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Not By The Ear, But By The Spirit
Episode 36625th January 2026 • Live Behind The Veil • The Epistles
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Summary

Not by the Ear, but by the Spirit centers on learning to hear the voice of the Lord beyond human reasoning, preference, or intellect. The speakers emphasize that true hearing comes by the Holy Spirit and is confirmed inwardly and corporately through the many-membered body of Christ. God speaks through many channels—Scripture, family, songs, children, circumstances, and the presence carried by believers—but His voice always resonates with the spirit, not merely the mind. This conversation calls believers to remain open, discerning, and present-focused, hearing what God is saying now, walking in divine order, and submitting every thought, word, and action under the lordship of Christ.

Show Note

  • Hearing God’s voice requires waiting, humility, and openness of heart
  • The Holy Spirit makes the Word alive beyond human understanding
  • God speaks through many spiritual “channels,” not just one familiar voice
  • Divine order comes through confirmation in the body, not private interpretation
  • Hearing in the Spirit protects us from being led by intellect, emotion, or desire
  • Who we are in Christ ministers more than what we say
  • The presence of Christ carried within believers changes atmospheres
  • Growth requires letting go of old thinking, habits, and soulish reactions
  • The mind must become a servant to the spirit, not a challenger to it
  • Christ revealed—not human perspective—is the highest form of revelation
  • KnowingaboutGod is different from knowing Him in the Spirit
  • The present speaking of God is more vital than past experiences

Quotes

  • It’s not about hearing things on a human intellectual level—it’s about hearing in the Spirit.”
  • There are many voices, but when the voice of the Lord comes, it identifies with your spirit.”
  • Who we are ministers more than what we say.”
  • Our spirits speak louder than our words.”
  • Divine order is when you hear a word from God and it resonates and is confirmed through your brothers.”
  • You can’t iron the wrinkles out—you have to fill the bag.”
  • It’s a determination not to be part of the world, but part of the Kingdom.”
  • I knew Him by the hearing of the Word, but now I know Him.”

Scriptural References

  • Romans 8  The Spirit bearing witness with our spirit
  • John 10:7  “My sheep hear My voice”
  • 1 Corinthians 2:9 -16  Spiritual discernment vs. natural understanding
  • 2 Peter 1:20 - 21  No prophecy of Scripture is private interpretation
  • Judges 21:25  Everyone doing what was right in their own eyes
  • Colossians 1:27  Christ in you, the hope of glory
  • Proverbs 16:32  He who rules his spirit is greater than one who takes a city
  • Matthew 6:22  The single eye
  • Job 13:15; 42-5  Trusting God and moving from hearing about Him to knowing Him

Takeaway

Hearing God is not a matter of preference, intellect, or familiarity—it is a matter of spiritual resonance and submission. The Lord is speaking today, and discerning His voice requires a yielded heart, a renewed mind, and openness to confirmation through the body of Christ. As we walk in the Spirit, Christ comes forth in us, our presence carries life, and we move from knowing about God to truly knowing Him. The question remains for each of us: Are we hearing what God is speaking to our spirits right now?

Transcripts

Ken:

How do we hear the voice of the Lord, and the importance of hearing from God through an apostolic ministry, and our hearts being open to hear what God’s speaking.

Monnie:

I’m learning how to wait upon Him to hear His voice and know His voice through the Holy Spirit by listening to the Word, being in the Word, and have an open heart to receive who He says He is.

For my own heart, He is my Lord, He’s my Messiah. And also wait upon Him and hearing the voice of the Lord through my family and others that are around me, and to trust and to believe what He says, who He is.

Bill:

I think there’s many channels open to us in the Spirit. Just think about in the natural: I could get a text, I can get a cell phone call, I can get a landline phone call, I can get a message. I can get all of these things in the natural.

And I think in the Spirit there’s something similar. It is all from the Lord. It’s all from the triune nature of God, but it may come through the voice of a child. It may come through the words of a song. It could be a scripture that jumps out at you. It could be a word spoken to us from Texas or California or wherever.

Today, bless us to stay flexible, Lord, and always be searching and always be expecting to find You in places where we haven’t found You before. It really behooves us to have definite channels like the trust of one another and the Word, and to say, “Yeah, I have all these bedrock principles that we’ve grown up with.”

Let’s see, what is this thing of meditation? Oh, let’s see, what is this thing of quantum? What is this thing of the mind now becoming a help to our spirit, not a thing that challenges and so on? But we are thankful that we are grounded in so many principles and things of the Lord, and we are staying open to the next thing that God will do for us, to us, through us.

Lois:

I am trusting that what the Lord has begun, He’s faithful to perform, and my job is to love Him, to delight in Him, to hunger, to read His Word, and let Him do the work and order my steps.

Ken:

It’s about speaking. It’s about hearing. It’s about really hearing in the Spirit. I know that we hear things on a human level. Even scriptures read on the human level without the Spirit of the Lord making them alive can be lie, but when you hear things in the Spirit from the Lord Himself in the Spirit, and you identify it with what He’s been speaking to your heart, then the voice of the Lord comes through loud and clear.

We’ve talked in the past a little bit about divine order. What is divine order today? I think we’re touching on it right now. Divine order is when you hear a word from God and it resonates in your heart, and you find confirmation for that same word coming through your brothers.

I know that we can be taken off the dime by resting on our own intellect, our own interpretation, our own way of thinking. Too often we listen and interpret things based on our human way of thinking or a soulish way of thinking, and this is a day of Spirit.

I think we’re hearing a word from the Lord in the Spirit that is directing us in the way we should walk and what we should hear and where we’re going. There’s no stopping place.

It’s not about hearing things on a human intellectual level, and I think sometimes we get mixed up. “I just heard something that I really like and I think it’s really a good thing, so I’m gonna believe that.” Have you tested that in the Spirit? Did you hear it in the Spirit, or was that a voice that you confirmed because you wanted to hear that?

A lot of things we do are based upon what we like and what we want to happen. There are many voices, but when the voice of the Lord comes through, it identifies with your spirit. Isn’t that what Romans 8 talks about a lot?

We know that we have this confidence because we hear the voice of the Lord coming through our brother. We hear it by the Spirit.

Beryl:

If you hear a different drummer, dreamer, take the chance. The road you choose to travel means the difference in the dance.

Have I heard a different drummer, and am I willing to take the chance to drop the things that have been holding me back and to dance with the drummer?

Are we willing? I am so caught in some of my old habits, my old thinking, my own feeling about things. Have I heard that drummer? Have I heard what God is saying to me?

Ken:

I think that we need to be more and more aware of the fact that who we are ministers more than what we say. Just our presence changes things, the things of the Spirit.

It can be so mystical and yet more of a reality than consciously thinking. Our spirits speak louder than our words. We are in a new day, and opening up to that new day is hearing what God is speaking in the present.

What’s really, really important for us right now is to hear what He’s speaking to our spirits right now through the many-membered body. I know that we can rely on past experience, but I think today God is speaking. The past isn’t good enough. It’s the present. It’s where we are now. It’s what we’re hearing now and how we’re moving into the greatest revelation of all.

So I think the carefulness for all of us today is: are we hearing what God is speaking in the Spirit to our hearts today?

Roger:

Way back during the time of the judges, it was spoken that they all did what was right in their own sight. Everybody had their perspective on how things were. That cannot be for us. There must be a common revelation of Jesus Christ revealed to us.

The Lord Jesus revealed to us—that is the highest realm of utterance there is. Christ revealed. Christ the Word revealed to us. When God brings again Zion, they will all see eye to eye because it’s a revelation of the Lord.

Peter talked about that. He says no prophecy of Scripture is a matter of anyone’s own private interpretation. Men, by the Holy Spirit, spoke from God.

Mike:

Christ in you, the hope of glory. There’s an aspect of His revealing Himself in and through us that’s taking on a life of its own in this hour.

You can step into a room carrying the presence of the Lord and things happen. Atmosphere changes. People are affected and they don’t even know why. Sometimes we don’t even realize we’re the cause of that because of who we are.

We’re carrying the presence of God and the presence of Christ and the presence of the Holy Spirit in us. We’re learning how to be one with God the Father, Christ the Firstborn, the Holy Spirit, and one another.

And the people that really have a heart for the Word of God, they’re drawn to that.

Lois:

I was just thinking of the principle of displacement. Christ comes forth in this. You take the old story of the burlap bag, and I tell you, you can iron that thing and you can do everything in the world to get the wrinkles out of that burlap bag, but you can’t do it.

What you’ve got to do is fill it with grain, and when it’s full, there won’t be a wrinkle.

Monnie:

It’s all under His lordship. It’s oneness to bring us all under His lordship. How important to know His voice, know the truth, so I can bring everything else into subjection to His voice.

Nope, that’s not the word I’m going to think. That’s not going to be thinking in a whole new different way. And that gets to be a real battle.

Nope, that’s not what I’m going to say. That’s not what I’m going to say, and that’s not how I’m going to think. It’s a determination not to be part of the world, but be only part of the Kingdom of God.

Ken:

So what you’re talking about, Monnie, is putting on the mind of Christ.

Lois:

And singleness of eye. Your eye is single, and you determine that.

Ken:

And he that controls his own spirit is greater than he that takes a city. There’s something in the fact that you have a part to play. All of us have a part to play.

It’s our choice to love God with all of our hearts, with all of our strength, with all of our mind. It’s our choice. And when you do that, you begin to think His thoughts His way, be filled with the Spirit.

We can control that part of it if we choose to. God gave us a choice. He didn’t take away our wills, did He? He gave us a free will. We have a choice.

Lois:

I keep thinking of what Job said. He said, “Though He slay me, yet will I trust Him.” I’ll trust what He’s doing.

Ken:

And there is, is God enough? The end analysis of Job’s life was: he knew God by the hearing of the word, but he said, “Now I know His way, but now I know Him .”

What’s the difference? Big difference. Knowing the Lord in the Spirit and walking with Him in the Spirit.

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