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In episode 250 of Sports Bliss with Rob and Kris, Kristie starts the episode off discussing the Lakers and Lebron James. They discuss why the Lakers fell apart this year and who is really to blame. Next, Rob shares some rumors about troubles in the Jacksonville Jaguars front office over who they will draft with the number 1 overall pick. Will this pick show who is really in charge in Jacksonville. Then they jump back into Name, Image, Likeness news. Rob shares a story from Texas A & M's collective "the fund". He also shares the expectations Florida football coach Billy Napier has for the Gator Guard a new directive formed by Hugh Hathcock. Rob asks Kristie her thoughts on this directive and if their vision is sustainable? Then Rob shares the news that California is back at it again proposing legislation that will pay student athletes in the Pac 12 a salary. Finally, Rob and Kristie discuss the retirement announcement of Mark Emmert from the NCAA. Rob asks who would even want this job with all the issues with NIL and college football playoff expansion issues? You won't believe who Kristie suggests to be the next NCAA president.

As always Rob and Kristie end the episode with trivia and a would you rather.

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Happy Friday, everybody. And welcome back to another episode of Sports Clips with Rob and Chris. What's up, everybody? How are you guys doing? I want to start off this episode with a bang. I want to talk about the Lakers. I mean, are we cheering for them?

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Are we? No, I'm cheering that they're out of the playoffs.

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Before I get into it, you know the drill.

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It's Showtime.

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Let me play the scenario out for you.

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Let's do it.

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You are the owner of the Lakers. You've seen how this year has transpired. You are Championship holders. Two years ago, you were on the top of your game. And steadily as the past two years have gone, you have been steadily declining to the ground and on the train that's driving you to the ground. Lebron James is in the driver's seat. I read this very interesting article, and I want to get your opinion on it. Okay. Who is to blame for this year's downfall, in your opinion?

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Oh, I've said this. It's 100% LeBron James, 100% LeBron James. And the reason I say that is because his agency, that he is silently an owner in clutch sports is running the show in La. I mean, like running the show like Rob Polynca, the GM mhm. He is basically just sitting there silent and everybody's trying to blame him and the owners and poor Frank Vogel, who come on, you can't win a Championship. We said this before. You can't win a Championship unless you have great players playing great mhm. And there's a big difference in between coaching in the regular season and the playoffs. I mean, look at the Nets. They just got swept. Seriously, they have talent on that team. And so you've got to pull the right moves as a coach in the playoffs. But at the same time, if you don't have the right players and you're getting blamed, I mean, he had a bad year. They won the Championship two years ago, and he's great. Frank Vogel was a great coach with the Pacers. He was a great coach. He went deep into the playoffs every year with young teams that weren't that talented. Yes, they did have Paul George, but overall, the teams weren't great. And they went to battle year after year with the Big Three in Miami and did well. And then all of a sudden he goes to Magic. He's bad because he's got bad players. Then he goes to La and he's great because he wins the Championship. He's bad again. It makes no sense.

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So basically a lot of what you said is coming from this article. Okay, I read it, and it seemed like it was very pro LeBron James because there's this whole narrative going around that the front office is internally blaming clutch sports, which is the agency that LeBron James owns.

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Yeah.

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How is Frank Vogel getting fired? How is he in this situation? Then you have the GM, so you have Rob Polynca, uh, and Kurt Rambis sitting here not having any penalties to them because aren't they a part of the team as well yet? So you're telling me that the head coach gets fired but nobody else in administration? Basically, they're all returning for next season.

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I mean, really, they probably shouldn't have fired Frank Vogel. He didn't do anything wrong.

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He shouldn't have.

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He's not the one out there not making three pointers.

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So then we take a deep dive because like I said, they're blaming this agency for the trade for Russell Westbrook, right?

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Well, it's not just that. So let's rewind a little bit. That's how Ad got there. Mhm he converted to clutch sports when he was with the Pelicans, and then they forced the trade to La. They said he's not going anywhere else. He won't sign an extension. So when you do that and the teams know nobody's going to offer anything up for Anthony Davis. So then his value kind of de escalates a little bit. They still got good value for him with the Pelicans, but not the type of where he was in the League. Do you know what I mean? They got a bunch of young potential players and you're giving away a star. Well, that only happens because the player and his agent have told all the teams we're only going to the Lakers.

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The plot thickens.

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Then they bring in other clutch guys. Westbrook. That's the reason Buddy Hill didn't go there. That's who Magic Johnson said they had a deal with him and he's a great three point shooter. He would have been great on that team. It was a done deal for him to go there. There were other players. I think DeRozan wanted to go there who blew up, uh, in Chicago this year. He was supposed to go there. And basically LeBron nixed it because he wanted his guys that he thought they could win with. And he's done this over and over again. He did it in Cleveland. He did it not really so much in Miami because they had Pat Riley. And Pat Riley is like, I'm Pat Riley. I run the team. You don't run the team, LeBron. And I think that's the reason he didn't last there very long.

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Okay, you know what I'm saying? We all know how I feel about LeBron.

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Oh, yes.

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Okay. I'm just going to play Devil's advocate for a second.

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Okay?

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Okay. Just hear me out. So from this article that I was reading, they were basically saying like, oh, you know, LeBron James, everybody's blaming him. Everybody is blaming Anthony Davis that they had this narrative. If you don't get Russell Westbrook, we are leaving.

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Okay?

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Yeah, that was the narrative. However, LeBron James still had two years on his deal. Anthony Davis has three years on his deal. So could they even get anything for them?

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Anthony Davis left with two years on his deal with the Pelicans. He forced his way out.

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So obviously, this is coming from a LeBron James supporter, because basically they're sitting back and saying he had nothing to do with it yet it's his agency. But, I mean, they didn't threaten to leave, but I'm pretty sure that they had that narrative going in. Lebron James has always had that narrative. I want to be here. If I'm not getting special treatment, if I'm not getting X, Y and Z, I'm leaving.

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Listen, that's the way the NBA is now. It's not just LeBron James. It's any star, any big star on a team. Steph Curry. They include them in meetings when they're talking about trading for players because they want them to stay there. They want them to resign. They want them to feel part of it. What's? One of the big reasons Aaron Rogers was talking about retiring, he said he didn't feel included in the decisions that Green Bay was making. Right.

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Oh, my gosh. Um, I understand what you're saying, but that is a totally different situation because he is completely in a different ballpark than anybody else. He's not even on this planet with us.

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But I'm saying it's the attitude. These athletes that are considered I mean, they're considered top ten in their sport, those type of guys. Right. Well, those type of guys feel like they need to be included in the decisions and good executives bring them in and convince them why they shouldn't want what they're asking for their job is to convince them that they're helping make a decision that really is best for the team.

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Mhm.

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Right. But you got to think, remember, LeBron James is older. He's at a point where his objectives are to win every year. This year, every year. Try to win a Championship. Right. He can't plan to win a Championship in two years or three years. He may not still be playing to get more rings. He has to try to chase the ring every year. And so his objectives, any older players objectives are to have the best team they can have. They don't care about longevity. They don't care about contracts five years from now, how they affect. They don't care about any of this. They care about winning now. A good GM has to balance that to try to win now, but also have a plan for five years from now because you don't want to win and then stink and have no draft picks and have no cap flexibility. That's how you become the Magic. And you're terrible for ten years.

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Horrible.

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It's a totally different thing in its perspective. But 100%, LeBron was involved in every player that was brought to the Lakers. Not that it was his decision, but he set in the room.

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So he's basically sitting behind this agency. But, yeah, he's calling all the shots 100%. How is that ethical? How is that?

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Okay, this is the way it has always been.

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Can't do that.

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No, he's trying to form the best team around him that he can, and I don't blame him for that.

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Well, if you're the best of the best, then it shouldn't matter.

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Don't blame him for that. You want to win Championships, you want to have the type of team around you. But the problem is maybe he's not the best at this job. It's like Michael Jordan the greatest basketball player ever. That's the consensus, right? He's not a good gym. He's an OK owner because he lets other people run the team. But he's not the best guy at picking who the best players are to be on his team. That's not his skillset. His skill set was playing basketball.

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Why doesn't he stick with just he's good at them?

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Well, look, because his ego probably he thinks he knows best, right? He's on top of the world. Magic Johnson, we'll give this example very similar. He got the coach fired when he was a rookie for the Lakers. That's how Pat Riley became the head coach, because he didn't like the coach. They decided, well, did we fire a coach or do we fire a guy that we think is going to play the next 20 years here and be the greatest basketball player of all time? They went with the greatest basketball player. Fast forward. Magic Johnson becomes a coach for the Lakers. He lasted like two weeks. He took the player's cell phones and started throwing them against the wall because they were answering cell phones during practice and smashing their phones and stuff. He couldn't handle it. He wasn't a good coach, but he's a great basketball player. He's a great business mind. He's an amazing entrepreneur. He owns the Dodgers. They're great, but he lets them run the Dodgers. He doesn't do it.

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Interesting.

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So LeBron is to blame for this. And I know you concur.

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Yes, I do. Okay, let's move on.

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Okay, let's move on. Can we jump into we're really not going to talk NFL draft. We're doing this before the draft on Thursday. Yes, but there is a lot of controversy about the number one pick with the Jags. Okay, so basically they're saying it's down to they thought it was down between a couple of things, like an offensive lineman, which is what they probably should get right, to protect their quarterback because they're really bad. But it's really down between two defensive linemen. And one was this guy that was a candidate for the Heisman came in third as a defensive lineman. And the other, uh, is this guy for Georgia, Trayvon Walker, who only played one season and he only has like six sacks as a career. And they're saying they're going to make him the rumors he's going to be the number one pick, and he was projected to be a top 20 player, but, like, way down. Some people even say he wasn't the best defensive player in Georgia last year. So I'm sitting there looking at it and I'm confused. This is typical Jaguars, right? Clown show in full force.

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I think I'm going to have to retire my jerseys. Even though I am not surprised if this is how it goes, I'm not surprised.

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So it's going to be interesting to see who they picked tonight. And I don't know who they're going to pick, but basically the rumor is that Trent Balky wants to give from Georgia, Trayvon Walker.

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Okay.

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Okay. Who people say it wasn't projected to be a top ten pick. He's infatuated with him.

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So how did he get from barely being drafted to potentially being the number one draft pick?

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Well, no, he was going to get drafted. They're like, he's talented. He would probably be a late first round, a late first round, but he's still a project. He has upside. He's a potential guy. This other kid from Michigan has been doing it for three years.

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I was going to say, if we get this player from Georgia, is it going to help? Is he going to be ready? By the time nobody knows.

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September rolls around, the guys played one season and he wasn't even the best player on the defense. That's what everybody is saying.

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Is this a joke?

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No, it is a joke, but not a joke. So Trent Balky wants that. He's the GM, right? Mhm. Shaw Khan wants the Michigan kid. So it's going to be interesting to see this power play. This is the rumors of what's going on. It's going to be interesting to see who wins this battle if the owner decides. And I think they should actually listen to the owner for once.

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No. Oh, my gosh. I already know how it's going to happen. And the number one drop pick for the Jags goes to they have diverted their pick to the next team under pressure.

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I was going to say that pass. I was thinking that earlier. And you're going to be like, you have one job to do. Just hand them the name. Just hand them the name. I don't know. It's going to be interesting to see why line, please. No, it's going to be interesting to see which way this goes. But they're going to mess it up. Uh, because they're just clowns. I'm just envisioning they're getting ready for the draft, and they're all sitting there with Crusty the clown, putting on their makeup, uh, and getting ready their clown makeup, because Trevor. It's just a joke.

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Trevor is going to be putting that on because he is a clown.

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All right, let's get to some serious topics real quick. There is a lot more nil news in College. I know we've been talking about a lot, but some things.

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How much more I can take. I'm being honest.

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I am infatuated with this, so just bear with me. There was kind of a big couple of big things in NCAA. Let's first start out with a nice nil story coming out of Texas A and M. Coming out of Texas A and M. Okay. Because I'm just waiting for this whole system to fall apart. It's getting crazy. I just started to so at Texas A and M, they have a collective or directive or whatever you want to call it called the Fund mhm, which is so, like, Blatant, like, oh, we got funds to pay everybody, right? Um.

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Oh, my gosh.

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Uh, they are an LLC, and I think they're trying to be non profit, so they don't pay taxes for the people that are donated. But listen to what happened. So one of the players we don't know who it is, but one of the players went out to do an endorsement deal. Right.

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Okay.

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So they're going to pay him to go to the endorsement deal. And he goes, and I don't know, he does his promotion in that. And so towards the end, they're all wrapping up, and he goes over to the owner of the business. He goes, oh, I'm just curious. When will I get paid? When should I expect to get paid for this?

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Sure.

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The owner goes, well, wait, I'm not quite sure. Let me call and find out. Right. So he started making some phone calls in this, and then all of a sudden, someone from the fund calls the player, one of the organizers of the event, and says, you're not getting paid for this. You have your scheduled payments that you get through the collective every month. We just schedule events for you to do. You get your payment every month. Uh, you have to do whatever we tell you to do.

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So he's doing charity work.

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No, he's going to do the endorsement. So basically what he had not realized is he has signed over his name, image, likeness, rights to the fund. So now they can book as many things as they want for him and charge as much as they want to charge. And he only gets a set payment every month. Remember I told you this all day that these guys were going to do this?

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God, that is. I'm shocked, but I'm not shocked.

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So as I'm reading this article about it.

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Describing it, it got poked.

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Yeah.

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It literally got hooked.

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And as I was reading this, I was thinking back, I think we talked a little bit of this.

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They could be getting so much more money.

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Exactly.

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And he's only getting maybe, I don't know, 10% of that.

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Well, and then this is what their agents involved for these people. So they have to pay the agent, right.

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Yeah.

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And then the student athlete is going to get paid, but this is going to be a lawsuit. I said these things like the Gator Guard, which is the directive that was just started.

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Okay.

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And we'll get to that story in a minute. These are very smart business people that are in this. These are high donors. Rich people don't stay rich by just giving their money away.

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No. They always reinvested into something or someone else.

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They're going to be looking for some type of return, right?

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Absolutely.

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So they're going to invest in kids to go there, but they're going to charge more for them to go out and do appearances. Then they're going to pay the kids.

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So how many appearances are these kids supposed to be doing?

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I don't know.

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Is there a contract? I'm sure that there is a contract that he signed.

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Yeah. It may not say how many. It may say he has to appear for appearances to get his fee.

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Okay. People pay attention. Whenever you're going to sign something, always have somebody that's involved with legal read over it because he literally just signed over his soul and not your uncle.

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No. A lot of them get their family members. A lot of them get their family members to be their agents or whatever, because these are kids.

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You know what some of these contracts mean? They use these words and they have these loopholes to try to trick people like that. And then they're just feeding off of him and they'll be like.

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But this is what the contracts said.

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Well, you signed it, so obviously you knew what you were getting into. It's not my problem.

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And I guarantee you, if that kid transfers to another school, they still own his nil deals. So you know what they can do at that point?

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He's going to have to do to get out of it? He would have to pay back the money that they gave him to break his contract.

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That's an option.

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Yes. I'm just saying that would be typical. Or whatever he does at another school, he still owes it to them.

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Exactly.

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And then how is that school going to work with that? I don't think that's going to work.

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No, because the schools aren't supposed to be involved. So how is this it's independent. This is just independent business. People doing this. You're at Texas A and M, right. Getting paid from the fund and you're unhappy and you want to go to another school. Now you go to the other school and then they still hold your right. What if they don't ever schedule you anything? You can't go out on your own do it, because if you do, you're going to have to pay them.

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Well, then you're still getting paid, right?

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I don't know.

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That wouldn't make any sense.

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They own your rights. Now here's the thing that the person said in the article.

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For how long, though? The duration of your we don't know, College career, maybe all the way up if you get to the NFL.

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Like some people said, that some people have signed multi year deals and that they don't know what they're signing. Some have signed away their whole Nil rights even after College. Meaning if they go pro, they're going to owe money to these funds.

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You all are so dumb. Um, I'm telling you. Didn't I tell you this was a bad idea? I told you, Mark my words. Listen, everybody knows I was great.

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So let's move on to your school. The Gators, because Billy neighbor was here in Orlando last night for, uh, his speaking tour, his Gator rally tour or whatever, to talk to the booster tour. Right. And apparently he did this lovely presentation and all, but the crux of the presentation was basically about this Gator guard, the directive. And he's like, if you want to win, we've got to have players, and if you want to have players, we got to pay them. And essentially what Hugh Hathcock, he's the guy who just donated, like, 12 million to the Gators for facilities and stuff. He has started this Gator guard. And basically they said, we're going to need $20 million a year to keep this going.

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Is this, like, the same kind of organization.

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The same kind of thing as Texas A and M? So he's put that number out there that you're going to need 20 million a year if you want to be competitive and win a Championship.

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I don't even know what to say.

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How do you get people to donate 20 million a year and keep it going? I just don't understand it.

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I'm shocked.

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People at UCF are like, well, we're never going to win. We don't have that type of donors.

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Because he says, that doesn't mean it's going to happen.

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And it doesn't guarantee you anything because only one team wins.

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Well, this whole thing is such a bad idea. Okay, so they're going out to the donors and giving them this exponential amount of, um, money that they need. Okay, let's just say in an ideal world, the donors give them the schools, what they are asking for, to pay these players. They still get crap players. They still have players transfer. They still are losing conference Championships and actually still losing the National Championships. Explain to me how that all works.

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I don't get it. And now you're going to start having players sitting out saying, I'm not getting paid enough because this guy's getting paid more.

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Oh, my gosh.

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Um, but those are the type of no disrespect to people out there. But there are people that will do stuff just for money, right?

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Yeah.

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So in the olden days, right. The olden days, people would go to a College or program because they really wanted to go to that school.

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Yeah, right.

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Even as an athlete, they grew up wanting to be a Gator fan. They grew up wanting to be a Hurricane fan, growing up wanting to go to UCF, whatever it may be, because they want to go to that school and they bleed those colors and they are loyal to there. They may choose to go to one place over another, cause maybe they get in the NFL, but they're still loyal. Now it's going to be, well, who can pay me the most? Because there are rumors floating around. There's a guy on UCF right now. I won't say who it is, but there's a starter that supposedly another University. The Hurricanes have offered him money to transfer.

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Is he going to transfer?

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We don't know. And the reason they really want him to transfer is not just for him. They want his cousin to commit to Miami also because they think his cousin may go to UCF instead and he's like a four star player. They're trying to go the back route and pay both of them to go there. But this is the type of stuff that's going on.

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Yeah, I know.

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And so it's really crazy. So let me jump to a third story here real quick on Nil and I'm going to get to the final thing to get your opinion. California is in the news again. They're the leaders with all this. They were the first ones to pass Nil. So they passed it in 2019, I think it was. But it was only to go into effect in 2023. And they bumped it up because everybody rushed like Florida and all this. We all rushed to get the bills passed. So now they've proposed a new bill that deals with paying players and it's about actually paying players from the University. So they have proposed this bill. It's not law yet. It's going through their Senate and all. But basically they're saying you take whatever revenue the sport earns. So we'll take football, for example, divide it in half if that half pays more than what the scholarships they pay the players. Now they take the half, they subtract the amount of scholarships from that half, whatever money is left over there to pay the football players a salary and they will do this for every sport in College is what they propose. So let me give you the numbers real quick. In football, they would end up paying how much per player? They went back three years and looked at all the financials for all the pack. Twelve teams, 137,000 a year on top of scholarships for every football player. Now, the other sport that qualifies is men's basketball, right? How much would they pay the basketball players?

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I don't know, 200,000.

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Like 105,000, because there's less players, there's less revenue than football. But okay, 105,000. The only other sport that would qualify is women's basketball. How much would they pay the women's basketball players? 60,000, 10,000 per student, because that's all they generate. Now, all the other sports don't generate anything. They're in the negative. So now they're also saying you have to comply with Title IX, so you have to treat women just as fair as men.

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How?

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I don't know.

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I mean, that already sounds unfair to me.

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Well, if you're doing it on percentages, then it's fair. You're getting 50% of the revenue. Whatever the split is, if you don't generate revenue, then you don't make any money. But what about a headache?

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They're causing more problems doing it this way?

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No, but now, what about all the other programs?

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Nobody is going to want to do anything else because they're not going to get paid.

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No, but all the other sports that kids get a good education, they go to Cal Berkeley or whatever, get a good education, and they run track or play volleyball or something like this, they don't get anything. But how did they support those programs now, financially, if the football program isn't allowed to support them? Because football supports all the athletics, basically.

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Yeah.

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Well, the universities are pissed about this. This is just getting crazy. And they're still allowed to get nil on top.

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I don't even know what to say. This has gotten so out of control. And it's like they keep trying to make proposals that is going to like, oh, well, if we do it this way, it'll be better. Well, they keep trying to make it fair every way that the players get paid, it's not going to work. That's why I'm so against it. It's not that the kids shouldn't earn money. It's that it's causing problems everywhere else. And they don't realize it. They're like, well, I just want to get this player because I want to get the Championship. So we have to pay them. They're, uh, going to get paid regardless. But I'm just saying, once you start implementing these things, what about the tiny schools that can't even afford it? They don't even have an income for their football team.

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Well, it's going to end up closing a lot of athletic departments.

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Crazy. Insane.

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Yeah. And kids that use this to go to school on that use this to get an education, it won't ever happen. Now, the thing to the California bill, the last part of it is that they said they don't get that money. So say it's $130,000 a year, right? They don't get that money every year. They can only take 25,000 of it each year. And then if they graduate, they get the rest of the money. So they're trying to put things in. But I don't know how you find that.

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I don't know how you find all the what if somebody's like, okay, I'm not going to touch that money until I graduate. Graduation comes. Sorry, but we don't have money to pay you.

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I got a lithium battery, if you'd like.

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I mean, I'm just saying it could happen.

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Oh, yeah. No, it's a mess. I don't think it's going to pass, but that's what they're proposing. Now, one last thing to tie all this in, since we're feeling so great about College sports right now. All right. We're feeling so great. The great Mark Emirates, the head of the NCAA, just announced this week that he will retire in June 2023. So basically, a year from now, he's going to retire. And everybody was so excited. They're like, oh, he's so terrible. He hasn't done anything. First off, it's unfair, because he's been handcuffed by athletic directors and presidents of University.

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He has anything to do with him.

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He doesn't do anything. He just runs the program. He doesn't make the role.

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He's trying to make everybody happy. However, for these bigger conferences, he has nothing to do with that for anything.

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Because the Power Five football run NCAA sports. Yes, they make all the rules.

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But anybody that's a true College football fan knows that.

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No, they don't know it. Most people don't know it because they don't look into it.

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Then they're not a true football fan.

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But anyway, so this is what I thought because everybody was applauding, oh, he's gone. We're going to fix College sports. And they're like, oh.

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My gosh, it's going to be worse than ever.

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Watch. You know what I was thinking? Who wants that job?

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That's why he's retiring.

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He's like, he's like, I'm done good job. I can't do it anymore.

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I can't deal with you all anymore.

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And so I think they're going to have a hard time finding someone to take over that's willing to do this.

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I know who.

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Urban Meyer.

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Problem solved.

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Right there. Solution. Urban for NCAA President. We've got to put that out there.

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Vote for Urban. It's Trivia Time NBA Edition. Are you ready for your question? What was the most famous nickname for Sam Perkins?

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I wanted, uh, to say it's something like Sleepy Sam. Something like that.

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Are you asking me.

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Sleepy Slam? Sleepy Sam Perkins, I think is. Yeah.

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Final answer.

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Sure.

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Wrong. It is big Smooth. Like the cigarettes.

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I don't know about that, but I'll go with it. Whatever.

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I have it right there.

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Look, I see it from. I don't know anything about@basketball.com.

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From icebreakerideas.com.

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Um, that may ring a Bell. I don't know.

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Okay, let's wrap it up.

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The Big Smooth.

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The Big Smooth. Like them smoking them cigarettes. Okay, um, let's wrap it up with. Would you rather.

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Yeah.

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Would you rather have a trash coach and a great GM or a trash GM and a great coach?

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Oh, that's tough. That's really tough.

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I don't even know where to start with this one. I think I would have to go with maybe a better coach.

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I got to go with a great coach because hopefully they can overcompensate and make the team better because, well, you see it in College all the time, right? There are teams that don't have as much talent, and they end up winning, right? So you can do it if you have a really great coach. But in pro sports, with the salary cap and all, if you don't have a good GM, you're kind of screwed.

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You're screwed.

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Yeah, because you can't get players. And if you don't have players and pros, you're bad. It doesn't matter. I mean, look, Frank Vogel, if he doesn't have the right team, he can't win.

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No, for sure. And if you have a trash GM or let's just say this, if you have a trash coach, you know that they're going to be replaced every couple of years, right? The coach is going to be replaced every couple of years.

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But I'm reconsidering this, actually, I think I would rather have a really good GM and a trash coach. It depends on the sport. But if you have a good enough team, you don't even really need a coach in a way that's not true in basketball. That's not true. A good enough coach. I don't know. What would you do?

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I would rather have a really good coach.

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I'm going back and forth on this one.

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Trash cans.

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Well, we have the Jaguars, for an example of both.

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Trash GM and trash coach and trash quarterback.

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That's too far. That's just too far. With that luscious long blonde hair, he's going to be throwing touchdowns and they're going to double their wing count next year.

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Listen, hear me. Hear me out for a second. When he plays terrible again, because he will. And when everybody sees that, I will be expecting a formal letter of apology from everybody. Dear Chris, you were right about everything. Trevor Lawrence is trash. Garbage. Thank you.

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Goodbye. We will never question you again. You want to hear something funny? So one of the guys that covers the Jags, basically, he was talking about their win prediction for next year and mhm, he's like, oh, I could see them winning one game seven, eight or even nine games next year.

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We'll win nine games if we get the, um, defensive back from Georgia. Watch.

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He's a defensive lineman. But no, they play the AFC west this year. That's four losses right there. That's four losses right there. They're not winning any of those games. And then they're going to lose to what? The Colts twice. The Titans twice. They may win one again.

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Okay, listen, do you think Texans. We will lose against the Texans? We lost against the Texans twice last year.

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Eight or nine losses right there.

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Can we be on our hot streak and beat Miami still? That's the question.

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If they play Miami.

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If we beat Miami, then that's one.

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I don't think they don't play Miami this year. They played them last year.

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Okay, so then it's a big zero.

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Yeah. I don't know who they play in the NFC. I haven't looked, but we'll go over their schedule. But there's no way they're winning nine games. There's no way.

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Dude, you're tripping.

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No way.

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All right, guys, we're going to wrap up today's episode. Thank you so much for hanging out with us. Everybody have a fun and safe weekend and we will catch you next week. Bye bye. Love you so much.

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