Episode 19 — Tom Ferry: The “Both/And” Life, Marriage Guardrails, & Building a Business Without Losing What Matters Most

In this special episode, Matt sits down in Tom Ferry’s studio in Dallas for a real conversation about what it really takes to build a thriving business and a meaningful life at home.

Tom opens up about the “origin story” behind our beliefs around success, the power of learning from multiple mentors (instead of idolizing one person), and why energy, presence, and intentionality aren’t personality traits — they’re choices. They also get practical about marriage guardrails while traveling, protecting your relationship “beyond reproach,” and how entrepreneurs can build big without sacrificing their spouse, kids, health, or faith along the way.

If you’ve ever felt like you’re choosing between crushing it in business or being the spouse/parent you want to be — this one’s for you.

Key Takeaways

1. If you don’t live intentionally, your industry will hand you a playbook — and it may cost you what you value most.
2. You can learn specific strengths from different mentors without copying their blind spots.
3. Strong marriages don’t happen by accident; they’re protected through clarity, habits, boundaries, and communication.
4. Startup seasons require intensity — but they also require alignment so the spouse isn’t left carrying the weight alone.
5. No other win makes up for losing at home.

Memorable Moments

1. Tom shares how he learned business perseverance from his dad — but intentionally chose a different path for relationships.
2. The “and vs. or” shift: cutting the “either/or” mindset out of your life.
3. Tom’s approach to staying faithful while traveling: “I give them no room.”
4. A candid story from 2008 where Tom realized his marriage was at risk — and what he changed.

Links & Resources

1. Learn more and join the community: https://mattfarnham.com/one-life-podcast
2. Tom Ferry / Ferry International (guest): https://www.tomferry.com/

Let’s connect!

1. Instagram: @mattfarnham

Connect with Tom Ferry

1. Tom Ferry: @tomferry