Language is a box. Dogma is a box. Comedian Cameron Gillette makes a strong case against the latter, but unfortunately, we had to use language to do this episode. Cameron and I bond over our memories of Christian weightlifting performers, then he tells me about the mortifying moment that sparked his first depression and a spiritual experience at a waterfall.

Check out the extended episode at patreon.com/davemaher with bonus intro, extended segments, and Cameron's "Funeral Planning" segment.

Transcript: This Is Your Afterlife on Podscribe

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Intro Song = Future: "Use Me"

Transitional Music = James Blackshaw: "The Cloud of Unknowing"

Outro Song = Johnnie Frierson: "Miracles"