Packing up your life and moving can feel like a wild rollercoaster—one minute you're soaring high with excitement about new beginnings, and the next you're plummeting into the chaos of boxes, tape, and 'where did I put that?' moments. In this lively chat, Eric G and John Dudley sit down with the fabulous Wendy Glaister from Wendy Glaister Interiors, and let me tell you, it’s a treasure trove of packing wisdom peppered with hilarious anecdotes. They dish out their favorite moving hacks, and trust me, you’ll want to take notes because moving doesn’t have to be a total nightmare! Wendy shares her own moving saga, navigating the trials of packing the little things while the big furniture was whisked away by professional movers—seriously, who knew that your packing strategy could feel like an episode of Survivor? She dives deep into the pros and cons of DIY versus hiring out the heavy lifting. Spoiler alert: there’s a reason movers are a thing! And if you’re like me, you’ll appreciate her practical tips on staying organized, like using colorful labels and keeping track of what’s in each box. Did I mention the importance of pizza? Because pizza is a must for any moving day, especially when your friends come to help—because who wouldn’t want to bribe their pals with a slice of pepperoni for lifting that heavy couch? Eric and John also reminisce about their own moving adventures, including John’s staggering 87 moves (yes, you read that right) which has turned him into a packing wizard of sorts. They all agree that moving is not just about the physical act of relocating—it’s about the emotional rollercoaster that comes with it. From finding your new favorite local spots to saying goodbye to old ones, it’s a journey filled with ups and downs, laughter, and plenty of 'where’s my stuff?' moments. Whether you're gearing up for a move or just want to hear some great stories, this episode is a delightful blend of useful advice and lighthearted banter that will leave you smiling and maybe even a bit inspired. So grab your tape gun and a slice of pizza, and tune in to this packing party because it’s not just about moving; it’s about embracing the adventure that comes with it!

Takeaways:

• Moving can be a total circus, but with the right hacks, like using totes instead of boxes, your stuff will stay organized and stackable, plus you can actually see what's inside!
• Hiring professional movers might seem like a splurge, but trust me, it's worth every penny to avoid back pain and the chaos of moving heavy furniture yourself.
• Wendy's tip on labeling boxes and taking photos of disassembled furniture parts is a lifesaver; it keeps everything organized and makes reassembly way easier when you finally move in.
• Remember that your friends aren’t your moving crew; if you’re going to bribe them with pizza, at least tip your movers too – they deserve it!
• When moving, plan for the unexpected, like a last-minute rush when selling your home; being flexible can save you from a meltdown!
• And finally, don’t underestimate the mental toll of moving; it’s like a game of Tetris with your life, so give yourself some grace as you get settled into your new digs.

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Companies mentioned in this episode:

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• U Haul
• Red Wing
• Casey Logistics
• Willamette Valley moving

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Welcome to the around the House show, your trusted source for everything about your home.

Thanks for joining us today.

I'm Eric G. John Dudley.

Good to see you, brother.

Good to see you, man.

And excited to have Wendy back again.

Always, always super fun.

Hi, guys.

Yeah, no matter.

No matter what mood I'm in, I smile when Wendy's here.

So I'm.

Here we go.

I'm glad at least you don't cry.

That would be terrible.

I do that after, but we won't talk about it.

Well, here's the funny one.

Here we are actually talking about a sub, like last week or the week before that.

We were talking.

We're.

We were talking lawn care, Wendy, and John just isn't a lawn care guy.

This one here is something that both of you guys are now hitting expert mode with.

Johnny's been doing it for decades now.

But we're going to talk about some of our old moving and relocating hacks, tricks, and whatever else we want to call it.

Yeah, yeah.

Oh, gosh.

Yeah.

My friends sign books.

Yeah.

Oh, so you call up your friends and they haul you around books, too?

Well, sometimes when I have them.

That's how you tell where your real friends are, by the way, is when you say, hey, I'm moving and I'm ordering pizza.

Now, if you've moved 83 times, that might be a different story, but, yeah, 87.

Not like I'm counting or anything, but I did actually write them down a while back.

I'm like, oh, that's ridiculous.

Wow.

So, Wendy, you're going through it right now.

So you're kind of living in the world of two homes.

It sounds like.

Yes.

I.

My.

Yeah, it's like a bifurcation of your brain when.

Because all the big stuff, heavy stuff, was done by the movers, like the big furniture and the wardrobe boxes and all that.

But the little things my husband thought would be a great idea for us to do.

And I think there are pros and cons to that.

I mean, at least if I move it, I know how I packed it and what is where for the most part.

But it just takes a very long Time.

It does.

It says, I feel a little bit fractured.

Like, it's hard.

I'm usually very organized and like Monday I showed up to the office and I didn't have my keys and I didn't have my wallet, but I thought, oh, yay, I'm really on time and I'm getting all this done.

And then I arrived here and I thought, what?

And I just, it's just, it's hard.

And I think I. I have a lot of clients that are thinking about aging in place and, or do they downsize?

And I really try hard, if I can, to encourage them to stay where they are because it's so disruptive to their life and their patterns.

And when you get older, certainly it affects you much more.

So this is a good reminder that if you can stay in your home, you should.

Oh my goodness.

Well, for me, one of my biggest hacks is I did this time and it worked out really well.

When I moved here this last, what, October, September, October, I went out.

Instead of buying moving boxes, I bought those like 7.99 to 8.99 Home Depot totes that they sell.

Oh yeah, that's a great.

And then I had a label printer and I stuck them in there and they stack so well and you could put them up 10ft high in a shop or a storage area and they'll hold together where boxes start to kind of.

They start to kind of crush and move around a little bit.

Maybe they're not.

They squish.

The totes don't.

And they kind of lock in.

And then if you're taking some, you can for the.

They put these little grooves in it so my.

On the top and the side of it so you can zip tie them shut so you can tell if people have gotten in them as well.

So if you've hired movers, you can just put some cheap Amazon Harbor Freight or whatever zip ties on it, cut them off so they don't bite anybody.

And now you've got it kind of locked in and you can see if someone's gotten into your stuff or not.

That's a great idea.

Yeah.

And when you're only buying a box is a couple bucks, probably you're only paying five or six more and you've got a tote.

It's not a bad way to go.

And then I always put a date on it too, because if you go back a year or two later and go, I haven't looked at this in two years.

Maybe I don't need it.

Yes, that's the Bad part of that because I moved this last time and I grabbed some stuff and I'm like, this is still shrink wrap from the last time I moved.

It needs to go.

Yeah.

That's probably a good indication that you can live without it, but.

Absolutely.

I have that problem with holiday decor, decorations and things in all those huge bins.

And we have one of the little drop down stairs that come out of your attic.

Yep.

And it's all up there.

And the idea of moving all that is not attractive.

That's next weekend stuff.

Yeah.

That might be hiring those U Haul movers to come over that you can buy off U Haul and get the trailer and just have them come over and climb up, drag it down.

Yeah.

Because I'm ready to add esteem.

Yeah, absolutely.

And so what, what was your first thought?

Was your first thought, Wendy?

Just to get everything that's big over there and then start kind of nickel and diamond and putting stuff away as you go.

My husband had very strong opinions about how this should go, which is fine.

I know.

But when I.

He wants to get to the farm, he doesn't.

He's not worried about teapots.

He's like, I want to get to the farm.

I just want to get out and be on the tractor.

And that's exact.

We did have a little conversation about teamwork and efficiency.

So that was.

You can give him my number if he needs to talk.

I think he probably does.

But yeah, he.

I did convince him to hire professional movers for all the big furniture.

And like I mentioned before, and what's wonderful is the guys that I work with all the time for clients were the guys who moved me.

So I know them and I trust them and I don't have any concerns or worries at all.

And there's only 14 minutes down the road.

So that was great too.

But.

Yeah.

Yes.

But my husband really wanted us to do the little stuff.

So I've been working on it now for months moving the little stuff.

And I think I probably have three rooms left and then that attic.

So we're getting closer.

But I would say it's important.

What I've been trying to do, just because I cannot stand a visual mess, is I'll load up a ton of stuff, take it to the new house, unpack it and put it away and take the empty boxes back to the old house and do it again so that I'm not living in piles and piles of boxes.

Because I just.

I don't do well in a chaotic living environment.

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Oh, I moved the whole pantry.

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So check that box off.

Yep.

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Deal.

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Today we are talking with Wendy Glacier about her secrets to moving.

Let's get back to the conversation.

Oh, okay.

Now I gotta go.

So note for people out there that are selling their homes and stuff, sometimes that happens.

And all of a sudden what you thought was going to be a leisurely move.

And of course, I was trying to.

Up to the last day I was starting to get stuff I had.

Because what happens is with a two and a half week close, by the time they get in there, do their inspections and everything else, you're a week from close.

And then they're like, oh, we want these eight things fixed.

And it's.

Oh, great.

I'm supposed to be moving, but now I'm working on the house.

So it was tough.

It was tough.

Oh, gosh.

Yeah.

That's a little pressure.

Yeah.

Johnny.

87 Moves, Johnny.

That's a lot of seven moves.

Yeah, it is a lot of moves.

Yeah.

Moving from all around to everywhere.

Yeah, yeah.

Put it this way, right?

So I left the states 12 years ago with a suitcase.

I mean, this is just one of those rolling.

Put it in the overhead compartment.

Suitcases and my backpack and my guitar.

12 Years ago, put all my stuff in storage and.

Yeah.

And I just.

In that 12 years, I probably moved.

I didn't even know, right.

Because I just.

I spent four years just traveling.

So I was moving at least every 30 days because it was this Airbnb to Airbnb.

And then I got to Columbia and I've been here eight years now and collected a whole house full of stuff and left it.

Went to Spain for six months, came back, bought a whole nother house full of stuff, got rid of most of that.

And I'm like, I still have a big sofa and a few big bed, but for the most part, I've always been a quick mover.

And you bring up friends helping, and I'm kind of like you.

I get a little.

Because I've moved so many times.

I am the guy that's measuring, okay, how big is.

And I. I'll draw it out.

Okay.

It's gonna fit like this.

And this will go.

I get pretty hyper calculated about it, but even on the fly, you gain that skill of knowing that don't put that there because it's gonna block something that could go right.

I got really good at calculations and I don't know, what do you call that game?

It's like Django packing, right?

Yep.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's crazy.

I mean.

Yeah.

And then John had the experience.

Which one?

U Haul is what I'm talking about.

I'm gonna call out U Haul and we'll just call it as that.

Yeah, absolutely.

Call out U Haul.

That's Called negligence and basically criminal theft and zero records.

They let somebody into his storage unit and empty it out.

Called my old phone number and said, hey, you can come pick up your stuff before it goes to auction.

Because I was, I would always wait, I'm just that guy.

Like, I'll pay it two days before.

Yeah.

And.

And they had the call recorded and I had to hear this guy's voice go, yeah, this is John Dudley.

Somebody's been calling my phone saying I need to come get my stuff.

And they were just like, yeah, can you come tomorrow?

We'll leave it open for you.

They've got cameras.

You need a passcode.

There was no signature on the paperwork that.

Nothing.

They don't have this guy's id.

They never responded to me.

So yeah, U Haul negligent, I'm coming for you.

And what's funny stuff like, yeah, all my, all this stuff, Grandpa's paintings, all my photos, my life, my whole freaking life was in there.

Yep.

So yeah, crazy, like studios worth of equipment.

Yep.

Yeah, they had me as Johnny's emergency contact number.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Oh, I'm so.

Yeah, they just let some random.

And it had to be inside, right?

Had to be because they knew what was in there.

They had opened it before.

They knew there was a forty thousand dollar motorcycle in there and a studio full of music equipment.

And I mean it was easy.

A hundred thousand dollars of stuff in there and 12 years out of the country and they're like, this guy's never coming back.

Let's do this.

That's my guess.

I don't know, I mean, how else could you.

Camera at the gate, pass key.

Like how else could you if you didn't have a buddy work in there?

Anyway, so be careful guys.

If you're traveling the world, be careful where you leave your stuff, even when it's locked and secured.

Yeah, but my moves are easier now and I legitimately had probably 20 boxes of books like you mentioned and.

Yep, 3,000 records.

Vinyl records, which nobody likes to move, but they were like kids to me.

Yeah.

But yeah, I could have used totes.

I was the guy with the boxes and four layers of tape trying to move big heavy boxes of records.

Exactly, exactly.

Squishy slanting pile you talk about.

Yeah, we've all done it.

We've all done it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And I tell you what, Wendy, you're onto something because I've only done this the last probably three or four moves and I didn't do it on this one because I was actually moving into a storage unix.

I didn't know exactly if I was going to go buy another house.

And so a lot of my stuff was like, I'm going to throw this in a storage unit so I don't have to move it twice.

Let's just go figure it out.

Which worked out really well.

So a lot of it was just me dragging into the back of a.

On a lift gate and putting in the back of the truck and kicking it right over to the door that I.

So it was.

There wasn't a bunch on the move side of that, but almost always.

I have now hired a moving company and somebody reputable.

And that's one of the biggest thing.

I think that's one of the biggest scams out there is the moving company scams that you see out there for homeowners.

There are great companies out there to do this and there are other ones that are as scammy as it gets.

I follow Chris Loves Julia on Instagram and they did a cross country move and they, their stuff was held hostage and everyone was watching it happen on stories and just.

It was awful.

And I just.

You're not wired like that.

You just don't think that's gonna happen.

I mean, it just would never occur to me to take people's stuff.

But it's a big deal.

That's why I was just so thankful that it's Casey Logistics and he moves all my clients and he and the team are so great and local and the family's been here a long time and so you get to know the team and.

Yeah.

But I think they've done six or seven moves for clients of mine.

Nice and very involved.

Yeah, Very involved moves.

So I get that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I have a company here just.

It's Willamette Valley moving.

I know I can call them and they're going to show up and just dial it in and be fast, efficient, careful.

Yes.

Yeah,.

Yeah.

I was gonna bring up the friend thing.

I.

Even if I do have friends, I generally won't call them unless it's absolutely urgent.

For that reason I'm like, no, you don't know where to put that in the van.

You're gonna start putting stuff all over the place.

I'm not gonna know where that's going.

You're gonna break that.

I'd worry too much how many things.

Are gonna get dented and scratched on the way out.

You know, I'll do it all until I get to the piano and the two inch tape machine.

Then I'm calling Eric.

Dude, that two inch tape Machine was nightmare.

Getting upstairs, that's like lifting a Volkswagen up the stairs.

I know it's as heavy as my bass amp at the time, so.

Oh, my goodness.

So, yeah, no, it's.

That's.

Those are the secrets that you learn.

Right.

Of.

Okay.

And then another couple little tricks I did is I took apart the badge and I some of that stuff that really needed to be disassembled because then I could throw the hardware in a ziploc bag and gaff tape it to the bed frame.

So I knew it was there.

And I also knew how to put it back together, too.

And not paying movers to assemble it, I can do that, but that was always my rule.

But labeling and parts containment, like you're talking about is for real.

Nothing is worse than like, well, guess we're sleeping on the floor tonight because I can't find the brackets that hold bed frame together.

Yeah, because you're already so tired.

I think it's easy to underestimate how tired you're going to be, too.

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It's so true, though.

It's so true.

And one thing too, that I always say, when you're taking apart that furniture to move it, take pictures of it.

When you're halfway apart with it, take some pictures.

You have a phone in your hand.

Document it.

So when you go, where did this piece go?

It makes a difference.

And I tell you what I have figured out.

It has saved me hundreds of hours labeling those totes.

Because now that it's June, I'm sitting here taking stuff that maybe I put in August, September, October last year that I packed up.

And now I'm like, where is that?

Oh, it's right here.

Instead of having to go look through 42 totes out of the shop, I can go, oh, yeah, that tool's over here in this tote.

Yeah.

And it's kept me doing wild searches looking for that long lost whatever.

Yes.

It's awful.

In fact, I even like today getting put together to come here and do this interview with you guys.

I could not Find my favorite belt that matched the sandals that, like, I could not find it.

It was in my bag, like my work bag.

Yeah.

It's like, how did that.

Of course it was.

Why did.

So I think too, it's also important that was the.

On the way out of the house with your last run of boxes yesterday.

No, but that's, I think too is.

I really.

I. I have more grace for my clients than I have for myself.

Because I will tell clients, if you can, don't schedule.

Big things are things that you really have to focus on for at least the next week or two.

Yeah.

If you can just kind of try and put those things off.

Because after you've moved, it's just going to take you a little bit to get back in a rhythm of life.

And I did not allow myself that at all.

And I'm really paying for it now.

But it's true.

I just think you have to give yourself a little bit of grace that way.

And all the dumb little things, too.

You go to order something online and it wants your zip code.

Now it's a different zip code.

And you're like, yeah, I have no idea.

Did I change that over yet or did I not change that over yet?

You know, getting all your paperwork done and your credit cards and this CRV is one thing, but they always check your zip code too.

So you have to make sure, set some time aside and sit down and do it all at one time so that you don't think, oh, did I do this one or did I not do that one?

Or have I changed this thing or not that thing?

Because you do.

You just get stuck super discombobulated.

And I think it's just, you're not.

You just.

You can't prepare for it.

You think you can, but you, you are.

You are.

You're not.

I had a funny, moving story, talking about news type stuff like that and just stuff coming in the mail.

This was crazy.

Last week I got a notice in my mail that said you need.

You have a certified letter coming that you need to sign for.

And I'm like, what is this for?

So I went on my USPS direct kind of where you can see what your mails coming in.

I looked at it and it's from a roofing company.

I'm like, why?

That's weird.

So then I'm like, somebody buying something in my name.

So I called them up going, if that's a lien release.

Well, here's what they did is they were on working on my old house, putting A new roof on it.

Doing some work on it.

For some reason, they still had my name when they did the lien release.

So they were sending me a lien release information for the roofing.

And I'm like, hey, guys, I'm not sure we got this information, but I haven't owned that house since October.

So now I'm questioning.

I'm like, what information did they have?

Because they automatically had my name.

I want to call the title company there, Sparky.

That's kind of what I'm thinking.

I haven't gotten to that.

They're supposed to handle that stuff.

Yeah.

Shouldn't that have been swapped over?

Why did I get the lead release paperwork?

So why did I pay $4,000 for clothing when it didn't get done?

Maybe I own a house.

I don't know right now.

That could be cool.

That could be cool.

Except I love the people that are in there, so I wouldn't.

I would never do that.

But it's.

They're good music people that are in there.

So it.

Oh, that's great.

Happy they got it done.

But I thought it was really weird.

I'm like, oh, that's a weird one, huh?

So maybe they're just.

It could be they're paying for a service and the service is outdated and.

There's always there you.

Yep.

You brought up the zip code thing.

I mean, I've just grown accustomed to.

For decades now.

So many cards, different phone numbers.

Right.

I didn't.

I literally didn't log into Facebook for six years or something because I was like, I know it's going to be a 45 minute process of we just sent a text to two phones ago and what email address and what's the password of that email?

I'm like, I forget it.

And somehow I magically got in.

But you probably didn't.

But yeah, I mean, no, I didn't.

And I still.

I never use it.

But I needed to get in there to start my instabit account as a business account.

Yep.

That was the easiest route to go.

So any.

But yeah.

Standing at the gas station and you put the credit card in, you're like, oh, what zip code was this one from?

And you're like, yeah, try it again.

Try it again.

Yeah, the other one.

That's.

That I've seen that gets interesting too, with that.

And it just.

It's one of those things that just gets wild.

Is trying to keep track of everything.

It's okay.

Now you have two.

When you're in the middle moving and you're doing kind of like the slow move like you're doing, Wendy.

You've got now two trash places, two power, two water, two whatever.

And trying to navigate that was interesting as well.

And for me, the hardest was trying to move over the smart stuff Because I had a hundred smart things in my house.

Trying to get that moved over to other people and to get my accounts cleared up so I could start it at the next one.

Some companies are easy.

Some are a lot harder on trying to.

Because they were moving into a house that I took some of the stuff with me that wasn't part of the sale, but they still had probably 40 smart home things in there that they needed to get set up and I needed to log out of so they could take it over.

So that's its own battle.

And for me, it was pretty bad because we had.

I had all these different brands of stuff in there because I'd test it, send it over, we'll play with it.

I had gotten rid of most of the stuff that was not operating like it should, But I had smart locks, two different brands of smart locks.

I had smart blinds.

I had all these things going on.

Every light switch was controlled.

So it was one of those things.

To try to get it converted over was not easy.

And it took a number of hours just to get that stuff handed over.

And still for him, it took him a few weeks to get stuff logged in and get.

Get it up to running because it just wasn't cooperating.

Oh, boy.

Doesn't sound.

It's a good point.

Smart.

To me, it doesn't sound smart.

But the problem is when I have.

A switch, I push it.

Light comes on.

That's all.

It works.

Yeah.

Security has gotten better over the years.

It just added different levels since I had first installed it.

So then you had to kind of wind that back.

So, Wendy, what else do you have going on here?

So you just basically have to get the last little bit.

And to me, the worst part is the last two loads out of the house, where you've got all these mismatched little things that you're trying to.

Well, I have an entire design library, Those coffee table books that I have to move, all the stuff for, entertaining.

All the linens, all the china, all the silverware, all the crystal.

So that's.

It's gonna be.

It's gonna be a little while yet.

So our son Jake, who's 26, is staying in the old house by himself and really living the high life with the pool and the stereo, the whole thing.

And he has neighbors over all the time.

He's having a great time while I'm going back and forth and back and forth with loads.

It's really funny.

You should give him.

Give him the packing material in the boxes or totes to make sure it's all ready to go.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I'm wondering why he's at the pool and you're.

You're packing boxes.

He's at the pool.

What?

How's that work?

26 Years old.

Help your mom out.

Come on, Jay.

I know.

He's like, oh, this guy have plans.

They always have plans.

Yeah, real busy, Mr. Y.

But I'm trying to have a good attitude.

This way, I know I'll be really strong and conditioned by the time it's all over.

And then it takes a number of years before you go start.

Yep.

Start getting ready to move again.

No.

I told my husband, I'm gonna die in this house.

We better not ever move again.

Never.

I'll just wander out in the field, working in the garden, and then.

Then I'll be it.

There you go.

There you go.

That's what I was gonna say.

Strong and conditioned.

Now you can get to work on the farm.

There you go.

Yeah, there's a lot to do.

It's crazy.

We heard coyotes the other day.

That was new for me.

Nice.

Cool.

All the time now.

So, yeah, we need a goat.

You know, I heard they're social animals.

They need friends or they get depressed.

Well, then get two goats and be nice to them.

It's all about, yeah,.

I love goats.

I would have a goat on my balcony if I could right now.

I absolutely love goats.

Get two goats.

John Wayne in Southern California had a cow on his balcony of his condo that lived up there because he wanted to have milk fresh every morning.

So when he lived on the Sunset Strip there for a while, he literally had a cow up living on his little veranda patio so he could have milk every day.

That seems kind of mean.

I'm wondering how they got it up there in the elevator.

I mean, that's the question I had, but.

Well, I mean, that's a big animal.

It can't just live on a balcony.

Right?

That's what I was thinking, too.

I wasn't there, but.

Big can of John Wayne.

Eric, I'm so disturbed by this piece of info I know my husband loves.

You've upset her again.

So I'm consistent.

I don't like the suffering of any living things.

It makes me worried.

Oh, gee.

Well, you should move to Portland, Wendy.

Oh, no.

Here goes.

Here goes John on this one.

I gotta throw it in every episode.

I need more sunshine.

I can't do Portland.

So let's go down this rabbit hole for 30 seconds and I'll cut it off.

But we've been quiet.

I just had to throw.

I had to throw the brick, see if you'd catch it.

Oh, yeah, I gotta catch it.

So in Portland, they're trying to.

The.

I always call them the PETA people.

The people trying to defend animals out there.

And I love animals, don't get me wrong.

But I also stink too.

But they are trying to make it where any death of an animal is a felony, basically.

So if you kill a mice or a rat, you can go to jail.

If you hunt or fish, you can go to jail.

And I think they've about gotten their 125,000 signatures to get it on the ballot now.

It's so ridiculous that I'm actually looking forward to ad season because I want to see what the AI ads do for this one.

Because Johnny and I have been joking about making ads for this again.

Like, let's make some.

Get it.

Be fun.

It'd be fun.

But it's.

Yeah, they literally.

Single mom could be taking the rat trap outside and she could get arrested because somebody called the cops on her for animal abuse.

I think there should be categories.

I mean, I don't think you could just.

Yeah.

So literally it's gonna.

You can't just.

You can't just have rats breeding everywhere and not controlling.

Especially with the hantavirus stuff out there.

Right.

Kind of like the rotten time you can't have doing that too.

So you want the Black Plague to come back.

Yeah, I mean, that's what's going on.

No, speaking of moving, I might be moving out of Oregon if they do that.

Oh.

Oh, no.

So ridiculous.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I can't imagine.

Yeah, so that's not healthy for anybody.

I mean, I think we're smart enough here to not do that.

But you know, there's that little question mark in your head that goes, well, I think everybody's smart enough for that, but we'll have to see what happens.

So I could have another coming up too, if that ever passes.

Because I'm not going to line.

I'll put money on that line.

I. Yeah, no, it's the dumb stuff.

But anyway, back to moving.

I'll back onto the railroad track here again.

Now that we've been out in the.

Field, let's get off the humans disappointing at scale bit.

Exactly.

So it's Interesting too.

One thing that I noticed moving and it was really hard.

I don't like when I have to move.

Used to be able to go down and get a rental truck that had a lift gate on the back.

For me, moving my big toolboxes isn't tough.

I don't want to push that up a 24 inch ramp to get 500 pound rolling thing up in the back of the truck because it's just too sketchy.

It is very hard.

I only found one company in this whole metro area and it was enterprise commercial truck division that I could rent something that had a lift gate on the back.

And you would think you used to be able to get those things all the time.

Like with budget and writer and all those companies back in the day.

And in my area, nobody.

They just all went back to ramps.

And I'm like, I don't want to.

I don't want to hurt people pushing something that.

That heavy up a ramp.

Maybe it was like a liability thing though, because if you get caught in the workings of that lift gate, I mean that's what I just.

That's a. Yeah, that's what I was thinking.

Yeah.

Yep.

Good call.

Good call.

That makes a couple of limb loss cases.

Maybe we don't rent those anymore.

That fixed them pretty good.

Yeah.

I'm.

Insurance companies, like if buy more of these, we're not going to spawn.

We're not going to.

We're not going to.

You're not going to be covered.

Let's put it that way.

Huh.

Yeah.

But that was kind of difficult and that was interesting.

What's.

What was the hardest you've had to move so far?

Yeah.

Oh, I didn't have to move it.

Thank God.

The guys did though.

Speaking of toolboxes.

So I have this white toolbox, big rolling husky toolbox on casters.

And it has a faux cutting board type top.

Yep.

And I used it as an island in my closet.

Yep.

And so the guys, I emptied it out.

There was nothing in it.

She's feeling it.

She's feeling that every word that's coming out of her mouth right now is.

Is gonna.

There's gonna be repercussions.

She's very hesitantly with the.

I just.

The whole time I just kept apologizing to the guys.

I'm like, I'm so, so sorry you guys.

Because they had to get it down the stairs and out to the truck and up into the truck and then out again and up this curving staircase.

This huge.

I was embarrassed, but not so embarrassed that I didn't want it in my new closet.

So.

Yeah, I'm sure they told stories about that.

I like that.

I like that.

They got a tip though.

You need.

Those are tough.

You have to tip the people who move you.

Oh, yes, absolutely.

I think we should talk about that.

Because let's have that conversation.

People don't do that.

And I like.

But you know, I still do.

But they're looking you weird.

They're like, what?

No, don't.

Well, I'm like, no.

Oh no.

If they, if those guys hadn't helped me, I can't even imagine.

They saved my life.

Yeah.

Saved my life, Wendy.

That's.

Go get cash, guys.

Just go to your atm, grab the cash out that you're going to do it, slip them the cash, everything's good.

And that's just as doing the waiter at your restaurant.

Yes.

Because sometimes my clients won't think about it and they'll say after the fact, oh my gosh, I didn't tip them.

Oh my gosh.

And I'll say, no, I got it.

Because I mean, where would we be without help like that?

There's just no way.

So I try to be really conscientious about that because.

Yeah.

Especially when they're taking the care to get your stuff across town and they.

Have it busted stuff up and make sure you have cold drinks on hand and waters.

And we went and got everybody pizza for lunch.

And that's what I do too.

Pizza's great.

Yeah.

Because it's just back breaking work.

So.

Yeah.

And it's way easier than it is to lift that thing down the stairs.

Don't be chintzy and not take care of people.

If you can't afford to tip them, you shouldn't be moving.

There we go.

There we go.

Words of wisdom.

I'm usually too nice.

They can be rude and run over my glasses and break something and I'm still like, you know,.

You just, you're just trying to get through the process.

That's the big part.

Right.

You're just trying to get through the process.

And the quality movers, if you've got them on lockdown and you've got the people.

And for you it's even more important because this is an ongoing business relationship.

Yes.

I need them to remember that I care about them and then I will do them no harm.

Yes.

So it comes in handy for the next.

That's a two way street as well.

Yes.

Oh sure.

They're really good to me.

I'm really.

Yeah.

You want that?

I had a company When I was in Seattle with my big design firm up there, that was just my receiver in shipper for cabinetry.

And they were a white glove service kind of people.

The truck would come in, they'd check it off in the cabinetry.

They'd let me know if something was damaged or looked a little sketch so I could go over and take a look.

I'd have pictures of any scratches on anything, and it would be noted on the stuff.

And then when it was ready to go, I'd call them up and they delivered inside the house into the room for them.

And it was just the right way to go.

And those guys saved me so many headaches because they took the time to check it in and made sure that stuff wasn't damaged, which with cabinetry that can take six to eight weeks to get replacement parts sometimes, depending on where or what country it's coming from.

And that saved you a lot of headaches when they caught it the first time.

Yeah, there's nothing like white glove delivery.

It's nice.

It's so nice.

My craziest one we had to do.

I felt bad for these guys.

And it was the one that I'm like, there's not a tip that is going to fix this.

I was up, I think I was in the band at this time, Johnny, But I was up working on a project up in the Medina area.

And this guy of Seattle, and this is where Bill Gates house is.

And it's that, you know, most expensive zip code in Oregon, in Washington, I guess.

But he was doing the man cave.

And he bought an old Wells Fargo bank door and had to carry it down the stairs.

And two of the guys broke the oak stair treads on the way down because their foot went through it because they were each carrying 200 pounds.

And there was like 10 guys carrying this thing down there.

And you just kind of go, oh, they got it in.

But I would have rather, after seeing that happen, I'm like, I would have rather dug the front yard up and got a concrete cutter in there, cut a hole in the wall and run it in, patch it back up, than to go down the staircase again with it.

It was just a disaster.

So careful what you put in the house because at some point you might have to get it back out.

Yeah.

Like that toolbox.

Poor guys.

I got one of those toolboxes.

Yeah.

I mean, it's not my closet, but it's got tools in it.

Upstairs in your closet?

No.

Oh, yeah.

And they said, why do you put in this?

I'm like, well, scarves and gloves and it's like little drawers.

Kind of a rock and roll way of doing it.

I like it.

Actually, Eric uses his for the same thing and it does have the faux finish.

It's just not upstairs.

My scarves go in there.

Those are the ones I stole off of Johnny's mic stand, so it's okay.

And there's leggings, yoga pants.

Did I say that out loud?

Sorry.

Oh, yeah.

Gosh.

All right, guys.

We have really covered here some great moving tips and some funny stories as well.

Thanks, Wendy, for coming on again.

I think we had some good stories, but I'm not sure how many tips we gave away.

Totes.

Oh, we gave some stuff out there.

Organization.

Take your time.

Hire somebody else.

Hire someone else.

Don't abuse your friends.

Don't abuse your friends.

Leave them alone.

Tips.

So, Wendy, amazing and interior designer.

Somebody wants to hire you.

Where do they find you?

Oh, thank you.

You can find me@wendy glacierinteriors.com It's G L A I S T E R. And we do work all over the country and now in Maui as well.

So it's very fun.

I'm very grateful.

Thanks, Wendy.

Awesome having you on here.

We always learn so much and it's a good time for us to all banner and tell some stories as well.

It's so nice to see you guys.

Seriously.

Thanks for having me.

You're the funnest, coolest guest ever.

Always.

Now I just pissed off ten other guys, but.

Yeah, exactly.

No, I really appreciate it.

Thank you much.

Thanks, Wendy.

I'm Eric G. And for John Dudley.

This has been around the house.

There.