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On this week's episode of Devil's Trap podcast, we're talking about season four, episode six.
Speaker A:And we ask, am I haunted?
Speaker A:Or is it Long Covid and Baboon?
Speaker B:Baboon.
Speaker A:An epic matchup of the Gamecocks versus the Corn Jerkers.
Speaker B:And don't forget, don't be a dick.
Speaker B:Let's do this.
Speaker A:Welcome to Devil's Trap podcast, season four, episode, episode six.
Speaker B:What?
Speaker A:Hi, I'm Diana.
Speaker B:I'm Liz.
Speaker B:Woo hoo.
Speaker B:Episode six.
Speaker B:We're here.
Speaker A:We are.
Speaker B:We have survived yet another fun night in Texas.
Speaker A:Thank you.
Speaker B:Weather.
Speaker B:That was just exciting.
Speaker A:Yeah, there was like, in North Texas alone, there were nine tornadoes.
Speaker A:And then there's an amazing one in the Austin area in Round Rock, I believe, on the Walmart in the parking lot.
Speaker A:One of the best videos I've seen ever is of the pickup truck in Elgin driving and they get flipped over and then the wind flips them back upright and they drive away.
Speaker B:Oh, I missed that one.
Speaker B:And that is.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's so Texas.
Speaker B:That is so Texas.
Speaker B:Like, whoops.
Speaker B:All right, I got shit to do.
Speaker B:I gotta go.
Speaker B:Yeah, the.
Speaker B:The one in Round Walk Rock.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:So I was sitting in my hallway.
Speaker B:Like, we had so many different tornado warning going off.
Speaker B:And there's like, there's one in Wimberley and there's one layer just like.
Speaker B:And watching, like, where they're going and like, oh, fuck.
Speaker B:So I was like, hey, kitty, I got some fluffy blankets.
Speaker B:And we're playing like now we're just sitting here on the fluffy blanket.
Speaker B:And she was like, fluffy blanket, cool.
Speaker B:So I'm like watching the news and these weather forecasters were so goddamn excited.
Speaker B:And they were going into their weather technology and they're like, we never share this with the public.
Speaker B:And they're like, this is this radar.
Speaker B:This is this radar.
Speaker B:This is.
Speaker B:And they were like going through things that had acronyms that I didn't fucking know.
Speaker B:And it was like watching a sports game of tornadoes.
Speaker B:And then like the one that just.
Speaker B:They had the camera on, the one just started going across 35, like at 35 and 45, if you don't live around here, like, it's a thing.
Speaker B:And over at the flyovers, which is like, I am terrified of flyovers.
Speaker B:Like, I have nightmares all the fucking time of flying off one of those in, like.
Speaker B:So anytime I'm on them, I'm already kind of nervous.
Speaker B:And now I'm like, what now?
Speaker B:I had to think about a fucking tornado knocking me off of this shit.
Speaker B:And There was, like, a semi underneath that was, like, turned over.
Speaker B:I'm like, oh, my God.
Speaker B:And then watching the storm chasers, like, finding all the ones that were coming down, like, to.
Speaker B:I guess that's towards Houston.
Speaker B:It was just.
Speaker B:It was insane.
Speaker B:And it was like.
Speaker B:I was like, this is like, sports.
Speaker A:And thankfully, no one was.
Speaker A:From all reports so far.
Speaker A:No one.
Speaker A:No one killed so far across all the state.
Speaker A:And this just.
Speaker A:Just to like, for the.
Speaker A:Those that are not Texans or familiar with Texas very much, this is tornadoes, literally from the northern border of Texas down to the Austin, which is like 400 miles, like, hours of driving.
Speaker A:This is how long that storage system was that was popping up tornadoes all over the state.
Speaker A:It was fucking wild.
Speaker B:It was crazy.
Speaker B:And it just reminded me of, like, did you ever.
Speaker A:The cow flipping around in Twister.
Speaker A:I'm just kidding.
Speaker B:No, like, as it was, like, headed, like, there was one that was on the path towards my cows.
Speaker B:And I'm like, no, no twister cows.
Speaker B:No twister cows.
Speaker B:Take cover.
Speaker B:Moo cows.
Speaker B:Like, I don't know where you take.
Speaker B:Go under a tree.
Speaker B:I don't know where cows go.
Speaker B:I'm like, go lay down in a ditch.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Other cows, I'm sure they know.
Speaker B:They have some sort of instinct.
Speaker B:They go somewhere, but.
Speaker B:Yeah, but did you ever see this cartoon?
Speaker B:I'm sure it's probably problematic now.
Speaker B:I don't know, but it was like one of the old, like, Disney cartoons or maybe it was Warner Brothers.
Speaker B:It was like Pecos Bill and he wrote a tornado.
Speaker A:He was like, sounds familiar, but I can't, Like, I'm not.
Speaker A:Like, it sounds familiar.
Speaker B:I had to, like, find it.
Speaker B:Like, it was like.
Speaker B:I just remember.
Speaker B:It was like a Texan.
Speaker A:Like, I remember that.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Riding a tornado.
Speaker B:And it was like this.
Speaker B:Like a folk tale of Texas.
Speaker A:Yeah, it was.
Speaker A:It was kind of like.
Speaker A:It was kind of like the.
Speaker A:Like the.
Speaker A:Like a.
Speaker A:Like a Texas Paul Bunyan kind of a thing.
Speaker A:That's kind of the vein it was in.
Speaker A:Yes, I do remember what you're talking about for sure.
Speaker B:Yeah, I just find that now.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's.
Speaker B:That's all I could.
Speaker B:Like, as.
Speaker B:Like, there were so many.
Speaker B:That's all I kept picturing with some of you.
Speaker B:Like, yeah, and just, like, riding this and.
Speaker B:And even, like, when they, like, got the first, like, sign that there was debris and it wasn't just like a tornado.
Speaker B:You could see they were trying not to be excited because, like, oh, this is dangerous.
Speaker A:But they're like, holy shit.
Speaker B:Like, these are fucking Real.
Speaker B:The weather guys had a day.
Speaker B:They did.
Speaker A:They had a day, man, other than crazy ass Texas weather, which by the way, it was in the 70s last week and it's in the 50s, 40s and 50s this week.
Speaker A:This is fun.
Speaker A:This is not March, but anyways, what else have you been up to?
Speaker A:You got back from.
Speaker A:You were in Orlando and now you've returned.
Speaker B:Yeah, I got back from America's wang.
Speaker B:That.
Speaker B:That is done and over.
Speaker B:And this weekend was just spent looking at lots of weird shit.
Speaker B:Saturday night I went to different than normal.
Speaker A:No, I'm just kidding.
Speaker B:No, not really.
Speaker B:It's pretty, pretty usual for me.
Speaker B:My life is maybe not like other people's lives, I've come to realize.
Speaker B:So a friend and I went to the Glass Coffin, which is the vampire parlor in Austin, which is very near one of my favorite diners, Starseeds Cafe.
Speaker B:And like I've been eating there since I was like a young and.
Speaker B:And like pulling out like change to like get like their.
Speaker B:Their veggie burgers, but punk rock institution Star Seeds.
Speaker B:But they actually had a touring exhibit for haunted objects that was presented by the guy from Parapulia who was actually based out of Dripping Springs, like I am.
Speaker B:So he had lots of fun things that I did not know about.
Speaker B:Lots of games from like the 70s and 80s, like ritual and other things that people like put out that I was just like, what?
Speaker B:Like, my mind was blown on the amount of like weird shit that were massively produced to the public.
Speaker B:And now I have a renewed interest in finding all of these things.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker B:And then Sunday was the oddities market out there and that was fun.
Speaker B:I got a necklace, getting ready for my Edwardian ball in two weeks and then found the best use of social media that has ever been invented.
Speaker B:And that was the live Oddities auction on Instagram.
Speaker B:I am not telling you what store had that because you.
Speaker B:You can look it up yourself.
Speaker B:You want it all for yourself.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:And I also, I got this from the guy who did the thing on Saturday, so I'm not sharing it, although it was very funny as I was watching this live auction of taxidermied wonderful things.
Speaker B:Like there was a monkey's paw that went for a thousand dollars.
Speaker B:There was an alligator taxidermy that looked like a pirate and he had a little patch and he was missing a hand and needed a hook.
Speaker B:There are some frogs that were a band like when they were like one of them a banjo and all.
Speaker A:That's just fun.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:But like, and I was watching they had Were auctioning off this gorgeous like art deco mirror.
Speaker B:And then the person bid on it was.
Speaker B:Is my friend Pants who lives in Vegas.
Speaker B:And I was like, oh, Pants is watching this.
Speaker B:Like this is great.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:And that's her actual.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's her name.
Speaker B:Her name is Pants.
Speaker B:So yeah, that.
Speaker B:It has been a week of that and now I am getting ready for.
Speaker B:I don't think I'm doing anything this weekend but getting my hair done and one of my co workers is in town so I may go see her.
Speaker A:That's fine.
Speaker B:And what did you do?
Speaker B:You did something too?
Speaker A:Yeah, we.
Speaker A:We went with.
Speaker A:In.
Speaker A:In connection with my business, my day job.
Speaker A:We went to Luck Reunion.
Speaker A:It is an annual.
Speaker A:Other than past couple years.
Speaker A:It's an annual festival.
Speaker A:One day festival at Luck Ranch is what they call it, which is Willie Nelson's ranch in Spicewood, Texas.
Speaker A:It is the set of the Red Headed Stranger that they have fortified because a lot of movie sets weren't really made to be like actually used and set up this, you know, like 50 plus artists all day long, multiple stages, beverages.
Speaker A:It's an outdoor thing with just.
Speaker A:It's just a really freaking cool vibe and really cool experience.
Speaker A:Saw great music all day, all day, all day.
Speaker A:And yeah, it's been a while since.
Speaker B:You did that, right?
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, it's a long one.
Speaker B:Back to festival life and then.
Speaker A:Yeah, but I mean, and they've got beverages like beverage sponsors and then you know, it was a full moon and there's disco balls hanging from the trees and like it's just a cool fucking vibe.
Speaker A:And you're listening to like I said, great music and musicians from all over the country and some international that make it to this.
Speaker A:It's kind of a pilgrimage for a lot of people and just like it's a really positive.
Speaker A:I've said two weeks in a row I saw incredibly different music in incredibly positive environments with a shit ton of other people, which is not my normal way of seeing music.
Speaker A:I'm a small venue kind of gal.
Speaker A:But it was still fucking greatness.
Speaker A:So did that.
Speaker A:Got to go stop by our friends at Hiram and pick up my bottle of Krugerou, which I.
Speaker A:Which I happen to be drinking tonight.
Speaker B:Oh, what do you think?
Speaker B:Isn't it delicious?
Speaker A:It is fucking delicious.
Speaker B:I was like dangerously delicious.
Speaker A:Just a safe little beverage of this because it's a pre made cocktail.
Speaker A:It's fine.
Speaker A:And now I'm like, well fuck, I'm gonna need a little more.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's.
Speaker B:It's really good and delicious.
Speaker B:I Apologize, guys.
Speaker B:If you hear a sound of the mic, the cat decided that she wants to throw a butt against it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:No twerking against the mic.
Speaker B:That's.
Speaker B:That's not.
Speaker B:That's not tonight.
Speaker A:Later.
Speaker A:It's a different show.
Speaker B:Different show.
Speaker A:What are you drinking this evening?
Speaker B:I am drinking a thirsty goat because I've been craving it and because they were drinking beer in this episode.
Speaker B:So as I was doing notes last night, and I'm like, damn it, I want beer.
Speaker B:So I had my groceries delivered today and had the beer.
Speaker B:You know, they didn't bring me bread, bitches.
Speaker B:Like, I was so mad.
Speaker B:They're like, the orders.
Speaker B:This is fucking hate about grocery shopping, like, online sometimes, because.
Speaker B:And this is like, I know why first world problems.
Speaker A:But I go in person.
Speaker B:I had.
Speaker B:Well, I had shit to do all day.
Speaker B:Like, you know, I couldn't leave.
Speaker B:Like, I had stuff to do.
Speaker B:And so.
Speaker B:And I was hungry, and I was like, yes, somebody bring me food.
Speaker B:And I was like, might as well order groceries.
Speaker B:And so I had plans to make eggplant parmesan sandwiches for dinner, and they were out of ciabatta bread.
Speaker B:And instead of substituting, unless, like, the entire bakery at HEB was out of fucking bread, they just didn't bring me bread.
Speaker B:Like, there was no, oopsies, no bread for you.
Speaker B:And it just said out of stock.
Speaker B:And I'm like, but so now.
Speaker B:But now I did come up with a solution which is probably worse for me, but gonna be more delicious is I have frozen Texas toast in the freezer.
Speaker A:Garlicky, like buttered and garlicky.
Speaker B:Garlic butter.
Speaker B:I knew it.
Speaker B:And I am going to use that to make the eggplant parmesan.
Speaker B:And it's going to be awesome.
Speaker B:I may have a heart attack.
Speaker B:So it was nice knowing all of you.
Speaker B:And that's how I want to go.
Speaker B:Is eating a massive eggplant parmesan sandwich worth it?
Speaker B:Not being scared by a cat?
Speaker B:Well, you know, so.
Speaker B:Which is, I think, segue into this episode.
Speaker A:So good.
Speaker B:So this was season four, episode six.
Speaker B: ,: Speaker B:It was directed by our fabulously dressed Phil Scorching, and it was written by Andrew Dab and Daniel Laughlin.
Speaker B:This is the first of theirs.
Speaker B:We're going to see.
Speaker B:We'll see more coming along with them.
Speaker B:And so they are writing team and supervising producers.
Speaker B:DOB actually ends up becoming kind of a showrunner later.
Speaker B:We'll talk later about that.
Speaker B:But they also do write the.
Speaker B:The third Supernatural comic series, Supernatural Beginnings End.
Speaker B:So Pretty pretty well known writers and I think we can start getting to see their style in this.
Speaker B:I think, as Diana said, I am very confused because it was very funny, but I'm also very depressed.
Speaker A:Yeah, this episode is both really funny and fucking horrifying.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Fucked up.
Speaker A:It's full on fucked up.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's a very weird divide in how you feel like.
Speaker A:Because, like the.
Speaker A:And we'll get into it, I think, as we talk about the storyline.
Speaker A:But, you know, the summary is, is that you've got a lot of enjoyment in how the brothers get to interact with each other.
Speaker A:And obviously Dean especially probably had a lot of fun in this.
Speaker A:But on the other side of the coin, the underlying story that they're following is deeply fucked up.
Speaker B:But at least, I mean, I think the.
Speaker B:The thing that kind of saves it is that doesn't happen until kind of the end.
Speaker A:So you get to.
Speaker A:Then you feel worse because you're like, I've been like, giggling about this whole thing and like, you're like, oh, no.
Speaker B:Oh no.
Speaker A:Is that what I was laughing at?
Speaker A:This is awesome.
Speaker B:I'm a horrible person.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:All right, well, let's start off with a very dramatic beginning.
Speaker A:Oh, my gosh.
Speaker A:So we've got Dean running down the road in a suit with dogs chasing him.
Speaker A:It sounds.
Speaker A:Yeah, it sounds like fucking hellhounds.
Speaker A:And you're like, oh, shit.
Speaker A:And so he trips over some trash and there's a gentleman that is residing in Zed trash.
Speaker A:And he gets up and looks behind him and he's being chased by a Yorkie with a pink bow on its head.
Speaker B:I know.
Speaker B:And he was afraid of a very tiny little fast dog.
Speaker A:Very scared of little fast dog.
Speaker B:And it was a very well groomed dog.
Speaker B:Whoever did that.
Speaker B:Yes, grooming dog.
Speaker B:And I will say there are a number of animals that come through this episode.
Speaker B:And once again, in the credits and IMDb in the credits in the show, etc.
Speaker B:No fucking animal wrangler listed.
Speaker B:So if you were the animal wrangler that handled this episode, season four, episode six, please like slide into our DMs.
Speaker B:I want to know who you are.
Speaker B:I really.
Speaker B:I want to know the tales of.
Speaker A:Yeah, the animal wrangler.
Speaker B:I want to meet an animal wrangler.
Speaker A:Anyways, so it's Rock Ridge, Colorado.
Speaker A:We've got.
Speaker B:Do you know Rock Ridge, Colorado?
Speaker A:No.
Speaker B:Did you ever watch Blazing Saddles?
Speaker A:Oh, yes, I did.
Speaker B:This is the town of Rock Ridge.
Speaker B:Rock Ridge, Yes.
Speaker A:Oh, my gosh.
Speaker A:I would never have connected that.
Speaker A:Just in general like, yep.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker A:That's awesome.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So now go on.
Speaker A:All right, well, so we've got our brothers dressed in suits as.
Speaker A:Introducing themselves as Agents Tyler and Perry at the morgue.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I guess that should have been an Aerosmith Guitar Rift.
Speaker B:I don't know what that would sound like.
Speaker A:And then, yeah, I can't.
Speaker A:I'm not that good.
Speaker A:And the coroner, or whatever, he is medically numerous.
Speaker A:Like, yeah, this guy died of a heart attack.
Speaker A:His name's Frank O'.
Speaker B:Brien.
Speaker A:He's 44.
Speaker A:He was a marathon runner.
Speaker A:And there's been two other heart attacks recently.
Speaker A:So it's weird.
Speaker A:And so the brother's like, yeah, you're gonna do this autopsy, right?
Speaker A:And so he's like, sure.
Speaker A:Fuck it.
Speaker A:I'm gonna do an autopsy right in front of you right now.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Because that's what I would do if I was a medical examiner.
Speaker B:These assholes are like.
Speaker B:I was like, yep, Suit up, bitches.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And so Dean notice points out that there's a tan line from where this gentleman would have worn a wedding band, but there's no wedding band there anymore.
Speaker A:And they're like, I thought this guy wasn't married.
Speaker A:And Sam's like, yeah, and he's got these weird fucking scrapes on his arm.
Speaker A:And the medical examiner guy's like, oh, weird as he gets.
Speaker A:Pulls the guy's heart out.
Speaker A:Yeah, there's no major blockages here.
Speaker A:And hands the guy's heart to Dean, all nonchalant.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah, Dean, hold my heart I gave you my heart he gave you his heart Last Christmas he gave you his heart he did hate that song.
Speaker B:Everybody hates that song.
Speaker A:But, yeah, and then.
Speaker A:And then Sam gets squirted in the face by spleen juice.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So we cut to the sheriff's station Sheriff's department.
Speaker A:And there is a young deputy at the front.
Speaker A:And the brothers.
Speaker B:And he's adorable.
Speaker B:Like, he is so precious.
Speaker B:Like, I just want to have, like, baby sheriff.
Speaker B:Deputy Linus.
Speaker B:Like, no, you haven't been ruined by the world yet.
Speaker A:Oh, no, he is very.
Speaker A:He's.
Speaker A:He is not yet jaded and ruined.
Speaker A:And so our brothers are there waiting to see the sheriff.
Speaker A:And he's an older sheriff.
Speaker A:Well, older than Linus.
Speaker A:Deputy Linus, this is Sheriff Al Britton.
Speaker A:He is played by Jack Conley, who you may recognize not only from Fast and the Furious, but also from 911.
Speaker A:Lone Star.
Speaker A:Harold and Kumar escaped from Guantanamo Bay.
Speaker A:And Deputy Fry and Ba Ba Ba.
Speaker A:Angel.
Speaker B:Who is he?
Speaker B:An angel?
Speaker A:I can't pronounce It Sajan.
Speaker B:Oh, oh.
Speaker B:And the reason why.
Speaker B:Okay, so Sajan is the one.
Speaker B:He's got a.
Speaker B:He's basically in a giant mask.
Speaker B:He's the one in the cloak.
Speaker B:Oh, you haven't watched Angel?
Speaker B:Oh, motherfucker, I watched of a bunch.
Speaker B:I watched the fight the first season.
Speaker B:Have you made it to Spike?
Speaker A:No, I saw.
Speaker A:It's been a few months too since I watched it.
Speaker B:Yeah, no, I mean, like, you haven't made it Spike.
Speaker B:You haven't watched angel, and you have to make it a Spike because that's when it's amazing.
Speaker B:And Harmony.
Speaker B:Hello, Spike and Harmony and that.
Speaker B:Okay, that's going to other show.
Speaker B:Why hasn't Diana fucking watched Angel?
Speaker B:All right, anyway, so we've got our germ freak sheriff.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And he is like, you have to take your shoes off.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And like, is like the awful sounds of him squishing hand sanitizer all over his sounds.
Speaker B:We all know so much now.
Speaker B:And also, dude, it's not going to do anything.
Speaker A:Go ahead.
Speaker A:It's like, dude, it's not a dirty thing.
Speaker A:I'm like, we're going to tell you right now.
Speaker B:Before his time.
Speaker A:He was.
Speaker A:Before his time.
Speaker B:I'm just saying.
Speaker A:Anyways, and so he's like.
Speaker A:They start asking him about Frank o' Brien and he's like, oh, we were friends.
Speaker A:We were on a softball team together called the Gamecocks, which are majestic animals.
Speaker A:It's also, by the way, the mascot of University of South Carolina, which is based in Columbia, which I spent a lot of time in for the military.
Speaker A:And they had a lot of really fun merch that says, go cocks.
Speaker B:Anyways, why don't you own all of that now?
Speaker A:I almost did when I was there.
Speaker A:It was a whole thing.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker B:Yeah, the majestic animal.
Speaker A:Majestic animal, the Gamecock.
Speaker A:And so Sam asks if Frank was scared about anything.
Speaker A:And Sheriff's like, yeah, he had gotten jumpy.
Speaker A:He gotten real jumpy.
Speaker A:And I'd sent some of my guys to go check on him, but they also.
Speaker A:They just found him dead.
Speaker A:So then the sheriff coughs and then aggressively sanitizes his hands again.
Speaker A:So crazy looking.
Speaker A:Also, don't we all look like for the last stop?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Also stop coughing in your hands.
Speaker B:What the fuck?
Speaker B:I forgot where I was somewhere.
Speaker B:I don't remember if it was in the conference or like at a restaurant, but somebody like, coughed, like right in front of us.
Speaker B:Oh, it was at the conference at a health care conference.
Speaker B:Someone coughed.
Speaker B:Did not.
Speaker B:Like, right in front of us.
Speaker B:It did not Cover their mouth or anything.
Speaker B:And then just walked on.
Speaker B:And we're like, this is like germ warfare now.
Speaker B:Like, all of us are, like, terrified and horrified.
Speaker B:Really?
Speaker A:How.
Speaker B:How are you still not covering your goddamn mouth?
Speaker A:That's hilarious.
Speaker A:So, you know, our brothers.
Speaker A:Our brothers leave as this guy aggressively resanitizes his hands.
Speaker A:And as they're walking out there, I go, we got three victims with red scratches on their arms.
Speaker A:And they're.
Speaker A:They go from jittery to terrified to dead in 48 hours.
Speaker A:And, yeah.
Speaker A:So they piece this together.
Speaker A:So, like, what is it?
Speaker B:Ghosts?
Speaker A:Vampires?
Speaker A:Chupacabra.
Speaker B:Chupacabra.
Speaker A:And so they're gonna go see Frank's neighbor.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:But Dean's.
Speaker A:Like, when they're walking down the street, you see the first, like, odd sign from Dean here because there's, like, some, like, normal ass teenagers on the street with, like, a bicycle, like, chilling.
Speaker A:And he's like, let's go this way.
Speaker B:So we avoid them and, like, the luck of those kids.
Speaker B:So we are gonna go to an amazing, awesome and terrifying house.
Speaker A:Apparently, Frank's neighbor was very into.
Speaker A:I just lost name.
Speaker A:Yeah, Frank's.
Speaker A:Frank o' Brien's neighbor was really into reptiles because he has a living room full of aquariums full of reptiles.
Speaker A:And good old neighbor has a snake on his shoulder.
Speaker B:He's cuddly with him.
Speaker A:They're very cuddly.
Speaker A:And there's alligator, other iguana.
Speaker A:There's all kinds of critters in there in tanks.
Speaker B:Animal wrangler.
Speaker B:Who are you?
Speaker B:All right, go on.
Speaker A:And he definitely calls out their pseudonyms, by the way.
Speaker B:But also, I did appreciate how Sam played it off because I was like, what do you do?
Speaker B:And someone's like, why do you have this ridiculous fucking name like Aerosmith?
Speaker B:And he is like, small world, whatever.
Speaker B:And just, like, plays it off like he's heard it a thousand times.
Speaker B:And I was like, okay, got it.
Speaker A:Appreciate it.
Speaker A:He says that Frank was.
Speaker A:His neighbor said that Frank was scared of witches and that he was watching, like, the wizard of Oz was on tv.
Speaker A:And that he said that the green bitch was out to get him.
Speaker B:She was.
Speaker A:But he was also scared of Al Qaeda ferrets, artificial sweetener Pez dispensers with their dead little eyes.
Speaker B:Fair.
Speaker A:It's like.
Speaker A:Well, I mean, most of these.
Speaker B:I like artificial.
Speaker A:I like artificial sweeteners.
Speaker A:So it's fine.
Speaker A:That's fine.
Speaker B:No, it terrifies me.
Speaker B:Okay, I get it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And Dean.
Speaker A:And Dean looks very nervous during all of this.
Speaker A:And Sam's like, so what else was Frank like?
Speaker A:And basically we find out that Frank was a fucking dick.
Speaker A:Frank was a dick.
Speaker A:He was a bully.
Speaker A:But he says this more than once, that he got better over time.
Speaker A:So he got better.
Speaker A:And that his wife had died.
Speaker A:He did have a wife, but she died 20 years ago.
Speaker A:And so I don't get this.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker B:This is the first time.
Speaker B:So she died 20 years ago.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Why does he have a wedding ring?
Speaker A:Tan.
Speaker A:He might have still been wearing it.
Speaker A:A lot of people.
Speaker B:Yeah, I mean, I guess.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Widows and widowers that don't move on choose to continue wearing their jewelry.
Speaker B:Okay, yeah, I got that.
Speaker B:Yeah, I guess.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:That's the only explanation.
Speaker A:Otherwise he wouldn't do it anymore.
Speaker A:That's why I was kind of like, that's weird.
Speaker A:So it was weird, right?
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:And then he.
Speaker A:Then he calls Dean out for being scared of Donnie, which is apparently the name of the snake on his shoulders, and then says, but Marie's the one that smells fear.
Speaker A:And we see an albino snake coming slowly over the sofa across.
Speaker B:So we got Donnie and Marie.
Speaker B:And Marie is a gorgeous albino python.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:But it did like, remind me.
Speaker B:I think we've.
Speaker B:I may have talked about this on this before, but.
Speaker B:Yeah, there was a date line on like two weeks ago and it was on 48 hours about a.
Speaker B:A person who was breeding reptiles and he got murdered and he was murdered by his wife.
Speaker B:But they first they thought the snake did it and was really awesome.
Speaker B:Like, it was great television because they bas film like all like the men at the scene that are afraid to go inside the snakes.
Speaker B:And then like this one, like, badass.
Speaker B:Like one officer is like, it's a giant fucking snake, guys.
Speaker B:Like, it's like £300.
Speaker B:It's not going to sneak up on you.
Speaker B:You will see it coming.
Speaker B:And she just like, basically like did like a push and like walk past them and just like watching the house.
Speaker B:But then of course she found a corpse.
Speaker B:So that was sad.
Speaker B:But, you know, but it was a great woman, empowering moment.
Speaker B:All right, so we're going to the car where Dean has.
Speaker B:Is scratching.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And he gets real jumpy when Sam gets in.
Speaker A:And he's gotten the county records on Frank's wife.
Speaker A:And so basically the summary is that she had some mental health issues and went off her medication, vanished for two weeks and was found three towns over, quote, strung up, committed suicide in her hotel.
Speaker A:Her.
Speaker A:Her husband had an absolute alibi.
Speaker A:So Sam, in the meantime, had been searching Frank's residence and there's no evidence of any kind of ghosts or witches or anything.
Speaker A:And Dean's driving real slow and won't take left turns.
Speaker A:It's fucking weird and creepy.
Speaker A:Sam's.
Speaker A:Sam's like, even like, what the fuck?
Speaker A:Because Dean's being a bitch.
Speaker B:He is.
Speaker A:And then his.
Speaker A:The EMF detector starts going off in Sam's pocket because of Dean.
Speaker A:And Dean goes, am I haunted?
Speaker A:Which is one of my favorite lines.
Speaker B:It is hilarious.
Speaker B:And, Diana, do you want to know?
Speaker B:Am I haunted?
Speaker A:Am I haunted?
Speaker A:Yes, I do want to know.
Speaker B:Okay, so tonight, on this very special episode of Devil's Trap podcast, we are going to ask Diana to play the game.
Speaker B:I'm calling, am I haunted, or do I have long Covid?
Speaker B:So I'm going to name a symptom, right?
Speaker B:And I want you to tell me whether or not you think it is a symptom of being haunted or a symptom of having long Covid.
Speaker B:And this is based According to chart attack.com, spirit-attachment, and the Mayo Clinic.
Speaker B:Okay, so those are the two sources we're basing this off of.
Speaker B:All right, number one symptom, feeling fatigue.
Speaker B:Is that haunted or long Covid.
Speaker A:Can it be both?
Speaker B:It can and it is.
Speaker B:Those are symptoms of both.
Speaker B:All right, symptom number two, anxiety or depression.
Speaker A:Both.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:You can either be haunted or have long Covid.
Speaker B:All right, all right, symptom number four, Mood swings.
Speaker A:I'm gonna go with both.
Speaker B:That's a ghost.
Speaker B:That's just a ghost.
Speaker B:According.
Speaker B:According to haunted attachment.
Speaker A:Well, yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:All right, symptom number five, excessive alcohol or drug abuse.
Speaker A:Haunted.
Speaker A:Yes, that.
Speaker B:That is haunted.
Speaker B:All right, all right, number six, shortness of breath.
Speaker A:Long Covid.
Speaker B:Covid.
Speaker B:That is Covid.
Speaker B:Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
Speaker B:All right, number seven, memory loss.
Speaker B:Both.
Speaker B:Yes, that is both.
Speaker B:All right, number eight, poor concentration.
Speaker A:Ooh, that's a tough one.
Speaker A:I'm going to go with both.
Speaker A:But it could just be a ghost.
Speaker A:It is both.
Speaker B:You are right.
Speaker B:You're awesome at this game.
Speaker B:All right, number nine, loss of taste or smell.
Speaker A:I mean, that long Covid, right?
Speaker B:Yeah, that is Covid.
Speaker B:I'm serious.
Speaker B:A ghost could do that to you.
Speaker B:But really, that's true.
Speaker B:All right, last one.
Speaker B:If you hear inner voices speaking to you.
Speaker A:Haunted.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Thankfully, that is not both.
Speaker B:As far as we know, Covid is not making you hear voices.
Speaker B:So if you have any of those that I said are symptoms of long Covid, maybe you want to go talk to a doctor.
Speaker B:If you have the One.
Speaker B:Or perhaps an exorcist or a shaman or something deal with.
Speaker B:But I was.
Speaker B:I don't know how surprised I was, but, like, I saw this in multiple things, and I was looking up the symptoms of being haunted.
Speaker B:I was like, that's.
Speaker A:Wait a minute.
Speaker B:I was like, this sounds like Covid.
Speaker B:And also, they all sound like things.
Speaker B:Things I have.
Speaker B:I'm just like, why?
Speaker B:Yes, I am very tired.
Speaker A:So is Covid.
Speaker A:Is long Covid actually ghost sickness or is.
Speaker A:Is.
Speaker B:I don't know which.
Speaker B:Which came first, Long Covid or ghost sickness?
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:So maybe Covid is just ghost, and that is now how we're getting infected.
Speaker B:It's just ghost.
Speaker B:That's what I'm going with.
Speaker B:All right, so thank you for.
Speaker B:For playing.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Is that.
Speaker B:Am I haunted, or do I have long Covid?
Speaker B:You expert level in that.
Speaker B:And thanks.
Speaker B:Yeah, There you go.
Speaker A:So obviously, Sam calls Bobby because, duh.
Speaker A:And he has a big old box of donuts.
Speaker A:And Eye of the Tiger is blaring from Baby.
Speaker A:And Dean is laying down inside Baby playing Airdrums and to Eye the Tiger.
Speaker A:But he definitely has three scratches on his arm, and he ignores donuts, which is your other big sign that something is wrong.
Speaker B:You just, like, just blared like, you like.
Speaker B:Let's just go past this.
Speaker B:Dean playing Eye of the Tiger in the middle.
Speaker A:It gets a lot of coverage.
Speaker A:It gets a lot of coverage, but he is blaring Eye of the Tiger.
Speaker B:It is amazing.
Speaker B:It's so amazing that I'm wearing a fucking T shirt of him of him, like, singing this with his eyes going at the gap.
Speaker B:This was, like, one of the most amazing moments of television.
Speaker B:And so.
Speaker B:And the whole way that this came out from.
Speaker B:For those of you who have watched this episode and decided to skip the credits, you dumbass, go back and watch the credits.
Speaker B:Because in the credits, we do have this incredibly long scene of Dean singing this, which was not intentional.
Speaker B:Pretty much.
Speaker B:Jared came out while this had started, and they were, like, trying to cue him.
Speaker B:And Jared was like, nah, I just want to see what happens.
Speaker B:And then Jensen just went through this entire thing and did the entire song with leg guitar and all sorts of amazing things.
Speaker B:And this will come back again later on we talk about editing of this.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:Also, I really want fucking donuts.
Speaker B:Like, damn it.
Speaker B:And I forgot to order them.
Speaker B:Like, the store probably would have just been like, you don't get bread or donuts.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:No baked goods for you.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:They're like, you need to lay off the carbs, Missy.
Speaker B:We can see your chins.
Speaker B:Stop.
Speaker A:Oh, no.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:All right, so Dean obviously has three scratches on his arm and he ignores these donuts, which is upsetting.
Speaker A:So Bobby has told Sam that it's fucking ghost fix ghost sickness, where ghosts infect the human bodies with a disease.
Speaker A:And symptoms that they describe are being, like, anxious and scared and then really scared, and then your heart gives out and it spreads like any other sickness.
Speaker A:And so.
Speaker A:And they think that.
Speaker A:That Frank o' Brien was patient zero and that he infected two other softball players over the weekend who happened to be a member of the other softball team.
Speaker A:Not his team, the Gamecocks, but the Corn Jerkers.
Speaker B:Yeah, so we have the Corn Jerkers.
Speaker B:We're also going need to have a Sam fact checked, because Sam, during this, when he's talking about the lore of ghost sickness, he does say that some cultures believe that certain spirits can infect the living with the disease, which is why they stopped displaying bodies and houses and started taking them off to funeral home homes, which, as somebody who is obsessed with funerary rights and other things, immediately my goth signals went, I don't know, but the sound.
Speaker B:They make something.
Speaker B:It's very sad noise.
Speaker B:They went, yes.
Speaker B:And so I was trying to figure out what the fuck he was talking about, right?
Speaker B:It was like, how do we get front?
Speaker B:And I was like, because that's not what happened.
Speaker B:And what I think he may have been talking about, which was the miasma theory, which was the.
Speaker B:This theory, this really terrible science theory that was.
Speaker B:It was bad science.
Speaker B:So sometimes that happens.
Speaker B:But this was like, there's no such thing.
Speaker B:Hey, hey.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:Science is awesome.
Speaker B: But this was the: Speaker B:Drought, someone drowning a dog.
Speaker B:All right, so the idea of that was death was in the air, and that was what was spreading disease, right?
Speaker B:Because people.
Speaker B:People would, like, die, and then you would have them in your house, and then people come by and they'd be like, hey, corpse.
Speaker B:Like, nice to see you.
Speaker B:And then, you know, then they would go get buried where?
Speaker B:And then eventually they started moving cemeteries farther and farther away from the cities because people.
Speaker B:One of the reasons was they were afraid of this miasma that was theoretically in the air, which would.
Speaker B:It really.
Speaker B:It was just all the shit that was not being put into a sewer and just in general, bad hygiene practices.
Speaker B:In reality, we started going to funeral homes, like, around the Civil War, because soldiers were being embalmed to be sent home.
Speaker B:And so when that started happening, people were like, oh, I.
Speaker B:You Know, somebody else is basically taking care of these death rights for me.
Speaker B:And so then it just kind of became a practice and a practice, and then eventually, private viewing in the home disappeared in favor of using a funeral home, which was a neutral setting.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:So you didn't have to have, like, 9,000 strangers coming troping through your house to look at your corpse, you know, so Sam fact checked.
Speaker B:I don't know the ver our version of Stokes is.
Speaker B:But you failed.
Speaker B:You failed.
Speaker B:All right, so.
Speaker B:All right, so we're the Corn Jerkers.
Speaker B:And how the fuck did they get away with this?
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker B:Like, no one were just like, what did you just call this team?
Speaker A:Gamecocks and Corn versus the Corn Jerkers.
Speaker B:Also, why have I not seen baseball shirts?
Speaker B:Your supernatural family.
Speaker B:Where are my baseball shirts?
Speaker B:With the Gamecocks and the Corn Jerkers?
Speaker A:Yeah, that's a good question.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I see you guys at cons, and I see a lot of things you wear with.
Speaker B:Yeah, this is a deep cut, but it would be a good one.
Speaker B:Say that make this T shirt.
Speaker B:You can do that with the cricket.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So out of all this, we piece together that Dean has about 24 hours.
Speaker A:Sam's not impacted.
Speaker A:And they are trying to figure out why Sam didn't catch it.
Speaker A:And in summary, so far, we have a bully, a vice principal, and a bouncer who have caught this Go sickness.
Speaker A:They were all dicks.
Speaker B:Don't be a dick.
Speaker A:And so the implication is that Dean's kind of a dick.
Speaker B:And so what is the rule that we live by and of our.
Speaker A:Don't be a dick.
Speaker B:Don't be a dick.
Speaker A:Don't be a dick.
Speaker B:At this point, I think we can probably have the child that we have wrangled into saying don't be a dick inserted here.
Speaker B:It'd probably be great.
Speaker B:All right, so Sam has a theory, and this theory involves a word.
Speaker B:And his theory is that if they gank the ghosts that started it, Dean should go back to normal.
Speaker B:I'm like, are you just trying to placate Dean?
Speaker B:Like, you feeling bad for him?
Speaker B:Because apparently ghost sickness also makes you act like a goddamn child.
Speaker A:Yeah, because he's real tired, he's real scared, and he's real sad.
Speaker A:And he doesn't want to stay on the fourth floor of the hotel now either.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:Sad.
Speaker B:And then he has to, like, wait in the car for Sam to get them on the first floor.
Speaker B:And he's too scared to eat donuts.
Speaker B:And that is very, very scared.
Speaker A:It's very scared.
Speaker A:Very sad.
Speaker A:So we Cut to Dean reading about ghost sickness in his hotel room.
Speaker B:And they're very large hotel room.
Speaker B:Like, there is like, a second city.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:It's like he got the first floor.
Speaker B:Like, what the.
Speaker B:Why does this motel have a suite?
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:And then.
Speaker A:But this is very graphic illustrations with somebody vomiting blood and blood spraying out of their chest.
Speaker A:And like, this old, like, ghost sickness book.
Speaker A:It was very funny.
Speaker B:It was.
Speaker A:He's reading it and.
Speaker A:And it talks about how people with ghost sickness can be afflicted by hallucinations.
Speaker A:And then it start.
Speaker A:The words start changing, and it's like, you're dying again, loser.
Speaker A:You're gonna cry, baby gonna cry.
Speaker A:And he's getting very upset.
Speaker B:That book is such a bully.
Speaker B:And, I mean, I'm very like, I don't.
Speaker B:If my books turned on me, like, I would be so sad.
Speaker B:And, like, it's kind of funny this is happening to Dean and not to Sam.
Speaker B:Like, Sam would be the one.
Speaker B:Like, oh, my God, he's being taunted by his book.
Speaker B:That means something.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Not.
Speaker A:Not to Dean.
Speaker A:Dean goes and drinks a beer until.
Speaker A:Until Sam gets back and so ends up that o'.
Speaker A:Brien.
Speaker A:They were sure that it must have been o'.
Speaker A:Brien's.
Speaker A:Frank o' Brien's wife was behind all this.
Speaker A:But no, she was cremated, so she can't be the ghost.
Speaker A:So as they're talking about this, Dean starts coughing and choking up on something, and it's not his beer.
Speaker A:He.
Speaker A:He, like, spits up a piece of fucking wood.
Speaker B:Yeah, it looks like a Scrabble, like,.
Speaker A:For a while writing on it at first.
Speaker B:But, yeah, it looks like a Scrabble or like a Bonjour thing.
Speaker B:And you're like, oh, it's a wood chip.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then Sam's like, sam, it's like, you're our biggest clue.
Speaker A:We've been ignoring it.
Speaker A:And Dean says, I don't want to be a clue.
Speaker B:I know.
Speaker B:And which also makes me wonder if he was ever a clue on Jeopardy.
Speaker B:And that would be a great clue to be on Jeopardy.
Speaker B:Like, this actor from Supernatural said, I don't want to be a clue.
Speaker A:All right, so they're at the lumber mill because, duh, wood chip.
Speaker A:They pieced that together.
Speaker A:And also because it would not be an episode of Supernatural if there was not some kind of an industrial site there.
Speaker B:Yeah, there's.
Speaker B:There was actually something there was in terms of set, like, what they were getting.
Speaker B:Like, they just happened to luck out into getting this location.
Speaker B:Like, they're.
Speaker B:Whatever.
Speaker B:Go on.
Speaker A:So it's an abandoned lumber mill.
Speaker A:Dean does not want to go in, so he's, like, taking pools of whiskey just to get his, like, nerve up to go.
Speaker A:Dean.
Speaker A:They open trunk.
Speaker A:Yay.
Speaker B:Hi, trunk.
Speaker A:And Dean will not even take a pistol, which is also very distressing.
Speaker B:So adorable.
Speaker B:He wants to man the flashlight.
Speaker A:Yeah, adorable.
Speaker A:Anyways, they're inside.
Speaker A:The EMF readers going crazy because, well, guess what?
Speaker A:Dean's there.
Speaker B:Yeah, you're there.
Speaker B:Also, like, look around this mill.
Speaker B:This is terrifying.
Speaker B:It is like, just in general, the fact that anybody works here with, like, how if you work at a lumber mill, how do you have fingers?
Speaker B:Like, this entire place terrifies me.
Speaker B:Like, I would at night in bright daylight.
Speaker B:You could have, like.
Speaker B:It's just terrifying.
Speaker B:There's so many things, like, I'm a klutz.
Speaker B:Like, I tripped over, like, my fucking plastic thing on my desk this week.
Speaker B:Like, I can't imagine, like, working in a sawmill.
Speaker A:Hmm.
Speaker A:Well, they find a wedding band on the floor.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker B:I don't know what to say.
Speaker A:Like, they find a wedding band on the floor, and on the inside of it is engraved, to Frank, Love, Jesse.
Speaker A:So now they know it was Frank o' Brien's wedding ring, and it was Jesse, his wife's inscription on it.
Speaker A:They hear a noise in a locker at this time, though, so they have to go investigate.
Speaker A:And they go and they get ready to open the locker.
Speaker B:That was scary.
Speaker A:It's a cat.
Speaker A:Dean screams a lot.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:And then it was.
Speaker B:That was scary.
Speaker B:So the other thing.
Speaker B:So the people who are editing this video, this one, and sorry, I suck, and I probably should have written down who the names of the editor was anyways.
Speaker B:But if they were complaining because one that it took so long to edit this episode because people kept coming in to watch Jensen do the Eye of the Tiger song.
Speaker B:And then they finally got past that, and then they did the screaming cat thing.
Speaker B:And then people kept coming into the editing room to watch Jensen screaming at the cat over and over again because.
Speaker B:And this is why it is, you know, a gif.
Speaker B:That is Jeff gif, whatever you want to call it.
Speaker B:That is just kind of like, lives in infamy now because it's so fucking good and iconic.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker A:So Sam is pretty unimpressed by this reaction, and they decide to continue their search.
Speaker A:Sam finds an employee ID for Luther Garland, and Dean finds a drawing of Jesse o'.
Speaker A:Brien.
Speaker A:And as they're looking at these fun things, the mill, the lumber mill cuts on.
Speaker A:Like, this is an abandoned, like, turned off everything and all of a sudden, everything turns on.
Speaker A:That's scary.
Speaker A:I don't like that.
Speaker B:And then, fine.
Speaker A:And then they turn around.
Speaker A:Well, the thing that makes it scary to me.
Speaker A:And they turn and there is a man in the room now standing in the corner, facing the corner, like, very Blair Witchy.
Speaker B:Anyways, Lucy, why are you in the corner?
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker B:What are you looking at?
Speaker A:Like, Sam called out, what are you doing over there?
Speaker B:Like, did, like, someone make you go stand on the ground corner, loser?
Speaker B:Like, I don't get it.
Speaker A:Someone sent him to the corner.
Speaker A:Well, you don't know that yet, right now?
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:I'm pretty sure if I saw anybody standing in a corner, I'd be like, what the fuck is wrong with you?
Speaker B:Like, the cat stands in the corner all the time.
Speaker B:And I'm like, what?
Speaker B:What?
Speaker B:Did you do something wrong?
Speaker B:Are you just.
Speaker A:So Sam calls out to him.
Speaker A:Dean runs away.
Speaker A:Sam shoots the ghost and disappears again.
Speaker A:And he finds a.
Speaker A:Goes outside to find Dean drinking more whiskey near the trunk.
Speaker B:And he drank the entire fifth.
Speaker B:He drank the entire fifth of whiskey, which you will die.
Speaker B:Like, I don't know.
Speaker B:I guess he will do that all the time.
Speaker B:But to me, that seems like you would die.
Speaker A:Seems unpleasant.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah, it does.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So we cut to the sheriff's office where he is, where Sam is retrieving the Garland files.
Speaker A:Dean is loaded.
Speaker B:I'm drinking the fifth, and Linus is there.
Speaker B:Hi, Linus.
Speaker A:Yeah, and Sam's asking Linus, like, he's like, hey, it says that he died.
Speaker B:That.
Speaker A:That Luther Garland died of physical trauma.
Speaker A:But there's no details.
Speaker A:What.
Speaker B:What?
Speaker A:You know, he's like, that's before my time.
Speaker A:He's like, cool.
Speaker A:Well, I'm just gonna take this file then, because you don't let us see the sheriff because apparently he's outside sick.
Speaker A:Bye.
Speaker B:Yeah, he's also.
Speaker B:He said it was 20 years ago, which.
Speaker B:And if you're remembering, Diana is also scratching her arms.
Speaker B:Oh, no.
Speaker B:Did you get ghosts?
Speaker A:I'm good.
Speaker A:I just have dry skin.
Speaker A:Damn it.
Speaker A:The weather's been weird.
Speaker B:You're like, I have a fresh tattoo.
Speaker A:Shut up.
Speaker B:But he does say, that was 20 years ago.
Speaker B:And so if you're paying attention, Supernatural fans, The wife died 20 years ago.
Speaker A:Duh.
Speaker B:Are these things related?
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker A:So after they leave, the deputy tells the sheriff that, hey, yeah, they were here for that Garland file.
Speaker A:And then the sheriff is, at this point, using steel wool to scrub at his wrists, and it is a bloody mess that almost Made me yak.
Speaker A:I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker A:I was like, like scrubbing his own skelly.
Speaker B:What were you like?
Speaker A:My sound effects?
Speaker A:Yeah, it was very upsetting.
Speaker A:But he then he stops doing that just long enough to load his pistol and is hearing voices saying that, you know what?
Speaker A:They know what you did in laughter.
Speaker A:So this is not good.
Speaker B:And we know from our quiz earlier that if you're hearing voices, it is a sign of sickness.
Speaker B:And not Covid.
Speaker A:Not long Covid.
Speaker A:He was not patient zero for long Covid.
Speaker A:That's for sure.
Speaker A:All right, so we don't know.
Speaker B:We don't know, baby.
Speaker B:This is where it started.
Speaker B:2008.
Speaker B:This is the COVID came from here.
Speaker A:All right, so Sam and Dean are down at the Peaceful Pines Assisted Living center now.
Speaker A:And this is where we start getting Dean losing more confidence because he's like, no one's gonna believe our badges and aliases are real.
Speaker A:We could go to jail.
Speaker A:Like, panicking.
Speaker B:Sam's like, which is, you know how a normal person would react.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Not how Dean has ever reacted.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And they find Mr. Garland, who is the brother to Luther.
Speaker A:And he does ask for their IDs and inspects them very thoroughly.
Speaker A:And Dean is not chill about it.
Speaker A:No chill.
Speaker B:No chill.
Speaker A:And so they ask him how Luther died.
Speaker A:And it's like, then Mr. Garland tells us, like, the saddest story about how everybody failed Luther, including myself.
Speaker A:I was a widower with three kids, but he was big.
Speaker A:He was mean looking.
Speaker A:He was different, but he was kind to man.
Speaker A:He was, you know, Jesse o' Brien was receptionist at the lumber mill and was nice to Luther, who had a crush on her.
Speaker A:Frank didn't really like that.
Speaker A:And when she disappeared, Frank was convinced that Luther did something to her.
Speaker A:And so Frank.
Speaker A:Yeah, like, go for it.
Speaker A:What are you gonna say?
Speaker B:Okay, so in this whole flashback and like, the whole brulee perception of how, like, nice Luther was, they show him with a very tiny, adorable kitten.
Speaker A:They do.
Speaker B:Which I'm like, is the cat that jumped out at Dean?
Speaker B:Is that Luther's kitten?
Speaker A:It might have been his kitten, yeah.
Speaker B:And I was just like, oh, my God.
Speaker B:That was full circle.
Speaker A:Full circle.
Speaker B:Even somebody who's like, watched this, like, show, like, so many times, they're like, oh, my God, that was his fucking cat.
Speaker B:That's.
Speaker B:Or like, at least like the guy,.
Speaker A:20 Something year old cat.
Speaker A:That'd be real.
Speaker B:Okay, well, I mean.
Speaker B:I mean, I knew you'll live to 20 years.
Speaker B:The cat's up right under my feet.
Speaker B:But I mean, maybe 20 years or maybe like the cats, you know, like the begotten son or begotten daughter, kitten or many generations of kittens later.
Speaker B:But I was just like, oh, shit.
Speaker B:Because it was a great kitten and a great cat.
Speaker B:And I'm like, boom.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:So then Frank assumed that Luther did something to his wife, and then he horribly murdered him.
Speaker B:Horribly.
Speaker B:Horribly, yeah.
Speaker A:Frank.
Speaker A:Frank went to the lumber mill, threw a chain around Luther's neck, tied it to the back of his car, and drove up and down the road outside.
Speaker B:The plant, which apparently has a name.
Speaker B:What do they keep calling it?
Speaker B:Road.
Speaker B:Road Hall.
Speaker A:Road Hall.
Speaker A:Which I did not know wasn't.
Speaker B:So that's a thing like, that's a.
Speaker A:Thing that has, that shouldn't have a name.
Speaker B:It should not have a name.
Speaker B:And it disturbed me enough that I would not look it up because I know where, I know where it's happened in Texas before.
Speaker A:Like, I know it has a terrible case that was.
Speaker B:And it's very upsetting.
Speaker B:And this is where the episode, like Diana said, like, all of a sudden you're like, what the fuck am I watching?
Speaker A:Yeah, very upsetting.
Speaker A:And, and Frank and they Basically, you know, Mr. Garland basically explains that Frank was never arrested because he was viewed as a pillar of the community who made a mistake versus the town freak.
Speaker A:And yeah, it's very upsetting.
Speaker B:It's very like, there's so many levels of upsetting, right?
Speaker B:Because there's one, just the horrible version of just in general, Luther's life.
Speaker B:Then you have Luther, who is murdered horribly.
Speaker B:Then you have a town where somebody is not being brought to justice for their actions and given a pass because they're basically an entitled little shit.
Speaker B:And even if somebody said he got better, he was an entitled little shit and who just felt, I don't know.
Speaker B:There are so many things that just get wrapped into this.
Speaker B:Like one little, like within a minute, they just like, shove your face into, like, the ground.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:No, it's rough.
Speaker A:It's a rough one.
Speaker A:It's real rough.
Speaker A:This scene turns this episode pretty significantly.
Speaker A:And I think that where it really end, that where this seat, Sorry, this scene ends, is really like, kind of ties up the whole episode.
Speaker A:It's where the explanation for all of it is that he talks about how it all comes down to fear and it just spreads and spreads, which is explained, but it's all about fear.
Speaker A:It's interesting.
Speaker B:He was really good.
Speaker A:He was very good.
Speaker A:I, I, his name is Steph Duvall.
Speaker A:I was.
Speaker A:He's been in several things but nothing of.
Speaker A:No, that I recognized.
Speaker A:Yeah, I've been in a lot of.
Speaker A:A lot of things for small roles.
Speaker B:He was fantastic.
Speaker B:Like, just.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:And maybe just.
Speaker B:He also had really good lines.
Speaker B:Like, it was just.
Speaker A:Well, he got to give a narrative that basically gave you the full background of the episode.
Speaker A:Without his narrative, that wouldn't.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:All right, so now we know that this is somehow tied to.
Speaker A:We know that this is now somehow tied to Luther's murder by Frank and rooted in all of their fear.
Speaker A:That's what we know now.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:All right, we have figured out.
Speaker A:Our brothers have figured out that the marks and the victims are now are road rash and the swallow.
Speaker A:And they were swallowing wood chips while they're being dragged.
Speaker A:And they're experiencing Luther's death in slow motion, including his fear.
Speaker A:So Sam's like, look, I don't think we'll be able to find all of Luther.
Speaker A:So we really can't gather him and burn him because he was dragged along a road 20 years ago.
Speaker A:We will never find all the remains, which just like, piles on, like, the fucking sorrow in this episode.
Speaker A:I'm sorry.
Speaker A:Anyways, Dean's pretty upset.
Speaker A:He has decided now that their lives suck, he doesn't want to hunt ghosts.
Speaker A:Normal people see monsters and run where we seek them out.
Speaker A:We're crazy.
Speaker A:We dine our food and live in motels.
Speaker A:And who would want this fucking life being stuck in a car with each other all day while Dean sings, like, along the same five albums?
Speaker A:Okay, that part would be annoying.
Speaker A:And Sam is gassy.
Speaker B:And Sam is so gassy, you eat a half a burrito and you get toxic.
Speaker B:And so.
Speaker B:But again, like, we have just, like, literally been gone through the wringer.
Speaker B:Like, we've just been drugged through the ringer.
Speaker A:Like, emotionally.
Speaker B:Emotionally.
Speaker B:And then we get this hilarious monologue which is also very, like, very astute and, like, apt the way normal people would see them, right?
Speaker B:That.
Speaker B:Who the fuck does this?
Speaker B:Like, like, why are we not running when we see monsters?
Speaker B:This is fucking crazy.
Speaker B:Why am I not dead?
Speaker B:Because all I do is eat shitty food and have, you know, unprotected sex with women who probably, you know, and, you know, and they're just like, he got a rash once.
Speaker B:And, like, Sam eats, like, burritos and he's gassy.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:Yeah, so, I mean, it's like, it's.
Speaker B:It's hilarious.
Speaker B:Like, is it such a hilarious monologue?
Speaker A:It's a very normal, normal reaction monologue to what they're doing.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And he Tells Sam to stay away from him.
Speaker A:He's done with hellhounds, ghost sickness and the damn apocalypse.
Speaker B:But he quits.
Speaker B:Dean quit.
Speaker B:This is it is Supernatural Season 4, Episode 6.
Speaker B:This is when everything ended.
Speaker B:Dean just quit.
Speaker B:And that's how we ended.
Speaker B:Which would have been fantastic.
Speaker A:That would have been hilarious.
Speaker A:So we cut to.
Speaker A:Oh, so we see Dean alone on the road.
Speaker A:And this is where we get our intro scene again, where he hears the pause and it's the fucking Yorkie.
Speaker B:Oh, hi, Yorkie.
Speaker B:You're a good girl.
Speaker A:So, yeah.
Speaker A:So he ends up back at the hotel.
Speaker A:After all, he beat Sam there by running very quickly.
Speaker A:By this point, he's got less than four hours.
Speaker A:And he's like, what are we gonna do?
Speaker A:He's like.
Speaker A:Sam's like.
Speaker A:And Sam's talking to him.
Speaker A:And Sam's like, yeah, you're gonna die and go back to hell.
Speaker A:And you're like, what the fuck?
Speaker A:Who is this?
Speaker A:And then we see Dean.
Speaker A:Dean sees Sam's eyes turn yellow and hears that.
Speaker A:You've been a real pain in my ass.
Speaker A:So now we know that Dean is hallucinating at this point.
Speaker A:Well, we're pretty sure.
Speaker B:We hope.
Speaker B:We hope.
Speaker B:We certainly hope Dean is hallucinating.
Speaker A:Well, we know he has been.
Speaker A:So Dean tries to attack him and.
Speaker A:And Sam does a demon fling.
Speaker A:And Dean's yelling, get out of my brother.
Speaker A:And Sam says, no one's possessing me.
Speaker A:This is just what I'm going to become.
Speaker A:Which feeds into obviously Dean's fears.
Speaker A:And that's a pretty big fear.
Speaker B:Like, I am afraid my brother is going to become a yellow eyed demon.
Speaker B:Like, fuck.
Speaker B:Like, that's pretty harsh.
Speaker A:But it's like the first time we've.
Speaker A:I mean, we know that he's been scared of Sam's powers, but this is kind of a manifestation of it.
Speaker B:Yeah, no, it's not terrifying.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:And then all of a sudden, right when he starts to.
Speaker A:Sam starts to choke Dean.
Speaker A:Dean sees Sam turned back to normal.
Speaker A:Him.
Speaker A:That kid was a ho.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And this is all very confusing.
Speaker B:Like, what was Sam like doing during.
Speaker B:Like, like, so was Sam actually there?
Speaker A:Like, I think he was there and not saying fucked up shit.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Which is like.
Speaker B:It's like, oh, man.
Speaker B:It was like every like person who's ever done drugs fear that like you were seeing one thing and like the person next to you, it was like seeing something.
Speaker B:Something completely else.
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:I mean, not that I personally experience what, but I mean, that's how I imagine that would be.
Speaker B:Like, all right, so we are going back outside.
Speaker B:Terrifying lumber mill.
Speaker A:Yeah, Sam and Bobby are going to go to the lumber mill because Dean obviously can't.
Speaker A:So Dean's going to stay at the motel, scratching his arm and watching Gumby.
Speaker B:I have so many questions.
Speaker B:Okay, so Dean is watching Gumby and Pokey, right?
Speaker B:And obviously I have no idea the last time, but I don't know if I've actually sat through a Gumby and Pokey episode.
Speaker B:Like, I don't know.
Speaker B:Have you ever actually watched it?
Speaker A:I mean, like, as a kid?
Speaker A:I remember watching it.
Speaker B:Did you actually watch this as a child?
Speaker B:Because that's terrifying.
Speaker B:Like, it was like.
Speaker B:Like he had like.
Speaker B:Like the horse, like, which is pokey.
Speaker B:Like Gumby had like Pokey by like a lasso around his neck and was like dragging him around.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:What the fuck?
Speaker B:Why was this a children's show?
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker B:So now I want to watch it again.
Speaker B:Anyway, so Bobby is just like, oh, I know things.
Speaker A:I've got this old ass Japanese book and I speak and read Japanese apparently.
Speaker A:Okay, Bobby, you go.
Speaker B:And actually Jim Beaver does.
Speaker B:And so that was actual Japanese.
Speaker B:And basically like the original.
Speaker B:The original translation of it was very formal.
Speaker B:So Jim Beaver.
Speaker B:Bobby actually like, made it less formal.
Speaker B:So it basically said when he.
Speaker B:When Sam asked if Bobby can read Japanese, he basically said, back before you were born, idiot.
Speaker A:All right then.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker A:So Bobby's like, look, it's a specific type of ghost called a Barubaru.
Speaker B:And we are named that because.
Speaker B:So when they were trying to translate that to English, there really isn't like a translation.
Speaker B:So it's like the sound you make when, like, your spine shivers.
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker B:And also I'm just like.
Speaker A:And it injects with fear.
Speaker A:You still have to burn the remains or it can possibly be killed with fear.
Speaker A:So you have to make the ghost scared.
Speaker B:You have to scare a ghost to death.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker B:Okay, cool.
Speaker B:That sounds easy.
Speaker A:So they have a plan, as Bobby says, this is a terrible plan, as he grabs his shotgun.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:And then they walk into Murder Mill.
Speaker A:Murder Mill.
Speaker B:Muslims calling it Murder Mill.
Speaker A:All right, so Sam's inside.
Speaker A:We cut to the other.
Speaker A:It's back to the motel.
Speaker A:And of course Dean's now hearing dogs in the hotel because now it sounds like there's hellhounds trying to get in.
Speaker A:Nope, no hellhounds.
Speaker A:Just the fucking sheriff.
Speaker A:Just the sheriff.
Speaker A:Which is not good because he's got his pistol and he's upset, asking why they're looking into Luther's death.
Speaker A:And Dean's like, Look, we're both.
Speaker A:You're sick, just like me and like Frank was.
Speaker A:And Sheriff's like, yeah, Frank was my friend, but he made a mistake.
Speaker A:I didn't bust him.
Speaker A:But, you know, you're not going to.
Speaker A:You're not going to ruin everything.
Speaker A:And so Dean has to knock the gun out of his hand.
Speaker A:They have a fist fight.
Speaker A:And then Dean sees demonize for a second.
Speaker A:And the sheriff goes on the ground to panic and he dies himself.
Speaker A:Gets himself worked up to a heart attack.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And we'll come back to this.
Speaker B:Those questions about this.
Speaker B:All right, but.
Speaker B:All right, so go back to murder mill.
Speaker B:And Sam can't find Luther.
Speaker A:He's looking.
Speaker A:Bobby's on the radio.
Speaker A:So he has to.
Speaker A:He has got.
Speaker A:He's got to make him mad.
Speaker A:So he starts tearing things up, which.
Speaker B:Is just sad, man.
Speaker B:Also, like, why are these drawings been there for 20 years and nobody like, cleaned this shit up?
Speaker B:Like, did this mill not operate for 20 years?
Speaker B:Like, I don't understand.
Speaker A:It's very weird.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So they start.
Speaker B:He starts tearing up his drawings.
Speaker B:Fuck you, Sam.
Speaker B:And this like, is even like, I think it makes us.
Speaker B:What's about to happen is even worse.
Speaker B:All right, so.
Speaker A:And so Luther appears behind Sam.
Speaker A:And then.
Speaker B:Mad.
Speaker A:He said he's not happy.
Speaker A:He's mad.
Speaker A:Now we come back to the motel and Dean's alone now.
Speaker A:Well, with a dead body of the sheriff scratching.
Speaker A:And he hears Sam's voice embarking.
Speaker A:So he finds the Bible in the hotel room.
Speaker A:He's clutching onto that, which is kind of random.
Speaker A:I was like, well, it could be interesting.
Speaker A:I mean, like, they've alluded to his lack of faith.
Speaker A:Faith with like the.
Speaker A:With Castiel timelines.
Speaker A:I was like, oh, this could be a turn.
Speaker A:No, he was just clinging to it for a second.
Speaker B:And that's a weird.
Speaker B:It's a weird thing for Dean.
Speaker B:All right, so, yeah, Dean said that.
Speaker A:And who shows up?
Speaker B:It's me, Lilith.
Speaker B:I miss you so.
Speaker B:Silly goose.
Speaker B:You're silly goose.
Speaker B:I love her so much.
Speaker B:I love this child.
Speaker B:Like, if I'm gonna be haunted by a demon, I want it to be her.
Speaker A:No, that's fucking awful.
Speaker A:Are you kidding?
Speaker A:She's like.
Speaker A:But she's like, it's to time to go back now.
Speaker A:So she's talking about him going back to hell.
Speaker A:And he's like, you're not real.
Speaker A:And she's like asking if he remembers hell and explain.
Speaker A:And she gives the audience first time glimpse at this point of how much time Dean spent in hell.
Speaker A:So now this is actually a pretty eye opening Porsche scene right now.
Speaker A:Because as a first time viewer and I know there's implications.
Speaker A:I'm not, I'm not.
Speaker A:I don't watch spoilers, but I'm not.
Speaker B:Fucking spoiled it also.
Speaker A:But I've also heard and enough other things alluding to Dean remembering time in hell and having spent much longer in hell than the four months of the show lead to.
Speaker A:So she.
Speaker A:We've now clarified that he remembers his time in hell and those four months on earth were 40 years in hell.
Speaker A:So Dean remembers.
Speaker A:He has full recollection of spending 40 years.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And he's been lying to Sam.
Speaker B:He does.
Speaker B:We.
Speaker B:Which we knew.
Speaker B:Like we'd seen glimpses.
Speaker A:There's a glimpse of that.
Speaker A:But not to this.
Speaker A:Not to this level.
Speaker B:Yeah, he knows.
Speaker B:He remembers everything.
Speaker B:And it was a long time.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And then she starts going that he's gonna die and he knows why.
Speaker B:And his heart goes ba boom, ba boom.
Speaker B:But when she says it, it sounds like baboon, baboon.
Speaker B:So this is all I hear for the next like bunch of minutes as we go on.
Speaker B:All right, all right.
Speaker B:So we've got Lilith chanting baboons, Baboons.
Speaker A:And we've got Sam getting his ass kicked by Luther.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:And then somehow Sam manages to get a chain around Luther's neck.
Speaker A:What?
Speaker A:And tells Bobby to punch it.
Speaker A:And this is where my stomach drops.
Speaker A:Props.
Speaker A:They're not doing that.
Speaker A:They're not doing this.
Speaker A:That's all I could think.
Speaker B:They're not doing this part.
Speaker B:We're in physics of ghost.
Speaker B:What?
Speaker B:You can put a chain around a ghost?
Speaker A:Well, I think the concept here was twofold.
Speaker A:I think the concept, the first concept was that his own fear of this happening, like Luther's fear, even as a ghost of it happening, manifested this.
Speaker A:Ooh, deep.
Speaker A:Well, I mean the whole thing.
Speaker A:They're trying to like.
Speaker A:They're using his own fear of this incident as the weapon against him.
Speaker A:So it would have to work in some regard.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:And then.
Speaker B:And then something happens.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:So next they are gone.
Speaker A:They drive like they fucking.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:The car pulled Bobby.
Speaker A:Bobby hits the gas impulse ghost Luther chained in the back.
Speaker A:It takes like.
Speaker A:I'm not like offended or whatever.
Speaker A:That takes a lot for me.
Speaker A:This is fucking upsetting.
Speaker B:No, this is.
Speaker B:This is bad.
Speaker B:This is fucked up.
Speaker A:This is fucked, fucked up.
Speaker A:And then as they're doing that and well, Dean, we see that Dean's still like hearing getting baboons yelled at him and he's about to have his heart attack he can't breathe.
Speaker A:And then as he's dragged down the shitty road outside of the shitty lumber mill, poor Luther dissipates away as a ghost.
Speaker A:And the mill stops running.
Speaker A:And Dean can suddenly breathe again.
Speaker A:And his scratches are gone.
Speaker B:I hope this means poor Luther has found some peace.
Speaker A:That's so, man.
Speaker A:Anyways, so now we've got.
Speaker B:Yeah, no, but I mean, I can't.
Speaker B:Why would you do this?
Speaker B:Why?
Speaker B:Like, why didn't you get, like.
Speaker B:I want, like.
Speaker A:I'm gonna say this could have been like.
Speaker A:They could have, like, beat him with a baseball bat and that would have been less.
Speaker B:Or they could have had him take his revenge on the sheriff, which would have been satisfying to me.
Speaker B:And, like, something happened.
Speaker A:Like, you know, like, it's just bizarre to me that this was the storyline they thought they should go with.
Speaker B:It's terribly depressing, but also very emotional.
Speaker B:So from a writing standpoint, it's effective in that regard.
Speaker A:But man, that's hard.
Speaker A:All right, so now they're just.
Speaker A:Sam and Dean are standing around at some random, like, rock quarry, who knows why, with Bobby.
Speaker B:And they're all.
Speaker B:They are very, very cleaned up too.
Speaker A:So, yeah, they went and got cleaned up.
Speaker A:And so the quote is that Sam and Bobby road hauled a ghost with an iron chain.
Speaker A:So apparently the iron chain makes a difference and being able to also hold onto the ghost.
Speaker A:Corporate.
Speaker A:Oh, oh, oh, oh.
Speaker B:So this is what I was like.
Speaker B:I knew the.
Speaker B:So this is from Supernatural Companion Season 4, the Rock Quarry.
Speaker B:So the script called for limestone.
Speaker B:Query notes, location scout, James McCarran's.
Speaker B:And we were like, where are we going to find a limestone quarry?
Speaker B:Which in Texas is like everywhere.
Speaker B:But it was like, I sent out my boys and one of them happened upon this creepy looking sawmill.
Speaker B:They closed down for two weeks every number of years for some kind of maintenance.
Speaker B:And it just happened to be the exact two weeks we were filming this episode.
Speaker B:So that actually.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:And they went to a quarry.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:So basically what Luther was most afraid of was getting was how he died.
Speaker A:That was his most thing that scared him the most.
Speaker A:And so that was the fucked up way they were able to scare his ghost to death by doing it to him again, which is so fucked up.
Speaker A:Anyways, Dean says that he feels fine and Bobby teases him about their line of work being scared.
Speaker B:And they do.
Speaker B:They mock him.
Speaker B:And that's adorable.
Speaker B:And I love a good ball busting.
Speaker B:It's what I live for.
Speaker A:So Sam asked Dean what he saw and all Dean admitted to was other than a cop beating my ass was howler monkeys.
Speaker A:And then normal stuff.
Speaker A:Nothing I couldn't handle.
Speaker A:So he is keeping from Sam the fact that he saw Lilith.
Speaker B:And also, like, while he's doing this, Sam's eyes flash yellow for a second and you're like, definitely.
Speaker A:Oh, I miss that.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:No, there's a moment while he's talking to him and Sam's eyes flash yellow, and it was.
Speaker B:That was up.
Speaker B:And that's indeed winter.
Speaker B:I saw howler monkeys because they're terrifying.
Speaker B:Actually, howler monkeys are pretty funny, except when they're stealing your.
Speaker A:I've heard they do that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Then we end this episode and go to Liz's favorite scene ever.
Speaker B:That was the favorite scene ever.
Speaker B:But it's one of the best things ever.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:Yeah, no, it was again, just that kind of, like, emotional relief.
Speaker B:I feel like you just watch this terrible, terrible story of what bullying and dicks lead to.
Speaker B:So what is the moral of this?
Speaker A:Don't be a dick.
Speaker B:Never, never run a marathon.
Speaker B:Wait, what?
Speaker A:Never run a marathon.
Speaker A:I said don't be a dick.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Yeah, that.
Speaker B:That one holds, too.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:Anything else?
Speaker A:No, I think we covered it.
Speaker B:All right, well, cheers.
Speaker A:Jerk.
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