It's always nice to have a bae. On today's episode, you got one! I'm excited that this week's guest on Healing In Hindsight is the lovely Simone Moore aka Diabetes Bae. Not only is she a type 1 diabetic but a registered nurse as well. You know I had to take advantage of that.
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Hey, everybody.
Taylor:Welcome back to another episode of healing in hindsight, and
Taylor:today we have a special guest.
Taylor:As as we do every Thursday, I am going to be sitting down with Simone more
Taylor:AKA DiabetesBae, and Simone is such a.
Taylor:Just wealth of knowledge and understanding.
Taylor:And I really enjoyed this conversation.
Taylor:She and I have talked multiple times offline.
Taylor:and I really feel like you're going to enjoy this episode and all the
Taylor:knowledge that she has to give.
Taylor:She is not only a type one diabetic, but a nurse and diabetes educator.
Taylor:So she is very familiar with a lot of things that you go through
Taylor:from being diagnosed to what you should experience after you're first
Taylor:diagnosed and being able to provide.
Taylor:Not only information, but just the right education and understanding that you
Taylor:need for yourself as a new diabetic.
Taylor:she's got a lot of great stuff coming up, so be sure to check her out, make
Taylor:sure you follow her on Instagram.
Taylor:She is also a part of a group that does Clubhouse rooms on things.
Taylor:She said, what was it?
Taylor:Tuesdays, Thursdays, and Saturdays.
Taylor:so be sure to follow her on clubhouse, follow her on Instagram
Taylor:so you can keep up with all the great things that she's doing.
Taylor:She's literally my diabetic sister from another Mister.
Taylor:and I'm really excited for this conversation.
Taylor:Let's do it.
Taylor:Hi, Simone,
Simone:Hi, Taylor.
Simone:I am doing wonderful.
Simone:How are you?
Taylor:it.
Taylor:Great.
Taylor:I see you got the cool merch in the back.
Taylor:We're going to have to find out what that's all about later.
Taylor:I love shirts and stuff.
Taylor:So anytime guests come on and they're like, I've got this
Taylor:shirt, I've got this thing.
Taylor:I'm like, tell me more, how can I get one because I need it.
Taylor:well, I'm really excited to have you on the show for those who are not
Taylor:familiar with you I guess I'll give you a little backstory of how we met.
Taylor:it was a quiet day on clubhouse where I'm just roaming the halls, looking for rooms
Taylor:to be in and trying to start my own rooms.
Taylor:specifically towards diabetics.
Taylor:It was pretty much crickets through most of the rooms that I ran, except
Taylor:for one person who decided to show up.
Taylor:And that's, that's Ms.
Taylor:Simone here, AKA DiabetesBae.
Taylor:I love your, your handle.
Taylor:and we literally sat, how, how long did we talk?
Simone:We talked for six hours.
Taylor:It did not feel that at all.
Taylor:It did not feel like that.
Taylor:We had one guy pop in at the last minute, and we were both like
Taylor:working on a winding down now, but we'll hang on just a little bit.
Taylor:So, it is pretty much been two peas in a pod ever since.
Taylor:And so I'm excited to actually have you on the pod and get to hear your
Taylor:perspective as a type one diabetic.
Taylor:So, if you don't mind just introduce yourself, who is Simone?
Taylor:when were you diagnosed?
Taylor:What are your passions?
Taylor:What are things that you are working on?
Simone:Okay, well first thank you for having me today.
Simone:I will never forget that day.
Simone:You're my first club house, new friend at random.
Simone:We found each other.
Simone:So, so many things have happened since that day that I just want to say
Simone:thank you for and my name is Simone.
Simone:I am a type one diabetic.
Simone:My diaversary is December 18th, 1996 was the year that I was diagnosed.
Simone:So I've been diabetic for 24 years.
Simone:I was diagnosed at the age of 13 years old.
Simone:so it's been, it's been a long journey.
Simone:I must say a lot of things have changed over the years.
Simone:So always something new coming out.
Simone:I'm always excited about that.
Simone:I am also a registered nurse.
Simone:I've been a nurse for over 10 years.
Simone:I generally work with just pediatrics.
Simone:I've worked at two children's hospitals and I am in the Texas area
Simone:somewhere between Dallas and Houston.
Simone:I'm always in one of those two cities my greatest passion would
Simone:be, I'll just love helping people.
Simone:when I was younger, I, I don't know.
Simone:I had this fascination with homeless people and I told my mom, I always
Simone:wanted to start like a homeless shelter or center or something.
Simone:So I get to cover that passion by volunteering with my church.
Simone:Cause they do a lot of events
Simone:with homeless people.
Simone:But also when I was diagnosed with diabetes at the age of 13, I then
Simone:became so fascinated with medicine and just trying to learn everything
Simone:that I could about diabetes.
Simone:I had a very, very good team when I was first originally diagnosed.
Simone:So they made it maybe, I mean, it's still was a hard transition
Simone:to find out you're a diabetic, but.
Simone:They kind of eased it for me because I had such a great support system.
Simone:So in my past time, what I love to do is travel.
Simone:I love to travel the world.
Simone:I did not let diabetes stop me.
Simone:I've gone to New Zealand by myself.
Simone:I am always looking for the next adrenaline rush.
Simone:I climbed a bridge in New Zealand and that was my heart was pumping.
Simone:My blood sugar stayed normal, but it was just, something great to do.
Simone:I love the beach.
Simone:If I could sit on a beach every day, at some point I'm going to
Simone:live on a beach, but for right now, I live in the real world and.
Simone:No, not living on the beach, just living regular city life.
Simone:And then I love to read that I'm not a TV person.
Simone:I can sit and read books all day.
Simone:I have so many books, I just got a couple of new diabetes books.
Simone:and I read about everything into science.
Simone:not necessarily always medical books, just whatever I can get my hands on.
Simone:That gets my attention long enough.
Simone:I'll sit and read and forget that I'm supposed to go to sleep.
Simone:That's really me.
Taylor:we call that bell life, when she was, when she was just walking
Taylor:around everywhere and didn't, she just happened to navigate, I used to
Taylor:do that in high school all the time, and it would freak my parents out
Taylor:because they were like the TV's on.
Taylor:And she's sitting at the kitchen table reading.
Taylor:What happened to our kid who, who did something to our kid?
Taylor:Cause she doesn't, she doesn't ignore the TV except for when I'm in a good book.
Taylor:And you bring up something that I'm trying to work my way back in
Taylor:because I will ball out in Barnes and Nobles or half price books.
Taylor:Like I will at a makeup store.
Taylor:And my partner is like, you don't need more books because you haven't
Taylor:finished reading the other ones.
Taylor:I'm like, I need a library in my house and shut up.
Taylor:This is what I want.
Taylor:I want a library in my house.
Taylor:it is a, a dream of mine that is going to happen with the
Taylor:ladder, it's going to happen.
Taylor:So anyhow,
Simone:That's why I know we are soul sisters because you brought up bale.
Simone:I love that's my favorite Disney movie.
Simone:And I've told people so many times that who ever my Prince charming is he is
Simone:going to surprise me with the library.
Simone:And I'm going to just sit and go and read books all day.
Simone:So I'm just waiting for my beauty and the beast library it's coming.
Simone:I know it's coming.
Taylor:Yeah.
Taylor:That's, that's that I really feel like that's half of what men don't get
Taylor:about women sometimes is books are like lifeblood necessities for us because,
Taylor:and I think it's a little bit of a historical thing of not being allowed
Taylor:to be educated and things like that.
Taylor:So it's just like nine times out of 10, you take it to a bookstore.
Taylor:You tell you you're going to get a library for her.
Taylor:She's down.
Taylor:Like, just test that.
Taylor:And if not, cause I know that there's some that aren't, but.
Taylor:You never know.
Taylor:That's awesome.
Taylor:Well, I would love to know, and I feel like I say this every episode,
Taylor:but you never know who might just be listening for the first time.
Taylor:I love to ask my non-diabetic guests and then my diabetic guest, one
Taylor:question pertaining to something that they want to myth bust.
Taylor:So for my diabetic friends, I like to ask what's one misconception
Taylor:about being a diabetic that you want people to know is incorrect.
Taylor:Stop the madness.
Taylor:We're shutting it down right now.
Taylor:This thing is wrong.
Taylor:Stop spreading the madness.
Taylor:What's that one thing.
Simone:that is such a good question.
Simone:There are so many, I, especially traveling.
Simone:I have, I've had so many different things come up or, people see my devices.
Simone:What is that?
Simone:But I think even 24 years in the biggest one for me is I
Simone:can eat whatever I want to eat.
Simone:I can still get that.
Simone:I mean, family, friends, new people, especially now that they see, okay,
Simone:they see my insulin pump, they see my continuous glucose monitor.
Simone:Some people are, they'll come up and they'll ask me about it, which I love.
Simone:But the thing is it's like people will ask me.
Simone:I'm more than willing to talk about my diabetes to tell you what it is.
Simone:My thing is after the fact they're like, Oh, well, can you eat that?
Simone:But should you be eating that?
Simone:Well, I don't think you should have that.
Simone:And it never ends it.
Simone:It's always there.
Simone:I mean, some of my family they've gotten better with it over the years
Simone:cause they realize just like I told everybody that I talk to, I can have
Simone:anything I want, as long as I know, you know how to manage my diabetes.
Simone:If I want to eat a bowl of cereal, maybe I have a pre
Simone:bolus because that bowl is here.
Simone:I love cereal.
Simone:Like cereal was my thing in high school or mama.
Simone:My mom was like, is this girl only going to eat?
Simone:You're diabetic.
Simone:You can't only eat cereal, but I love cereal.
Simone:And I don't want to feel like I can't eat it.
Simone:I cereal hole.
Simone:It's like all of the fruity ones were my favorite.
Simone:And so.
Simone:I just want, non-diabetics, I want diabetics that struggle
Simone:with this to know you can have anything you want in moderation.
Simone:It's figuring out how to work it in your diet.
Simone:Maybe there's a certain time of day.
Simone:You should eat it.
Simone:Maybe you need a pre-bolus but just don't everybody.
Simone:Can you eat that?
Simone:My ears plugged my ears because that question never ends.
Taylor:turning around on people.
Taylor:Just give them my back, like, okay, let's start again.
Taylor:What was your question?
Taylor:And then just keep doing it, like, like you're training.
Taylor:Like every time that you asked me this really ridiculous question,
Taylor:I'm gonna keep turning my back on you until you understand.
Taylor:This is not the question to ask me.
Simone:He asked to just fill my mouth up with whatever I'm eating.
Simone:So what did you say?
Simone:So, yes.
Taylor:Man.
Taylor:That is, that is so funny.
Taylor:Yeah.
Taylor:I think the the, should you have that, or even in Facebook groups where
Taylor:they're like ripping people apart when they post their meals or whatever, and
Taylor:it's just like, okay, don't be mad.
Taylor:Cause that might not be your setup.
Taylor:Like, can you not tell people you're doing too much this too much that
Taylor:now some people are asking for it.
Taylor:So they're like, what am I doing wrong?
Taylor:But I feel like Facebook groups is such, such murky water to be in, to
Taylor:ask about a very personal experience.
Taylor:And so, I clearly have a thing with Facebook groups.
Taylor:I'm I refuse to start when, if, if you're listening right now as much as I
Taylor:want to show community, I will tell you right now it will never be on Facebook.
Taylor:Yeah.
Simone:And I'm in, I'm in several Facebook groups.
Simone:And like you said, the read questions, I try to answer ones, when I can,
Simone:but I read some of those answers and I'm just like, you should, I don't
Simone:feel like anyone should ever be shamed and you just, you just never
Simone:know what anybody's going through.
Simone:Like, I could be on my diet and stay great.
Simone:24 seven for the most part.
Simone:And then there's like one day, maybe I just, I need a break.
Simone:I need a treat.
Simone:I want to enjoy something.
Simone:And I don't want to feel like anybody is going to shame me because today I decided
Simone:to, at my favorite sprinkles, I'll get the sugar-free red velvet cupcake, but I know,
Simone:they're like, Oh, you're having a cupcake.
Simone:Yes.
Simone:I'm having a cupcake it's for me.
Simone:So I totally understand you with those Facebook groups.
Taylor:Tense man.
Taylor:Like I just wanted a fucking doughnut.
Taylor:Okay.
Taylor:Can I just have a donut?
Taylor:I didn't order a whole dozen, right?
Taylor:My business.
Taylor:Spiny of donut shit.
Taylor:I would love to dig a little bit into what inspired your career,
Taylor:because you definitely have a heart of gold and wanting to help people.
Taylor:and I love how you said, like your medical team was really influential.
Taylor:did you, did you want to be a nurse before you were diagnosed?
Taylor:Or how did you fall into the idea of like, you know what I'm going
Taylor:to pursue a career in, in a medical field and specifically nursing.
Taylor:Cause I know some people really want to be doctors and some people are
Taylor:like, no, I'm cool being a nurse.
Taylor:So I love to, to learn more about how you got into that.
Simone:Okay, so fires.
Simone:No, I never, never, never, never.
Simone:Before the age of 13 thought about a medical career I actually wanted
Simone:to follow in my father's footsteps.
Simone:He is a computer technician.
Simone:I've had a computer since I was little.
Simone:I absolutely love technology.
Simone:So.
Simone:That's what I was going to be.
Simone:I really didn't understand what computer technician meant, but if you looked at
Simone:anything that I wrote out or are you going to be, when you grow up a computer
Simone:technician and then diabetes came.
Simone:And so it really wasn't even the initial.
Simone:I went to the hospital and I had those few days there with the medical team.
Simone:It was over time, kind of the educators.
Simone:I may I went to diabetes camp my first summer of having diabetes
Simone:and they just, I don't know, they just poured so much into me.
Simone:And what I figured out over time is, Hey, I want to be that for somebody else.
Simone:And I know for me, it was hard to, there were times where it was hard to
Simone:listen to the medical professionals who.
Simone:they know the science of it, they read about it, but they
Simone:don't live it every day.
Simone:They don't know what it's like to really live with this.
Simone:they, they tell you to do certain things and I'm just like, that's not realistic.
Simone:I mean, maybe sometimes I can do it that way, but in my everyday
Simone:life, that doesn't work for me.
Simone:And I go through this, I live with this.
Simone:So I just wanted to be that nurse for somebody else.
Simone:Now I know you said it talked about the doctor.
Simone:I don't want to be a doctor somehow in there it became an OB
Simone:GYN instead of an endocrinologist.
Simone:I don't know why, but we got past that and we kind of like, no, that's
Simone:not what we're supposed to be doing.
Simone:I feel like even the times where I thought that I wanted to do something else,
Simone:I always come back to this no matter what, I always come back to diabetes.
Simone:So.
Simone:It's it's really a passion for me.
Simone:It's really in my heart.
Simone:It's really the reason I became a nurse.
Simone:I met so many families where, when I was a diabetes educator for the hospital,
Simone:the parents will be like, look at her.
Simone:She's a diabetic, she's a nurse.
Simone:it made me feel good too.
Simone:They're like, she doesn't have anything she's normal.
Simone:And she lives every day and we would have conversations and the families were just
Simone:so excited to know that I had diabetes Sue and I'm teaching them about diabetes.
Simone:So it's always been there, but really, since my diagnosis,
Taylor:Wow.
Taylor:Wow.
Taylor:you, you slid right into my next question because, I can imagine
Taylor:being a healthcare worker also a diabetic and you work with kids.
Taylor:Right.
Taylor:and so I could absolutely see how that would be.
Taylor:So life changing to see that the person that is helping you is also in the
Taylor:same shoes as you and you, you have something to look forward to, because
Taylor:I think, it's one of those setups where we connect so much better with what
Taylor:we know with what's familiar, right?
Taylor:We're humans, we've shown that pattern over and over and over again, if
Taylor:I can relate to you in some kind of way, It makes me feel good.
Taylor:It makes me want to trust you.
Taylor:but I can imagine there was also some challenges as well with having
Taylor:your diagnosis and having to work in a medical space all the time.
Taylor:So I'm curious to know, like, what were those challenges and
Taylor:how did you get through them?
Taylor:And what advice would you give to other, medical workers who were
Taylor:working with similar conditions?
Taylor:If not the same.
Simone:I'm going to start with my initial.
Simone:Going into a hospital.
Simone:it kinda depends on your position, but I feel like nurses, doctors, they
Simone:work sometimes they work 24 hours.
Simone:So this could be something that affects them too.
Simone:But for me, the initial nursing positions, or actually I went in as a nursing
Simone:assistant, but the positions that were open were only night positions.
Simone:And so my endocrinology, she was very reluctant when I told
Simone:her I went from a nine to five.
Simone:I was a stockbroker before I worked at the hospital.
Simone:So I'm working a regular Monday through Friday nine to five job.
Simone:And then I told my doctor, Hey, I'm about to go back to school for nursing.
Simone:I'm going into a three 12 hour, night shift a week.
Simone:And she was like, I don't think it's going to work, but we'll see.
Simone:And so honestly, going in, I lasted six weeks and my blood sugars were.
Simone:All over the place.
Simone:So I went from being in control to quickly being out of control.
Simone:I wasn't getting enough sleep.
Simone:My body was trying to figure out, okay, you're up all night?
Simone:What are you doing?
Simone:checking at different times now I'm eating at different times.
Simone:And so I ended up, luckily they worked with me and they let
Simone:me switch to a day position.
Simone:And then two years later, once I became a nurse, I went back into
Simone:the same situation because as a new nurse, I had to take a night position.
Simone:They didn't have any day positions.
Simone:and, but the second time it was different because I was prepared.
Simone:I feel like you can do any and everything.
Simone:When you're prepared, I was prepared for it.
Simone:I knew months in advance that this was going to be the case.
Simone:It was kind of like, what do I need to know?
Simone:And what do I need to do to figure out?
Simone:So, because I had went through the experience before I wasn't ready
Simone:this time, we focused on, okay, we need to have set times where you eat.
Simone:Maybe I was like getting up during the day to also make sure I was still having
Simone:food or in the days where I was sleeping.
Simone:making sure that at that point, I believe I was on like a
Simone:continuous glucose monitor.
Simone:So that totally changed the way I was doing things.
Simone:, yes.
Simone:That was like, The best new device I could ever have.
Simone:I struggled with night times, and there were nights where I was so
Simone:busy working that I wouldn't stop for a second to have a drink, like,
Simone:okay, you can't be dehydrated all night and taking care of people.
Simone:So the hardest thing for me was figuring out my diabetes, but it
Simone:definitely worked when I went in the second time and I was prepared for it.
Simone:I had a plan.
Simone:I had alternatives to, if that didn't work, then I could try this.
Simone:And I honestly worked as a night nurse for almost six years.
Simone:I prefer nights I didn't.
Simone:Yeah.
Simone:I was able to control my blood sugar.
Simone:So my advice to any, any healthcare workers is anybody in diabetes with
Simone:diabetes who is going in a job where it's like a night job, just being prepared,
Simone:knowing the things to look out for.
Simone:Knowing, you know how your diabetes works.
Simone:If there are certain times where you, maybe you do need to have a snack during
Simone:the day, cause your blood sugars are dropping, you're sleeping during the day.
Simone:Now just knowing those things and you can get through it with preparation.
Taylor:Yeah.
Taylor:Yeah.
Taylor:Wow.
Taylor:That's really interesting because when I was first diagnosed,
Taylor:I was in a night job as well.
Taylor:And I was working with the Australia New Zealand market at Apple.
Taylor:So I was there when the iPhone six, the Apple watch, all of that came out.
Taylor:And my, my training class actually watched that guy in Australia who
Taylor:dropped his phone on national television.
Taylor:He was the first one to get his iPhone six and he dropped it.
Taylor:We watched it live because we were on their time schedule.
Taylor:And so my schedule was typically three to midnight or four to one because we
Taylor:dealt with double daylight savings time.
Taylor:We dealt with daylight savings time here in the U S and then daylight
Taylor:savings time for Australia, New Zealand.
Taylor:So everybody wanted the, like two to 11 shift because it was like,
Taylor:okay, that's not, it's, it's still got plenty of time during the
Taylor:day, but you're not up all night.
Taylor:And then there was the most of us who were three to 12, and then we
Taylor:shifted that meant four to one.
Taylor:And then if it shifted again, five to two, right?
Taylor:So you were, you were out and so.
Taylor:I did not land the two to 11, no matter how hard I tried.
Taylor:And I was experiencing my crazy symptoms during this time.
Taylor:and so passing out the crazy thirst, the lethargic, like, I feel like
Taylor:I'm just walking through mud all the time, just tired all the time.
Taylor:Can't sleep through the night because my mouth is so dry and sticky.
Taylor:And so I started to miss work and I was a temp for Apple.
Taylor:So I really had to be on it because you know that they got that six
Taylor:strike rule and you're, you're done.
Taylor:And, it's, it's insane.
Taylor:So I kept going to the doctor, kept going to the doctor.
Taylor:And when I finally was diagnosed, I, I was already out the door, from
Taylor:that position, there was nothing I could do to come back from it.
Taylor:Now, thankfully, they had a rule with the temp agency that you when you finish a
Taylor:contract, you can go back after 90 days.
Taylor:And so I did eventually go back and I had to get a medical accommodation
Taylor:because that's when I started Metformin, which just tore everything up.
Taylor:Like everything.
Taylor:Like, I, I, I'm not going to want to see new diabetics, like
Taylor:they put me on and I'm like, dear God, I hope, I hope you don't go.
Taylor:What I went through.
Taylor:It's bad, Mexican night, every night for like the first two weeks, or at least
Taylor:that was, for me, it was terrible yet.
Taylor:It caused so much stomach stuff.
Taylor:no vomiting, no vomiting.
Taylor:Just, I I couldn't feel my legs for, for two weeks.
Taylor:We'll just leave it at that.
Taylor:And so, yeah, having to get a medical accommodation to go to the bathroom all
Taylor:the time, but I finally looked up and I got a 7:00 AM shift and everything
Taylor:just suddenly just went so much smoother because I, I couldn't sleep well.
Taylor:my numbers were all over the place on top of, I was in denial my first
Taylor:two years as, as a baby diabetic.
Taylor:So I wasn't taking my medication consistently.
Taylor:I was like, what?
Taylor:Because it was just jacking my stomach up all the time.
Taylor:And then I'm like, Oh, well I can do this with just food and exercise alone.
Taylor:I'm like, no, you can't, you weren't doing it before you were diagnosed.
Taylor:Like stop the madness.
Taylor:So it, it, those night jobs are more power to you because it really
Taylor:can be really heavy on your body.
Taylor:If you're not prepared, It can be so heavy.
Taylor:And that leads me to my next question, but I'm really excited about, because.
Taylor:I did not get diabetes education for all of the ODI diabetics.
Taylor:I'm sure this, that when you are first diagnosed, typically your doctor
Taylor:tells you, or your endocrinologist tells you that you need to attend
Taylor:some form of diabetes education.
Taylor:Course it's like night school for diabetes.
Taylor:Right.
Taylor:And I do recall, I do recall my doctor telling me this.
Taylor:I remember going home with a pamphlet and some papers and stuff like that.
Taylor:I wasn't quite clear on, do I schedule this?
Taylor:Do you schedule this?
Taylor:When does this happen?
Taylor:Right.
Taylor:So six years later and I still haven't had it.
Taylor:And, Simone being a diabetes educator, I asked her if she would be willing
Taylor:to use me as a Guinea pig for what an education meeting would be like.
Taylor:Excuse me with her using me as a brand new type two diabetic.
Taylor:I'm just going to pretend like I'm doing all the things that I was doing
Taylor:when I was first diagnosed, which was not anything you're supposed to do.
Simone:Yes, anything you're supposed to do.
Simone:So, I have prepared a basic going to be basic diabetes education.
Simone:we'll keep it simple.
Simone:The biggest thing about when you're going into diabetes education, especially
Simone:as a new diabetic, the diagnosis is self is already so overwhelming.
Simone:I remember like, wait, what?
Simone:No, I have to give myself shot and, or this medicine or.
Simone:There's so many thoughts already going into your mind and into your head.
Simone:And you're, you're trying not to overthink everything.
Simone:So I feel like a lot of the programs try to keep it really basic because
Simone:especially now there's so much technology and devices and what we try to do is
Simone:have other classes, okay, now that you've gone through the basics, now
Simone:we can go into what is a continuous glucose monitor or CGM, possibly talk
Simone:about pumps depending on what your doctor is talking about with you.
Simone:So we kind of keep all of that for later discussions.
Simone:basic education generally starts with what is diabetes.
Simone:It means, you have too much sugar.
Simone:In your blood.
Simone:What happens is a lot of times with type one diabetes or with type one
Simone:diabetes, your body stops producing the insulin that you need to help
Simone:that sugar get into the cell.
Simone:So usually what insulin does is it, they kind of talk about the locking
Simone:key, the, the insulin and the sugar blush the sugar in your blood, they
Simone:connect and they go into your cells and they provide your body with energy.
Simone:So with type one, you don't have that insulin with type two.
Simone:You have maybe some more insulin resistance.
Simone:So you would have things like maybe you're not producing enough insulin or
Simone:the insulin that you're producing is not the right combination to get that in
Simone:the energy that you need, or to get that sugar into your sales for that energy.
Simone:So that's pretty much what diabetes is.
Simone:And when you're asked to poke your finger, you're checking for the amount
Simone:of sugar that's still in your blood.
Simone:So with type one, Generally for the most part, you're going to be on insulin.
Simone:I have, I've met one type one at camp and she was on diet because
Simone:they caught it early enough, but they told her at some point she
Simone:would be on insulin with type two.
Simone:Didn't really the options going to be diet, exercise.
Simone:you could also be on oral medication or even insulin.
Simone:So that's kind of the basics.
Simone:Yes.
Simone:Ma'am.
Simone:Oh, that's you?
Simone:I was like, where are you raising your hand?
Simone:You have a question.
Taylor:we were on, on oral medication and that's me.
Simone:Yes.
Simone:And like you said, the oral medications, you just, you, you have to make sure that.
Simone:I know a lot of people don't like to read them, but those pamphlets that
Simone:come with your medication, reading those side effects, those commercials, you
Simone:see that say these are the side effects.
Simone:You need to know those because those are generally going to be reasons that you
Simone:would be calling your healthcare providers to say, Hey, I'm going through this.
Simone:What what's going on?
Simone:Sometimes they'll say, okay, in the beginning, you'll have that.
Simone:It'll, it should last a few weeks.
Simone:But after this amount of time, if you're still having that,
Simone:then it becomes a problem.
Simone:So with diabetes, generally, the signs and symptoms, they call
Simone:them the three-piece, which Taylor has talked about earlier today.
Simone:So they are polydipsia, polyuria and polyphagia, and those are
Simone:excessive thirst, excessive, hunger, and excessive urination.
Simone:And so a lot of times I've even had like families, especially of younger children
Simone:where they all of a sudden wet the bed.
Simone:And that can be a sign of many things, but one of them could be diabetes.
Simone:they haven't wet the bed in a long time.
Simone:They've gotten to this point where they're so thirsty and they're
Simone:going to the bathroom all the time.
Simone:And then they all of a sudden have an accident.
Simone:And then we're finding diabetes.
Simone:So just knowing the signs and symptoms now, also, now being
Simone:diagnosed as a diabetic, no, that those same symptoms could be a
Simone:sign that your blood sugars high.
Simone:When you're having high blood sugar, you're going to go to
Simone:the bathroom all the time.
Simone:You're going to want to drink all the time.
Simone:you're gonna want to eat all the time.
Simone:He may have blurry vision.
Simone:Some people notice when they're first diagnosed, Hey, I'm
Simone:having trouble reading things.
Simone:I'm having trouble seeing things.
Simone:That's another sign that you may have diabetes or that your blood
Simone:sugars high sometimes also like numbness and tingling in your feet.
Simone:Foot care is going to be a part of your daily taking care of yourself.
Simone:So the day-to-day of diabetes is going to be checking your blood sugar
Simone:and that'll depend on your doctor.
Simone:type two.
Simone:Sometimes they only have you check the fasting blood sugar in the
Simone:morning type ones generally are checking their blood sugars before
Simone:each meal and before bedtime.
Simone:but.
Simone:They should give you a plan that says, okay, this is how often we would like
Simone:for you to check your blood sugar.
Simone:These are the times that you should be taking your medicine and you want
Simone:to kind of stick to the same time.
Simone:So if you take, if you're on Metformin and you take it every day in the
Simone:morning, Try to take it around the same time every day to kind of help with
Simone:keeping those blood sugars more steady.
Simone:Then there comes a with testing your blood sugar, how to test
Simone:your blood sugar correctly.
Simone:Now I have some people who think they should, they might start eating and
Simone:they have food on their fingers, or they haven't stopped to wash their hands.
Simone:They haven't used an alcohol swab to clean their fingers, and then
Simone:they get this crazy blood sugar and they're like, well, I feel okay.
Simone:And I haven't been as high.
Simone:I haven't been going to the bathroom or had any symptoms.
Simone:And I'm just like, what did you just clean your finger before you started?
Simone:It could be as simple as washing your hands, washing your hands with soap
Simone:and water or using those alcohol swaps and remembering to allow the alcohol.
Simone:To dry before you poke your finger.
Simone:That's also something I feel like I always have to remind people of.
Simone:and then when you're poking your finger, you want to stick
Simone:to the sides of your finger.
Simone:So if you're here, you're going to go kind of not right in the middle.
Simone:You want to go kind of off to the sides of your finger.
Simone:It's a little more sensitive in the middle of your finger.
Simone:And over time, a lot of people start to have that issue with the dexterity
Simone:of their fingers because they're poking your you're poking your finger so much.
Simone:So that's when you know, continuous glucose monitors come in and help
Simone:with things like that because you're not having to poke your finger.
Simone:also with the day-to-day of diabetes is going to be.
Simone:Trying to get in some exercise, 30 to 60 minutes a day, a 30
Simone:minute walk most days of the week.
Simone:So five, six days a week.
Simone:If you can, if you're new to exercise, you're going to want to be careful
Simone:because some people start off and they just go run in and their blood sugar
Simone:goes down or goes up depending on where it was when he started, depending on
Simone:what type of exercise you're knowing.
Simone:So you want to make sure that, if you're new to it, I would say,
Simone:try a five, 10 minute walk three times a day versus trying to do
Simone:the full 30 minutes at one time.
Simone:But also being mindful whenever, no matter what, no matter when it is,
Simone:no matter what the feelings are.
Simone:I generally tell my diabetics, if you fell off, check your blood sugar,
Simone:it's a simple thing you can easily do.
Simone:You can go ahead and check it.
Simone:And if it's normal, you can say, okay, it's not my blood sugar.
Simone:It's something else.
Simone:So, if you start to feel off check your blood sugar also, when you're working
Simone:out exercising, especially if you're away from home or even in your car,
Simone:you'll want to have some type of juice.
Simone:hard candy.
Simone:The glucose have.
Simone:Now I personally don't like the glucose tabs.
Simone:They're a little chalky, but I have noticed,
Simone:I have noticed that my guys love to carry them because they're easy for
Simone:them to just put in their pocket.
Simone:So I've talked to a few guys and they're like, I'll deal with the chalky because
Simone:I can easily put this in my pocket.
Simone:So I'm like, okay, now me, I have boxes of juice in my car.
Simone:I keep candy in my purse.
Simone:And the rule of thumb is have 15 grams of carbs.
Simone:so it's the rule of 15 is have, when you are a blood sugars below 70, you're
Simone:going to have 15 grams of carbohydrates.
Simone:You're going to wait 15 minutes and recheck.
Simone:Now I'm going to tell you personally, that was one of the hardest rules for me
Simone:to discuss with my families as a nurse.
Simone:I feel like everybody is different.
Simone:The rule of 15 may not work for everyone.
Simone:you have to find what works for you for me.
Simone:Sometimes it's as simple as.
Simone:10 grams of something, depending on what I'm having.
Simone:Sometimes I need a little more and I also want to tell you cause this was another
Simone:thing that was hard for me when explaining to families and having to let them know.
Simone:There's been times where I have low blood sugars and it, it really puts
Simone:your body into starvation mode.
Simone:And I want to eat the whole kitchen.
Simone:I laugh at those means that are like the, all the cabinets are open the
Simone:diabetic cat, the low blood sugar.
Simone:And they're trying to eat the whole kitchen because that's
Simone:made me I've, I've been there.
Simone:I know it, it feels like I'm like, Oh, but I'm starving or I have it.
Simone:And then your body is like, no, you didn't have enough.
Simone:And you're waiting.
Simone:And I feel like, especially with having my continuous glucose monitor, I'm constantly
Simone:like, wait, wait, it didn't go up yet.
Simone:it's only been five minutes.
Simone:It changes every five minutes.
Simone:So.
Simone:It's really going to be about figuring out what works for you.
Simone:in later education, we can discuss different ways to test
Simone:and find out what works for you.
Simone:finding out what foods affect your blood sugars in a certain way,
Simone:finding out what times of the day.
Simone:Maybe you should have less carbs.
Simone:And then if you want to have more, you can eat them later in the day,
Simone:depending on what works for you.
Simone:so then the next biggest thing for the day to day is going to be diet watching
Simone:what you eat now, your carbohydrate amount is generally going to be based
Simone:on what you discuss with your doctor.
Simone:They're all there.
Simone:There's so many options out there.
Simone:I mean, A lot of the regular rates of doctors are going to say for me, and
Simone:from all of the things I've read is generally, 15 to 20 gram carbs, snack,
Simone:30 to 45 grams of carbs per meal.
Simone:And so, and you want to like your nighttime meal, you're going to want
Simone:to make sure to kind of add some protein in with that meal to help
Simone:sustain your blood sugars overnight.
Simone:So different people try different things.
Simone:You're going to hear everything out there.
Simone:I know diabetics who are on keto diet.
Simone:I know diabetics who do low carb.
Simone:I know diabetics who do plant-based, which is a lot.
Simone:Like a lot of carbs when, when you're doing plant-based diets.
Simone:So in the beginning, keep it simple.
Simone:We need to figure out what works for you, but eventually you may
Simone:end up trying something else and finding that it does work for you.
Simone:And it does help with you not having that rollercoaster of blood sugar, ups and
Simone:downs, and depending on what you eat.
Simone:So those are the main things that you're going to want to keep an eye on.
Simone:also just knowing the signs and symptoms of low blood sugar.
Simone:So you may feel shaky.
Simone:You may feel I get sweaty when my blood sugar is low.
Simone:again, feeling like I am starving, sometimes I'm confused.
Simone:Sometimes I am irritable.
Simone:and then, Oh, like, yes, my heart is beating out of my chest.
Simone:I'm like, what is it?
Simone:Slow down, calm down.
Simone:It's okay.
Simone:So, when you.
Simone:Like I said, if you start feeling that way, check your blood sugar
Simone:check to make sure the best thing you can always do is check.
Simone:I know a lot of diabetics as they get older, they of like,
Simone:Oh, I feel a certain way.
Simone:I just still say, check your blood sugar.
Simone:Cause you never know something else could always be going on with you.
Simone:And that could be why you feel that way.
Simone:and then, so understanding complications with diabetes, especially with type
Simone:two, even type one, you want to be careful watching your blood pressure.
Simone:You want to watch your cholesterol.
Simone:You want your bad cholesterol to be under 100.
Simone:You want generally once your blood pressure to be like under,
Simone:I want to say one 30 over 80.
Simone:so those are the ABCs of diabetes.
Simone:So a is going to be your hemoglobin A1C.
Simone:You've probably heard your doctor, doctor talk about some tests.
Simone:I've had people telling me that they're like, I was told some tests and my
Simone:blood sugar is supposed to be, it's supposed to be under a 70, that test.
Simone:I'm like, yes, that's your hemoglobin A1C.
Simone:so they generally, for as a diabetic, they.
Simone:Showing control.
Simone:They want you to be under seven, starting to see some other ways where
Simone:people are just focusing on their time in range of the blood sugar, where
Simone:they're, where they're supposed to be.
Simone:as far as what their doctor has said, they want their blood sugars to be so generally
Simone:before meals, they'll tell you, they want you to be about a hundred to 130.
Simone:If you're checking two hours after a meal is going to, you want to be under one
Simone:80 is generally a good rule of thumb.
Simone:So with that, it's keeping your blood sugar steady and within range, watching
Simone:your blood pressure, keeping your cholesterol good, should hopefully help
Simone:in the fight to prevent complications.
Simone:So basic complications Vision vision problems.
Simone:I want to say that diabetes is in the top up there for causes of blindness.
Simone:and then when I was talking about foot care, you have to
Simone:check your feet every day.
Simone:You, you must check in between your toes, making sure that when you get out of
Simone:the tub or the shower dry between your feet, you want to keep that dry because.
Simone:So many issues happening with like foot officers getting a cut and because of
Simone:your diabetes, you're not getting as much circulation down to your feet.
Simone:And so the wound is not healing as it should.
Simone:So you just want to keep an eye out for that.
Simone:I'm known some, some older diabetics that I've met, who couldn't feel their
Simone:feet and they stepped on something and didn't even know they stepped on a nail
Simone:or a screw or, Thumbtack or anything.
Simone:And it's just like that, that feeling is not there.
Simone:So you definitely, day-to-day keeping up with your Things that
Simone:can affect your blood sugars outside of just what you eat stress.
Simone:So keeping your stress down any way that you can can help you with
Simone:maintaining your blood sugars and in the, in range that you wanted to be
Simone:also illness, when you're sick, you need to be prepared for a sick day.
Simone:So remembering that, if you're sick and your blood sugars are higher,
Simone:that means you need more fluids.
Simone:You may need to have some correction.
Simone:So you should have, if you're on like insulin, your Dr.
Simone:May have you on some type of correction.
Simone:sometimes with type two diabetes, they will have you like, maybe
Simone:you're on a medication and you only have a correction when you're high.
Simone:Things like that.
Simone:So some people do both.
Simone:They, they really don't have to take insulin on a day to day, but they may
Simone:use it for a correction if needed.
Simone:but like if you're just on the pill just on diet.
Simone:So it's going to be making sure, especially if you're vomiting that
Simone:you are maintaining your blood sugar, so maybe you may have to drink
Simone:like some seven notes, something that'll keep your blood sugar up.
Simone:But because you're vomiting, it's easier to keep seven up down than trying to eat
Simone:something that has carbohydrates in it.
Simone:And also, remembering to reach out to your doctor, if you're having any
Simone:type of illness, you're seeing that your blood sugars are off always
Simone:call your healthcare provider.
Simone:And then especially with when you get to a point where a lot of times
Simone:they'll tell you if your blood sugar is over two 50, they'll have you
Simone:check your urine ketones at home.
Simone:If you have ketones.
Simone:That's always a reason to call your doctor.
Simone:So, just, those are kind of the basics of if I was giving you a
Simone:plain simple to the point day-to-day diabetes that's what it would be.
Taylor:man.
Taylor:I, I definitely, didn't get that at all.
Taylor:I, I will say, my dad was helpful and letting me know different
Taylor:things, especially stuff that, they don't always fully tell you in a
Taylor:doctor's office, but he was really good at like explaining stuff to me.
Taylor:one, I do have a question about the exercise thing and it's because I
Taylor:experienced this this morning and I was really confused because I have
Taylor:been using the Oculus quest and an app called supernatural to get my cardio in,
Taylor:because my endocrinologist said four to five times a week, 30 minutes of cardio.
Taylor:And all I hear when someone says that is running.
Taylor:Or some type of elliptical or some type of, a hit workout where I got
Taylor:to do what what's that shit called?
Taylor:Oh, where you gotta like get down on the ground and get back up and jump.
Taylor:And burpees.
Taylor:I two burpees with a passion and I love using these few, excuse me, my knee.
Taylor:And now, my shoulder, but I'm like my knee, I can't handle that.
Taylor:I need low impact.
Taylor:That's not low back.
Taylor:So, that's, that's what it makes me think of.
Taylor:But in reality, it's I need to get my heart rate up and I need to keep
Taylor:it up for a certain amount of time.
Taylor:And Jim has been hard for me, even though I've joined back because it's still
Taylor:like weird, I'm just like, eh and so as much as I like weights, I'm not getting
Taylor:enough of my heart rate up to ensure that I'm I'm, keeping my blood sugars even.
Taylor:So my question this morning, I did my 30 minutes and I was very proud of myself.
Taylor:I was sweating.
Taylor:It was a good workout.
Taylor:They play like all the songs.
Taylor:It was like a Cardi B Nicki Minaj, Megan stallion mix.
Taylor:And I was all for, it felt very powered.
Taylor:And then my CGM alarm is going off throughout the session.
Taylor:Mind you, I checked before I got out of bed.
Taylor:And I know that there's the whole like feet to the floor
Taylor:thing, but like I was in range.
Taylor:I was like 70 to like a hundred.
Taylor:Right.
Taylor:And then after my workout, I was like one 80 something.
Taylor:I even did my finger prick and I haven't pricked my finger and a
Taylor:month and a half since I got my CGM.
Taylor:And I was very happy about that.
Taylor:And it was like two 40 and I'm like, what the hell is going on?
Taylor:I just worked out
Simone:So, and I'm thinking what I'm saying, that is an example
Simone:of you do everything right.
Simone:And your blood sugar decides otherwise, I'm going to tell you this, you can
Simone:do two days in a row and, and you you're like, I did this, I did it.
Simone:I've had those times because usually for me, and you said you had all the
Simone:music, you got me going on me here.
Simone:Like, let me get some exercise, but that usually brings you down
Simone:and it usually will bring you down.
Simone:And it's just, I've had to try different things.
Simone:And for the most part, I can say, we'll say 75, 80% of the time, if I do some
Simone:cardio, like what you described, I'm going to my blood sugar is going to go down.
Simone:And the fact that you said prior to your blood sugar was in range.
Simone:So 70 to 100.
Simone:Cause that's what I was listening for at first, because a lot of people
Simone:don't realize when they're high and they work out or have ketones.
Simone:That's a no-no and then you can go higher because you've
Simone:already started in that range.
Simone:But for you to have started in a normal range, it's just kinda like, it was
Simone:one of those days your body decided, okay, well, let's go up instead of down.
Simone:And did you have a snack, a pre snack or anything before you had worked out?
Taylor:I, the only thing, only thing that I have with some water and
Taylor:actually you reminded me, I'm like, did I take my dreads this morning?
Taylor:Because I was so thrown off?
Taylor:I, I, I it's to the point where, you know, when you, when you pop pills
Taylor:in the morning, especially, it's just like you do it and I drink so much
Taylor:water, then I'm like, did I dunno?
Taylor:So I'll I'll for me to handle off.
Taylor:I just had some water, I checked I used to talk about three times in the
Taylor:morning because I woke up around 4:00 AM.
Taylor:just, I had a weird dream.
Taylor:And so I checked and then I went back to sleep.
Taylor:Then I checked again and that's where I was like one
Taylor:Oh two or something like that.
Taylor:And then as I was getting ready to get up, that's when I was at seven yeah.
Taylor:Seven and it was saying I was going to be dropping.
Taylor:And so I'm like, okay.
Taylor:but usually I don't, I don't feel my lows until I get to like low sixties
Taylor:and it doesn't feel bad for me.
Taylor:And I'm used to working out on an empty stomach anyway.
Taylor:So usually I prefer to work out in the mornings AA.
Taylor:I like to get it over with and be, just for that kind of
Taylor:fat burning zone, if you will.
Taylor:I kind of, I've just never had issues working out on an empty stomach.
Taylor:So just some water which I try to do in the mornings.
Taylor:And then, I, I did my thing and it's, there's no way, it's just body weights
Taylor:because the, the app supernatural, it has gives you like these, I dunno if you've
Taylor:ever done like beat saber or any type of VR stuff, you basically these two bats
Taylor:and they have these balloons that you're hitting kind of to the beat of the music.
Taylor:and then they have these triangles that you do a squat or a lunge, and
Taylor:you might go side to side or whatever.
Taylor:So it's kind of this full body squatting and you're moving your arms around a lot.
Taylor:Yeah.
Taylor:And it's fast.
Taylor:So I'm, I'm S dripped, sweat.
Taylor:It's so much fun.
Taylor:because it's it's game.
Taylor:Like I realized that's my joyful movement.
Taylor:If it's like a game, if I have to get accuracy or beat sabers, the one that.
Taylor:Constantly test is my patients.
Taylor:Cause I like it.
Taylor:But like if I don't hit something right, or you don't have to meet
Taylor:a certain goal, I'm like, all right, I'm gonna do it again.
Taylor:Cause I'm a gamer.
Taylor:So that, that speaks to me.
Taylor:so I was really happy about it cause it's like, it's my thing.
Taylor:And then I have this really cool meditation app that I'll
Taylor:do afterwards that has this really pretty visuals with it.
Taylor:but yeah, my CGM was beeping the like back half of the workout.
Taylor:I'm like, I'm like, okay, maybe it's a low, but I feel okay.
Taylor:So I'm, I'm fine.
Taylor:I'm fine.
Taylor:And then I look and I'm like, this bitch is beeping.
Taylor:Yeah.
Simone:And it never.
Taylor:I will say they have different levels of intensity and this was
Taylor:my first like super high intensity.
Taylor:Like I was struggling like to keep up because the way they had it.
Taylor:So I don't know if that makes a difference.
Taylor:Like other times it's enough to get my heart rate going
Taylor:enough to get me sweating.
Taylor:But this one I'm like moving super it's like going from like, am.
Taylor:light elliptical, or like, a brisk walk to full on spin class.
Taylor:That's probably the only way I could describe it, but.
Simone:Yeah.
Simone:Cause definitely, I mean, you're, you're going to have to try it again.
Simone:It it's always going to be that okay.
Simone:This time this happened.
Simone:Let me see, let me, you, you have to find your pattern.
Simone:It's Navy needs a lot of figuring out things is about the pattern.
Simone:So like for me, I know that if I'm going in to lift weights, my
Simone:blood sugar is going to go up.
Simone:I know that if I'm going in to do cardio and even if like, let's
Simone:just say I'm rocking the steps and I'm just rolling up in steps.
Simone:It depends for me on the amount of time.
Simone:If I only do the steps for 20 minutes, even though I'm sweating and I pushed
Simone:it, I might not see 20, 30 minutes.
Simone:I won't really see a change in my blood sugar.
Simone:Now, if I go an hour, that's when I start to know, okay.
Simone:Either depending on where I was to start, maybe I need a snack before or
Simone:wait till I get to the midpoint and see where I'm at and then have a snack.
Simone:So really it's.
Simone:It's a lot of trial and error when you get with that, when you have diabetes.
Simone:And the hardest part that I feel about it is you do all this trial and error
Simone:and then something, some outside force comes in and changes the whole script.
Simone:So like the things that we didn't discuss in basic diabetes training,
Simone:I mean, monthly menstrual cycles for women can change their blood sugars.
Simone:a just things that I I've heard people say, Oh, I used to be able to eat this.
Simone:And now I can't.
Simone:And it's kind of like, you really don't know why.
Simone:So I feel, I felt like trial and error era never ends.
Simone:It just keeps going.
Simone:It's like, okay, what is this?
Simone:How is this affecting me?
Simone:This.
Simone:Time at this age, I know for me, hidden 35, so many things
Simone:changed and I'm like, Whoa, wait.
Simone:I just, I went up a year in age, but compared to my 20 year old
Simone:diabetes and my 35 year old diabetes.
Simone:So it's interesting to see the difference in things.
Simone:And it could be the day-to-day things like, because I have diabetes, it
Simone:doesn't mean I can't drink alcohol.
Simone:I drink, I enjoy my twenties being a diabetic, then stop me.
Simone:But I trial and error.
Simone:What works for me?
Simone:What doesn't work for me.
Simone:And now at 35 I've I've had to.
Simone:Okay, well now it's changed a little bit.
Simone:I never really had the monthly, like hormone changes for me.
Simone:I don't see that much difference in my blood sugars, but everybody
Simone:is different, so different.
Simone:And it's just what works for you may not work for the next person and vice versa.
Taylor:Yeah, I think that's something that I've been playing around with
Taylor:because sometimes I've been doing like early mid day, afternoon workouts on it
Taylor:because I'm like, all right, let me get some stuff knocked out in the mornings.
Taylor:and then, around one, two o'clock, I'll either go take a walk with my dogs or I'll
Taylor:hop on my Oculus and do some stuff because I'm like, I can give this 30 minutes.
Taylor:It really does fly by.
Taylor:and there's this star Wars game that I'm legit going to buy it.
Taylor:They have like three different episodes and you're like
Taylor:Darth Vader's minion person.
Taylor:And.
Taylor:Yeah, who doesn't want to be a Jedi Knight, like come on.
Taylor:Like they even give you the force and there anyways,
Taylor:I'm nerding out because yes.
Taylor:So, finding the thing that like, Oh my God, this speaks to my soul.
Taylor:This is what helps me move is awesome.
Taylor:Even when we had like an Oculus night at my partner's house, like I need to
Taylor:get back in the gym, like, I'm tired.
Taylor:Like I'm so wedded, like, yeah.
Taylor:So it's like, cool.
Taylor:But you know, figuring, like you said, it's trial and error of
Taylor:like, okay, what times of day?
Taylor:maybe better for me.
Taylor:Like maybe I don't need to work on in the morning.
Taylor:Maybe it's that, early afternoon that, that really flows well with me because my
Taylor:body is still kind of going through its wake up process and I need to get some
Taylor:breakfast in me and it's, it's, if I do go to the gym, it's probably the time where
Taylor:most people aren't there because they're probably off their lunch break already.
Taylor:And there's, back at work, so trying to figure out these different ways.
Taylor:I really wish my apartment would just open up our freaking gym, but you know,
Taylor:Finding these different ways to test.
Taylor:And that's why I will say I love my CGM and I really, really, really
Taylor:wish that they were more widely available to diabetics without
Taylor:having to wait through going through the finger finger pricking stage.
Taylor:because it just, you just don't get the same value of information
Taylor:with a normal, finger glucose meter than you do with the constant one.
Taylor:And that is really helped me out because I'm seeing, okay, I was having that crazy.
Taylor:What is it?
Taylor:The smoky effect where I go stupid low, and I'm woken up at three, three
Taylor:in the morning, like what the hell?
Taylor:And most of the time I haven't needed to get a snack really
Taylor:one time I was like, Oh shit.
Taylor:If I don't get a snack, me and Oreos.
Taylor:Yes.
Taylor:It was just what I had to do.
Taylor:And then, the feet to the floor thing, I mean, I know there's a.
Taylor:The Dawn phenomenon kind of mixed within that, but lately I've been even.
Taylor:And so then I literally get up and I start walking and I scan and I'm like, I went
Taylor:from one Oh two to one 30, what the hell?
Taylor:Like, so it's just that constant trying to understand what your body is doing.
Taylor:And I wish we could have our own episodes of like, have you ever seen
Taylor:that show sells at work on Netflix?
Taylor:I freaking love that show.
Taylor:It is the key.
Taylor:I've watched both in English and Japanese.
Taylor:I love it that much.
Taylor:because I feel like it's, it's the perfect way to portray, how your body works.
Taylor:And every time they're like, Oh, I need to stop and get some glucose.
Taylor:I'm like, like, but I wish, I wish it would explain.
Taylor:The trauma that happened when they had to get the blood transfusion.
Taylor:Like, I wish they would explain like, like, did he get shot?
Taylor:Like what happened?
Taylor:Like what happened to the box?
Taylor:Why is, why is that was like the scariest part for me, I was like,
Taylor:shit is getting real in this show.
Taylor:What happened?
Taylor:Somebody explained it to me, but I hope they do more of that
Taylor:and take on, different things.
Taylor:Cause the cancer episode was really interesting because, if we could
Taylor:see our bodies like that, I'm like, man, what's going on on the
Taylor:inside, it would be really cool.
Taylor:So I could be like, Hey blood cells, the fuck is going on.
Taylor:All right.
Taylor:Can you tell me what's going on?
Taylor:Hey can you go holler it, go, go down to the pancreas and hollered insulin and
Taylor:be like, yo, you're late for the party.
Taylor:I need you to let
Simone:Are you
Taylor:so I can get down.
Taylor:Cause I'm trying to work out for you, can y'all can we have a Alto?
Taylor:Can we have a team huddle real quick?
Taylor:And we discussed.
Taylor:Why you are doing this to me right now.
Taylor:Like, I really wish I could just have a cell that work meeting where like
Taylor:everybody just, I have this big screen projection throughout my entire body.
Taylor:And I'm like, we need to have a conversation about these blood sugar lows.
Simone:I'll come to that?
Simone:Cause I feel like security security led my insulate.
Simone:Why are you holding my, why are you holding my insulin at the door?
Simone:Please land my insulating.
Taylor:the list fam.
Simone:They've been on the lave, never come off.
Simone:They are the first person on his list.
Simone:Now you have the diabetes, you have blurry vision.
Simone:Let's talk about this because you all know my insulin.
Simone:So yes, I totally totally understand.
Simone:I love that show.
Simone:I miss the cancer word, but.
Taylor:Oh yeah.
Taylor:That's, that's the one that led to, to the big body trauma, but that it's like
Taylor:one of the, like second to last, like one of those last couple of episodes,
Taylor:but I really do hope I need to look that up and see if Netflix are going to renew
Taylor:it, because I think it is a beautiful way to explain everything going on in your
Taylor:body and, being able to, I mean, can you imagine how awesome that is for kids?
Taylor:I mean, we grew up with some great animate, right?
Taylor:And now you're getting this, anime has always been a great way to give
Taylor:you this underlining message of learning something, and cells at work.
Taylor:I feel like just could open so many doors and so many eyes as to what
Taylor:exactly is happening inside of your body when certain things like diabetes,
Taylor:TCOs Crohn's disease, Lyme disease.
Taylor:I don't know.
Taylor:There's, there's so many things that could tell
Simone:Yeah.
Taylor:Man, if we could just animate this, how many more people would
Taylor:be educated and understanding this, and, and maybe even bringing in the
Taylor:fact that like, yeah, male, female, whole nother world render, you know
Taylor:of, of stuff that could take place.
Taylor:so I'm, I'm not now I'm going to have to look up, am gonna have to
Taylor:look up to see if they're going to come out with another season.
Taylor:And then if they don't like find the petition of why they need to keep
Taylor:doing it and then be now, I feel like I'm going to rewatch the whole
Taylor:season because it's such a good show.
Taylor:If you've not seen selves at work.
Taylor:It's so great.
Taylor:It's so great.
Taylor:Like, we'll read so little white blood cell.
Taylor:They're just,
Simone:Yep.
Taylor:that's cute anyways.
Simone:The adults need that too.
Simone:Like adults, I feel like a lot of times with when you're talking to
Simone:your medical providers, they use all of this medical terminology.
Simone:People don't understand, they're afraid to ask, what is that?
Simone:What does that mean?
Simone:And so I have a cousin, she tells me that I am the most medical nonmedical
Simone:nurse that she knows because I'm just like, I don't want to use that term.
Simone:I just want to say what it is.
Simone:I don't need to use the medical term.
Simone:I don't need to, I know it's the three piece, but I just want
Simone:to say you're drinking a lot.
Simone:You're going to the bathroom a lot.
Simone:You're eating a lot because when I say polyuria, polydipsia, polyphagia, people
Simone:are like, Crickey and they will ask me, what, what is that they don't ask.
Simone:And then when you, I found that when you say, okay, do you have any questions?
Simone:A lot of times people say no, because they don't know what to ask.
Simone:They don't know what you just said.
Simone:What did you say?
Simone:Say it again.
Simone:So that's a part of me stepping out into this space to be able to teach things
Simone:and educated and give you real life.
Simone:This is what I go through.
Simone:This is not just, Oh, on paper.
Simone:It looks great.
Simone:Sometimes it does.
Simone:Sometimes it doesn't, I'm not perfect.
Simone:Sometimes I use the same syringe more than one, like things like that.
Taylor:So many lances that haven't been used because why would I
Taylor:change it every day, non to that?
Taylor:Now that I've got to see doom, I just stare at the box.
Taylor:Like just make some maracas out of these cars.
Taylor:Just
Simone:Oh, I have, so I have boxes of stuff.
Simone:I'm a tap on my boxes of supplies.
Simone:Like, Oh, here we go.
Simone:I don't know what I'm supposed to do.
Taylor:that, that quarantine box thing where the bunch of our diabetic friends
Taylor:and we're just all like shaking our different lances to be, cause we don't,
Taylor:we have so many that would be fun.
Taylor:We might need to do that.
Taylor:well I would love to know.
Taylor:I mean, you've given so much insight and I'm so grateful for
Taylor:your expertise and things and by the way, guys, general advice here.
Taylor:All right.
Taylor:So make sure you talk with your medical professionals before you go do anything.
Taylor:but I, I would love to just take a moment to talk about your your platform,
Taylor:diabetes Bay, what it stands for and, and where you want to take this.
Taylor:Cause I know you're wanting to kind of step out of the the hospital, the medical
Taylor:room, and do more on the online space.
Taylor:And I would love for people to hear what you're up to you and how you can better
Taylor:help them with their diabetic needs.
Taylor:outside of a.
Taylor:Exam room.
Taylor:There you go.
Taylor:I was like, what's the word?
Simone:Okay.
Simone:So diabetes Bay Bay stands for believing in you advocating for
Simone:you and empowering through you.
Simone:I feel like a lot of people don't realize there is so much support out there.
Simone:the internet has just opened up a world for us that wasn't there
Simone:when I was diagnosed as a diabetic.
Simone:And it's, it's honestly hard, you see the doctor, he goes, if you have, if
Simone:you have an endocrinologist, you should be seeing them every three months.
Simone:Some people only go to their regular primary care doctor, which
Simone:could be six months to a year.
Simone:So that in between time.
Simone:You need help.
Simone:You don't want to feel like you have to call the doctor
Simone:every day or stuff is going on.
Simone:And so the reason I started diabetes Bay is because I feel like
Simone:a lot of people out there don't know where to go for that help.
Simone:They need the help.
Simone:they're confused.
Simone:They feel alone, they're like, okay, how do I work this for me?
Simone:When I was, before I became a nurse, when I went to get my first insulin
Simone:pump, I remember the doctor's office.
Simone:They handed me three folders and they said, go home and choose one.
Simone:I had no idea.
Simone:So I picked the one that had no Tubi it looks good.
Simone:That's how with the Omni pod I'm like, why would I want to be, let me
Simone:go with this one only makes sense.
Simone:I didn't really know.
Simone:I mean, trying to sit there and read that information and
Simone:understand the ins and outs.
Simone:It's white.
Simone:Things like YouTube and people's videos on YouTube have become such a great
Simone:tool because it gives, it would have given me the chance to go on there and
Simone:really see, okay, well maybe I don't want this one without the tubing.
Simone:So what I would like to do with this with my business is, education
Simone:educating, especially people of color.
Simone:I feel that a lot of times, people of color there is it's a wealth
Simone:gap, but there's also a gap in medical and not understanding or
Simone:not trusting the medical providers.
Simone:I know how it feels to want somebody that looks like me, but
Simone:then also to have somebody that's dealing with the same thing as me.
Simone:So I want to be that person.
Simone:For any, and everybody that needs that help, I meet people all the time.
Simone:They're like my grandmother, my grandfather has diabetes.
Simone:I don't, I don't know which type it is.
Simone:We need to start talking about these things, family history, how
Simone:that could potentially affect you, even though, you're like I'm young.
Simone:I might know that doesn't mean that you can't one day come up with
Simone:diabetes in your twenties or thirties.
Simone:I also want to focus on with type one diabetes.
Simone:It used to be called juvenile diabetes.
Simone:And they're, I mean, I still see that name somewhere, but there are so many adults
Simone:being diagnosed with type one diabetes, and I've talked to some recently and they
Simone:even said, I didn't get any education.
Simone:I went to the doctor, they gave me this.
Simone:And like you said, they gave me some pamphlets.
Simone:They said, call this person I did, or I didn't, nobody checked on it.
Simone:And nobody said anything.
Simone:So I just want to help people, the underserved people of color, people that
Simone:aren't getting, the things that they need.
Simone:And I want to be able to do it and say it in my way, the way that they'll
Simone:understand, understanding how they understand how they talk, are older, my
Simone:grandparents, Oh, you got that sugar.
Simone:That's just that shook.
Simone:So knowing what that means, there are still people that don't even, I
Simone:tell somebody that they were, like, she said, I said, that's diabetes.
Simone:That's what they call it, the sugar.
Simone:Right.
Simone:So I understand, I know exactly what you're saying.
Simone:and just, finding other ways to help them and say, okay, I know you, you love to
Simone:eat this, but let me figure out a way to find a great place for it, to still be
Simone:in your diet, but maybe not every day.
Simone:So that's the goal of diabetes Bay.
Taylor:Man.
Taylor:That's, that's super awesome.
Taylor:And I think that's one thing I love about what I'm doing now is, I thought
Taylor:that my mission was going to be to educate in a way of like, let's
Taylor:do college or something like that.
Taylor:And I'm like, no, I'm, I've always been a glue between people.
Taylor:I'm always a person trying to like bring groups of friends together.
Taylor:Like I love just this connection of like, You know this network of, okay.
Taylor:I told you earlier, Hey, you need somebody to talk to you about your, your child.
Taylor:Who's, been recently diagnosed, I've got a friend for that.
Taylor:She literally works with kids all the time and she's a type
Taylor:one, she can understand that.
Taylor:Or, Hey, I didn't get the education.
Taylor:And you said more.
Taylor:And just this hour that had, I known that six years ago, who knows now, obviously I
Taylor:was meant to be on this path for a reason.
Taylor:I would, we wouldn't be sitting here if I wasn't.
Taylor:So I won't, I won't knock not having it, but even still just recognizing
Taylor:the lack of access, especially for, our communities of color.
Taylor:And, and like, I think you said it perfectly, like not trusting
Taylor:the providers, there's so many in our community where it's
Taylor:like, we didn't go to the doctor.
Taylor:Or we couldn't go to the doctor because we didn't have insurance or whatever.
Taylor:It may be something prevented us from going.
Taylor:And when you are treated more like a number than you are a person it
Taylor:makes it very difficult to feel like, okay, I'm going to go in here and do
Taylor:something versus I'm going to go in here.
Taylor:They're going to give me a bunch of drugs and hope for the best, and us having
Taylor:to take things into our own hands is it's, it's really hurting our community
Taylor:because we no longer know what we should trust and it should be equal parts.
Taylor:Go get the professional opinion, right.
Taylor:Be willing to speak up for yourself.
Taylor:I refuse to allow any of my appointments to be a five minute
Taylor:treat the assistance symptoms.
Taylor:You're going to sit here and you're going to listen to me.
Taylor:And if I don't agree with what you're saying, I'm going to tell you, and I need
Taylor:us to have a dialogue on how we can make this work, because it is a partnership.
Taylor:if you want to just write scripts for people like.
Taylor:You in the wrong business, the, the what is it?
Taylor:The doctor's oath touches on.
Taylor:I shall write a bunch of prescriptions, put you on a bunch of
Taylor:medication to keep my pockets line.
Taylor:Right.
Taylor:so it's just one of those things where like, we have to educate
Taylor:ourselves on how to interact with our medical professionals.
Taylor:We have to educate ourselves in the fact of whatever it is we're going through.
Taylor:We need to research the medications we're on.
Taylor:We need to understand what options are out there.
Taylor:We need to seek community that can provide us with insights and
Taylor:perspective, and then make our own informed decision to use your brains.
Taylor:People.
Taylor:I love you, but please use your brains.
Taylor:Okay.
Taylor:Use your brains to make informed decisions.
Taylor:Don't just go with what everybody else says, because that's how
Taylor:we're kind of in this phase.
Taylor:Now, cookie cutter solutions when we are all very beautifully.
Taylor:So that's my
Simone:Oh, you made me think about the sentiment to me.
Taylor:listen to the episode with me and Mike, and we talk
Taylor:about that damn city challenge.
Simone:I gotta listen to it.
Taylor:Cause that was hilarious.
Taylor:Like, no, like y'all no amount of sediment is going to save us from diabetes.
Simone:I've heard it all.
Simone:I've heard it all.
Simone:And I feel like this recently, yes.
Simone:Having this think it mind say, I'm like, I know there's a lot of
Simone:things you can do and maybe yes.
Simone:You'll, you'll take have to take less insulin or just, I feel like a lot of
Simone:times there's so much focus on weight and I meet people that aren't even
Simone:overweight and have type two diabetes.
Simone:Where do they have?
Simone:Where are they supposed to lose the weight from?
Taylor:right,
Simone:So it it's.
Simone:I totally understand.
Simone:And this is why I am here.
Simone:Yeah.
Taylor:man.
Taylor:I'm so glad you're here.
Taylor:well speaking of you being here, how can people.
Taylor:Get connected with you.
Taylor:Cause I clearly know how to get connected with you, but for those
Taylor:who don't, how can they reach you?
Taylor:How can they work with you?
Taylor:If they have questions, just want to chat things out.
Taylor:how can they get in touch to make sure that they're keeping up with
Taylor:all the great things you're doing?
Simone:Yeah.
Simone:So my Instagram is diabetes Bay.
Simone:I am actually working on building my website, so it's under construction,
Simone:but right now it is a landing page.
Simone:It's diabetes bay.com.
Simone:And you can put in your email address, you can also even
Simone:book a discovery call with me.
Simone:So I have that link on diabetes, bay.com as well as.
Simone:The link is on my Instagram profile for diabetes Bay.
Simone:I am looking for some diabetics who would love to do discovery
Simone:calls with me this month of April.
Simone:and just, talk about what are your pain points, what areas do you need help with?
Simone:So that way I can focus on how to build my program around the biggest pain points
Simone:that people are saying that they have.
Simone:I am also on clubhouse.
Simone:I'm working with one lady.
Simone:She has a diabetic, it is supposed to be like a parents and caregivers trying
Simone:to build that up, so like this week we do usually do Tuesday nights at 7:00
Simone:PM central time, this upcoming week.
Simone:We're gonna talk about Oh, man, what is Oh, stress and burnout.
Simone:And then the on two-thirds are Tuesdays on Thursdays and Saturdays.
Simone:I do a group and I was called diabetes connection.
Simone:We talk about everything in there.
Simone:So this past Thursday, we talked about alcohol and diabetes.
Taylor:I missed that one.
Simone:tonight.
Simone:Yes.
Simone:And I gave out my favorite mixer.
Simone:I'm like, Hey, don't think I'm an alcoholic, but diet Chick-fil-A lemonade
Simone:keeps me from having to take insulin when I'm mixing it with drinks with alcohol.
Simone:So, definitely was a fun room.
Simone:tonight we're talking about foot care.
Simone:And so by the time you're hearing this or listening right now, I can't
Simone:tell you what our topic will be, but usually we just, find what's going on
Simone:with people or do people have the most questions about, and we picked two
Simone:great topics to speak on each week.
Taylor:I'm excited.
Taylor:I there's so many, it's so hard because I could be on clubhouse all day.
Taylor:And I know everybody talks about like, it's such a time
Taylor:suck because I can't help it.
Taylor:I want to just creep and listen, and then I'll hop in a room and I'm so grateful for
Taylor:those who asked me, don't get me wrong.
Taylor:But then like come up and speak.
Taylor:And I'm like, Do I ignore it or do I go speak?
Taylor:And it's probably cause I just like to hear myself talk sometimes, but
Taylor:I should save that for the pocket.
Taylor:That's the, but so many great rooms.
Taylor:Yeah.
Simone:Every time, like, wait, I don't want to speak.
Simone:I just wanted to listen.
Taylor:Well, I, I, I just, I just, there's no option that well I've
Taylor:seen people change their picture that says I'm just listening.
Taylor:Right.
Taylor:And so I feel like I need to create a little canvas thing where like
Taylor:I can swap that out on those days.
Taylor:because it's.
Taylor:It really is a time suck and it's beautiful to hear stories and be,
Taylor:be able to go in these rooms and kind of get perspective on things.
Taylor:but at the same time, you just feel that called to like represent
Taylor:your perspective at the same time.
Taylor:So you want to get up there.
Taylor:And a lot of the rooms that I ended up in are more, mostly type one.
Taylor:So I feel like as the sole type two, I need to go say something cause it's
Taylor:like, Hey, I'm here to, but I'm loving that diabetic topics and health topics
Taylor:are picking up more in clubhouse.
Taylor:I know part of it is their, their algorithm, they're still working
Taylor:it out, but I, you and, and several other people I've been connected with.
Taylor:and it, it's almost like, let's see if you all are doing Tuesdays, Thursdays
Taylor:and Saturdays Mike's room is on Mondays.
Taylor:It's like already four times a week.
Taylor:Right.
Taylor:And I'm like, If I start a room, I'm going to have to do mine on like
Taylor:Wednesdays or something like that.
Taylor:Conflicted everybody.
Taylor:there's so many people doing great rooms, so, I am excited to see what you do.
Taylor:I will gladly ensure that people know to hit you up to let you know what,
Taylor:what the diabetic community needs.
Taylor:Please keep doing what you're doing.
Taylor:Your contribution is so great.
Taylor:so the last couple of questions, and I swear I will let you get back to your day.
Taylor:is what is one piece of advice that you would give a newly diagnosed?
Taylor:Yeah,
Simone:Okay.
Simone:while I think about that, I'm going to say, thank you for having me today.
Simone:I really love your space.
Simone:It is dynamic.
Simone:I'm excited for season three and all of the other guests that
Simone:you're going to have on here.
Simone:So I just want to say thank you for having that diabetes stationary room that
Simone:day, because it definitely connected us.
Simone:And I pray that this is a lifelong cooler.
Simone:I can't even say the word connection.
Simone:So I'm just, thank you SIS, because God put us together.
Simone:I'm like, she's my sister, my diabetes sister.
Simone:I love it.
Simone:So my one piece of advice, because when I was diagnosed in 1996, major
Simone:in high school, I wasn't even in high school yet, but when I was
Simone:in ninth grade, I had a pager.
Simone:There were not cell phones.
Simone:There was not YouTube, Instagram, Facebook.
Simone:I mean, Facebook came out.
Simone:I was in college, I think because you had to have a college email address to have
Simone:a Facebook account when it first started.
Simone:So my one piece of advice would be, find, find support, like
Simone:when you're initially diagnosed.
Simone:it's hard.
Simone:It is.
Simone:I felt like is my life over?
Simone:What does this mean?
Simone:I was 13.
Simone:I'm like, what, what?
Simone:Wait.
Simone:am I going to be okay?
Simone:Can I never eat sugar again?
Simone:I mean, all of those things that you see here, all of those myths that
Simone:are out there, that's the only thing that I really knew about diabetes.
Simone:And so I watched, my grandparents, my grandma with type two, but I was
Simone:like, Oh my gosh, I ate too much sugar.
Simone:I remember thinking that because that's what they always say, Oh, you ate too
Simone:much sugar until I'm like, mom, I'm sorry.
Simone:I take it back.
Simone:I don't, I don't want to have this.
Simone:I don't want to give myself a shot.
Simone:So you honestly need that support.
Simone:And because there are apps and websites and social media and so
Simone:many there's if you, even with COVID.
Simone:There are still local support groups that maybe they're having a zoom
Simone:meeting and maybe once restrictions live, you can go face to face if
Simone:you want to meet other diabetics.
Simone:there are things like beyond type one has a pen pal program it's
Simone:called snip the snail mail club.
Simone:And I actually just got a new pin pal she's in Brazil with
Simone:type one diabetes as well.
Simone:So just finding a sub a really good support system to have people to talk
Simone:to somebody, to ask questions to you're going to have to kind of weed out
Simone:because you'll, you'll get some answers.
Simone:Like we were talking about the cinnamon and all sorts of things, but you know,
Simone:there's a wealth of information out there and it's really easy to find
Simone:great support groups and have somebody that knows what you're going through
Simone:and they're going through it as well.
Taylor:Yeah.
Taylor:Yeah, absolutely.
Taylor:I think that that's been a common theme is this just find the community we are
Taylor:truly here to support each and every one of you, no matter what type because we
Taylor:understand it is different and it is a unique journey for each individual, but
Taylor:it does not mean you have to do it alone.
Taylor:so absolutely Bravo on that.
Taylor:Well, my blood sugar sister from another Mister.
Taylor:I have had so much fun with this conversation and with just the
Taylor:amount of education and wealth of knowledge that you've given us.
Taylor:So thank you again for your time, your energy and all of the efforts that
Taylor:you were putting out into the world for our people and for those who are
Taylor:allies to us it is greatly appreciated.
Taylor:Keep doing what you're doing.
Taylor:I'm constantly going to be reading for you.
Taylor:So, obviously this is not the last time I will be talking to you, but we'll
Taylor:hopefully be able to, to work in a, a follow-up in later seasons to see where
Taylor:you're at and how things are going.
Taylor:definitely make sure that you follow Simone at diabetes Bay and
Taylor:check out everything that she's doing on Instagram clubhouse.
Taylor:And don't forget to hit her up for those discovery calls her help you.
Taylor:Alright, we'll catch you guys next time.
Taylor:Man.
Taylor:I was serious about cells at work, doing a diabetes version.
Taylor:And any version I'm gonna, I'm seriously gonna look up to see if
Taylor:they're doing a season two and if not, like start a petition that they
Taylor:should, because that's a great show.
Taylor:If you haven't watched it, it's a great show.
Taylor:But aside from that, I honestly, we could have talked for
Taylor:hours similar to Britt Olson.
Taylor:Like she is one of those people that we can literally talk for hours and she's
Taylor:so down and ready to serve the community.
Taylor:And I just love her spirit and wanting to just.
Taylor:Be as helpful as possible and provide as much information and being willing
Taylor:to connect with others and continue this life of not only being a diabetic
Taylor:and thriving as one, but ensuring that others, including allies are
Taylor:familiar with how our lives go as well.
Taylor:So.
Taylor:Thank you again, Simone.
Taylor:And I just am so grateful for your presence in everything
Taylor:that you have provided.
Taylor:Not only to the show, but to me and everybody else out there.
Taylor:So thank you guys for your time.
Taylor:I will catch you next week on Tuesday for another episode of
Taylor:hindsight thoughts until then.
Taylor:I hope you have a good week.
Taylor:Thank you for your time and energy.