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What really happened in Deadwood when Wild Bill Hickok was killed, and why is his death tied to a place that wasn’t even U.S. state territory?
This episode revisits the Black Hills gold-rush boomtown of Deadwood and Hickok’s final days after traveling from Fort Laramie with Charlie Utter’s wagon train, joined by Calamity Jane.
It explains Deadwood’s explosive growth and Hickok’s poker game at Saloon 10 where Jack McCall—shot him on August 2, 1876.
Join us...and learn about this giant of American history.
00:00 Classic Episode Return
01:16 Visiting Deadwood Today
03:09 Gold Rush Origins
05:14 Boomtown Vice Life
07:14 Hickok Backstory
09:10 Calamity Jane Connection
12:55 Dead Man Walking
14:28 Saloon 10 Shooting
17:46 Miners Jury Trial
20:15 Federal Retrial Hanging
21:59 Graves and Brothel Lore
25:02 Lakota Land Dispute
26:52 Deadwood Fire Tourism
28:16 Wrap Up and Next Episodes
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Welcome to Talk With History.
Speaker:Whether you've been traveling with us since day one or you're brand
Speaker:new to this road trip, we're opening up the archives today to share one
Speaker:of our absolute favorite episodes.
Speaker:A couple years ago, we took a deep dive into the legendary Black Hills of South
Speaker:Dakota to explore the wild, lawless history of Deadwood and the dramatic life
Speaker:and sudden death of Wild Bill Hickok.
Speaker:This episode quickly became a huge fan favorite, and with so many
Speaker:new listeners joining us recently, we knew it was time to bring this
Speaker:classic back to the top of the feed.
Speaker:So sit back, set your cruise control,
Speaker:and let's head out to Deadwood.
Speaker:Now, Wild Bill Hickok was a legendary figure of the American Wild West,
Speaker:renowned for his exceptional shooting skills and reputation as a gunslinger.
Speaker:He served as a lawman, marshal, and scout during the Civil War, and
Speaker:afterward in various frontier towns.
Speaker:Despite his law enforcement roles, he did have some bad habits and made some enemies
Speaker:that brought him to his now famous demise.
Speaker:So Jenn, let's talk about this famous figure of the Wild West
Speaker:and where we were this summer.
Speaker:Yeah, so we went to Deadwood, South Dakota.
Speaker:We did.
Speaker:It was, h- honestly, it was kind of one of the few places I got a little more
Speaker:excited to, to go see, just because of the reputation of Deadwood, the show,
Speaker:and just the whole Wild West thing.
Speaker:Sure, and like-
Speaker:The recreation of the picture of Main Street Deadwood is the exact historic Main
Speaker:Street you walk down in Deadwood today.
Speaker:So if you watch the show or anything like that, like you're, you're walking
Speaker:through history of what made this town, what made this town so quickly
Speaker:and even what it's known for today.
Speaker:Yeah, and even I've noticed in the video, right, it's been out for a
Speaker:few days now, I, I've noticed the watch time is a little bit longer.
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:And so YouTube kind of gives us these good kind of feedback metrics
Speaker:because, uh, you know, I found some cool music that was actually very,
Speaker:fits very well with the story.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:This kind of dead man walking song.
Speaker:But there's lots of pictures of Deadwood.
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:And you describe it very well, even in the video when we're walking down this paved
Speaker:modern-day street, you know, with some throwback kind of touristy stuff, but then
Speaker:showing the old pictures of these muddy-
Speaker:Muddy
Speaker:it's just- Just dirt … dirty-
Speaker:Road, and it's not even a road, I would just say a clearing, where they have
Speaker:built up these makeshift wooden buildings?
Speaker:I wouldn't even use built, building.
Speaker:This is like a d- it's like a, these lean tos that they have made and called them
Speaker:saloons and called them brothels and-
Speaker:Well, and, and you can picture it, right?
Speaker:'Cause you talk about it in the video why they named it Deadwood.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:The, a gulch of dead trees were found there, and it is a little valley,
Speaker:'cause it is pretty hilly around there, and you're in the Black Hills,
Speaker:so, uh, here's a, a, a valley area, and they found these gulch of dead
Speaker:trees, so they called it Deadwood.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And so remind me the era that everything kind of started coming together out there.
Speaker:So you have to remember, this does not, this is, uh, American Indian territory.
Speaker:Yeah, that's right.
Speaker:It's not a state.
Speaker:It is not a state, and this is gonna come, come problem for Hickok's
Speaker:murder, but this land belongs to the Lakota, and it's belonged to them since
Speaker:the Treaty of Fort Laramie of 1868.
Speaker:So you can think almost, um- 10 years it's been their land.
Speaker:Oh, wow.
Speaker:And what happens is George Armstrong Custer comes through
Speaker:there in 1874, so about six years.
Speaker:He's out there enforcing these treaties, and this is what we get
Speaker:into Big Horn, which we, we'll talk about on another episode.
Speaker:He's enforcing these, uh, treaties where the American Indians have adhered
Speaker:to staying on certain areas, hence reservations, and he's riding through
Speaker:here when gold is discovered, 1874, 1875.
Speaker:And so it becomes this big boom where people wanna go make their fortunes.
Speaker:Yeah, the word gets out.
Speaker:The word gets out, and so they can't stop this influx of people,
Speaker:even though they should be.
Speaker:George Armstrong Custer should be stopping these people 'cause it's not, uh, their
Speaker:land, and they shouldn't be settling it.
Speaker:It belongs to the Lakota.
Speaker:But he doesn't 'cause he's part of it.
Speaker:He also wants the gold and-
Speaker:Of course
Speaker:… uh, and so he allows these people to come in, and he, the military kind of, like,
Speaker:turns a blind eye to it, and they start to have these little makeshift buildings
Speaker:that pop up to service all the fortune hunters, miners that come into the area.
Speaker:So this is about 1876, 5,000 people.
Speaker:1877, 12,000 people.
Speaker:1878, 25,000 people.
Speaker:See,
Speaker:that kinda surprised me.
Speaker:Even when I went back and I was making the video, like that is, especially back
Speaker:then- Mm-hmm … that is a drastic growth.
Speaker:Drastic, right?
Speaker:And so it, it's incomprehensible how they could even govern it to begin with.
Speaker:So it becomes a very lawless area, as you can imagine, because you get all these
Speaker:men coming in to make their fortune, and so you get a lot of gambling.
Speaker:You get a lot of alcoholism, and you get Hickok, who's called here-
Speaker:You get the brothels
Speaker:and all that stuff … I know.
Speaker:Of course, you get the brothels pop up.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And we'll talk a little bit about one of the, the most famous madams who's very
Speaker:close to Hickok, um, from the most, um, profitable brothel there in Deadwood.
Speaker:But yeah, so th- these are things that are gonna pop up for all these men.
Speaker:You're gonna get, um, you know, restaurants, saloons pop up.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Livery.
Speaker:So livery is where you put your horse.
Speaker:Butcher shops.
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:Uh, and makeshift tents and things like that, and brothels.
Speaker:So what happens is you get wagon trains who this is their business
Speaker:to, uh, you know, bring people, lead people from one area to another.
Speaker:They navigate you through, right?
Speaker:And if you watched 1883, this is a business of the time.
Speaker:Usually, you're paid before to take people through, and you,
Speaker:you will help with supplies.
Speaker:You know the area.
Speaker:You, you're, you do the safety, and then you're paid once you get
Speaker:there, and that's basically your pay.
Speaker:So Hickok takes a wagon train.
Speaker:From Fort Laramie, which is so interesting.
Speaker:This, the Treaty of Fort Laramie- Yeah
Speaker:that is adhering to these, uh, Indian lands.
Speaker:So this is the big fort of Wyoming, and this is still Wyoming Territory, and
Speaker:this is Dakota Territory, so they're not even states, which a- again,
Speaker:they're not governed in that way.
Speaker:So he, uh, Hickok takes a wagon train from Fort Laramie to Deadwood
Speaker:Now at this point in his life and career, he'd already been, he already has a
Speaker:reputation, if I remember correctly.
Speaker:He's been a marshal for a little while, so he already kind of
Speaker:has all this kind of notoriety.
Speaker:So yes, James Butler Hickok, he's born May 27th, 1837.
Speaker:Um, he's a folk hero of the Old West, m- but mo- mostly because he
Speaker:comes up beside Buffalo Bill Cody.
Speaker:So he comes up beside him, so his stories are told with him.
Speaker:Now, Cody can capitalize on those a little better than Hickok, but it doesn't
Speaker:mean Hickok's stories don't get told.
Speaker:So yes, uh, Hickok is, uh, he leaves his home at 18 years old, Illinois.
Speaker:He, uh, becomes a lawman in Kansas, Abilene, Kansas.
Speaker:That'll be important later.
Speaker:In Nebraska, he becomes a scout for the Union Army, just like
Speaker:Buffalo Cody, and he, um, and he, he meets, like, these kind of people
Speaker:who do shows and stuff like that.
Speaker:So he has met a woman who's part of the circus, and he marries her in
Speaker:Cheyenne, and they're married in March.
Speaker:Her name is Agnes Thatcher Lake, and you show a picture of her in the video.
Speaker:Yep.
Speaker:And she's a 50-year-old widow f- of the circus.
Speaker:So these two, they're running in these same kind of circles.
Speaker:And she was actually, like, a very famous, very well-traveled, very i- in that,
Speaker:in the circus kind of, you know, world.
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:She was like, I was reading about her a little bit.
Speaker:She's actually very well-known.
Speaker:She's very well-known, and so she stays in Cheyenne.
Speaker:So you can imagine, they're getting married March of 1876.
Speaker:He's going to Fort Laramie, so Fort Laramie's right outside of Cheyenne,
Speaker:and he's getting there by June, and then by, he takes the wagon train
Speaker:from, uh, June to July to Deadwood.
Speaker:And so sh- and she stays behind, and he wants to make his fortune, 'cause
Speaker:he's heard about all this gold.
Speaker:Of course.
Speaker:And so he's like, "I'm gonna make it rich quickly."
Speaker:And he's a gambler.
Speaker:And he's a gambler.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:So he joins Charlie Utter's wagon train, and Charlie Utter, if you
Speaker:know anything about Wild Bill Hickok, it's the name on the tombstone.
Speaker:And we'll talk more about that, because Charlie, uh, Charlie
Speaker:Utter is a fan of Hickok.
Speaker:It's his wagon train, and they all meet up in Fort Laramie, and another person joins
Speaker:the wagon train then too, Calamity Jane.
Speaker:So they take the train, the wagon train together.
Speaker:So Calamity Jane didn't know Hickok well.
Speaker:They met this one time.
Speaker:They, they must have… I, I, the more I thought about it, like, and,
Speaker:and we talk about it later in the video, like, her dying wish- Mm-hmm
Speaker:was to be buried- Next … by, next to Wild Bill.
Speaker:Uh-huh.
Speaker:And the, it must have been one of those things.
Speaker:I, and maybe this is just kind of the romantic side of, you know, ou- out-
Speaker:outlook that I have on, on stories like this sometimes, but they must have
Speaker:just kind of, like, con- connected.
Speaker:Yeah, they- Right?
Speaker:Just like birds of a feather.
Speaker:They hit it off.
Speaker:Same, same spirit.
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:They hit it off, you know.
Speaker:Because for some reason, w- throughout history, those two names
Speaker:have always gone together, and, and to your point, historically they
Speaker:didn't spend a ton of time together.
Speaker:They didn't, but you can imagine there probably are not a lot of women acting
Speaker:like Calamity Jane at this time.
Speaker:She's very much adhering to men gender norms.
Speaker:She's wearing men clothing, and she's succumbed to alcoholism, so she's drinking
Speaker:every day, which Hickok is also an alcoholic, so he's drinking every day.
Speaker:So there's some shared hardship-
Speaker:Sure
Speaker:… that they have together on this wagon train.
Speaker:A drink,
Speaker:drinking buddy.
Speaker:Drinking buddy.
Speaker:She's a good shot.
Speaker:He's a good shot.
Speaker:They can tell stories together.
Speaker:They can laugh together.
Speaker:So they probably connected.
Speaker:Well, and even like the more that I learned about them, and y- again,
Speaker:you mention it in the video, uh, and, and I'll link the video in the,
Speaker:the show notes for this podcast.
Speaker:But you talk about her, she's got kind of a big heart, right?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:When she, when she isn't drinking or when she is sober enough to, to
Speaker:do things, she is out there helping.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And he kinda does the same thing, right?
Speaker:He's a lawman, he's a marshal.
Speaker:He's out there trying to enforce the law.
Speaker:So they both have that spirit about them.
Speaker:Yeah, a charity heart.
Speaker:They have that charity heart.
Speaker:Now, I did read for him, his kinda habit, especially as a
Speaker:lawman, was incredibly rough.
Speaker:He kinda sought out the trouble, you know, and would go s- you know, from zero to
Speaker:fighting very, very quickly, and that's just kinda how he did his business.
Speaker:And even when I was looking up, there's been various movies made-
Speaker:Mm-hmm … about Wild Bill Hickok and Deadwood, and different versions.
Speaker:The, there's the TV show.
Speaker:Sure.
Speaker:The, the couple versions that I saw, I think it was, it was a
Speaker:relatively well-known actor that did one of the movies or something
Speaker:like that, but he just, he…
Speaker:Like, somebody, somebody says something to him, like, off one time, or he's in
Speaker:Deadwood, or he's in some town- Mm-hmm … and someone's not supposed to have guns,
Speaker:and he finds out he has a gun, and he doesn't even, like, talk to the guy.
Speaker:He just goes up and punches him in the face- … and drags him away, right?
Speaker:So that was kinda his reputation.
Speaker:Yeah, it's very lawless- Yeah … yes.
Speaker:And so it is very much this, uh, violent, physical time, and you get all these
Speaker:men in Deadwood, and it becomes, like, you're governed by yourself, right?
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:And, and, it, that's kind of w- I, I think that's kind of why he had this mystique
Speaker:about him, because he was a lawman.
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:He had that reputation.
Speaker:And actually, again, when I was making the video, I read that he
Speaker:had earned this reputation early as a marshal, 'cause he was, I guess,
Speaker:supposedly one of the first, um, ones to kinda have this quick, quick draw-
Speaker:Mm-hmm
Speaker:… shootout.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:You know, like, standing in the middle- Just get it done
Speaker:of the street, just, like, get it done, like a quick draw.
Speaker:Like, he was one of the first, supposedly- Mm-hmm … um, to, to do that, and to
Speaker:kinda have that- You know, established arou- you know- Sure … arou- around
Speaker:him and his re- his reputation.
Speaker:I'm a dead man walking.
Speaker:Can't you spare one more?
Speaker:I gotta look pretty when I'm
Speaker:knocking down heaven's door.
Speaker:I'm a dead man walking.
Speaker:I'm a dead man walking.
Speaker:I'm a dead man.
Speaker:So he's in Deadwood.
Speaker:We've established he gets married in March of 1876 in Cheyenne, makes
Speaker:it to Laramie about June, takes the wagon train up to Deadwood from
Speaker:Laramie, Wyoming, to Deadwood, South Dakota, and he gets there about July.
Speaker:So again, not very long time because August 1st is when all these things
Speaker:will start to happen for Hickok.
Speaker:So it's August 1st, 17 or 1876, where he's at Saloon 10.
Speaker:Now, in the video, and if you visit Deadwood, there's,
Speaker:there's a little discrepancy.
Speaker:So the location of Saloon 10 is still there, but it's not Saloon 10 anymore.
Speaker:But the actual location where Hickok was playing cards is there.
Speaker:Now, Saloon 10 had burned at one point, and the owners had moved the location
Speaker:across the street and further down but still kept a lot of the furniture-
Speaker:Yeah, the chair
Speaker:and the, the decorum-
Speaker:Yep
Speaker:… from the decorations and stuff from what the saloon looked like.
Speaker:So you can go to the S- Saloon 10, which is not the location, and see
Speaker:the chair where Hickok was, uh, murdered, and you can see what the…
Speaker:what it would, what it looked like, what the saloon would've looked like.
Speaker:And then you can go further down the street to the actual location.
Speaker:Yeah, and I think the name of that place was, like, Wild Bill Bar
Speaker:or- Yes … something like that.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:So th- that's the difference between the two.
Speaker:But so what's happening is August 1st, he's playing poker in Saloon 10.
Speaker:Poker was his game.
Speaker:And he's… The seat opens up, and a Jack McCall sits to play poker with him, and
Speaker:during the, the session, McCall loses a lot, and Hickok encourages him to quit.
Speaker:"Quit now. Try to go make some money to pay us what you owe us." And he
Speaker:gives him money for breakfast the next morning 'cause he's basically used
Speaker:all his money, and people claim, or historians claim, that insulted McCall.
Speaker:Oh.
Speaker:So
Speaker:he was insulted by him giving him basically, you know, um-
Speaker:Like charity money
Speaker:charity money.
Speaker:And so the next day- Same location, so August 2nd, H- Hickok walks into the
Speaker:same saloon to play poker, and the only seat open has its back to the door.
Speaker:And Hickok, being, being a lawman, doesn't want to sit with his back to
Speaker:the door, but he wants to play poker.
Speaker:It's his game.
Speaker:So he sits there.
Speaker:He actually asks a couple guys he's playing poker with if they would
Speaker:change seats with him, but, and if you know anything about poker,
Speaker:it's bad luck to change your seat.
Speaker:So they refuse.
Speaker:So he's playing, and, um, that's when McCall will walk into the bar and
Speaker:shout something at him and just shoot him point-blank range right against
Speaker:the head, and he kills him instantly
Speaker:Dead man walking
Speaker:And the bullet actually goes through Hickok's head into the gentleman
Speaker:he's playing poker with- Yeah, that's right … into his arm.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And that gentleman will keep the bullet in his arm for his rest of his life.
Speaker:Holy cow.
Speaker:And he's a, um, he's like a, a captain of a steamboat, of the, the
Speaker:paddle boats, and he would walk into bars saying, "Now, here comes the
Speaker:bullet that killed, uh, Bill Hickok."
Speaker:Of
Speaker:course, yeah.
Speaker:If you're a ship captain- Yeah … of like a riverboat- Yeah … or
Speaker:something like that- And you're like- … you're like, "Here's my story."
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:You know?
Speaker:"Here comes the bullet." So McCall- Knows, knows he's done something bad, right?
Speaker:And, uh, and of course, the dead man's hand.
Speaker:So Hickok and his hand is holding aces and eights, black aces and eights.
Speaker:And they don't know what the whole card is.
Speaker:That's what the fifth card is, and there's speculation.
Speaker:You'll see some places have the nine of diamonds, and, but that's… No one's
Speaker:really sure what the fifth card is, but that's the hand he has when he's
Speaker:killed, so it's called the dead man's hand, and we show it in the video.
Speaker:And sometimes when you go to his grave, people have left those cards.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And actually, when we were
Speaker:there, they had left
Speaker:it there.
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:So McCall runs out of the saloon and tries to jump on a horse, and we
Speaker:talk about this, that most horses, if you're tying up your horse to go
Speaker:in somewhere, you're gonna loosen the saddle, 'cause you're not gonna cinch
Speaker:a saddle on a horse and for it to rest.
Speaker:So when he jumps on, the horse's saddle just falls right off.
Speaker:And then he runs down the street to the butcher shop, and we, we show that.
Speaker:There's a… And he hides in the cooler basically there, and they find him.
Speaker:They pull him out of there, and they actually do the trial in the
Speaker:same place where Hickok is shot.
Speaker:Yeah, I was kinda surprised with s- such a lawless place.
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:You know, I assumed there must have been other lawmen, you know, in the,
Speaker:in the city or something like that.
Speaker:He probably wasn't, he probably wasn't the only one.
Speaker:You, we don't really know.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:It, well, they don't really… I mean, it's an informal miners' jury.
Speaker:They get the miners, the guys who are there, to stand a jury.
Speaker:So, and it, and it can't really be a trial because it's not really a territory.
Speaker:It's, it's lawless.
Speaker:It's lawless.
Speaker:It's, it's a, it's Indian land.
Speaker:It's a reservation.
Speaker:It's not… It belongs to the American Indians, so it's not, it can't be
Speaker:governed, basically, so you can't really hold a trial, but they do.
Speaker:And McCall claims that when Hickok was a marshal in Abilene, Kansas,
Speaker:again, I told you that name would come up, that Hickok killed his brother.
Speaker:Now, there is a record of a McCall being killed in Abilene, Kansas, by a lawman.
Speaker:Oh, really?
Speaker:They don't claim that it's Hickok.
Speaker:It just says lawman.
Speaker:It, the, the records aren't that clear.
Speaker:But there is a McCall that is killed earlier, uh, by a lawman.
Speaker:And it, it's not even clear if that's his brother, but the name matches up.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Now, now they, they didn't know this.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:The, the miners hear this story, and the miners are very much, again, this
Speaker:lawlessness of the West, where you govern yourself and you're very much
Speaker:eye for an eye type of mentality.
Speaker:So they let him off, right?
Speaker:You think about someone who killed your brother- They deserve to,
Speaker:to whatever they get from you.
Speaker:And so the miners are like, "Oh yeah, you're totally validated in what you did.
Speaker:You're free to go." But McCall gets out of town relatively quickly because people
Speaker:are upset, because people like Hickok, including Charlie, uh, Charlie Utter.
Speaker:And Charlie Utter is the gentleman who, they'll, they'll
Speaker:bury Hickok the very next day.
Speaker:He's not buried at Fort, uh, at Mount Moriah Cemetery, where
Speaker:we visited his grave today.
Speaker:He's, he's buried at a closer cemetery to the location of Main Street.
Speaker:But as the city grows- Oh,
Speaker:they move him
Speaker:… they move the cemetery about three years later in 1879, and
Speaker:on, on the day of his death.
Speaker:But Charlie Utter will cut that original tombstone, and it'll say,
Speaker:it says, almost looks like clutter.
Speaker:No, it's C-H.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah, shutter.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Um, but um, he also invites everyone back to his camp for
Speaker:the funeral, and it's almost like everybody from the town shows up.
Speaker:Because again, wagon train, he has a camp that he's established,
Speaker:and so everyone comes there.
Speaker:And he considered him a friend, and so he's the one who will pay for the
Speaker:funeral and then pay for the tombstone.
Speaker:And McCall gets out of the area.
Speaker:Well, he ends up back around Fort Laramie, and he's running his
Speaker:mouth that he killed a US marshal.
Speaker:He killed Bill Hickok.
Speaker:And a, an actual US marshal is listening to him.
Speaker:And again, you have this loyalty of even with the lawlessness, you have this
Speaker:loyalty between marshals that we know how difficult this job is for us to do, and
Speaker:here you are running your mouth that you killed one of the most famous US marshals.
Speaker:So he takes him to Dakota territory, a place that's actually
Speaker:run by the federal government.
Speaker:It's Yankton, Dakota Territory, and he puts him on trial.
Speaker:So it doesn't really hit that double jeopardy, since the first
Speaker:trial wasn't an actual trial.
Speaker:And, uh, Hickok's brother comes to town to hear the testimony, and he's found guilty,
Speaker:and he's hanged the very next day after he's found guilty on March 1st, 1877.
Speaker:That's, it's so funny to me that, you know, if you, you almost couldn't
Speaker:script a story like this, right?
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:And for us, you know, in the, the American culture, you know, th-
Speaker:this, this story is part of kind of that Wild West story that we learn
Speaker:growing up and everything like that.
Speaker:And you, you almost, again, you couldn't script a more predictable bad guy, right?
Speaker:Someone who just kind of gets away with murder, literally, and
Speaker:then is off running his mouth.
Speaker:Like, they, they write that into movies all the time, right?
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:And they do that because people actually do that.
Speaker:And you know, this guy wasn't the most intelligent person.
Speaker:Obviously, if he would've just kept his mouth shut, he probably
Speaker:could've lived a very long life- Sure
Speaker:and gotten away with it.
Speaker:But he obviously was not the smart guy, especially to be
Speaker:losing at poker so, um, so badly.
Speaker:We visit Hickok's grave.
Speaker:Right beside him is Calamity Jane.
Speaker:She'll die in 1903.
Speaker:Her dying wish is to be buried next to Wild Bill, because I think they had this
Speaker:close friendship and kinship, and, um, she really thinks fondly of Deadwood.
Speaker:And then right about two graves over from her is a very famous,
Speaker:uh, madam named Dora DuFran.
Speaker:And Dora DuFran runs the most profitable brothel in Deadwood.
Speaker:I- I think I saw, this was one of thing that I didn't notice the first
Speaker:couple times when I was editing the video, and then finally I, I was
Speaker:looking at some of the signs, right?
Speaker:And, and they have in Deadwood on that main street where you're kind
Speaker:of walking up and down doing most of the filming, they have signs.
Speaker:And basically, they're not quite historical markers, but they're like
Speaker:the classic kind of wooden hanging sign- Mm-hmm … hanging from outside
Speaker:of, of these historic locations.
Speaker:And so one, one wooden sign says, "This is the actual location where Wild Bill Hickok
Speaker:was, was killed on August 2nd-" Mm-hmm.
Speaker:"… 1876." You know, "Here's the spot where Jack McCall was captured."
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:And then they actually have another sign talking about one of the brothels.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:And but it said on there that it wasn't closed by, it wasn't closed
Speaker:until 1980- I know … by the FBI.
Speaker:1980. That just, I was so caught off guard by that, that that was
Speaker:ar- around doing their thing.
Speaker:Come down from Shenandoah Mountain.
Speaker:Well, I feel like, so again, we talk about all these men coming into town,
Speaker:and these women come to service the men.
Speaker:And if the men are the ones who are upholding the law, but they're
Speaker:also partaking of a brothel- Sure … then they're gonna turn a
Speaker:blind eye to it for a very long time.
Speaker:Yeah, I, I would, I just, there was just a funny aside that just really surprised
Speaker:me, and I don't think most people would notice it if they're watching the video.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:But if you look in the video, you can see that it was… It, it just
Speaker:says, "Closed '80," right, by the FBI.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Um, which was just, I thought was hilarious.
Speaker:Well, DuFran is also credited with the term cathouse.
Speaker:Oh, really?
Speaker:So she had a bunch of cats brought in on a wagon train, because the
Speaker:women who worked in her brothel were getting scared of the rats.
Speaker:And they were getting very s- upset, and so they wouldn't do their job.
Speaker:And so she brought in cats to get the rats.
Speaker:And so the men knew the cathouse.
Speaker:Oh, interesting.
Speaker:They wanted to go visit the cathouse, that had, like, 12, 15 cats there,
Speaker:who were taking care of all the rats.
Speaker:And that's where you get the term cathouse.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I d- I don't, I don't think I knew that.
Speaker:I don't think I had that in the video either.
Speaker:So it's a little podcast, uh, special for- Yeah … for our listeners.
Speaker:And it makes sense.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And I try to call you in the night
Speaker:Just to see if my voice could reach those peaks
Speaker:And so if you're wondering more about Deadwood, in 1877, you know, the US
Speaker:government tries to like, "Ah, what can we do to kinda capitalize on this gold
Speaker:that's being found here?" And they kinda modify the Treaty of Fort Laramie, and,
Speaker:and the, the Lakotas never adhere to it.
Speaker:And even today, they brought a trial against the US government in 18- in 1980,
Speaker:and they cited the original treaty saying that, "This is our land and you took it."
Speaker:And so the US government tried to pay them a billion dollars for it, and the Lakotas
Speaker:won't take it because they want the land.
Speaker:That money sits in a s- a savings account today for the Lakota people, which they
Speaker:refuse to touch it because that land belongs to them, and they want the land.
Speaker:Wow.
Speaker:And now so many people live there.
Speaker:Like, we even visited there, and it is part of, you know,
Speaker:it, it's adhered to by a state-
Speaker:Well- … government … and if, and if you're listening, right,
Speaker:so the Black Hills area, right, if you're, if you're not familiar with
Speaker:the South Dakota area, and I wasn't really until we spent some time.
Speaker:We spent a few days there- Mm-hmm
Speaker:with, you know, for a little, uh, we had a little family reunion.
Speaker:But that's right near Mount Rushmore.
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:That's Crazy Horse, which we'll talk about in fut- Mm-hmm … in upcoming episodes.
Speaker:So there's a whole lot in that area, and it's, and it's gorgeous.
Speaker:It's a beautiful area out there.
Speaker:It's, it's absolutely beautiful, and you can see why they want the land.
Speaker:And I, I think there could be some compromise being that the land belongs,
Speaker:because you can still visit, B- Bighorn is on a Indian reservation.
Speaker:Badlands is on an Indian reservation, and they still u- use it, you know,
Speaker:for people to visit, and they can still make a profit off of still
Speaker:keeping this, you know, this land, um, protected for their use of their tribe.
Speaker:So I think there could be something you could adhere to.
Speaker:But, um, what happens in 1879 in this is a big fire in Deadwood, and most
Speaker:people have not made huge fortunes.
Speaker:They've been there for, like, four years by then, and so most people leave.
Speaker:And the people who stay are people who are established in the town.
Speaker:And it has, it, it, and it, even today there's a couple thousand people
Speaker:who live there, and, um, and it, it's still, I think it's the tourism
Speaker:is really what drives the town.
Speaker:But it never is gonna hit that big heyday that it had there in the 1870s.
Speaker:But it was a very cool place to visit, and, uh, Hickok is the
Speaker:story there if you go there.
Speaker:So you definitely wanna go down Main Street.
Speaker:It's the historic Main Street, and you definitely wanna go
Speaker:to Mount Moriah Cemetery.
Speaker:Yeah, and they have, they have tour buses that'll take you up to the cemetery,
Speaker:'cause it's up a very steep hill.
Speaker:That is not one you're gonna walk from Main Street up to the cemetery.
Speaker:It's-
Speaker:They'll try to tell you you can walk.
Speaker:Don't do it.
Speaker:Don't do it.
Speaker:I mean, it's steep even sitting in a car Um, so but yeah, it was an absolute blast.
Speaker:It's a gorgeous area.
Speaker:It really did get, for me, kind of to that inner child, you know, just kind
Speaker:of little bit of excitement there.
Speaker:And we had our whole family with us.
Speaker:We had our family, they were kind of watching us film because, you
Speaker:know, that was kind of just a topic, so they were enjoying that.
Speaker:And as we look back at, you know, Wild Bill Hickok's life has been romanticized
Speaker:and immortalized in various books, movies, legends, and even this podcast.
Speaker:He remains an enduring symbol of the American Wild West and is remembered
Speaker:for his remarkable marksmanship, daring adventures, and a tragic end that befell
Speaker:many legendary figures of the era.
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