oh, that's a good one.

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Beck: doo, doo, doo, doo, Doo."

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Dash (2): Definitely an earworm.

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Do you remember,

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Beck: fast as lightning

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Dash (2): it was like 2001 or 2, a

viral thing of a chipmunk singing

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that with, It had like, I think,

like nunchakus or something,

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some sort of weapon in its hand.

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It was sort of an, an

early kind of internet meme

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I think it was from a commercial.

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Okay, now I have to know.

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Anyway, uh, they made

merchandise of this thing.

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Is it a h- maybe it was a hamster singing

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Beck: Remember the hamster dance?

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Do.

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Dash (2): kung fu fighting

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Beck: do.

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Do-do-do.

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If that doesn't unlock something in your

brain, we are not of the same generation.

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Do.

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Dash (2): Okay.

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Beck: do.

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Dash (2): I have it here.

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Let me see

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Beck: Do-do-do.

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Roo doggy

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Dash (2): All right.

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You see my screen?

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Beck: I see blackness.

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Yes, I see your screen

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Dash (2): Everybody Wenda

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Anyway, that, uh, that was a

hamster that spun this nunchuck

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around and sang Everybody Was Kung

Fu Fighting, and I don't know why.

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I'll find it, I'll find it and I'll

post the YouTube video in the show

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notes, and I'll put it on social media.

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Oh, speaking of, we asked last time

for you know, y'all to submit your,

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uh, pictures of your cats for the,

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And our friend Techno Pop Tart l- posted

on the YouTube that the, our, uh, email

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inbox is going unanswered apparently,

the, the [email protected].

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Which we can try to fix

that when we have time.

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Uh, we would love for to have a reliable

way for y'all to do that kind of thing

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and not have to rely on social media.

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But for now, what I've done is

cr- activate a Patreon I had

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been tinkering with for a while.

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Like if you want to give us money,

that's really cool, but what we're really

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struggling to find is a place where

we can actually all have community and

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reliably be able to have interactive polls

and like we can even go live in there.

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We could post, we could like put any

video content we want to, if we don't

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wanna just have it on YouTube, you know?

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'Cause I'm not, like I feel really

pretty, but I don't always want my face

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on YouTube or social media or something.

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Like I'll, I've done it occasionally,

but anyway, this is a place

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where we could put video content.

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Not that folks couldn't, you know, like

screen record it and clip it or whatever

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if they really wanted to and that's,

you know, that's the hazard of being

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somebody that puts stuff on the internet.

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But anyway, we c- I, I, 'cause I

can put polls and things in there,

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and I can create a post Like if we

say like, "Post your cat pictures

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here," they can be all in one place.

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And you can join, I can set it so that

it's free to join, and I can make posts

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that are free to anybody that's in there.

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So, uh That's active now.

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There's one post in it, ' cause that

was just testing to see if it worked.

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But also, if you, like, don't pay

for Spotify or you don't have…

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You don't wanna support certain app,

uh, whatchacallems, podcast things,

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and you, you don't wanna hear ads

when you're listening to us, I synced

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all of our episodes, all the episodes

of Queernecks to this Patreon.

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You can listen to them without

ads in there if you want to.

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Cause I would personally like to get

rid of Spotify, uh, es- certainly the

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paid version of it, and there's just not

an elegant solution for un- or I guess

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divesting from these tech oligarchs.

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So if you're somebody that w- is

interested in doing that but you're like,

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"Man, my, my Queernecks just haven't

made the 21st century leap to Patreon

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yet like all of the other podcasts have."

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There are more white trash

podcasts in Patreon than us,

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so I just figured, "Okay, fine.

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We'll do it."

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So I will put that in

the episode description.

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We haven't done a ton of…

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We haven't been doing newsletters yet,

but we could migrate those over there.

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We can post it on Substack

though and social media

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Beck: Sounds good to me

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Dash (2): we're already, like, more than

a quarter way through this semester.

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Thank God it's flying

by because it's awful.

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Beck: Yeah it's wild this semester

is the best word I can use.

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The audacity of some of

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Dash (2): yehaw

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Beck: is just outstanding really

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Dash (2): it's that, yes.

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It's that too, and it's

also, like, just me.

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I knew it was coming, but there's no

way to prepare for how much things

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have changed since the last time I

taught, and so I'm feeling like I'm

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just not, I'm not my best, not…

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i'm just, I'm doing the

best I can, for sure.

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But what's fucking me up is this

knowledge that next semester I'll

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do better, and the kids I have this

semester didn't do anything to deserve

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the worst content that they're getting.

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I know that's the nature

of starting a new job, but

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Beck: about

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Dash (2): I,

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Beck: at Shawnee.

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Dash (2): mm

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Beck: I felt really bad about

teaching English to kids at Shawnee.

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They had a year of me, and they

have to live with that for the

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rest of their lives, 'cause I

had no idea what I was doing.

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I don't teach English, you know?

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Dash (2): Oh, was it writing?

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Beck: Yes, it was 101 and 102.

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Dash (2): Those are, they love to

throw new faculty into those, and

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those are the hardest ones to teach.

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I- if somebody has degrees like yours,

you would find it easier to teach

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literature than you would to teach writing

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Beck: Right.

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It was tough.

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The second semester I didn't even turn in

my syllabus until they were like, "Man,

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you really have to turn in your syllabus.

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It's like the law."

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'Cause I didn't know what

to put on it, you know?

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I was building it as

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Dash (2): Oh.

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Beck: so

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Dash (2): sounds like you didn't

have a ton of support either.

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Beck: No, not really.

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Dash (2): yeah.

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I've been really fortunate to have that

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Beck: Yeah.

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I had a friend that I went to high school

with that actually told me about the job.

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She was a full-time professor there.

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She's a PhD.

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And she let me copy her

syllabus both semesters, so

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Dash (2): Yeah.

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' Beck: you know?

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Dash (2): Right, yeah.

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E- especially 101.

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102 to me has always been way easier, and

maybe it's because I have more reps at it

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'cause I taught it much more often, but

it's literally just research, you know?

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It's, it, I mean, y- you are continuing

to develop writing skills and things,

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but you're, it's a little more

about using, finding, evaluating,

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and using research and sources, and

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how

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Beck: Yeah

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Dash (2): how to treat those once

you have them, how to find them.

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Uh, so that one is, that one kind of

creates its own structure in a way.

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101, oh God, it can look a million ways.

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And so I made the mistake of looking up

the Minnesota like whatever you call it,

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core curriculum, Common Core curriculum.

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It fucking lied to me about

what these students should know.

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It was like, uh, now incorporates close

reading from grades like e- at least

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like sophomore to senior year they're

supposed to like practice close reading.

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Bullshit

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Beck: Right?

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I would like to see, like, like

to see them try some of the

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stuff we did in high school.

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Like, I read Beowulf in

high school, and I read

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Dash (2): Oh.

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Beck: in high

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Dash (2): Yeah.

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I memorized the prologue to The Canterbury

Tales in Middle English in high school.

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I don't know why.

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First of all, like, well, I'm

not saying that's good pedagogy.

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What did I learn from it?

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Like, I can, I can in a pinch describe

the differences between Old English,

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Middle English, Early Modern English.

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Boy, that's gonna get me

out of a pickle later.

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If nothing else, it was fun.

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I felt really smart

'cause I could do that.

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And that is something…

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I don't wanna turn this into Pedagogy

Corner, but maybe this is relevant to

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our listeners, and it is relevant to

just the larger world of media and stuff.

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There's a, a confidence issue among

Gen Z in at least fields like mine.

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and Gen Z, I mean, like this ver- you

know, these younger Gen Zs, the ones

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that are, like, the tail end of Gen

Z, the beginning of Gen Alpha, the

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ones that are coming to college now.

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They have no confiden- Well, I don't

wanna say whether it's confidence or not.

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They say they don't have any confidence.

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That's what they call it.

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It's not…

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I don't think it's that, because

nobody with their level of

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audacity has zero confidence.

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I think it's timidity.

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Nobody

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Beck: That's a fun word 'cause

it sounds, uh, sounds like titty

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Dash (2): Today.

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Today, mid-did-di-dy.

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Nobody who doesn't have any

confidence calls the fucking dean

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and says, "My teacher doesn't

respond to my emails fast enough."

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Beck: Yeah.

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Did you actually have that happen?

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Dash (2): multiple.

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We all have.

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It's a thing here.

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Minnesotans fully believe that

they can speak to the manager

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of anything at any time.

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Um, So I think that this is regional.

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so I don't know.

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And it doesn't feel like a

lack of confidence anyway.

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It feels, And so I've researched this.

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I'm not just talking

out of my ass anymore.

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They are reluctant to state anything

they're reluctant to make any claim.

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They will not express an opinion

about something that somebody else

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could also have an opinion about.

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How do I put this?

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So they won't write a thesis statement.

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All of their papers are, "But everybody

has their own opinion," and, you know,

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uh, this, uh, all, all opinions are valid

and this could look this way or whatever.

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And it's like, that's important

to va- uh, to validate other

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people's positionalities, but

that's not what you're doing here.

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You don't want to make a claim because

you're afraid you could be wrong.

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Like, the worst thing that could happen

to them is being wrong about something.

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cause I showed them I've got them

reading Me Talk Pretty One Day.

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And so, you know, Sedaris was it still

is I guess, a big, uh, contributor

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to, like, uh, This American Life and

All Things Considered, all those like,

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you know, hoity-toity NPR things.

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And in 2012, they did a, I think it was

This American Life, did one of their

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live shows and he did a piece for it.

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He did a reading, uh, and he came out

dressed as a clown, uh, full clown

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getup, makeup, and it was the sad

clown, the old, uh, Vaudeville version,

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tiny little hat on top of his head.

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And so I showed them that because

I was like, one day I just asked

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my in-person class, I was like,

"Y'all Googled him, right?"

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No, none of them had Googled the author of

the book we'd been reading for five weeks.

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And I was like, "Interesting.

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So why that just didn't occur to you?"

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It's like, does it, do you get the sense

that this is somebody who's still alive?

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Like, do you occupy the earth

with this person right now?

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That's not of interest to you?

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Okay.

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So I pulled that video and I showed

it to them in class and I said, "Okay.

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Name a thing you noticed."

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What's a thing that happened in here?

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Name a thing you saw."

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They wouldn't do it, not one of them.

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And I was like, " Nothing about

his appearance stood out to you?

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You think he was born looking like

that and we shouldn't comment on it?

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What the fuck is happening?

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He's dressed like a clown.

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Somebody say it."

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So I started doing research,

as I do, and it's, there's

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data on the fact that they…

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And they have told us about it, because

they love to tell us about themselves.

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They won't say anything about

what's happening around them.

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And there was, uh, some, actually a couple

of studies, like s- uh, surveys circulated

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online, and the reason they don't want

to they refuse to express opinions in

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person, in class, at work, and even

online, they're afraid of looking cringe

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Beck: Oh, wow

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that's a rite of passage

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Dash (2): And they're

determined to avoid it.

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I think they're determined to

avoid a lot of rite of passages

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because some really important ones

were stolen from them, you know?

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The lockdown, we knew it

was gonna impact them.

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Apparently this- I would surmise

that this is one outcome of their

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schooling being interrupted in

the way it was by the pandemic.

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Hyper-onlineness the,

how surveilled they are.

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Any mistakes they do make are

gonna be public as all get out.

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Ours got to be private.

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They were humiliating, but

they were contained in a way.

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They, there was no…

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Like, you weren't gonna be the dumbass

who goes viral on TikTok they came-

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I think they've come by it honestly.

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It's just, I didn't, I

didn't see that one coming.

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And so I'm having the, like,

the, the first, like…

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My, my reintroduction to teaching

has been a whole lot of, like,

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seeing how bad we fucked them up

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Beck: Yeah.

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They were seventh and eighth

graders when the pandemic hit.

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So they missed a lot of, like,

foundational English, foundational math

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foundational history, like all those

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Dash (2): Yehaw

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Beck: that you learn in junior high.

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Science, you learn about cells and, you

know, weather systems and all that, and

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they probably didn't get any of that

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Dash (2): And well, and it, there's, even

if some of them did, there's no way to

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actually know how standardized it was.

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Beck: I've got some honor students

this semester that are great,

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Dash (2): Yeah, the ones that, the,

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ones that were thriving all

along, like they're killing it

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Beck: Yehaw

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Oh my God, I have so

much grading to do today

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Dash (2): I'm about to.

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There, uh, I have 150, uh,

research proposals coming

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to me by midnight tonight.

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Beck: geez.

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Yuck

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Dash (2): Yeah.

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Oh, well

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Beck: I have about 35 more quizzes to deal

with, and then I have six honors projects.

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So the project is pretty simple.

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They have to build a scrapbook over

something from women's studies,

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and they've picked things like

domestic violence and, uh, the

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first wave are two of the ones

that pop up in my mind immediately.

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And then they have to turn in

six artifacts for the project.

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Two have to be either a book or a

book chapter or a journal article.

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Uh, one has to be an event that

they can go to, and then the

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other three are totally open.

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They can be a movie.

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They can be, uh, an actual artifact.

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It can be a song.

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It can be whatever they want.

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They just can't have two of anything.

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And some of the stuff they've been turning

in so far has been really interesting.

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One did a piece of artwork,

which was beautiful.

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Another one did the Sid- Sydney

Sweeney commercial that came out

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this, this past week, the sports one.

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Have you seen it?

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Dash (2): Her naked, basically?

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Beck: Yeah.

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Dash (2): I have seen it once.

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Beck: to s- yeah, you have to go

to Instagram to actually see it.

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Dash (2): Well, I, I saw it on

YouTube, which kind of blew my mind

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Beck: Oh, 'cause I looked for it and

couldn't find it anywhere but Instagram,

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'cause I was gonna show it in class.

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Oh, it was on TV?

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Dash (2): Yeah, it aired as an

ad on a YouTube vid- That's the

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only way I would've seen it.

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And c- that's why I was, like, fucking

shocked that I saw it at all, uh,

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because it's, uh, sports betting.

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It's some sort of…

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Beck: Yeah,

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Dash (2): That's the whole point, right?

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She's sh- various versions of

states of nakedness I mean,

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good for her, I guess, but…

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And I doubt I'll ever

see it again on YouTube.

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I'm sure it's been banned by now,

but it did its work, you know?

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Beck: Well, I always ask before

class starts, "Is there anything

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you've seen in the news or on campus

that you guys wanna talk about?"

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Because that's a fruitful conversation

when they really come up with stuff.

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And one girl, her hand shot up

so fast, it was funny almost.

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She was like, "The Cindy Sweeney ad,"

and I hadn't heard about it yet, right?

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So, 'cause it was early last week.

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And so I Googled it, and we watched

it in class, and we had a really

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interesting conversation about

over-sexualization of athletes, which

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I thought was really interesting.

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So yeah, that l- that was

a fun topic this week.

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I had them watch the movie White Like Me

on Thursday, and Wednesday and Thursday.

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Have you ever seen that with Tim Wise?

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Dash (2): Yes.

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that and his um, I know that he has like

a s- an online platform type of thing.

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Those are the only things I know him for

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Beck: Yeah.

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On the Media Education Foundation, I

don't know if your school has access

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to that but it's like Kanopy, and

they have some educational films.

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And they have a bunch of academic

films including White Like Me.

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White Like Me used to be on

Kanopy, but they took it off.

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That's where I, oh, 'cause I show

it in every class that I teach.

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I think it's really important for

white kids to hear about race through

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the white perspective, you know, that

we can do something about it, that

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it is our problem, that kind of thing

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Dash (2): Yehaw Well, the, in the Sydney

Sweeney, that ad, it's interesting

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to me from a sort of celebrity

political economy perspective of…

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So there's sort of a new, the new

wave of child actors and what has

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happened to them, and those, those

old problems of growing up in an

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environment, growing up in celebrity,

growing up in, in the public eye.

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And also the kind of content that,

'cause she was kind of, she got

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famous for being on Euphoria.

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That was a hazard for all of those kids.

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What, what has happened to her, it

could have happened to any of them.

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But also there, she has experienced

controversy before with the,

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uh, the American Was it American

Eagle or American Apparel?

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Beck: A Guess.

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I think it was Guess.

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Dash (2): Oh

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Beck: Was it Guess or am I…

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I'm not sure.

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Might've been American Eagle

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Dash (2): American Eagle.

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Beck: Gotcha

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Dash (2): so that like, they f- she

bore the brunt of that backlash.

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Like whenever everybody read, which

is fair to read like, uh, white, like

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white supremacy vibes in that ad,

in, in hers anyway, you wouldn't read

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it in the other ads that they had

done with that same message, right?

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Like, nobody would read that on Beyonce's.

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Said the exact same thing,

"It's in her genes."

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But, uh, she's not a blonde-haired,

blue-eyed white woman, so they

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didn't read the white supremacist

message into Beyonce's.

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And American E- Eagle dumped

it all on Sydney Sweeney.

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They, uh, their quote response was,

"Oops, sorry, we put a hot white

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woman with blue eyes in our ad."

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Like, they fully just put it on her.

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And when she was asked to

atone for it, she didn't.

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She didn't s- when people were like,

"Well, so are you a white supremacist?"

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And she didn't say anything.

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And that's probably not what her

publicist would've hoped for.

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if sh- assuming she has one.

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They all get media training of some kind.

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But I really empathize with her.

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Whether she is one or not that's not

really what I'm talking about here.

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And, uh, I'm not really making

an apology for that sort of ad,

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'cause it was tone deaf and stupid.

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But what is she, 20-something?

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Beck: Did you see the

Converse ad this week?

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Dash (2): Yehaw

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Beck: Oh, you'll have to

Google that afterwards.

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I'm talking about this

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Dash (2): oh, the Converse ad, uh,

with the, the lynching overtones

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Beck: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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and somebody else said that I was part of

the patriarchy for being mean to someone.

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I was like, "Well, if you're an

American for more than five minutes

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and you don't see the undertones

of this image, then you are clearly

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an idiot with your eyes wide shut

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Dash (2): And I don't

think it's accidental.

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I don't believe that these people whose

entire careers are to play on those

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subcurrents to identify and weaponize

and monetize the most potent American

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unconscious themes accidentally made an

ad that looks like a fucking lynching.

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Beck: It would be different if

American culture wasn't spread

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across the universe like it is.

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You know what I mean?

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So even the Korean people that made

the ad should have some understanding

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of, uh, if they've enmeshed themselves

in American culture and movies and

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music and stuff like that, it's there.

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You know what I mean?

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It doesn't take a lot to figure it out.

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But these people were American

the ones that I was talking to.

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I called a girl an idiot.

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but the people that made the ad were

Korean, and that's the only It's not

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an excuse, but I kinda understand it.

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But again, I think that they had to

have understood it And somebody American

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saw the ad before they put it on the

American Converse site, you know, and

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they didn't say, "Hey, what about this?

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This is bad."

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I always tell my students is one of

the reasons they make you take a class

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like mine is because you're gonna be in

boardrooms and advertising circles and

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decision-making, and you can stop your

company from, you know, bad PR by being

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like, "This is not a good idea Having

some exposure to this kind of stuff

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Dash (2): Yeah, I don't know.

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There's…

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I don't, what I was getting at with

Sydney Sweeney is that I could s-

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w- at her age, like, we like to say,

like, okay absolutely somebody who's

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at her age is responsible for their

for their actions and the way that they

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conduct themselves and stuff like that.

448

I would have probably reacted similarly

if somebody had, had treated me the

449

way she was treated by American Eagle,

by them saying like, yeah, I know

450

they sort of dumped it all on her,

and then everybody running to her

451

asking her to make the apology for it.

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I was such a cunt when I was 28.

453

I probably would have said something.

454

I'm still a cunt.

455

I probably would have said something

like she said, which was, "I don't…

456

If I wanted to say something,

I would've said it by now."

457

Like, I have probably

oppositional defiant disorder.

458

The only way to get me to do the

opposite of what you are asking me to

459

do is to tell me to do it, especially

if I don't feel like it's fair.

460

So now she swims in those waters

because of that first controversy,

461

so maybe she's stuck in them now

462

Beck: Maybe she likes it

463

Dash (2): Maybe she does.

464

Maybe she made more money off of it.

465

Beck: Yeah, there's no such

thing as bad publicity, you know?

466

I gotta say,

467

a little bit, I just read it and it

looked like it said the Festival of

468

the Burger Ass, and I had to wait

for you to come in more focus to

469

understand that it said Bluegrass.

470

I was wondering, what the hell is

the Festival of the Burger Ass?

471

Dash (2): Well, there's today's title

472

This is why s- like, we're

never gonna get any SEO.

473

Actually, the internet is dead anyway, so

474

Beck: Yeah

475

Dash (2): I've been…

476

Well, when I was trying to

troubleshoot the issue I was having,

477

you can't find a website written by

a human anymore, and everything is

478

written blog style, and so you…

479

I, I, what are we gonna do?

480

Like, information is just gone

481

Beck: And it's all AI overview no

matter what you Google And it's totally

482

Dash (2): Yehaw

483

Beck: most of the time

484

Dash (2): So we're gonna have to

rebuild the internet when this is over.

485

Beck: Yeah

486

Dash (2): So far the, there are

a few remaining bastions like

487

Wikipedia, which I'm very scared.

488

Every time you go to Wikipedia

now it asks you for money

489

Beck: I donate

490

Dash (2): I have to…

491

Maybe that, that's, maybe that's

why it asks me for money every time.

492

Maybe if you've never donated

to Wikipedia, let us know

493

if it asks you for money

494

Pedia needs a Patreon

495

Beck: Yeah.

496

I've probably donated, like, 20 bucks

over the years to Wi- Wikipedia.

497

I use it all the time,

so I figure that's fair

498

Dash (2): Mm-hmm.

499

Beck: And in $2 increments,

you can't beat that.

500

So that's fair.

501

They're like, "We give you

all of human knowledge.

502

Give us $2."

503

Okay.

504

Dash (2): There was, uh, th- this was

505

made a Twitter post that said, like,

w- I think in regards to Wikipedia,

506

like, we really did build the modern-day

Library of Alexandria just off of nerds'

507

incessant need to correct each other.

508

'Cause that's kinda what made

Wikipedia, was like, somebody says

509

something, somebody else moderates

it, somebody moderates the moderator.

510

Have you ever looked at Conservopedia?

511

Beck: Never even heard of it

512

Dash (2): oh, you are gonna love

this, dude, because it's a guy that…

513

So I used to be a Wikipedia moderator

way back in the day and there was a dude

514

it you couldn't do that if you had an

ideology, a, a extreme agenda or bias.

515

If you were grinding an ax, you just,

that, we, you had to control for that.

516

And so, like, anybody can and I think

still anybody can edit Wikipedia,

517

but the moderation is pretty strong.

518

It is pretty much, it's basically

peer-reviewed, and this guy was constantly

519

editing everything to be re- extr- like

this extreme right-wing kind of thing.

520

He wanted to create certain pages that,

you know, couldn't allow, and so he

521

was finally banned, 'cause you will

get banned from Wikipedia if you try

522

shit too many times, like if you try

to do too much editing too many times.

523

And you're not gonna guess who

he wa- who he turned out to be

524

Beck: Two

525

Dash (2): Phyllis Schlafly's son

526

Beck: I spit every time I hear her name.

527

That is her legacy.

528

' Cause we talk about her

529

too

530

Dash (2): I don't remember if

his name is, is Philip or Chris.

531

Oh, they're cel- I just went to it.

532

They're celebrating over one

billion page views since they

533

were founded 20 years ago.

534

Beck: Wow!

535

Dash (2): But yeah it's made to look a

little bit like Wikipedia, but it only

536

has, like, a couple hundred pages, and

they're just they're political screeds.

537

They're just diatribes.

538

It's really funny.

539

It's fun to, to sit and look through,

Here, I'm gonna share my screen.

540

' Cause the, the, it, the, one of the

most interesting things to me is how he

541

chose what things to make pages about.

542

So here's the ver- the

pretty limited list.

543

The demonic NFL just stripped the

outspokenly pro-life critic of LGBTQ+.

544

W- who?

545

This is one of the worst

sentences I've ever read.

546

What is this?

547

The demonic NFL just stripped the

outspokenly pro-life critic of LGBTQ+,

548

twice Super Bowl winning a- parenthesis,

a- parenthesis, as a player, later as

549

head coach, close parenthesis, Tony Dungy,

of his vote in Hall of Fame selections-

550

In March, the liberal

media ended his job too.

551

So that's some of the worst

writing I have ever…

552

And this man is old.

553

But that's basically it.

554

It's a sort of Wikipedia, it's

Breitbart in Wikipedia clothes.

555

So okay, here we got atheism and morality.

556

Oh, that sounds kind of boring.

557

Conservative humor and satire resources.

558

Oh, please tell me more.

559

Beck: Ooh, natural lol.

560

I wonder what that is

561

Dash (2): Where natural

law, where his mom has a

562

has an injury here

563

Beck: under Obamacare.

564

Georgia, Oppenheimer, conservative

links, Obamacare, natural law

565

Dash (2): Natural law is the concept

that there is inherent in human

566

nature a set of universal laws

necessary for a just community.

567

Does he think he's Ray Bradbury?

568

What is with these subjunctive

clauses placed somewhere in the

569

middle of the sentence way away

from the thing that they are

570

Some , Not all, consider natural

law to be one of the gifts of God.

571

Some, not all.

572

Some, including atheists…

573

I can't.

574

Get a copy editor

575

Obama's religion has its own page

576

Beck: the Shroud of Turin.

577

I can only imagine what

they have to say about that.

578

Dash (2): I guarantee it's

in alphabetical order,

579

Beck: Ooh,

580

Dash (2): at least.

581

Beck: It's under…

582

Dash (2): All right

583

Beck: to feminism I gotta see

what they have to say about that.

584

Dash (2): Feminism is a

destructive ideology Wait a minute.

585

This sentence, this second sentence

here, " Feminism denies or downplays

586

differences between men and women,"

that's the opposite of what feminism does

587

Beck: Right?

588

opposes homemaking, child rearing,

and homeschooling while promoting

589

participation by women in predominantly

male activities regardless of

590

their life pursuits or interests

591

Dash (2): Also the opposite.

592

Beck: never taken a women's studies

class without telling me you've

593

never taken a women's studies class

594

Dash (2): Most prominent modern feminists

support abortion and promote misandry.

595

I kinda wanna click on misandry.

596

Beck: just because that's true for me

doesn't mean it's true for all feminists.

597

Dash (2): Right, I, uh, oh,

so you c- your kids, you're

598

saying I'm a prominent feminist.

599

Thank you

600

Beck: I need business cards that say that

601

Dash (2): attributes common to many

feminists include an entitlement

602

mentality and a chip-on-one's-shoulder

attitude, despite often benefiting

603

from a life of privilege.

604

Which, pick an ax to grind, man.

605

Or at least line them

up in some sort of order

606

Beck: What does this painting

have to do with feminism?

607

Woman with a guitar.

608

Is that a primarily

609

Dash (2): A haint

610

Good point.

611

I don't know.

612

There's no caption

explaining why it's there

613

Beck: The feminist ideology is

particularly dominant in elite

614

universities for many large corporations

and competitive women's team sports.

615

Feminism claims it wants to make

men and women equal, but in reality,

616

it opposes equal support for men.

617

Dash (2): Oh.

618

Beck: Won't someone think of

619

comes to feminism?

620

Dash (2): Right.

621

the feminisms, the feminists do

today in the midst of third-wave

622

feminism, girl, or feminazi-ism.

623

Some feminists are enforcers of liberal

censorship and political correctness

624

at the expense of free speech.

625

You're gonna want to update

this in a post-Trump world

626

Okay, let's see.

627

Beck: of

628

Dash (2): He's

629

Beck: second wave feminism and now

what drives third wave feminism

630

was derived from communist…

631

Oh you, you moved.

632

Dash (2): From the communist

doctrine and both have a great

633

deal in common, including the

shared goal of the destruction

634

of the family and the promotion

of homosexuality and promiscuity.

635

Wait.

636

Beck: and promiscuity.

637

Dash (2): Right?

638

Uh, cultural Marxism.

639

Okay.

640

Whatever.

641

Great achievements by teenagers.

642

What in God's name

643

I can't identify what this is for, right?

644

The g- he doesn't do anything without…

645

He doesn't do anything that doesn't fit

an agenda, so what's happening here?

646

Biologically, the rate of brain

development and according to some IQ

647

studies reportedly, in some studies, IQ

reportedly peaks in smart individuals

648

just prior to their t- Is this some

pedophilia justification bullshit?

649

Oh my God, I'm not

reading any more of that

650

Apparently it is both scientifically

and religiously proven that some

651

people mature faster than others

652

That one made me mad.

653

I'm sorry.

654

Beck: Professor Values?

655

Dash (2): It's

656

Beck: a Professor's Values

657

Dash (2): Good.

658

Beck: Under Hun-

659

Dash (2): Good.

660

Whoa.

661

Beck: between Hunter Biden and the

662

Dash (2): This is…

663

Okay.

664

Beck: Let us see what our

665

Dash (2): right, refer to

the common value system.

666

Okay, I didn't know we had one of those.

667

Embraced by a large percentage

of professors just as Hollywood

668

values refer to the common value

system of many in Hollywood

669

Toronto professor Jordan Peterson,

who had a teaching stint at Harvard,

670

was asked if you should still

send your kids off to college.

671

His response was, "Send

them to trade school."

672

Right, which he did not do

673

Beck: Those who hold professor

values often lacked intimate-

674

intellectual humility

675

Dash (2): Oh.

676

Wait, that's hyperlinked.

677

What's intellectual humility?

678

Here's a picture of Aristotle to

make it seem like Aristotle said

679

something about this, which he did not

Intellectual humility can be understood

680

as involving the owning of one's cognitive

limitations, a healthy recognition of

681

one's intellectual debts to others, and

low concern for intellectual domination

682

and certain kinds of social status.

683

That a quote began there but didn't end.

684

What?

685

Who said this?

686

It is closely allied with

traits such as open-mindedness,

687

a sense of one's fallibility,

and being responsive to others.

688

Who the fuck said this?

689

You just, you didn't, you're not

gonna tell me who said it, but you're

690

gonna put a little bullshit quote

691

Beck: John Templeton Foundation

692

Dash (2): Right.

693

The bastion of open-mindedness

694

Whatever.

695

Yeah, so that's depressing.

696

Beck: showing me

697

Dash (2): I can't remember how I

saw this, probably Some YouTuber.

698

Claude Monet.

699

E equals MC squared?

700

The Scopes Trial?

701

Uh

702

Where do you see those?

703

Beck: A couple under that, above

Battle of Gettysburg and ex-homosexuals

704

Under vaccine, there's prime number

705

Dash (2): Oh, there it is.

706

Ex-homosexual.

707

Okay

708

Beck: What could he possibly

have against prime numbers?

709

Dash (2): Let's find out.

710

Okay, first he's just describing it

711

The Gospel of John is built

on the prime number seven.

712

Okay.

713

Fucking God stuff, don't care.

714

Oh, as the building block of all

numbers, which is not true, prime

715

numbers have a spiritual quality that

has fascinated mathematicians and others.

716

This part is in bold and italics,

which is not a formatting.

717

Prime numbers are a great

way to learn and teach math.

718

What is happening?

719

A ma- the link to mathematician just just

goes to the, the Wiki what's it called?

720

The one that's just a dictionary

721

We- I don't know.

722

Anyway, it just has a definition

of mathematician for some

723

reason i- in case we don't know.

724

Pri- okay.

725

Prime numbers are a great way to learn

and teach math, to improve mental acuity

726

and focus, to fend off addiction to

understand great works such as the Bible.

727

No, no citations here, by the way.

728

We're just supposed to ac- accept

that he is an expert in this.

729

How do…

730

Wait, how do prime

numbers prevent addiction?

731

Beck: That's a good question Maybe

732

Dash (2): Okay

733

Beck: everyone to go around?

734

Many biblical parables have-- are

tantalizing similar to prime numbers,

735

such as the parable of weeds, Acts

seventeen seventeen, twice prime is

736

the midpoint of the New Testament.

737

What the hell does that even mean?

738

Dash (2): Don't know

739

In nature, yeah, multiple species of

cicadas reappear every 13 or 17 years.

740

Both are prime numbers.

741

And a full moon on Christmas

happens every 19 years, also a prime

742

number, also all social constructs.

743

Humans have 23 pairs of chromosomes, a

prime number Uh, cicada, so there are

744

dozens of cicada broods two of which

appear 13 and 17 years respectively.

745

Some of them are six,

some of them are five.

746

It's just because years continue

to happen, you fucking moron

747

Beck: I Oh, this is hilarious

748

Dash (2): God, it's it, it

is, but it's exhausting.

749

Okay

750

TikTok, meh.

751

Friedrich Nietzsche, good lord

752

Beck: The Equal Rights Amendment

753

Dash (2): Immigration.

754

Goodness.

755

Anxiety

756

Beck: counter examples to evolution

757

Dash (2): I saw that.

758

There's one about old Earth too.

759

The theory of evolution cannot

allow any counter examples.

760

False.

761

False.

762

If any of the 55 counter examples

listed below is correct, then

763

the theory of evolution fails.

764

Moreover, even if there is merely a 10%

chance that each of these counter examples

765

is correct, and the odds are higher than

that, then the probability that the theory

766

of evolution is false is more than 99%.

767

I it's really an old joke that this

only makes sense to you if you're

768

stupid, because stupid people can't

really understand what makes the

769

things that are smart, smart,

besides being confusing to them.

770

And so they think if they can just

sound confusing, they also sound smart.

771

Oh boy.

772

All right, logical examples.

773

Here we go.

774

It…

775

There's a parrot riding a,

a bike down here Evolution

776

cannot explain artistic beauty.

777

Have, Have you asked it to do that?

778

Is that something we asked

evolish- evolution to do?

779

Beck: such as brilliant autumn foliage

and staggering array of beautiful

780

marine fish who- which originated

before any human to view them

781

Dash (2): What?

782

Beck: Beauty is a sign

of the transcendent.

783

It's purely gratuitous.

784

We all recognize it.

785

We just have to acknowledge

what it points to

786

Dash (2): Okay.

787

And who's this person?

788

I think I'll ask something a

little more knowledgeable than

789

Conservapedia who this is.

790

Biologist Anne Gouger

791

Beck: If evolution were to explain

when human beings came from,

792

the ev- then every personality

type should benefit human life.

793

This is clearly untrue because

the world is filled with liars,

794

psychopaths, and murderers.

795

These traits clearly do

not benefit humanity.

796

Dash (2): Well, I mean, I think

we'd all be better off if a

797

couple of those types met you.

798

Beck: homosexuality were a result

of genetics as many liberals

799

claim, and not a sinful choice…

800

Then evolution should lead the extinction

of homosexuality, yet to this day

801

homosexuality exists among humans.

802

See Causes of Homosexuality

803

Dash (2): Oh, God.

804

Beck: That's how I got the gay This is

805

during long periods…

806

Yeah, it had said something

about body or- odor.

807

Marijuana under mer- worst

college, uh, majors Salvador

808

against him

809

Dash (2): Let's see

810

Beck: Rattlesnake snake symbol.

811

The Wizard of Oz?

812

What does he have against

the W- Wizard of Oz

813

Dash (2): This website is trash.

814

It is not loading, and I think

it's making our lag worse, so

815

this is gonna be our last one.

816

Salvador Dali was a Spanish surrealist

painter and sculptor whose work includes

817

one of the 15 most famous paintings of

all time, The Persistence of Memory.

818

Okay

819

" Dolly's work is featured in Hollywood

movies, avant-garde television ads,

820

and illustrations of the Bible."

821

Oh, 'cause he drew Your Sky Daddy.

822

That's why there's an article about him.

823

Oh, he was pro-life

824

There's no citation on that one

825

Fucking loser.

826

Can you imagine this is

how you spend your time?

827

I mean, granted we're podcasters, but

828

Beck: I mean, that's an hour a week, like

829

this has to take a lot more time

830

Dash (2): Uh, and he's got, and so I…

831

Ugh, man.

832

Okay that's enough Conservapedia

833

Beck: That was fun

834

Dash (2): Jesus.

835

Well, after…

836

I feel like I need a shower after that.

837

Some form of self-care.

838

So maybe some help from

this week's sponsor

839

Beck: Excellent

840

Dash (2): Ziggy has come up here to

join us, so you wanna say hello, Zigs?

841

this week's episode of Queernecks is

sponsored by Cousin Mindy's Mindful

842

Mondays Now, don't get the idea that

this is some corporate cash grab.

843

It's just that me and Mindy were talking

about how mindfulness sounds nice in

844

theory, but more often than not, is made

for folks with extra time and money,

845

and we don't know many people like that.

846

On top of the audacity it takes to

rebrand the hard things in life as some

847

sort of luxury, it just feels like one

of the many things that gets stole from

848

you and sold back at a high markup.

849

But Cousin Mindy's got a

whole different take on it.

850

Mondays don't start the work week around

these parts where the service economy

851

reigns, but they are the only day besides

the one that belongs to the Lord that

852

Cousin Mindy shuts down the salon.

853

She'll head out back to the store shed,

clear out floor space, spread across

854

the bare floor an assortment of rugs,

carpet offcuts, her own plantar fasciitis

855

relief mats from under the salon chair,

and those sticky blue on one side and

856

red on the other quad-folding mats from

the daycare she runs during salon hours.

857

There under the hum of the box fan,

she leads a room of all sorts of folks

858

in resetting their nervous system

after 72-hour shifts on their feet, or

859

backs, or fronts, depending on the line

of service we're talking about here.

860

Nursing aides, line cooks, truck stop

cashiers, railroad brakemen, and slightly

861

sheepish, half-peeled drag queens still

subtly dripping glitter across the

862

floor all breathe a sigh of relief as

they convene in Mindy's welcoming glow.

863

Like all communal mutual aid efforts,

Mindy's Mindful Mondays began out of the

864

stated need with four out of every five

folks to get in and out of Mindy's chair

865

groaning with some lower back complaint.

866

It has since grown into a second Sabbath.

867

Some folks bring food items and

coolers of various beverages.

868

Others bring guitars, an upright

bass, dulcimer, and mandolin, filling

869

the air with low, warm strings

that vibrate right up through the

870

floorboards and into your spine.

871

And out in the empty lot next door, the

kids roll around in the grass, absorbing

872

the only weekly communal nourishment they

get where nobody is telling them the odds

873

they'll burn forever after they die or

asking them to remember four times seven.

874

Now, Mindy's service has already

run long enough to build a real

875

tight, beautiful community.

876

But this right here is her

very first stab at marketing.

877

So just to be clear, she won't ever

charge money, but it'd be awful nice

878

if folks stayed to help clean up.

879

That's Cousin Mindy's Mindful Mondays

in the shed out back the salon.

880

Come reset your system, align your

chakras, fill your plate, and make use

881

, of a broom or garbage pail on your way out

882

Beck: That's one of your best ones.

883

That was great

884

Dash (2): Thanks.

885

I, uh, have been to a yoga

class that is like that.

886

Uh, out back of the martial

arts gym I used to go to in

887

Kentucky in Richmond, they had…

888

They owned a apartment building out

back, like behind the, the garage

889

where they had their dojo, and one

of the coaches would do, like, DDP

890

Yoga out there, and we would do that.

891

We would roll out just whatever soft

thing we could find and put it over the

892

asphalt and do yoga, and then people

started bringing snacks and stuff.

893

I miss shit like that.

894

I miss redneck shit.

895

Beck: Yeah.

896

Dash (2): Mm-hmm

897

Beck: That's the one thing church gets

right is the fellowship, in my opinion

898

Dash (2): Yehaw.

899

And it's because so few

things are actually free.

900

In fact, a lot of folks

would say nothing is free.

901

But the, the sort of bare bones, it

comes down to, like, s- there's a cost to

902

everything somewhere, and the difference

between community and commodity is a

903

community is willing to shell out from

its own stores to produce the thing that

904

they get a different kind of benefit from.

905

And I just haven't seen that in so long.

906

I haven't seen it since

I moved to Minnesota

907

Beck: Yehaw

908

Dash (2): I don't know what creates it

909

Beck: Don't either.

910

It's been so long since I've been part

of something like that, I don't remember

911

Dash (2): Yeah.

912

Well, on that note, the Queer Necks, uh,

Patreon will, uh, always have a free tier

913

and The reason I tried to avoid Patreon

actually is because you can't set it

914

up so that the, like, people can just

give you money if they want to, but they

915

don't have to be a paid, recurring paid

member to engage, to get all the content.

916

But Patreon is so much

more popular, people.

917

And it's easy because if you already

have, if you're already supporting one

918

creator, you can just from, you know,

g- search them in the app or whatever

919

and find another one and support it.

920

It's so easy for people to find

you, and so people are more

921

likely to already have accounts.

922

It is fully fucking fall here

923

Beck: It's getting there here You're

a few weeks ahead of us, I think

924

Dash (2): Yehaw.

925

Beck: I'm not ready for it.

926

Like, I'm ready for fall,

I'm not ready for winter.

927

Like, I'm just not prepared for colder

weather to start coming our way.

928

It just lasts for so long, and it's

929

sucks so much.

930

Oh my God.

931

Dash (2): Right.

932

Beck: places in America

933

Dash (2): Every year it hurts more.

934

Like, this is, so many

things about getting older.

935

You know, if you've been told

that getting older is nothing

936

but awful, you've been misled.

937

And I, you know, I hate that for

you, but it's not all bad, right?

938

There's plenty of great

things about getting older.

939

But the physical pain it's like,

it's hard to ignore that's a thing.

940

Beck: Yeah What do you think the

winter equivalent of corn sweat is?

941

Dash (2): Well,

942

Beck: of a

943

Dash (2): Do you remember

the polar vortexes?

944

I mean, we're, they're still having those

945

Beck: yeah.

946

Yeah.

947

Dash (2): But that, oh

God, that made me…

948

That was one of those, like, that was

the, I think the first weather event

949

where that really made me realize,

like, there's places on this earth

950

that have weather that, that can

feel like I have never felt before.

951

That was wild.

952

It was terrifying, actually.

953

Here, I mean, it does, there are a lot

of moments like that in winter here,

954

but it's kind of built different.

955

Like, things are kind of prepared

for it and you can prepare

956

for it if you know how to.

957

These are the kind of people that

say, like, "There's no bad weather,

958

just bad clothing," or something

959

Beck: Right?

960

Dash (2): Which agree to disagree,

961

Beck: that you kinda get used to it.

962

Dash (2): You get better at it

963

Beck: Well, like my best friend

came to visit and it was like

964

March, and it was like a nice day.

965

It was like, you know, 40 degrees or

whatever, and we were wearing thin

966

jackets, and she was like, "Brr,

it's the coldest I've ever been

967

Dash (2): Yeah.

968

Beck: And it was like, " It's a nice day."

969

Dash (2): Yeah.

970

I, and you, I think you

get better at regulating.

971

Your, maybe your body improves at it.

972

And then I get better…

973

I, to me, for me, it's a lot about,

like, structuring the day, like doing

974

the thing, doing things at the time where

the temperature makes the most sense.

975

And, you know, yes having more, the

more appropriate clothing and gear.

976

Rue.

977

She always looks like you just, like,

caught her and drug her out of a lake.

978

Beck: Yeah.

979

She goes stiff-legged, you get her

com- comfortable and she chills out.

980

She still stays stiff-legged with Shana.

981

She's like a little mummy But you force

her to love you and she calms down.

982

She chills out, relaxes

983

Dash (2): like, "Oh, okay.

984

That's fine."

985

Beck: learning.

986

Dash (2): a noun of Appalachian interest?

987

Beck: I did.

988

A good one this week in my opinion.

989

Let me get to it

990

Dash (2): Yehaw

991

Beck: All right, this week's Down of

Appalachian Interest is the musician Bill

992

Withers, the musician who gave us Lean

on Me, Ain't No Sunshine, Lovely Day, and

993

a very good reason to turn up the radio.

994

Withers was born in 1938 in

Slab Fork, West Virginia,

995

and raised in nearby Beckley.

996

His father was a coal miner,

and his early life was rooted

997

in Appalachian coal country.

998

Before becoming famous, he served in the

Navy and worked at an aircraft company.

999

His first album came out in 1971 when

he was in his early That album was

00:47:46,946 --> 00:47:50,066

titled Ain't No Sunshine, and most of

us would consider go- getting through

00:47:50,066 --> 00:47:51,496

the work week an accomplishment.

00:47:51,806 --> 00:47:54,026

Bill apparently had a little

something else brewing.

00:47:54,326 --> 00:47:57,146

His West Virginia roots also

helped inspire Lean on Me.

00:47:57,436 --> 00:48:01,156

Living in Los Angeles, he missed the sense

of community that he had known back home.

00:48:01,456 --> 00:48:04,476

That memory of neighbors helping

neighbors became a song people around

00:48:04,476 --> 00:48:05,926

the world could c- connect with.

00:48:06,526 --> 00:48:09,196

something familiar about that kind

of help, somebody that will come

00:48:09,196 --> 00:48:12,146

get you when your car breaks down,

but you may hear about that check

00:48:12,146 --> 00:48:13,716

engine light the entire ride home.

00:48:14,116 --> 00:48:18,924

album Still Bill alongside Use Me, which

00:48:18,924 --> 00:48:21,334

is the one I'm most likely to turn up.

00:48:21,752 --> 00:48:26,132

that groove can make folding laundry

s- feel consistently cooler than it is.

00:48:26,612 --> 00:48:29,662

Withers belongs in our conversations

about Black Appalachia, too.

00:48:29,672 --> 00:48:32,372

His life reminds us how much

of the region's history we miss

00:48:32,602 --> 00:48:35,482

when we picture only one kind

of person or one kind of music.

00:48:35,792 --> 00:48:38,552

A kid from West Virginia coal

company grew up to write songs that

00:48:38,552 --> 00:48:40,112

still help people feel less alone.

00:48:40,412 --> 00:48:42,380

That's a pretty good reason to

stream him, even a better reason

00:48:42,380 --> 00:48:43,640

to give him another listen

00:48:45,970 --> 00:48:46,230

those songs?

00:48:46,830 --> 00:48:47,120

Dash (2): Nope,

00:48:47,420 --> 00:48:48,540

Beck: Listen to the song Use Me.

00:48:48,540 --> 00:48:51,750

It's one of my favorite songs ever, and

I just discovered it like two years ago

00:48:52,350 --> 00:48:52,900

Dash (2): Okay, hang on

00:48:53,500 --> 00:48:54,790

Beck: It's very funky sounding

00:48:55,390 --> 00:48:55,810

Dash (2): Cool

00:48:56,202 --> 00:48:58,382

Beck: It would be at home on

the country- on the radio today.

00:48:58,442 --> 00:48:59,872

Like, it's so…

00:49:00,266 --> 00:49:00,776

it's good

00:49:01,490 --> 00:49:04,574

Dash (2): Sweet Now I hear you Whoo.

00:49:05,773 --> 00:49:08,463

Every time technology does something,

I just, my heart skips a beat.

00:49:08,533 --> 00:49:10,253

I'm like, "Nope, I don't

have time for this shit."

00:49:15,853 --> 00:49:21,033

Oh, something super, something really

important happened to me over the weekend.

00:49:21,633 --> 00:49:22,143

Beck: What's that?

00:49:22,743 --> 00:49:28,322

Dash (2): I got to see Teenage Sex and

Death at Camp Miasma Third film from

00:49:28,322 --> 00:49:32,502

Jane Schoenbrun first of which was,

like, uh, We're All Going to the World's

00:49:32,502 --> 00:49:36,652

Fair, and then their second film, I

Saw the TV Glow, really elevated their

00:49:36,652 --> 00:49:38,697

status, I haven't seen that one yet.

00:49:38,697 --> 00:49:41,657

I almost clicked on it, 'cause I, I

l- So Teenage Sex and Death at Camp

00:49:41,657 --> 00:49:46,997

Miasma was everything, it was everything

I hoped and also surprised me, which

00:49:46,997 --> 00:49:49,927

is, that's what you want, I think,

in a movie that you've been spending

00:49:49,927 --> 00:49:51,077

a lot of time looking forward to.

00:49:51,677 --> 00:49:56,520

And it's, it's about the horror

movie genre and how queer it is,

00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:57,880

how fundamentally queer it is.

00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:03,380

Like, uh, it doesn't have to have a person

who identifies as queer in it or made by

00:50:03,380 --> 00:50:04,590

a queer director or anything like that.

00:50:04,590 --> 00:50:07,220

Like, no text has to have those

things in order to be queer.

00:50:07,820 --> 00:50:13,290

The slasher genre in particular

is, at its base level, queer.

00:50:13,310 --> 00:50:15,490

You can't, there's no argument against it.

00:50:16,090 --> 00:50:17,580

And so it's kind of about that.

00:50:17,630 --> 00:50:24,450

It's a, a movie that- takes the sexual

undertones or overtones of the slasher

00:50:24,450 --> 00:50:29,290

movie and plays with them a little bit

with these, these two women, uh, Hannah

00:50:29,300 --> 00:50:34,820

Einbinder from Hacks and Gillian Anderson

from every millennial lesbian's fantasies.

00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:39,300

it has some sex scenes that are really,

you know, uh, really pretty good.

00:50:39,340 --> 00:50:40,150

It's, but it's not…

00:50:40,170 --> 00:50:42,150

I kinda was hoping for

a little bit more sex.

00:50:42,740 --> 00:50:45,910

There is a little bit of nudity,

but not, like, gratuitous.

00:50:46,250 --> 00:50:47,290

So I don't know.

00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:48,290

Highly recommend.

00:50:48,890 --> 00:50:51,100

It's not scary, so it's not

that kind of horror movie.

00:50:51,110 --> 00:50:55,350

It's not even really a horror movie,

but there is a couple of, like…

00:50:55,684 --> 00:50:59,154

There's this gag where every time

somebody gets killed they, like,

00:50:59,224 --> 00:51:03,568

explode into a fountain of blood,

like a geyser of blood comes out.

00:51:05,283 --> 00:51:09,813

So, uh, it did make me think of you

because I was like, "This is probably what

00:51:09,913 --> 00:51:12,540

watching these things feels like to you."

00:51:15,614 --> 00:51:18,424

the, well, the joke is that, like,

this isn't what makes anything scary.

00:51:18,674 --> 00:51:22,024

So, like, there's a lot of,

like, amping up the gore in,

00:51:22,074 --> 00:51:23,864

especially in the dude bro…

00:51:24,024 --> 00:51:28,604

it's sort of talking about the male

gaze and queering it, and I really

00:51:28,604 --> 00:51:33,464

appreciated that, like, the, the way

that the queer gaze can be transgender.

00:51:33,624 --> 00:51:35,644

Or sorry, the male gaze

can be transgender.

00:51:35,664 --> 00:51:39,884

It can be sapphic and, you

know, lesbian, lesbionic.

00:51:40,245 --> 00:51:45,235

don't know if it's for everybody,

but it could be for anybody, whether

00:51:45,235 --> 00:51:48,715

you like horror movies or not,

if you're just interested in…

00:51:49,315 --> 00:51:50,165

And it's silly.

00:51:50,205 --> 00:51:51,055

It's funny.

00:51:51,075 --> 00:51:56,505

There are so many moments where I just

cackled e- especially around, like, the,

00:51:56,615 --> 00:51:59,855

it's these two people who are both like,

"Yeah, sex is kinda awkward for me."

00:51:59,865 --> 00:52:05,935

It really felt like what we were started

out talking about with how, w- maybe an

00:52:05,935 --> 00:52:09,895

extreme example of how this aversion to

cringe could impact someone being able

00:52:09,895 --> 00:52:14,245

to actually love somebody and experience

intimacy with somebody because you have to

00:52:14,255 --> 00:52:17,771

be willing to be cringey to have good sex

00:52:18,102 --> 00:52:19,252

. Beck: Yeah, agreed

00:52:20,882 --> 00:52:23,862

Dash (2): I can't imagine what their

sex is like, these, these young kids.

00:52:24,389 --> 00:52:24,889

Beck: Yeah.

00:52:25,189 --> 00:52:25,309

I

00:52:26,459 --> 00:52:26,799

from me.

00:52:26,799 --> 00:52:28,879

When I do sex ed, they won't take

00:52:29,602 --> 00:52:32,052

I'm like, "Put them in the bathrooms

in your dorm," you know what I mean?

00:52:32,052 --> 00:52:33,432

Like, spread them around.

00:52:33,442 --> 00:52:35,612

There's, there, you don't have

to personally need to use them

00:52:35,612 --> 00:52:37,252

to need to use condoms, right?

00:52:37,522 --> 00:52:37,962

Like, you can

00:52:38,842 --> 00:52:40,422

where it would be helpful for other people

00:52:41,022 --> 00:52:45,862

Dash (2): And that's, s- and so there's

three options, two of which are scary.

00:52:46,312 --> 00:52:47,502

So either…

00:52:47,532 --> 00:52:48,382

'Cause that's universal.

00:52:48,382 --> 00:52:51,779

They're not taking the free

condoms from anywhere, or the

00:52:51,779 --> 00:52:52,809

lube or anything like that.

00:52:53,129 --> 00:52:58,872

Or the only thing that goes anywhere is

the Plan B in the vending machines so

00:52:58,902 --> 00:53:02,672

I'm like, "Okay, so you're all, y'all are

fucking and you're not using the condoms."

00:53:03,272 --> 00:53:03,682

Beck: Right

00:53:03,948 --> 00:53:07,828

Dash (2): or the, the other option is that

they're just buying all their own condoms

00:53:08,582 --> 00:53:09,054

Beck: I don't believe

00:53:10,245 --> 00:53:14,045

cause they're expensive when you buy them,

and these kids don't have a lot of money

00:53:14,370 --> 00:53:18,363

Dash (2): and considering their

demographic, the, sale, condom

00:53:18,363 --> 00:53:22,743

sales would tell us whether they

were buying their own or not

00:53:23,343 --> 00:53:26,293

Beck: Whenever I do sex ed, I do--

I have a slide that specifically

00:53:26,293 --> 00:53:29,533

tells them all the places they can

go around campus and buy condoms.

00:53:29,883 --> 00:53:33,443

Like, you can go to the wellness center

and get a bag of 50 of them for 10 bucks.

00:53:33,713 --> 00:53:36,913

You can get them at the health center,

and I even show them on Amazon where you

00:53:36,913 --> 00:53:38,693

can, you know, order them discreetly.

00:53:39,017 --> 00:53:41,707

I also tell them about ohiv.org.

00:53:42,307 --> 00:53:46,347

So, if you're an Ohio resident, you

are entitled to a shipment of free

00:53:46,347 --> 00:53:49,327

condoms every 30 days through ohiv.org.

00:53:49,327 --> 00:53:50,417

It's completely free.

00:53:50,647 --> 00:53:54,097

It comes in a little yellow envelope

completely anonymously, right?

00:53:54,097 --> 00:53:55,577

You wouldn't know what was inside of it.

00:53:55,827 --> 00:53:57,297

And you can do it every 30 days.

00:53:57,297 --> 00:53:58,367

And there's three options.

00:53:58,367 --> 00:54:01,327

You can get the lesbian pack, which

comes with dental dams and condoms.

00:54:01,617 --> 00:54:04,262

You can get the magnum pack, which

comes with the magnums, and then

00:54:04,262 --> 00:54:05,487

you can get the regular pack.

00:54:05,717 --> 00:54:07,487

They all come with lube

and that kind of stuff.

00:54:07,727 --> 00:54:12,737

You can also get free HIV testing through

that website and free STD otherwise

00:54:12,767 --> 00:54:14,857

counseling through that website as well.

00:54:14,887 --> 00:54:16,127

Ohiv.org.

00:54:16,157 --> 00:54:17,367

They're fantastic

00:54:17,967 --> 00:54:22,747

Dash (2): Put that in the show notes

in case anybody has a short memory.

00:54:23,623 --> 00:54:25,383

Beck: Oh, they've added latex-free too

00:54:25,983 --> 00:54:26,693

Dash (2): Oh, good.

00:54:26,723 --> 00:54:31,199

That was-- That's been the number

one bug in the ear of these folks, I

00:54:31,219 --> 00:54:36,329

think, for the past decade, is please

give latex-free co- uh, options.

00:54:36,769 --> 00:54:37,259

But the…

00:54:37,269 --> 00:54:41,559

it's, it was so cost-prohibitive for such

a small percentage, and I don't th- I

00:54:41,559 --> 00:54:45,449

think having, like, sort of worked with

people in the nonprofit space before,

00:54:45,449 --> 00:54:50,309

like, they have to be able to demonstrate

an ROI to get funds for things, and that

00:54:50,309 --> 00:54:52,089

was a place where they, you just couldn't.

00:54:52,689 --> 00:54:56,539

The number of people who are actually

allergic to latex is so small that

00:54:56,539 --> 00:54:58,019

you couldn't demonstrate a need

00:54:58,619 --> 00:54:59,789

Beck: I think that's a newly added…

00:54:59,799 --> 00:55:00,839

'Cause I do it all the time.

00:55:00,839 --> 00:55:03,409

That's how I get my free condoms

to give out to students, right?

00:55:03,669 --> 00:55:05,699

'Cause, you know, as a married lesbian for

00:55:06,539 --> 00:55:08,089

don't really use a lot of condoms.

00:55:08,689 --> 00:55:10,629

Dash (2): you're probably

on a list somewhere.

00:55:11,229 --> 00:55:11,869

Beck: Probably.

00:55:12,395 --> 00:55:15,345

Dash (2): Like, "Oh my God, this

bitch needs her condoms again."

00:55:16,262 --> 00:55:19,288

Beck: I also got free Narcan

in the mail the other day.

00:55:19,288 --> 00:55:21,718

I do all kinds of free offers

when it comes to education and

00:55:21,718 --> 00:55:22,058

stuff.

00:55:22,318 --> 00:55:22,778

And I got

00:55:22,890 --> 00:55:24,360

two doses of Narcan in the mail.

00:55:24,620 --> 00:55:26,630

I've been carrying one in

my backpack just in case

00:55:27,230 --> 00:55:27,540

Dash (2): Yeah.

00:55:28,060 --> 00:55:30,140

That's a good idea,

'cause it is expensive.

00:55:30,140 --> 00:55:36,190

I, w- weirdly, I was prescribed

it after I had my surgery because

00:55:36,340 --> 00:55:39,520

they used a, what you call it?

00:55:39,950 --> 00:55:44,160

For anesthesia, I told them that I

likely had a sensitivity to Demerol,

00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:48,660

I think, because some people in my

family do, and I was like, "You know,

00:55:48,660 --> 00:55:50,860

it's pretty easy to not use it."

00:55:50,870 --> 00:55:51,500

There's other…

00:55:51,510 --> 00:55:54,250

They, there's all these different

cocktails that these folks can cook

00:55:54,250 --> 00:55:56,070

up, and they just chose not to.

00:55:56,070 --> 00:55:59,770

These are also the same people that, like,

kept, like, misgendering me in the notes.

00:55:59,790 --> 00:56:02,370

Like, they would put, like,

female in parenthesis every time.

00:56:02,820 --> 00:56:03,440

So I…

00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:04,810

They just had an issue with me.

00:56:05,220 --> 00:56:09,130

But they used Demerol, and they couldn't

wake me up from anesthesia, and my

00:56:09,170 --> 00:56:12,220

my lungs, I wasn't able to breathe on

my own the way you're supposed to be

00:56:12,220 --> 00:56:13,490

when you're coming out of anesthesia.

00:56:13,650 --> 00:56:17,050

So they Narcanned me twice to

get the shit out of my system.

00:56:17,650 --> 00:56:22,050

And so after that, it was on my

chart, and I think maybe it…

00:56:22,290 --> 00:56:28,110

You have to do this thing, it's called

a pain contract or something, to be

00:56:28,110 --> 00:56:33,050

prescribed pain medication, and maybe it

trig- triggered something in that that I

00:56:33,050 --> 00:56:37,820

was, like a, a user or something, so they

prescribed Narcan to me when I came out of

00:56:37,820 --> 00:56:40,210

the hospital, and it was expensive as shit

00:56:40,757 --> 00:56:44,790

Beck: I have a friend whose son

works in Narcan distribution, and

00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:48,090

all he does is go out and give

demonstrations in stock places and do

00:56:48,090 --> 00:56:49,870

all that kind of stuff which I think

00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:51,490

Dash (2): Cool Yeah.

00:56:52,090 --> 00:56:55,000

I mean, I'm sure that there are days

when the, anybody who does that kind of

00:56:55,010 --> 00:56:57,410

work is just, kinda like with us, right?

00:56:57,410 --> 00:57:02,270

Like, anytime you do a job that

is, i- its goal is to help, you

00:57:02,270 --> 00:57:03,550

just don't get a return on that.

00:57:03,790 --> 00:57:04,210

You know?

00:57:04,250 --> 00:57:07,790

You m- also, m- like, majority of

the time you don't get to actually

00:57:07,790 --> 00:57:10,330

see any evidence that you did help.

00:57:10,930 --> 00:57:16,113

Which is why I say to everybody who has

interacted or, or benefited from a, a

00:57:16,113 --> 00:57:22,033

community resource or a teacher or any,

any person who's been an advocate for you

00:57:22,033 --> 00:57:27,233

and helped you in any way, in whatever way

you can, tell them that you appreciate it.

00:57:27,273 --> 00:57:31,813

Tell them that you understood what it

cost them to do this day in and day

00:57:31,813 --> 00:57:33,353

out if it happens to be their job.

00:57:33,783 --> 00:57:36,763

Y- you know, and not all of us want

you to come up and give us a hug and

00:57:36,763 --> 00:57:38,193

say like, "Oh God, you saved my life."

00:57:38,193 --> 00:57:39,293

Like, that's not what I'm talking about.

00:57:39,293 --> 00:57:42,703

Like, give them a fucking

Starbucks gift card or…

00:57:42,773 --> 00:57:46,933

I've had, uh, it was, there's a, a

subculture at, uh, the m- the campus

00:57:46,933 --> 00:57:50,953

I used to work at of kids making their

own little thank you cards which I just

00:57:50,953 --> 00:57:54,803

think is adorable, and I got several

of those, and that, that was awesome.

00:57:55,070 --> 00:57:56,130

you can make an impact

00:57:56,263 --> 00:57:56,553

Beck: on my

00:57:57,743 --> 00:57:59,963

Notes everywhere with

words of affir- affirmation

00:58:00,019 --> 00:58:01,069

Dash (2): I remember that.

00:58:02,443 --> 00:58:02,933

Beck: ass."

00:58:03,223 --> 00:58:04,463

Yeah, it's still a thing

00:58:05,063 --> 00:58:05,663

Dash (2): That's cute.

00:58:06,263 --> 00:58:07,143

Well, all right.

00:58:07,593 --> 00:58:10,813

On that words of affirmation,

do we have any for Monday?