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Then we get into, once shopping has enough data and I have enough
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:data, I pretty much have all the data
I need to launch a search campaign.
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:I have all the keywords I want to target.
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:I have all the keywords I want to
include in my descriptions, in like my
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:product descriptions, and I have all the
keywords that I want to, insertions for.
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:did keyword insertions like last week
and half of the and everyone that I did
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:keyword insertion for went for portrax
and like for this product here all these
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:keywords are majorly based off of What was
converting in shop or what's converting
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:in this campaign like these and then we
have keyword insertions for Basically
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:terminologies that was consistent like
fat burners for I don't know women fat
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:burners for men Fat burners for weight
loss was like it was popping up a lot or
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:weight loss was just more like weight loss
Was a consistent term across the board
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:that was coming up a lot in converting
paths of converting search term So I added
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:that right Then these, well, I rewrote
all these as well to account for, and
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:I just haven't gotten it approved yet.
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:But all these have been rewritten
to account for those converting
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:keywords of which people like.
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:So we show up, get better scores.
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:So these went from like a
good port to an excellent.
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:So that's pretty cool here.
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:So how do I set this up?
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:The setup guys, I like simple structures.
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:Simple structures, and leaving them alone.
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:The setup for here is
literally their products.
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:They have bundles and then
they have singular products.
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:They didn't want to run bundles on this.
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:So we have single product ad groups
sending them to the product pages
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:stack at a tcpa With Max Convergence
TCPA and it's been left alone forever.
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:I think the recent changes we
talked about last week was where
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:we added like 2, 000 keywords.
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:So now it's in the learning phase again.
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:This was like maybe 200 first.
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:So we added like a lot of
keywords recently and we're
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:using TCPA as like a control.
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:Over here to mitigate it so it doesn't
go crazy, but if we go into the
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:early days of this campaign, whatever
that is, I honestly don't remember
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:that you can see that it starts.
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:It gets better.
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:It's always going to hit a wall.
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:You guys got to remember.
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:It's always going to hit a wall,
the upwards trend over the span of a
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:long, a long, a long, it started in
whatever December and till it took a
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:whole month for it to hit its peak.
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:consistent almost right?
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:And I didn't touch this
campaign during this time.
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:Neeraj is here.
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:Neeraj.
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:How much did we touch this
campaign after it was launched?
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:we didn't touch this campaign at all.
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:During this time, the last change
we made was literally two weeks ago.
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week of May and first week of June,
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:when we were making all these changes.
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:So I've left that alone completely
and untouched on a TCPA that
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:I've seen deemed worthy of it.
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:But that's that.
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:Any questions on this?
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:You even changed TCPA goals?
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:I left all the complicated things.
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:I got it.
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:So once you're starting like the
sales campaign, after getting the
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:sales from the standard shopping.
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:So what, what window you are going to have
with TCP, it's going to be a broader or
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:just, around your account level goals?
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:at least set it and forget it.
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:Right.
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:And then I just wait.
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:Cause it's hits a wall within terms of
what I can spend into it, but like it did
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:here, what you're seeing is basically this
over here is where we're staying steady.
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:Everyone sees that, right?
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:But that's just the ratio and spend
cost and what I can do with it.
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:But whatever that wall is, Google
will find it for you, right?
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:But here's what's interesting
about TCP and BroadMatch.
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:this is actually kind of cool,
keyword search term, search keywords.
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:Okay.
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:What do you see converting pretty much
as one of the best ones, supplements?
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:It's a single word and it's
converting at a better rate than.
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:Think supplement fat burner.
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:I didn't specify the tag for fat
burn right weight loss supplements
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:weight loss supplements It's not
very specific fat burn or fat loss
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:Libido booster diet supplements like
none of these are specific to the
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:product or anything It's just very,
very broad terms and a TCPA on it.
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:Are people landing on the product page?
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remember, these are broad.
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keywords before and after.
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weight loss supplement might end up on,
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getting a new customer.
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:Sometimes you want to be, sometimes it's
better to be more specific and phrase
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:match, but that's client to client and the
amount of data you have in the account.
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:Would you increase the TCPA now to
increase the span in this campaign?
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:So the problem is I did increase, we're
at the TCPA of cold traffic that he's
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then yes, I would have.
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PIDs isn't actually 60.
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for a new customer, what it's saying
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200 according to backend data.
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:Because the problem with search,
what I've noticed is that it's
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:People like clicking on search ads more
than they like clicking on shopping ads.
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:I'm one of those people, I
always click like the first five
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never click the shopping link.
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later when I'm like all pretty much
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:ready to buy, anybody else do that?
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of multiple touch points
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:I know Colby is guilty of it too, Colby.
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kind of network in my opinion.
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:It works well with cold too, but
it's, I've seen it been, I've
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customer path than an actual one click
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:purchase kind of situation where people
like to click on it multiple times.
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:Like I'm one of those people that
will just search ads all the time.
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let's just say I'm looking, searching
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:weight loss supplements, right?
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:And then I see their shopping ad, right?
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:Who else does that?
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:How many of you actually click the
shopping ads over the search ads?
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:Nobody runs that in Nicaragua,
so Vivek is like, not me.
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:That's just right.
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:That's fine.
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:But yeah, I do that too.
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a grocery thing, then I click on
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:So that was search.
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:What else?
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:that's basically hierarchy.
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:Then I go into search.
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:TURTLE.
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:I'm doing pretty good.
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:It's getting better.
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:DOT.
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:It's dead now.
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:YouTube.
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:I personally like the
same setup per product.
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the nature of the client, this one
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:has to be set up per individuals.
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:That's my shopping campaigns
too, because it's just, he spends
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:money on certain products on some
certain scenario or situation.
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:So we need more control of it,
but I personally like these set
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:up where it's like, look at this.
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:It went up, up, up, up, up,
and then it went down because I
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targeting as a bad test.
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:I'm still testing it, but so
far everyone that's tried it.
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test it for a little longer and see
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is also an optimized targeting and
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:this is dead, but that's the moral
of the story is just set it up.
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:Forget it.
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:Like this one.
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:Oh, how do I get my audiences for these?
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:I'll get my audience for
these that I know will work.
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:Just go ahead.
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:Yes.
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:It's a lot easier.
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:So remember how it was like,
how we started shopping to
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:Using that keyword data, we created search
campaigns, so we know what campaigns work.
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:It's the same thought process.
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:Use data that we know works.
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:So, we had shopping campaigns that...
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:Also had a brand campaign, correct?
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:those brands, would it be believable
if I said those brands, the people
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base, there would be in specific
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:audiences in terms of consistency.
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for my audiences that I want to target.
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insights, go to the audiences.
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go hunting for audiences.
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:I know exactly which audiences to target.
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add all audiences as observations
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:So that was before Google
started giving us these insights.
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:Like if I go into search now
like for cold, let's just see it
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:should give me audiences here too.
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:All my audiences are right here.
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:The ones that work, right?
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:You don't need to think about it.
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:Just go for the ones that work.
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:And I think, I don't know
if it goes that specific.
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:Yeah, it doesn't go that specific.
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:But it still gives you a general vicinity
of what the audience for your product is.
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:Don't overthink it, right?
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:So we have, one we have, so
now we have a keyword audience.
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work for what product.
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:Right.
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:And now we have audience, well in market
and affiniate audience that we don't work
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:for their business yet to add groups that
you know, are going to work right there.
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:Given you have good creatives.
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:Does that make sense?
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:That makes sense.
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:And if we want to target similar
businesses, we can have the URLs
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:from the options accessible.
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:I mean, I don't like doing that.
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:I just feel like these audiences
are big enough, like, I don't
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:know why people do that, honestly,
because these audiences are how big?
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:Affinity?
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:Six.
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:I don't know.
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:Very big.
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:They're like billions, millions of people.
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:You're not going to run out
of people to target there.
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:YouTube works well with
larger audiences as well.
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:Just Google in general.
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:If you tie it up into like, just focus
on these, it kind of struggles more.
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:But that's my short summary of how
to, how I transitioned from the
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:start phase to skill to different
campaigns in larger accounts.
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:Questions, concerns, comments,
anybody actually like that?
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:Was that useful?
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:Yes, thank you for sharing.
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:I liked it.
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:And it was useful.
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:Thanks, Colby.
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:See Glenn, that's how you hype people up.
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:You're amazing.
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:You're one of the greatest
teachers I've ever, ever had the
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:experience to listen to someone.
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:That's why I love university.
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:We're very privileged.
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:Yes.
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:Each day, I think, thank God for them.
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:Thanks, man.
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:I try.
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:Um, The only thing, if you've got a
brand new campaign and we don't have
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:a lot of insights inside Google, you
can actually go into analytics and
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:do a search for analytics audience.
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:I did that too.
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:Like I used to do that, but the analytics
audience and the Google audiences are
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:very different in terms of overall, like
some of them are way off, but what you
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:can do is if you're looking for, okay.
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:All we need is one audience.
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:So if you went into analytics, looked
at audiences and sought by 12 months
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:and look for audiences that have high
conversion rates, like 2%, 3 percent
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:conversion rate, minimum 1000 impressions.
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:And you really, if you don't have any
data, you can find something in analytics.
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:You'll find a high converting in market
audiences are probably The best intent
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:type audiences other than keyword custom
intent audiences, but that's most of
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:the stuff you will the signals we'll see
inside google adwords Anyway, guys the
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:signals you got to think of it this way
There's millions and billions of people
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:for in each of these audiences each of
these keywords signals everywhere, right?
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:It's just a matter of giving google
a starting direction like start here.
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:It's not gonna stay there Obviously,
it's always going to explore more but
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:it's like start here Kind of situation.
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:Does that make sense?
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:Who else has questions?
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:Everyone's just a genius.
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:I had one.
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:What's up Colby?
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:Your honor.
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:Okay.
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:I am a liker of grouping things together.
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:I've had standard shopping campaigns, like
not work, I haven't run them individual.
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:Like I liked the idea of putting them
individual because then you can like
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:turn the dials and things are going well.
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:But I've also liked grouping them
together, but is it best, say, if we're
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:doing your method here, like, at all
costs, we want to basically not group
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:them together if we don't have to, like,
don't mix, like, top 20 percent versus,
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:like, worst 80 percent or something into
the strategy that, like, Should that
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:just be a separate strategy altogether?
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:That's like a completely
different strategy.
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:I just like keeping them all together.
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:Yes, there are times where like one
product just starts spending and
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:converting, and yeah, you do have to
remove it, but majority, like if that
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:happens, like if you have a very large
catalog and Google has to find products at
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:some point, it will spend a good chunk of
money on Random product and try to convert
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:it, which it won't during those times.
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:You do have to remove those products,
like remove them completely.
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:You don't want to just keep on the
old someone said it's going to work.
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:No, you got to remove those.
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:You got to let Google find the winners,
but I don't like the thought process of.
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:Splitting things out.
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:I like shared data.
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:And the reason I said this, the supplement
client that I had that was running
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:on all the one where I was sharing
was per product per ad group, right?
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:What was interesting is we scaled that
client from literally, what was it, like
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:2, 000 a day to maybe 25, 000 a day in
ad spend purely using that structure.
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:What now, here's what I said, I
keep saying, I keep saying what was
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:interesting, but what basically was
interesting was if one ad group was
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:down one week, the other would cover
for it in overall spend, overall
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:conversions and everything, right?
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:And it would, it would give it a
consistent scale across the board to
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:the point where It was still scaling
at 25, 000 a day, but we just decided
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:to go to PMAX and try that again.
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:But, now we're split up,
but you get my point.
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:Yeah, I catch ya.
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:it just means I have to open
my arms a little bit more.
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:But that's okay.
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:Embracing hug.
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:no, I like that.
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:You're making me learn things.
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:Yeah, Kobe.
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:And it turns out I'm not always right, as
Glenn learned, and Abhishek gets to see.
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:I'm not always right,
like a lot of the time.