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And welcome to another show of Don't Get Tasted. am Rob along with my co-host as always, Tina. How you doing, Tina?

I'm doing good Rob, how are you?

tongue twide.

I noticed. It's okay.

Yeah. How you doing?

I'm good. We're just talking about parents and stuff. It's been fun. Right?

Yeah, you know, things that are happening in the world. You know, you know, since Mother's Day was over the weekend, I think. You know, you. Start thinking about. Everything, you know, everyone in your life, everyone's parents and. Realize since me and you both are my moms are both gone.

Yeah.

Everybody that was here yesterday didn't have their mothers and so I called it Happy Motherless Day. It didn't go off like I thought it would, but I thought it was funny.

Hey, and that's a good hook for what we're gonna talk about today. That's an amazing hook for what we're gonna talk about today. We're going to talk about things that 20 years or older would get you canceled today. man, there's, yeah. I mean, I hate to say everything, but yeah, a lot of things.

Whatever.

We didn't even try.

Mmm. Everything. Everything.

everything Even commercials that used to be on like 20 30 40 years now you they can't play those now They always show up on my on my Instagram feed and I think they're hilarious and I send them to all my friends They're like you remember those ones. I'm like, yeah, we can't play those now. I Don't even send them to a certain age group. If you're under this age, you will never see those come through here

Instagram page from me

There are certain videos that I see online that I cannot send to certain friends.

And I'm sure some of them come from me because I will send them your way if they're really bad.

Yeah, it first of all, I think that both me and you we were Gen Xers. So that being said, it's it's very hard to offend us. Like very hard to offend us.

Yeah. We have a little bit thicker skin.

Hmm No, cuz you know when today my brother and I we were giving each other shit and I said something he said something and the end result was like really bad and all we did was look at each other and laugh and he kept doing what he was doing I kept doing what I was doing and my dad's like you guys are wrong and we kept laughing, you know But I don't think he got offended in the least nor did I

I mean, yes, we're about to talk about things like that. That I believe that...

Hmm.

Yes, have things changed? Sure.

tremendously.

because of things that have happened, there's things that will change, right? But that being said, a lot of funny stuff's coming back. Like, I think one of the biggest things that if you notice today, there's no comedy movies.

Mm-hmm.

know what, you're right, I haven't noticed too much of that.

There's not. Like, and if there are, they're kind of woven in with like a superhero movie or they're woven into a romance, because rom-coms have always been around, right? Which is a good way to have a good time at the movies and take your girl, right? It's good for everybody, and it is.

Yes.

There you go.

And a good rom-com is great. I mean, to me, I absolutely love rom-coms because they generally hit what real people are thinking. So what they do is they kind of throw in how men and women think about each other, but in a ha-ha kind of way.

Right?

that probably couldn't be made today. Like Tropic Thunder. You know, with Robert Downey Jr. doing blackface, even though he isn't, he's playing a black guy so he had surgery, you know, cause he's a method actor. But most of the humor in there probably also couldn't. White chicks, you probably couldn't do white chicks.

Mm-hmm.

Right.

That was funny too though.

Yeah, great film, but it's two African American guys pretending to be white people, which I guess in theory would be some kind of cultural appropriation. I guess. I don't know. I think and and another one just just from the 2000s would be like the hangover.

Damn Gen Xer.

That was hilarious.

Great film and vile. It's a vile movie. The shit that those three guys do in all of the movies, mostly the second one, when they go to Thailand and there's like tons of transvestites and tons of dick jokes and a bunch of other stuff, they couldn't, people would lose their fucking mind today. know, they, you know, they would have their, but here's the thing, think, Tina, for us, all those movies hold up.

Mm-hmm.

now Our young years there is a lot of movies that borderline probably couldn't be made like revenge of the nerds. There's some There's some rapey stuff in there and like porkies You know what I mean Well, because like but like here's the thing and I hate to say it but like people were peeping toms like

Porkies? Yeah, we both said it at the same time.

That was a, I'm sure a thing, mostly like in the time period, that was supposed to be in like the 50s, right? I think it was like the 50s is when it was supposed to be. So yeah, was a bunch of pent up children that were just wanting to see naked girls. So they would do whatever they could to get there.

Was it?

Okay.

Mm-hmm.

What about like the Whoopie Boys? Do you remember that one? you got to watch that one. It's offensive. And what about Eddie Murphy Raw? Everything about that was

the whoopie boys.

You, you, there's no way. Delirious and raw. Both of Eddie Murphy's stand-up specials from the 80s, they are, they're amazingly funny. Amazingly funny, but like, there's a lot of stuff in that that I'm sure modern people.

Yeah.

Totally wrong.

yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Now here's the funny thing, my kid finds all that shit funny as hell. Yeah, but I also think that Gen Z are more like Gen X. They're not Millennials. Millennials are...

Well, you raised him.

are and again, I'm I don't mean to offend anyone who's a millennial, but they're they're pretty weak and they're they're like rice paper. You know what I mean? Like you got to be really delicate with them and you can't just wrap shit up. I think Jen Z. Jen Z is like a homemade tortilla like they'll they you can wrap up wet meat in them and they'll take it like.

Rob.

So like my son finds shit that's incredibly offensive. Funny. Yeah, it's matter of fact, he shows me stuff and I go, oh, wow. He goes, yeah, it's funny, right? I was like, oh shit. So yeah, I think you're right there. I just think that there's a lot of things like that.

Nice.

My my argument to all these people is watch it now and if you're offended that's your fault Because

Mm-hmm. Well, if you're offended, grow a pair. Like, seriously. And I know that's even not good to say anymore, grow a pair, but seriously.

Yeah,

Yeah, well because who has a pair I guess that's No, but you know the society would argue that You know who has a pair of nuts. Yeah, who knows? Yeah, so for me it's like I think I always tell people look if you're offended cool don't watch it Don't listen to it don't

don't have the

Who's carrying him today?

that easy.

And that goes for everything. If you're somebody who does not like hip hop, mostly modern shitty hip hop, don't listen to it because it's probably garbage. I don't rag on it. I just go, yeah, I don't like it. I think it's crap and I move on. But I would never tell somebody like, you know, we need to stop this stuff because it's so bad. It's like, no, it's just not for me.

Mm-hmm.

Well, we come from the era where they had to put explicit lyrics, stickers on our CDs. Like that, that happened in our time. So being offended was not the popular thing to be back then. The popular thing to be was to shut up and deal with it and, and enjoy it, you know, just let it roll off your back.

Yeah, I mean, look at stand up. And this is pre-2000s, but like shock humor was big, like Andrew Dice Clay. You know, South Park.

Henry Dice Clay, that's funny. Yeah, South Park too, and that's still rude as hell.

South Park. Yeah, there there's stuff on South Park that even I and again, I don't I don't get offended by it, but I go, wow, like they they went there.

Yeah.

But you wouldn't have said wow back in high school. You wouldn't have said wow in your 20s or 30s. It's because the cultures change so much that you even think to say, there you go.

Right, I'm more shocked that it's on TV, not that it's shocking. I think that's more than anything, right? You know, look, Edgy Humor was... Edgy Humor is probably some of the best movies, television, and comedy specials the planet has ever seen. You know, like, whether you like his humor or not, you you look at Mel Brooks, you look at like...

right?

Mm-hmm.

You know, young Frankenstein, Robin Hood, Men in Tights. There's a lot of that humor he gets away with because he's Jewish and he rags on Jews in it. So have you ever seen Blazing Saddles? Okay, Blazing Saddles is Mel Brooks movie. It says the N word all the time.

Okay.

Yes.

Mm-hmm.

But he rags on Jews and he has Hitler in it who is borderline queer. So he makes fun of everyone. I think if you make fun of everybody, you're less likely, but like Blazing Saddles today, are you kidding? It wouldn't make it, you couldn't take the script to a studio today. They'd be like, are you kidding me? I'm sure I don't watch it on TV because I don't like it being cut out so much.

Right? Everybody.

Thank

But I guarantee you there's probably a stamp in front of Blazing Saddles that says, you know, this was made in the 1970s when things were different. there has to be like a prologue to how offended you're gonna be. There's gotta be. Here's something I think has really changed and.

Right, absolutely.

is the workplace environment. What you could get away with when I started working in the early 90s and now is, where I work, we get away with a lot because it's 100 % male right now. It's not going to be at some point, but right now it's 100 % male. it's...

Mmm.

Nice.

It's dark. It's ugly. It's the humor is bottom of the barrel. Dick humor. There's a lot of it. So it's great. But like you couldn't you couldn't do sexual jokes in an office place now. Of any of any kind. You say one thing that's somewhat sexual.

No, not of any kind.

You'll be in HR in a second getting written up. I guarantee it or fired. Because now people are pussies. Sorry, it's the truth. You get these people that... Okay, like...

Yeah, absolutely.

It is.

But you know in the old days if you were offended you just told somebody like hey man don't do that shit no more and they went I'm sorry we were just we were just you know hacking cool and it would go and then you wouldn't say it anymore. Now they run off and tell on you. You know what mean they're they get their panties in a wad and don't know what to do.

Yeah, we'd be done.

Everything you say right now is being it's canceled. It would be canceled

Well, yeah, like here's another one for work. Like, boss is yelling at people.

Yeah?

I haven't seen that in quite a while. I will tell you about six years ago at the company that I work for now.

My boss and another employee were in an office like right across from me about 40 feet screaming at each other at the top of their lungs So much that it was kind of funny because there was a window like a big ass window You could see right in there. They were screaming at each other and it was It was bitching. I was like wow. Look at this shit go Yeah, what about You know both your mom smoked and so did my mom. Do you remember smoking and

You

That's funny.

smoked in the house, the car, in the restaurants. Yeah, my aunt owned hair salons and she smoked the whole time she was in there. I couldn't imagine.

in restaurants, restaurants and bars.

Yeah, I mean such a different time period.

So, okay, so my mom had a Volkswagen and she would just barely crack the window, the little triangle window in the front. And I'd be like, mom, can you roll down the window? And she'd be like, it's cold. I'm like, you're smoking a cigarette. I can't breathe. Because my brother and I at the time had really bad allergies when we were growing up. They've gotten better since we've gotten older, but they were horrible. And she'd be like, she would barely do it again, like barely open it. So it's like.

I do.

Yeah.

Yeah.

maybe another eighth of an inch is open and I'd be like, my God, I can't breathe. So she would ask me, she would ask me, go with me, and I'm like, no, no, you smoke in the car, I can't do it. She used to piss her off, but she smoked in the car all the time.

man, the triangle window.

I had to threaten my mother. So when I would go visit my mom on the weekends, because I lived with my dad, I would go up. My mom lived in Lancaster. We lived in the San Fernando Valley. So was about an hour drive home.

Mm-hmm.

And she would smoke in the car. And it got to the point where I was like, look, mom, smoke whatever you can while you're at home and right before we leave, like you can make it an hour, you'll be okay. But she couldn't. I threatened my mom, because my dad worked for Caltrans, that I was going to get a big old huge respirator and wear it in a car.

because my dad could get like industrial respirators that were meant to like deal with chemicals on the side of the freeway. And she was like, you wouldn't. I go, mom, I'll have dad pick one up and I will wear that.

Right.

People that smoke versus people that don't smoke, they don't understand how hard it is to breathe when you're being hotboxed in a damn car. You know, and it's not, you know, like even now, like weed, weed dissipates. Marijuana, does not. It stays, it lingers, doesn't, it doesn't, it's just horrible.

Yes.

Exactly.

It gets into the paint. gets into the, if every fabric you can, it's, yeah, it's rough. I think that that's a dying thing, at least tobacco. Yeah, it'll die with our generation. I don't think millennials smoke much.

And in a car, yeah.

everything it's in your hair

So,

Well now it's all vape.

Yeah.

I don't know, they're all vapin'.

No, no, they vape though, but that's a different, like it doesn't stick to stuff. It's not like your house doesn't smell like cigarettes, like that kind of thing. What about when we grew up, we grew up in like the, like the toughen up, like anytime that something was bad, we got the, just toughen up, you'll be fine. Like where I don't think you can say that to anyone today.

Right.

true.

Yeah.

Because we live in a therapy, you know, a therapy culture. Like my dad, you know, no, without using the joke that we all know is like, when I got hurt, you know, rub some dirt on it. Like that shit was real. my dad, I remember I got hurt. I scraped my knee. I mean, when I mean scraped, I mean it was deep. To the point where my dad had to take tweezers and pull the rocks out of it. Okay.

Yeah.

Yep.

Oi!

but it wasn't, but it was still a scrape. Like there was nothing to close. You know what I mean? It was just a deep, yeah, I got road rash really bad. And I remember him pulling the little rocks out and he had like a little light on and he's like, doop, doop, doop, pulling it out. He literally wiped it down, some, put some Bactene on it and then wiped it with a paper towel.

Right. Just got road rash.

Yeah. You're gonna be fine.

You know, if it for anyone who got a tattoo, think about how it feels after, know, like dry rubbing a tattoo. That's what my dad did to my knee and just like, and then didn't it was so big, he couldn't put a bandaid on it. He was just like, okay, well, be careful. So, and look, there's something to that today that I think we have gained from.

Yeah.

deal with.

Us. We take things... It takes a lot to get Gen Xers down. like, I work hurt all the time. Or, you know, if I gotta... If my knee is bugging from whatever, I don't not go to work over it.

Yep.

Mostly, mean, and I mean that something that I can, I know I can work through, but I'll be at work like popping Tylenol and working. Cause we come from a different era of not calling in sick all the time. The new generation, shit.

The only time I ever caught in sick was to go do something fun.

Right, right. We called in sick to ditch work. To go to, yeah. Yeah, Disneyland. Ah, dude, I, you how many times, you know how many times in my 20s and 30s I took a Wednesday off and called in sick and went to Disneyland. Came back the next day, fucking tan is all shit. They're like, I was like, oh, hey, I wasn't feeling good, so I was out in the back on my patio, like, trying to get some sun, because vitamin D is good for you.

Yeah, ditch whatever school work, whatever it was.

Right?

laying in the sun. Yeah, that's funny.

All sore as shit because I was in the sun for, you know, 14 hours walking all over the place. Just, it was a different time for sure. So what about things in the past where I'll give you an example for like celebrities, right? Celebrities have always been a thing.

completely.

but now I think they're less. Criticized because like before, like you would be constantly, they'd constantly be talked about their weight or pregnancy or there'd be tons of body shaming questions, that kind of thing. and the paparazzi culture was bananas. Like they would follow them everywhere. Like you.

Right.

Which, look, it comes with the territory, like I get it, but I think there's gotta be some kind of, you know, they're still human. It's a catch-22, right? These people are on TV, they're popular.

and they're put on a pedestal and then people want to see pictures of them so they chase them all over the place. But some people, I remember years ago, of my former employees, he worked at an alarm company and they had the alarm for Brad Pitt and Jennifer Aniston when they were together.

For sure.

Mm.

And they were he was talking to Brad Pitt and he was like, hey, God, you got the greatest life in the world. You got a beautiful wife. You know, you got a big house and blah, blah, And literally, Brad Pitt looked at my friend Scott. Who now is dead, but he looked at him and he goes, yeah, I can't complain about all that stuff, but I can't go to Home Depot and pick up some flowers. And.

For a second, my friend was like, and he goes, I have to send an assistant with a list of shit to pick up. I just want a garden. I'd like to go down, pick up some flowers at the Home Depot because if I pull my car out, they're going to chase me to Home Depot and take pictures of me the whole time. And I was like, yikes. And he goes, it's great, except I'm not regular. And I was like, that's.

Mm-hmm.

So it is a double edged sword, but I think now like you get canceled for all kinds of shit. Like if you lean a certain way in Hollywood and you say it, you get blackballed.

Well, I think that's just the world in general right now. It's just like that. You know, and there's no room for anybody to hear any other side of the story. It's either my way or the highway. And I'm like, I don't even think like you do. So what do I say to that? You know?

You know what's like even crazier think like we are mean you are pre social media right social media has really only been around since I think like 2005 well 2005 the Internet's been around that long but like real social media like my space.

Mm-hmm.

94, 95?

Or like, well I thought that was like way earlier though because there used to be chat rooms and stuff like that.

Was it? Let's see. Yes, but I think chat rooms isn't something that, let's see when, so MySpace launched in 2003. Okay, so, but I think that for chat rooms with the exception of maybe someone screenshotting it and no one really did it then, there was no evidence where social media,

Okay.

Right.

People will screen grab tweets and posts and all this shit. Now, they'll get you on something that you did 10 years ago when you were a different person and you made a funny joke about something. So, you know, now everything lives forever. And...

Mm-hmm.

I mean, most of us aren't the same people five years ago. You're gonna, if you would look at my past, like not online, but my past in general, I would be canceled for something. And I might get canceled for something I said three days ago. I mean, I say, yeah.

I agree with that.

I know I would. I say inappropriate shit all the time and that's just the way it goes.

Yeah, right. Yeah, I still use the word retard and people get all up in arms over it I go, I go, but it's it's different. Like they're like, it's not. It's like, OK, but it is because how we use that in the 80s is not the same as what we use it now. Like I don't I use it as an insult, but not an it's more of an insult to the the

No, absolutely.

person that you're calling.

the retarded person actually, because if, know, my friend is probably dumber than they are. So it, and again, yeah, it's look, it's a different time period and you know, sure, I mean, I can understand, but I don't think anyone who uses a lot of these words means them the same way. Like,

That'll get you cancelled right there.

Right.

Like the word gay, you know, when we were younger, we'd go, man, that's gay. But it didn't mean like it was homosexual. It just means it was gay. And people...

Well, I think it, the connotations were there definitely, but I don't think we said it like that. Like to mean, to mean the same thing, to offend somebody on that level.

I mean, right, that's what I mean. Like, because I could be talking about something and if I said, man, that's kind of gay, I didn't mean that like it was femi or, you know, homosexual. could say that color blue is gay. And it was just used in that way. It was never meant to be like that. I mean, I guess.

Mm-hmm.

I'm sure that now today I would get canceled. I may get canceled over this. I just never saw it that way. But, know, who knows? You know what I mean? Like, it's kind of like, it's kind of like parenting. You know, parenting has changed immensely.

No, we won't.

I'm sure. Yeah, they just in the time that we've since we've had kids around to now it's changed.

Right because like

We had it the greatest. We roamed around wherever the hell we wanted. There were no phones, so there was no proof. No proof, zero. There was no tracking apps. Parents didn't know where you're at. And look, don't get me wrong, some of these things are great. I think if you have a young child that has a phone in their backpack and you can track them, yes.

We did no phones.

Thank God.

That's No Life 360.

Are they though?

to a degree at a certain

I don't know, I know of couples who are tracking each other like crazy and I'm like, I would hate for somebody to know every little place I went so that it's a discussion later. Fuck that.

Yeah

Yeah, I mean, I think that if you're checking all the time, you're in a that's a bigger problem. But, know, what about like, look at what we got to do? Like what would get you super canceled today riding in the back of a truck? Every single one of us, I me. So there was my buddy had a truck, he had a pickup truck. That had no cab on it, so.

Yeah.

yeah. And we all did that. All did that.

It was him and another dude in the front seat because he had a stick and there was three of us lying in the back driving to Zuma from the valley on the 101. Looking back on it, it's probably stupid, but you know, here we are going and I think we went down. What's that windy ass road right there? Canaan.

You

Mm-hmm.

So we took Canaan down. So we're on some windy ass road with no seat belts on in the back of a truck.

That sounds amazing actually. Right? We used to do stuff like that.

But it was, but it was awesome. We all pulled up. We all had towels that we were, you know, sitting in the back because the truck was 480 degrees. Right. Cause he didn't have a liner because he couldn't afford a liner then. So we, you know, we did all these things. So like, look, we drank from the hose and we're fine. Could you imagine telling a young kid now grab the hose and turn it on and we're going to drink out of it?

Right? No.

Yeah, because I would tell them all kinds of stuff that I probably shouldn't just because I think that kids need to learn how to live and not to be afraid of everything like they are today. yeah, I could see it, but then I could see getting into a lot of trouble for saying it also.

Yeah, it would be funny as hell though. Like I think that just watching their face would be absolutely amazing. Because they would be like, you want me to what? Is it a bottle of water? No, no, no, grab the hose. I'm thirsty. And turn it on high, and don't drink it right away because that first couple sips more are gonna be like lava.

It's hot.

So you'd, but you know, you'd sit there and wait, right? And then of course, like the, mean, I don't know about you girls, but dudes were horrible, right? So you'd go and you'd go to hand it to somebody, stick your finger, your thumb over the top and spray the shit out of them before they'd get a drink out of it. You know, like we were just horrible to each other and in the best way possible, you know, yeah. We had it crazy, but like, could you imagine?

thought it was fun.

I think now I'm sure it happens in smaller towns, but look, our parents said don't come home until the streetlights are on. Not you have to be home by then. It's don't come home because they wanted to have their own time with their friends and have a drink and and like be adults. So just it's super crazy, you know?

Hehehe.

That's true.

You know what? I don't think that anybody now could live without having phones because when I remember I had a flat tire, one of my first flat tires of my car when I was a teenager on the freeway and I had to go to one of those call boxes and have them. They wouldn't call my dad either. It was like three thirty in the morning. I had been to a late night party that my parents knew I was at. I was with

with a guy that they always trusted and were still friends with today. And my mom said, go have a good time and, you know, be home when it's over. And on the way home, I got a flat tire and they wouldn't let me call my dad. had to wait. It was in a horrible area. I was coming back from Sylmar and I was on the freeway and nobody was on the freeway because people actually slept back then, which is another weird thing. And

Right, in those days, yeah, right?

And they wouldn't let me call my dad so I drove the damn car home on a flat tire because I wasn't going to sit there anymore. It was like very uncomfortable being there. I was nervous and I rode it home and I parked the car and I told my mom we're getting me a bus pass today because I'm not driving this F in car ever again. That was like the last straw on what it could do to try to kill me. And I ended up getting a new car that day because she knew I meant it.

Sure.

But those stupid call boxes like those those things came and they should have went right away But people had them for a long time. So in that respect No, not not around here anyway, but That's the only time I would say that that having a cell phone is way better

Yeah, today.

They don't exist, right?

Yeah.

100 % yeah. Let's see do freeway. All boxes.

What else would have been cancelled? I know there's so many things.

Well, here's kind of something that I think now would not get to cancel, but I think if you did it, would people would look at you funny is like fashion. Right, how like, you know, the the late 90s and early 2000s, there was like low rise jeans and Ed Hardy's shirts. Where now, if you tried to wear anything like that, I think they would.

Mm-hmm.

You know, they wouldn't cancel you, but boy, you'd wish you were. You know what I mean? Yeah. I just think that like it's not like a cancelable thing, but I just think that there was such a culture then of like different things or like they won't cancel you, but I think it's looked down upon like the extreme tanning culture. Like we the 80s was like mostly like.

Why? Why though? I don't not see in the...

I had a great tan.

When we were in high school, my God, every girl had a tan. All of them, except for, yeah, except for gingers. Poor gingers. They just, the poor ready heads, boy, they were always white. But besides the gingers, everyone had a fucking tan. And I, and look, we grew up in California, so I think that there is a culture behind that as well. But I think that, that,

Yep. And nails.

Yeah.

couldn't do it.

Yeah.

you know, that was such a big deal. I remember when like being ultra ultra skinny was a big deal. And then and then that kind of phased out to where like, people, know, JLo, Kim Kardashian, the thick, you know, thick girls kind of came in. Where now I think it's like there's I think with those Zempig things are changing again. Like some of these girls look like walking death.

yeah.

Hmm.

Yeah.

It's scary. who's the girl, the singer she was in Wicked?

Ariana Grande.

my god, if you see what she looks like these days, she's a skeleton. my goodness, it's sad, scary. yeah, here's something that I think that you don't watch it, but I grew up, so I'm old or we're older.

Really?

You're old, I'm not old.

And I did pro wrestling and there's been different eras of pro wrestling like anything. Or like the golden era, which is like 1984 to like 89, 90. It's kind of like the golden era where it was still like kid friendly. But there was an era in the late 90s and then the 2000s that it was like

Mm-hmm.

incredibly everything was TV 14 girls were having mud wrestling matches wrestling in their bra and panties like yeah they were saying lots of sexual innuendos it was just a different time and it's funny because that's my favorite time of wrestling it was just it was it they were savage and it was

If that.

It was more adult for the first time because since I grew up in that very kid era that it was nice to see something change with me. Maybe that's the best way of putting it. And then, and then that era ran its course and then it kind of went back to being not super kid friendly, but definitely not mature anymore. And I think that

Yeah.

Okay.

With a lot of things that we've been talking about maybe that's just kind of the big theme, right? We come from eras that were extreme and funny and I guess weren't afraid to talk about sex even though it was not

Well, even listen to our music like our music was all about sex or cheating or or You know getting even like I was thinking about that. I'm like this generation is the generation where everybody's getting divorced That's our generation. Well, why listen to the music everything is about cheating or or There's so many songs, but they're all about cheating basically or getting with the other the the person There's so many

Mm-hmm. Well, the...

Here's kind of the funny thing that a lot of people don't realize. All these really romantic movies that...

most people will talk about. The Notebook, The Choice, Titanic. There's a lot of these movies. All the protagonists are, women are cheaters. They're in a bad relationship, but they don't get out of it before they cheat. And those are the movies that are known for being the ones that we go, but it's so romantic. But is it? It's...

Yeah.

That's true.

But a lot of things were presented as romantic. What about that song, Every Step You Take from, this is a police. It's so wrong. It's so wrong in so many ways and yet I remember a girl that I went to school with saying, I want somebody that wants me like that. And I was like, that's a bit harsh. don't, yeah, I don't know about you, but I don't want to be under that kind of pressure.

the police.

Yeah.

You're like, no, you don't.

Well, it's funny too because I'm a big comic book fan and for the longest time...

All the girls in those books have big boobs too. Huge. Are they still like that?

yeah, it's great. They're made for... I don't know because I really don't read comic books anymore. Probably not because it's got very liberal and very... woman power. Yeah. But here's the funny thing about comic books of like that generation is... Yes, they were full of...

No wonder you don't watch them or get them anymore.

you know, big breasted women, but like all the dudes were muscular, like they were perfect human beings. But one of the biggest things of like, I would say, I want to say it was the 90s, I'd have to look it up for sure, but Harley Quinn is a DC Comics character who falls in love with the Joker who is, if you know comic books, is a psychopath.

Mm-hmm.

like legitimately and she was like a shrink in the hospital that he was in. She falls in love with him and a lot of people kind of like what you're talking about was like, I wish I had a love like Harley and the Joker because she's just enthralled with him. Like, but he's super abusive to her. And I remember hearing like all these people that were like, and it's like.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

You know, I understand where they're coming from when they say something like that, because yeah, like it is, you want somebody who's so close and like wants them that bad, but like that, that is the most abusive, you know, relationship. here's the funny thing. They, they did another movie.

Yeah.

Definitely is.

Since then, where Harley is kind of like on her own and and like hates the Joker blah blah blah wants to kill him. Um and yeah they did it in the book for quite a while as well. Here's the problem with that. It doesn't sell. Like they actually made her a lesbian for a while or bisexual. Yeah there's look they have to keep coming up with something because books need to sell.

she hates him?

What?

But yeah, I find it, you know, I think those are the type of things too. Like you can't say things like, you know, that's an abusive relationship, but it was great because you know, people would, the Me Too movement thing I think also.

You know, ruined a lot of things. I think it's ruining dating too, because I think today, I think men are just so gun shy about, they say you say one wrong thing and people are like, you know, he's a red flag and don't date him and they'll fucking put there's I've never seen it because I don't go that deep. But on Facebook, there used to be groups about, you know, are you dating my boyfriend? And it was like they would post

shit.

a picture and all these other people would be like, yeah, I'm dating him right now. And the other person would be like, so am I and like, all this crazy shit, like just insane stuff. so I think men and women now are so gun shy over being put on social media that we're

I don't know, we're at a very trying time because now you say one wrong thing and, you know, they'll try to ruin your job. They'll call your employer. You know, it's like, no, remember when you could have an opinion.

Absolutely.

That was so long ago though. So long.

Right.

But it doesn't seem like that long ago. And I mean, I know it really has been. I look at my son and his generation, at least the people he hangs out with, are very, very Gen X-y. Now here's the only problem, girls aren't.

It has been.

I saw some statistics that was very interesting. They said his generation, like 28 and younger to like 19, 18, 17, men are leaning conservative and women are leaning liberal.

Well yeah, because men are treated so differently than they were when we were growing up. Like, I don't need you, we don't need a man, we can make babies without you, like all that shit that they're pouring out now that make men like not want to be close to a woman at all, it has has come out in so many crazy ways. It's not even, we weren't like that.

No, not at all.

Well, we had dads though too and we respected men. We come from that generation, so maybe that's part of it.

Well, yeah, and I also think that just women are very man-hating now. It's just a weird time. But I did find something that was very interesting for my son's generation and the men of youth. If you're a conservative woman in your 20s, you are going to have the pick of the litter of men.

because they're all leaning conservatively. Middle conservative. So they're basically middle and leaning right, where women are either full blown liberals or progressive nutcases, like on the very, very far left. So if you're a conservative woman in this country, you're probably going to be okay, because you're going to have the pick of the litter of men.

Right.

So it's an odd thing where, they said that like 23 % of women won't date a man over his political beliefs.

Wait, what?

Yeah. So if you got, if you. Nah, I didn't ask.

We never cared. Did you ever care about never? No, it was not something that we gave a shit about.

Yeah. I mean, even religion. I've dated girls that were very, very religious when I wasn't at all.

Yeah, when you were an atheist.

Yeah, and because I look at morality, right, you can not believe in God and still have morals. And you can be a Republican or conservative and have empathy towards people where they don't think you can.

Mm-hmm.

For sure.

Right?

It's driving this country apart and it's at every age now. Even women and men of our age that are trying to date are so stout on their political beliefs that they just won't date each other. Pretty scary. But that can get you canceled as well. Don't say shit about politics at work. Like it's a big thing at my work. Like they've they talk about it in every one of those videos that I have to watch.

Yeah, it is scary.

because it's a corporation and they're big about it. Do not talk about this, do not talk about that, like all kinds of stuff. it would be, it's so easy to get canceled today if you have a Gen X brain because we find things humorous that a lot of people don't.

Yeah.

I'm glad that we're like one of the last generations that actually had a sense of humor and could laugh at anything good or bad and we didn't have to worry about a perfect world or a perfect life or acting perfectly. We could we could screw up look at each other start laughing and then that was the end of it. I miss those days. I do.

Yeah, I mean, could you imagine today, and again, this is a long time ago, so it's, you know, sorry if I offend anybody, but, you know, we were around when the Challenger blew up. And I remember days later, they were making jokes about it.

Yeah, I was in class watching it.

Like days, it didn't take long. They were like, NASA stands for need another seven astronauts. Like, yeah, so like, we just see things differently. And again, you know, sometimes you have to make jokes so the real bullshit doesn't hurt you.

Yeah.

I remember that.

Well, the energy just gets too intense sometimes and you need to poke fun of what is right in front of you. You just do.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we've talked about like you and your, you and your brother at your mom's funeral is one of the funniest stories I've ever heard. Like, it's just amazing.

But that was, you know, the thing with that is that was my mom's sense of humor. Like it was, so it was like, what would you expect? What would anybody expect? Or I mean, when we got her ashes and they were sitting on the kitchen table and I told my cousin out of nowhere, not even close to

Correct.

to because she was there, I said, hey, you need to put some lotion on your elbows. They're ashy. And before he could think about what he just was going to say, he said, your mom's ashy. And I remember I remember looking on the on the kitchen table. Everybody went completely silent. There was probably about seven or eight people there. And for a hot second, I thought about that. And then I started laughing. I couldn't stop laughing. I thought that was hilarious.

And he said later, I thought you were going to get mad. And I'm like, how can I get mad? That was her sense of humor.

Yeah, and it's shit's funny. I mean...

It is funny. It was hilarious. I mean, I still tell the story and that was my mom's going to be gone 15 years this July. And that's still a joke I always tell because you know what? If you don't laugh at the at the bad stuff and and just find your way to to being OK with it, you're going to you're going to be in counseling forever. And who the hell wants that?

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Yeah, I mean like the first year my my mom passed away she passed away in February. So by the time her birthday Mother's Day came I was still kind of very

just kind of Like yeah, I mean I was, it didn't hit me yet. But it hit me the second year coming up to her birthday and Mother's Day. But I remember being at work and everyone was making plans for the Mother's Day. And that's when I told you I said, don't have to worry about it, she's dead. And it got really quiet and I was like, it's funny. Like my mom is dead. I.

Raw.

I can't change that part and I go she would have laughed. That's a funny joke. You know, like.

Yeah. Well, you need to find the humor, whether it be dark or just, yeah, just light, just plain whatever. If you don't find a way to live in this reality and to enjoy it and to even make fun of it at times, like, why are you here? You know, you have to, you have to find a way to get through it.

Or light. Or just... Just funny shit. Yeah.

It.

This is what I tell people. It's like, there's certain topics that are just funny. Like poop. Poop jokes are funny. Poop in general is funny. Dick jokes are funny. They're just funny. Because when you hear something, your mind imagines something.

For sure.

It's like, you know, whatever. Someone's shit in their pants. Go online and type in man poops pants. It's probably funny.

Well, I told you that story of me getting sick at the restaurant. I mean, I won't talk about it on here, but I was dying telling you and you were like, my God, at the same time laughing too because why not?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, because it's kind of funny. Yeah. And look, at the end of the day, we're always going to look back on life. And the things that we find funny, some people today won't. And that's just reality. And long after we're dead, someone, our family, our kids, our best friends, they're going to tell a story.

to someone and they're gonna find it to be the most offensive thing ever. And the person telling the story is gonna giggle their fucking ass off. And at the end of the day, as long as somebody's laughing, I think we're okay.

Mm-hmm.

There you go.

So any any last words on on getting cancelled these days?

Who cares? Cancel me, I don't give a shit, but I am still gonna make fun of whatever it is that you're gonna cancel me for, because that's just who I am.

Right?

Right, me too. I would say, look, you know, you need to have a stiff upper lip. know, it's okay if you're offended, be offended, but you don't get to tell me that. Yeah.

I'm so tired of hearing I'm offended. I wanna bitch slap everybody that says they're offended. Like truly I'm just like, look, me give you a real reason to be offended.

Like I said at the end, be offended. It's your right to, but it's also my right to find that that shit's funny as fuck.

Yeah.

and make fun of you for being a puss.

Yeah, yeah, it's gonna happen, you know? Be glad it's not the like 40s and 50s where they just kept beating you up every day.

You

that.

You know what mean? That's why our parents are come from a rougher spot. didn't, you know, we got bullied, but they got their ass beat every day on the way to school. It's just a different time. Right. There you go. That's funny. All right. Well, that's it for this week. Thank you for listening to the show. We are doing very well.

Yeah, well my mom was the one doing it so I can't even say that, you know. Talk about a bully, my gosh.

Yes.

crazy crazy things. I go on and check our analytics here every day or so and it's wild. Like today, like generally we have the United States obviously most of our listeners are here in the United States. Like today, Spain, Vietnam, Brazil, Germany, India, Iraq, and the Netherlands. Portugal, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and the United Kingdom.

Mm-hmm.

well.

All today. So look, we appreciate everyone who listens. Keep listening, keep sharing, because obviously people are sharing the show and new people are listening. We appreciate it. You can check us out on the social media. You can listen to this podcast on every platform possible. It's everywhere now. They just keep adding us to other stuff. Pretty awesome.

Now I get reminders that it's come out and I didn't even set it up for that. So I don't know how the hell that's coming around, but...

Yeah, it's it could be that I've sent you a bunch of stuff. So it's the algorithms going, hey, don't forget you got to listen today. Right. It's on again. So there you go. It's an opinion show. Don't get it twisted. Keep coming back every Wednesday. I'm Rob. That's Tina. And we will see you in a week.

Hey, hey, it's on again.

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See ya.