Grace converses with (Rev.) Deb Hansen about migrant crossing and the effects on the parties involved. Rev. Deb, has been a border-crosser for most of her life, exploring cultures, geographies, languages, and wisdom traditions. She had a 20-year career with IBM after teaching French in higher education. She served as a hospital chaplain in Detroit and maintains a small life and leadership coaching practice as well as offering one-on-one spiritual companioning.

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