[Introduction]

In this episode, we sit down with Brian Wright, the host of the highly successful "Success Profiles Radio" show. Brian shares his journey into the world of radio and public speaking, overcoming initial resistance, and how he has built a thriving business around his passions. From publishing books to launching a monthly digital magazine, Brian's story offers valuable insights for aspiring entrepreneurs and introverts looking to step out of their comfort zones.

Brian Wright

Brian K. Wright is a writing coach, radio show host, and magazine publisher who helps people share their message with the world and monetize their expertise. With extensive experience as a college instructor, Brian has created and implemented strategies to help people craft their stories. His bestselling book series “Success Profiles: Conversations With High Achievers” has featured celebrities such as Kevin Harrington, Chris Powell, Jack Canfield, Mark Victor Hansen, Sharon Lechter, Denis Waitley, and many more. He has been featured on the nationally syndicated TV show The List, as well as Entrepreneur, Authority Magazine, and on numerous business and personal development podcasts.

[Timestamps]

• (00:49) Brian's Current Endeavors: Radio Show, Publishing, and Magazine
• (03:53) Overcoming Challenges and Resistance in Public Speaking
• (07:24) Insights on Introversion and Public Speaking
• (13:16) Synergy in Business Ventures
• (19:20) Faith and Inspiration
• (20:50) Future Aspirations and TV Show Plans
• (27:31) Final Thoughts and Contact Information

[Relevant Links]

• Success Profiles Radio: [https://briankright.com/]
• Ultimate Achievers Magazine: [https://ultimateachieversmagazine.com/]
• "The List" TV Show Clip: [https://writeabookforyou.com/]
• The Success Principles by Jack Canfield: https://amzn.to/3yZv51w (Affiliate link)
• The Aladdin Factor by Jack Canfield and Mark Victor Hansen: https://amzn.to/3MVhTy5 (Affiliate Link)

[Call to Action]

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Jim Burgoon

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Copyright 2024 Jim Burgoon

Welcome to Grace in the grind, the podcast where we dive deep into the

journeys of heart centered and purpose driven leaders and entrepreneurs.

We'll pull back the curtain to explore the stories behind success, how people

have navigated the toughest challenges, overcome their obstacles and found

their way through the grind to build something truly impactful, whether you're

a Christian leader looking for guidance or an entrepreneur seeking inspiration.

We're here to equip and encourage you.

So let's get started, and find the grace within the grind.

This is Grace in the Grind, and now your host, Jim Burgoon.

, thank you so much for coming on the show with me today, Brian.

I wanted to get to know you a little better.

I wanted to allow you to get to share some of your story.

So within that, I would love to start with the fact is let's talk about some of

the things that you actually do now, like that you're accomplishing and successful.

And like I said, you have a.

talk show, radio show that is highly successful.

You're a publisher.

Tell me a little bit about that.

And we're going to dive into some stories about that.

I host a weekly radio show called success profiles radio.

I've been doing it since January, 2012.

So I had my 12 year anniversary recently, and I've got over 500 episodes and the

show is an hour long and it's an interview show like this and it's live radio.

So there's commercial breaks and there's music and everything and

it's professionally produced.

I love doing it.

In fact, when I competed in speech competitions in high school, one of

the events Was radio news announcing and I fell in love with it after my

initial resistance doing it at all.

My English teacher at the time said, I think you'd be really good at this.

And so I picked an event where I wouldn't actually have to face my

audience and radio news announcing was it and did really well.

And then I decided to start doing other events where I'd actually

did stand in front of the audience.

And by the time I was a senior, I made all state and speech.

It fits my temperament.

It fits my skillset, competed in college, ended up being a teacher for a while.

I taught at a two year business school in Nebraska for about five

years, taught public speaking, English composition, and business math.

And the commonality was all of those were required courses.

And a lot of the students did not want to be in my class.

And so I had to make it as fun as possible so that they would want

to come to class because they had to have those classes to graduate.

And I know that speaking in front of other people is a big

fear that other people have.

So I tried to make it fun, and I realized after a while that if I could teach other

people to write, then maybe I should write my own book, which I did in 2009.

My first book was about student leadership, and then after a few

years, I decided, well, gosh, if I did all that, then why can't I do this?

Books for other people and coach them through the process

of writing their books.

And so I did that and all of these things synergized beautifully.

So I was able to use my radio show as a platform to advertise that I help

people write their books, which I do.

And I had so much content from the radio show that I had not repurposed that I

decided to create a magazine, which is now called ultimate achievers magazine.

That's a monthly digital publication.

And I invite people to contribute articles every month.

And some of my writers are paid subscribers, which is awesome.

So that's my business model for that ultimate achievers magazine.

com is where someone can go to check that out.

But having that platform, I think creates a really great brand for me because.

If I help you write your book, you'll probably be at my radio show.

I can repurpose some of your book content into magazine articles and

it's a platform that I can help you keep getting your word out.

It hasn't been without its challenges though.

And I'm sure you probably want to ask me about that.

Yeah, absolutely.

And as I'm taking notes of some of the things you're saying, there's a few lines

of thinking I want to drive down and.

One of the first ones is I love where you started.

You said I had challenges, like I had initial like resistance.

So versus what you do now, which is of course, you know, radio show your

speaker, you're, you know, you do those things, but you had an initial resistance.

First and foremost, where did the, the resistance come from?

And then what were like some of the things that you did to

overcome those resistant points?

Yeah, I think the initial resistance to going out for speech in

high school was I was afraid of speaking in front of an audience.

I remember one time in junior high, I was picked to recite the Lord's

Prayer in front of the congregation and I forgot it partway through.

The congregation knew it.

So they carried me to the end.

And then the girl who spoke after me had her speech written down and she read it.

And I thought, Oh, is that how we're supposed to do this?

I had no idea, but having had that experience caused me some resistance

to wanting to do it again, because I didn't want to repeat that moment.

But when I found out that that particular event did not require me to

face an audience, my voice was pumped into the next room with the judge and

the audience and the only person in the room with me was a timekeeper.

And he would flash.

Time cards to show me how much time I had left and the nature of that event

was you were given a bunch of new stories and you were given 30 minutes

to compile a newscast, which would be relevant for an audience to listen to.

And then I had between 4 and 5 minutes to do my newscast.

That was the event.

So that's actually sounds interesting.

It was.

It's fascinating.

But to be behind a closed wall, That's interesting.

I enjoyed it.

and I got to carry that with me when I started my radio show, I had a little

bit of fear of what was I going to say.

So I don't know if you're familiar with football, but when Bill Walsh

coached the San Francisco 49ers in the eighties, he was very famous

for scripting his first 20 plays.

And a lot of coaches do this now.

He had planned what the first 20 plays of the game were going to be, see what

the defenses did to react to that.

And then the rest of the game plan was informed based on how the first

20 plays went, which was really cool.

And so I script my first.

Three or four minutes.

And then I read my guest's bio and then I have a set of questions that I'm not

married to, some questions I ask everybody and other questions I ask based on what

you are actually doing specifically.

So I mixed it up.

It's never the same show twice.

In fact, I've had several people on more than once, and it's not the

same show twice, even with the same person, I don't have to ask them what

they did five years ago if they're on again, because we already did that.

I'm asking them what they're doing now and the growth they've had and how

they're serving the world differently.

In fact, I have one guest who's been on seven times.

He is my most frequent guest.

I've had a couple of guests on maybe four times.

Okay.

Yeah.

That's actually really, really cool.

And so, and you had mentioned people who work with you, whether it be publishing

or whatever, have opportunities.

So for the listeners out there, working with Brian, we'll give

you opportunity for the show.

So, and all of that information on how to get them will be in the show notes

that you can download from the show.

So here's an interesting question.

Now I'm on the end of, I never shut up in school.

So I was the kid that was always the bad kid.

Never shut up.

Always challenging.

which is funny because now I'm on the other end of that, of I talk for a living.

Do you find yourself being more on the introverted or extroverted side?

Let's start with that question.

That's a fascinating question because naturally I am introverted,

but I can act extroverted when I have to be the litmus test for

that is when you need to recharge.

Do you prefer to be alone or do you prefer to be with other people?

I very much prefer to be alone when I need to recharge.

So yes.

I deal in personality studies.

So like I'm certified in disc and stuff like that.

So this is fascinating for me because I'm an extrovert.

Like when I want to recharge, I go find a crowd.

And my wife is massively introverted.

she goes find a, like a room with a book.

so for all of the audience that may be listening to are on the more

introverted side, you know, what would be some advice you would give

them in the struggles that you faced?

On being able to do like what you do like some of them want to write books

obviously But some of them want to be able to speak and think, Oh, I can

never speak because I'm an introvert.

Cause we get all these weird things in our heads.

What would you say to those guys?

Well, you know, it's really interesting.

I think if you look at Hollywood, for example, a lot of the most famous

actors actually are introverts.

And the reason they succeed, whether it's on stage or whether it's on film or

television is they get to play a part.

They don't have to be who they are.

They get to play a part.

So it's what Tom, what Todd Herman talks about is the alter ego effect.

And so for me, when I do my radio show, I'm just playing

as part of a radio show host.

And I love it.

I don't give my host a name because I just use my own name on the show.

I think that's one mistake that a lot of hosts make when

they have their own podcast.

They make it about themselves and not their guests.

The people I know full well, my audience is usually listening

because of the guest who's there.

Now I do have a core following of people who want to hear what I'm doing

because it's me, but a lot of the brand new listeners aren't there for me.

They're there because their guest brought that audience and sometimes

some of those people will stay around, but I think for me, it's about

just getting started, you know, the whole idea of 20 seconds of courage.

Darren, Darren Hardy was on my show a long time ago, and he talked about how,

when you're afraid to do something, all you need is 20 seconds of insane courage.

If you are.

going on stage to speak for an hour.

You don't have to have that insane courage for an entire hour.

You just need to be insanely courageous for the first 20 seconds.

And once you are there, you are in a flow and now you can just do what you do.

It's just getting started.

That's the hard part.

So get started and be consistent.

That's one reason why my show has been around for so long is

because I choose to be consistent.

Most shows don't go beyond seven episodes.

I don't know if you knew that.

No, I did.

Yeah, but it's because people don't stay committed.

You may not have much of an audience at first.

I don't have any idea how big or small my audience was, but I do know.

At one point during my first year, I had someone who was

very high up in the Vaisalas organization, multi level marketing.

She brought her whole audience to listen.

And I had so many downloads that week and I think some of them stayed

with me and some of them are my friends or became friends of mine.

But yeah, when you have a guest, maybe not necessarily a famous guest,

but a guest who's really influential and has a huge following when that

person says jump and their audience does, it can work really big wonders.

Wow.

That's, and that brings up some really cool things to the line of thinking

is, you know, for like my introverted friends out there, listeners, you

know, just get started, you know, have that insane courage for 20 seconds,

just get over the hump and it'll flow.

And then in that, in that midst of the thing, it's, is you, the

people you bring on making it about the guest, there you go.

It can unlock audiences and stuff.

So that's, incredible.

In fact, in some of my early shows, whenever my guests told a story, there

was a temptation for me to tell my own story, not necessarily to prove that

my story was better than theirs, but to prove that I had a story just like theirs.

And a friend of mine said, people aren't listening because they

want to hear you tell your story to let your guests talk more.

Right.

how did you deal with that?

How would you, how did you deal with that?

So like those temptations to want to.

You know, whether it be our ego or whatever it is, how do you fight

those temptations and what were some of the things you were feeling?

I think early on, I was afraid of whether or not I could fill the entire hour.

And later on, I realized I was so overprepared for every show

that I don't have to tell that story if it's not really relevant.

And if it doesn't add to where I'm going to next, because it got my questions.

I have them in a specific order.

But again, I'm not married to.

The having the questions, because sometimes people will answer questions

that I was planning on asking later.

So I weave that in, I don't, you know, I don't ask that question

later as if it's the first time the topic has come up, because then

it sounds like I wasn't listening.

Right.

And do you always find, Yeah.

I love it.

I love a flow and a conversation.

So I'm right with you on that.

So then it comes down to, did you find it hard to let things go?

At the beginning, at the beginning, yeah, because, I just, I was just so excited

about being able to share my story and hope that people were actually listening,

but I don't have ego about that anymore.

If my guest asks me, well, then sure, I'll share that story.

Occasionally they do, but I keep on making it about them and I might share

that story with them during the break when it's just us behind the scenes while

the commercials are playing up front.

So I have a chance to talk privately with my guest and it's pretty cool

too, because then I can guide the conversation where I want to go next.

And once in a great while, the guests will say, Oh, I don't want to talk about that.

Okay, great.

I will delete the question.

so then let's, shift gears a little bit because like one of the other things you

mentioned, and I wrote down, cause I'm taking notes as this is, I wrote down

synergy because you had mentioned, you know, the ultimate achievers mag, you

mentioned, you know, you write books for people, ghostwriting, publishing.

How did you come to the synergy of all of that?

Like, is, was that like a master plan or it was just kind of like, Oh, you

know, kind of just happened as it goes.

I think for me, certain pieces of the puzzle were revealed

to me at the right time.

I didn't have this master plan.

the show came first, that's the springboard from where everything flows.

And then I realized after.

You know, a few years, gosh, you know, I've had so many great interviews.

Why don't I turn that into a book?

And so I did two volumes called success profiles,

conversations with high achievers.

The first of them was published by Morgan Gaines publishing.

And so I picked the very best 12 interviews from my show

and compiled that into a book.

And I wrote an intro chapter introducing everybody.

And that did pretty well.

Then I did volume two and I've got enough that I could probably do

30 or 50 of those books, but I.

Don't want to do that many.

And then I realized, well, how else can I repurpose some of this content?

a monthly magazine became a thing.

And so it was just deciding on the revenue model and, and really honestly

deciding on a revenue model for my show.

Cause my show doesn't make money for a long time.

I didn't know how to monetize it.

I tried the paid advertising thing.

But people are not patient enough to see how that will roll out because in an

instant gratification world that we live in now, they think that, Oh, if someone

hears an ad on the show, once then tons of people will call or visit the site.

That's not necessarily true.

Even on radio advertising, FM or AM radio advertising, Jake, I rent Levinson

talks about this to go from zero to hero.

Someone needs to hear your ad an average of nine times.

But in the nine times that you hear it, you actually probably heard it

three more times per occurrence.

So you might actually have heard that ad 27 times without realizing it.

And there's that whole idea of, well, gosh, if they're advertising on the radio,

they, they must have something going on.

People must be buying this.

Maybe this is the right solution.

So I'll inquire people don't have the patience for that.

And so here's my little pro tip.

And I got this pro tip.

Not only from one of my coaches, but also from somebody who was on my show.

My guest list is a great lead list.

Now, of course you don't treat your guests like they're a lead in your funnel, right?

Because that there's something really creepy and, and inhumane about

that, really, if you think about it, because I want to treat people

with the respect that they deserve.

But I didn't realize for a very long time that, well, gosh, maybe some of

these people on my show Who haven't written a book, maybe they should.

So maybe I should start asking, right?

In fact, in the beginning, I used to only have people on my show who

have written books, because for me, that was evidence of their journey.

And I actually turned down guests who didn't have a book yet.

That wasn't very smart, but that's where I was thinking at the time.

And then now after a while, I don't really care if someone has a book or

not, because I can find enough things about them to talk about and ask them

Interviews that they've done elsewhere first.

And most of my guests now come from PR agencies.

And so they send me links to interviews and they give me their one sheet and

they give me suggested questions.

When someone suggests a set of questions, most of the time they're very

terrible and they're very self serving.

So I write my own questions so that my questions will be much better than yours.

I don't tell them that obviously, but it's the truth.

sometimes their questions are very helpful.

It gives me something.

To talk about it gives me an arena to dive into and play around in for a while and

I'll ask them questions about their topic, whether I actually use their suggested

question or not is up for discussion, but I like to be very creative and I

keep it conversational and it's always about honoring the guest and if they have

something to promote, I absolutely ask.

About that, because that's what some people only do media like this

when they are promoting a book or a project, in fact, Darren Hardy that

I mentioned earlier, he was promoting his entrepreneur rollercoaster book.

He only promotes and does shows like mine or like other people shows

when he has something to promote.

It's very much like when people go on the tonight show, you only see

them when they're ready to promote an album or a movie and then they

disappear for a couple of years.

And then when they're ready to promote again, you see them everywhere for

two weeks and then they're gone.

that unpacks a whole lot.

that's cool.

let me ask this cause this is actually, I'm very highly curious here.

Like in 12 years of you doing this consistently doing this, how

often have you wanted to quit?

Never, never.

This is my happy hour.

I love doing my show.

In fact, I do it on Monday on purpose because most people hate Mondays.

It gives me something to look forward to.

Nice.

So I am excited that, that, you have, you, you're at a place where

you said, I don't want to quit.

I love that because so many of us want to quit.

I can't not do this.

If that makes sense, that makes perfect.

Can't not do this.

Makes perfect sense.

So, how did you come to that conclusion?

Like, was it that time when you were doing the news and you just found out you loved

it and you just said, I love this is what I want to do with the rest of my life.

Yeah, it is.

In fact, sometimes what I would do when I was a kid, now this dates me a little

bit, but there was no internet when I was growing up, when you were hearing songs

in the radio that you liked, you have your tape recorder up to the radio so you

could tape them and listen to them later.

I pretended I was a DJ.

I thought that my world in radio would be as a DJ.

Oh wow.

Yeah.

That is, that's cool.

So you're not too dated.

I was before the internet as well.

So Yeah.

And so, I mean, the idea of doing a talk show never really occurred to me.

Yeah, definitely.

So, so then, so then, all right.

So talk show doing those things, not founding your calling in life, you

know, cause you know, this, this is one thing that, that my listeners, a

lot of them will be our Christians or not all, but most of them, how does

your faith Play into all of this.

I love that.

In fact, sometimes I ask people how important their faith is to them.

If during my research, I find out that their faith is very important to them.

I will ask them that.

And in fact, one of the questions I ask at the end of my show is

who inspires and motivates you?

There was one time where three weeks in a row, the guest said, Jesus, I'm

like, Oh, I love this answer so much, but my faith is really important.

In fact, I run a clean show.

I don't allow curse words.

And if I know that I have a guest who does like to curse, I will say.

I tell everyone this, but you can't say bad words on my show.

Cause this is a family friendly show.

Oh, okay.

Well, that gives me hope.

Cause I don't want, I don't like the language either.

So cool.

Yeah.

I like that.

who inspires you?

You know, it's interesting.

I will give an answer that one of my guests gave me a long time ago.

And at first I thought it was a little ego centered, but when he explained

it, it wasn't, I'm inspired by the future version of who I'm going to be.

Okay.

My journey is not done yet.

There are lots of things that I still want to do in my life before I'm done.

And so I'm inspired by what the future holds for me and

what God has in store for me.

I know that if he's planted a dream in my heart, he's going to

find a way to make it come true.

That's awesome.

so what is one of the major things you want to accomplish over the

next 10, 15 years, I want to turn my radio show into a TV show.

Oh, that's awesome.

That'd be amazing.

Did you already scope out the channel you want to be on?

there are things I can't talk about.

there are some things that are potentially in the works.

I know someone who is well connected in the entertainment space and he has

lots of connections to things like that.

I have ideas about where I would love my show to land.

I would love my show to land on a channel like CNBC.

That's wonderful.

Now would you follow the same model that you're doing I think it would be

very similar to what I'm doing now.

Although there might be a tonight show element where I

have some fun with my guests.

Okay, maybe little contests or quizzes or whatever, but I want to keep it

serious and kind of professional too.

I don't want it to get silly, although silly is fun, but I don't want it to mess

up the vibe of what I'm trying to create.

Okay.

so man, I first and foremost, thank you so much.

This has been a great conversation.

Like I'm enjoying this a lot and I have so many curiosities that are happening here.

So I'm looking over your bio here as, as we're talking and it goes

into, you know, TV shows and stuff.

And it said you were featured on the show, the list.

Yeah.

Tell me about that.

Like what, what was that experience like?

Have you heard of the list?

I have not actually.

Okay.

Well, it ran for five seasons.

It's no longer on the air, but basically it, the show would highlight people

who had expertise in something.

And then they would give a list of things to be like, for example,

my segment was three things you need to know to write a book.

And so they interviewed me in advance and then they spliced my clips with.

Stuff that they created.

So it wasn't just them straight up interviewing me, although they did

that in the prep work, but they would splice clips of things that I said to

fit into the way they created the story.

And it was really cool.

In fact, you can see that clip.

If you go to my site, write a book for you.

com spelled all the way out at the very bottom, you can see the clip

where I was on the list and it's two, two minutes and 15 seconds.

It's very short, but I'll tell you what the day that it aired, there

were, I think, three segments.

The day that my show aired live and it was on our local ABC channel,

they teased one of my clips at the very beginning of the show.

Now they ran my segment second.

I think maybe there were four stories that they ran because it's a 30 minute show.

But anyway, they ran my show second and then I turned the TV off because

I didn't need to see it anymore.

I saw my stuff and I'm done, but yeah, that's it.

But that clip is on as is on the page, write a book for you.

com and it's at the very bottom of the page.

I'll make sure to, add that to the show notes as well.

I'm excited.

I'm going to run after and go check it out.

did that actually being on that show, did that help you boost some of your,

stats you weren't allowed to promote anything, but they did show pictures of.

Both of my success profiles, conversations with high cheaper books, and I sold some

copies the day that it aired, within 24 hours after that segment aired, I did sell

a few extra copies of both of my books.

So that was a nice little bump, but I wasn't allowed to promote.

Hey, I'm a ghost writer.

And hey, I.

Run a show and I do a magazine that wasn't allowed.

Okay.

So, so then, man, that's, I'm just excited about the TV show.

I, I think I want to be on the TV show.

Actually, there was a portion I wanted to be an actor, but

we'll see if that ever happens.

So, so as we kind of land some planes here and, one thing I

would ask, like, so the audience.

Most maybe Christians, some, some are not, entrepreneurial types.

what is some advice that you would give them if they were like, if, if you were

just starting out again, what advice would you give these guys to say, Hey, you're

starting out, here's something you can do.

I think I would probably get started a lot sooner.

I tend to not make quick decisions.

I'll be presented with an idea and I'll sit with it for a while.

And of course I'll pray about it too, but I'll sit with it for a while.

But once I'm committed to something, I am all the way in.

And I think I wish I would have believed in myself a little bit more early

on because I am my own worst critic.

And sometimes I am my own greatest enemy.

No, because I think that everything happens the way that it's supposed to.

Everything is divinely orchestrated.

It's never too late for God's plan to come into action.

I love that.

And that's, I live at two.

I started my radio show when I was in my forties.

And so if there are people younger than 40 and you think I have no idea yet

what to do with my life, don't despair.

Colonel Sanders didn't start KFC until after he was retired.

He was in his sixties when he got the idea of selling a chicken recipe

to restaurants and earning some kind of a royalty deal off of that.

And he finally got someone to say yes.

And then it all took off and he started his own restaurants after that.

So he was very late in life.

So I'm excited.

Cause that's encouraging me.

Cause I'm in my forties and here we are at my new show.

So excited about that.

What is, as this is probably one of the last question or two, as we close down and

love to have you back on at some point.

what is a book since we're, you're an author, you're a publisher,

what is a book that you say?

Every person needs to read.

I love the success principles by Jack Canfield.

That's a really great book.

And there's another book that I really like called the Aladdin factor by

Martha Johansson and Jack Canfield.

Okay.

I've read the physical version a couple times.

I have it on audible.

I've listened to that a couple times.

And in fact, I.

Don't remember if it's still on YouTube for free or not.

I've listened to it on YouTube for free, but maybe it's not there anymore.

That must be why I decided to spend a credit on Audible and read it there.

That way.

I know it's always there.

Awesome.

I said, I see a trend here.

You like Jack Canfield?

So I do like Jack Canfield.

Yeah, I do like Jack Canfield.

I like Mark Victor Hanson.

I like Tony Robbins.

I like Dennis Whateley and I listened to Grant Cardone.

I mean, I, I have some of his books, but hearing it in his own voice.

is he, he, you'll run through a wall when you listen to him.

Hmm.

I have to try that now.

He's a hot topic lately.

So that's, that could be another conversation.

Yeah.

so, but Brian, thank you so much for being on the show.

The conversation, I think it was great.

And I, and I appreciate you and the suggestions you you're making.

how could people find you?

let's hit that up before we go.

Okay, well, you can find me at briankright.

com.

You can also go to writeabookforyou.

com to learn more about what I'm doing.

And at the bottom of that page, you can get on my calendar if you want,

or if you just want to go on to my calendar separately, it's callwithbrian.

com.

And again, to check out the magazine, it's ultimate achievers magazine.

com.

So a number of places you can find me.

so make sure guys, if you guys who are listening, go ahead and check it out.

Jump on a call.

If you wanting to write a book, think about writing a book or

have a book in your future.

This is the man to call and make sure you do that.

And of course, check out his events page and find out what he's got going on.

Presently, depending upon when this episode is released.

So Brian, again, thank you so much for being with me and

having a great conversation.

Thank you, Jim.

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