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Chapters

00:00 Welcome and Easter Weekend

00:28 Easter Basket Memories

01:43 Skateboard Easter Story

02:33 Skating Injuries and Scooters

03:47 Today Reading Overview

03:53 Gideon After Victory

05:11 Golden Ephod Snare

05:33 Abimelech Power Grab

07:25 Jotham Warning and Downfall

09:27 Leadership Lessons

11:34 Evil Spirit Question

12:42 God and Evil Explained

14:16 God Permits Evil

14:47 Why Compare Translations

15:46 Faithful Bible Versions

16:25 Red Flags and Paraphrases

17:50 Top Picks for Study

18:42 Luke 8 Overview

20:07 Do Demons Resist

21:28 Legion and Naming

23:15 People Over Pigs

24:37 Pigs Drown Demons

27:02 Prayer and Sendoff

Hey everybody.

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Welcome back to another edition

of the Daily Bible Podcast.

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Welcome back.

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Hello.

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We are back with you on Thursday.

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It is Thursday before Good

Friday, and so we are fast

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approaching our weekend services.

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We reminded you yesterday.

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I'll remind you again today.

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We got two Good Friday

services, four and five 30.

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We've got Extravaganza and we've

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so it should be an awesome weekend.

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We're preparing for it.

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We hope you're preparing for it.

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It's gonna be a great time.

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Pastor Mark, did you do

Easter baskets growing up?

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Did your parents do?

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Sure did.

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Yep.

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Sure did.

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Did they hide the Easter basket for you?

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No.

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They didn't hide the Easter basket,

but they did hide all the things that

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we had to put into the Easter basket.

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Oh, interesting.

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So we got the Easter basket, and

then we had to run around the house

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and the yard and find all the stuff.

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Find like the chocolate bunny and, yep.

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And the eggs, yeah.

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All the classic stuff.

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So, yeah.

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Yeah.

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You know the Easter Bunny?

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I, as a kid, I loved getting the

Easter Bunny, the chocolate one.

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I would never eat it 'cause I

was sentimental and I couldn't

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bring myself to bite its head off.

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Head off off.

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Well, yeah, my kids

don't have that problem.

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No, I'm sure I, I can't see

a Lincoln feeling bad about

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chomping down on those ears.

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No, no.

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But if you give 'em a chocolate tire.

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Yeah, he'd be devastated.

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You don't gonna, where's

the rest of the car?

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This has to go on it.

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Yeah.

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How about you?

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How did you get the Easter basket?

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For me, it was, the stuff was in the

basket and the basket was hidden.

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And I remember finding

it like in the dryer and.

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Tuck behind a couch and

different things like that.

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But yeah, you wouldn't wanna turn

the dryer on with that in there.

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That'd be quite a satisfying

No, that seems to ruin all

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that chocolate go in there.

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The dryer.

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Probably in the dryer probably too.

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Go get it.

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Little pj, how about you

around the dryer drum?

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I don't remember.

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I can't recall.

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I remember one Easter where I got a

skateboard, so I was much older by that

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point, but I do not remember earlier.

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Easters, I can't tell you.

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I never got a skateboard for Easter.

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Yeah.

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Well, it's a bummer for you.

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It was probably my best

Easter to that point.

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I remember it was a, it

was a maple skateboard.

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It was a really great

board, solid one too.

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How much did you skate growing up?

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I did all throughout high school.

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Yeah.

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And.

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I think I started in middle

school, so a long time.

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Wow.

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I was really amazingly good.

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Never got sponsored, but

that's how good I was.

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Did you break any bones?

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Yeah, but not because of skating.

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It was more adjacent to my skating.

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I, yeah.

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Long story, but no, you were

saying you were so good that the

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sponsors couldn't afford you.

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They couldn't afford, it was

like turning down left and right.

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It's like it's a good PR man right there.

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PR for pr.

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That's right.

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That's awesome.

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Yeah.

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When was the last time you went skating?

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It was in California.

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I was on the pastor at Compass and I fell.

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So I did not tell Pastor Mike, pastor Mike

is our sending pastor at Compass Bible

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Church and Elisa Viejo because I saw how

he responded to other men who got injured

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doing things, and I thought, you know, I'm

just going to, I'm just gonna own this.

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I'm gonna stay quiet.

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I'm gonna be in pain, and that's okay.

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And it was the last time.

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It was the last time.

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Actually, no.

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Every now and then if I see a

bored, I just can't help it.

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I, I gotta get on and at least pedal

a little bit and do a few things.

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So, no, I haven't learned a lesson.

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To answer your question, we had a

guy back in our college ministry

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in California who used to be

really good with the razor scooter.

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He would go to skate parks and.

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Flip that thing around and

everything else, which that

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hits my shin when I look at it.

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So I don't imagine I would

enjoy doing that very much.

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Yeah.

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Neither would I.

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Yeah.

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Lincoln goes to the skate park, does he?

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Yeah, he takes his bike.

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Nice.

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And he, he goes on the skate park.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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Does he like whip it around

and do back flips and stuff?

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Not, not quite.

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He wants to, not yet.

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He watches the other

people at the state park.

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Yeah.

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With the intention of someday doing that.

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There's no doubt about that.

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Yeah.

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That's awesome.

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That's awesome.

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Well, hey, let's jump into

our daily Bible reading today.

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We got judges eight, nine

and Luke 8 22 through 56.

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So judges eight after the, the

battle with the Midianites, which

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Gideon had won with the few troops

that the Lord had sent with them.

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EUM is upset because they

wanna say, Hey, what gives, why

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didn't you ask us to come help?

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And Gideon says, look at

what you've accomplished.

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Give this one to the Lord.

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This is not about you.

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And, and they kind of said, okay, fine.

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We we're with you on that.

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But crossing back over the Jordan, he's

chasing these two Midianite kings and he

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comes to this one region, Suko, and he.

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Talks to them and he says, Hey, I,

I need food for my troops because

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I'm chasing these Midianite kings.

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And they basically say, well,

why do you boast as though

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you've already conquered them?

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Why don't you come back to us

after you have these kings?

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We're not gonna help you.

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We're not gonna risk our lives

of betting you and helping

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you while they're still alive.

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Because what if they hear about

this and they come after us?

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At least that's what's implied it seems.

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So Gideon goes after the Midianite

kings and conquers them, and then he

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comes back to deal with the leaders

of Suko who treated him so poorly.

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And he does so in a, a rather.

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Aggressive fashion there.

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After this, Gideon is going to be

approached by the people and they're gonna

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say, Hey, we want you to be our king.

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And you see a little bit

of, of Gideon's humility.

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Gideon's going to not finish well, but

this is one bright spot is Gideon does

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deny their request to be the king.

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He knows that that's not

what God has called him to.

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He knows that's not what

God wants him to do.

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And, and he even points them

back to Yahweh as their leader.

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But right after that comes his

creation of this golden eod, which is

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gonna be one of the, the weaknesses

towards the end of his life.

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He's gonna die and after his death,

the people are gonna go after this

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EOD and, and treat it as an idol.

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And they're gonna worship that.

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It's a graven image, and he

was prohibited from doing that.

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And it's gonna become a snare to

him and his own family as well.

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Chapter nine, we've got a bialek.

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Oh, sorry.

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Yeah, go for it.

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I, I do want to observe though

that he names his son, Abbe son.

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In the end.

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Of Chapter eight.

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Yes, it does.

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Before we get into what we see in chapter

nine, and that means Son of the King.

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So even though earlier in this chapter,

he points the people back to God as

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their rightful king, there's something

going on here and we don't know

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exactly when Ab Bialek is born, right?

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Maybe.

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Mm-hmm.

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Maybe he's born after his statement

in the verses above, but there

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is some sense in which the first.

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King of Israel is Gideon.

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I, I don't think it's, it's never

stated that way, but I do think

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there are hints of that and even

with the EAD that we looked at and

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some of the issues that we see.

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But Ab Bialek definitely gets

the name Son of the King.

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He does.

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Yeah.

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A a Abby, meaning son

of Meek, meaning king.

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And so that's where we get the

son of the king title there.

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Yeah.

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And, and he comes on the scene in chapter

nine, and he is, is not a good dude.

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He makes a power play and he's saying,

well, if I'm a bialek, if I'm the son of

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the king, I'm going to be the king myself.

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So he goes after and, and wipes out.

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Almost all of his brothers kills all

but one, and after this, the people of

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Shechem, at least they make him king.

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And so is is a bialek, you mentioned

Gideon, but is a Bialek formally the

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first king of Israel, or should we say No,

Saul is still the first king of Israel.

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I mean, I think there's definitely

an argument to be made that aek

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is the first king of Israel, but.

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He's not established as king by God.

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And I do think that even with Saul's

failings and issues, he is nonetheless

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established by God as King of Israel.

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Right.

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So in some sense yes.

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But, and I think in the true sense

and how the Bible talks about it,

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Saul is the first true king of Israel.

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Yeah, for sure.

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In, in chapter nine, throughout

the whole thing, the whole point

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is what happens here is, is simply

humanity and fallen humanity.

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Happening to itself.

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And, and, and Jotham, who's the one

brother of ab Bilich that he doesn't

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kill, gives a, a prophecy of sorts

be before running away again where

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he says, Hey, if, if this is of God,

great, but if not, then you guys are

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gonna basically destroy yourselves.

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And that's really what happens in the

rest of Chapter nine under a bili quote,

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reign is, things are not good for him

because he's an unrighteous ruler and

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things are not good for the people

because they rebel against him and they

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end up really destroying themselves.

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Obviously, God is.

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Is sovereign over all of this.

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And he, ab bialek is, is

gonna have some high points.

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He has some victories, but he, he doesn't.

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Recognize God's hand behind that.

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And in the end he meets this tragic

and humiliating defeat and death when

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a woman on top of a mill tower throws a

stone down on his head and and kills him.

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And he has to ask his armor bear

to thrust him through there.

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So this is kind of chapter nine is

like, okay, this is a little bit of

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a glimpse and there was no king in

in Israel during those days, even

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though I though ironically he claimed

to be, and men did as they please.

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This is God giving us a picture into

when he says in the people of Israel,

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again, did evil against the Lord.

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I think this is God opening up the window

and saying, this is what I mean by that.

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And I think we see that

through the narrative.

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There's a theme that runs

throughout here of hiding and

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running and kind of scurrying away.

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I mean, it begins with Gideon's

introduction back a couple chapters

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ago where he's hiding in the wine

sorry, in the vineyard, right.

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Avoiding being seen by the Midianites.

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Don't say wine.

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And then, you know, he's, he's, he's

running away at different points.

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Right.

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And then even here specifically, right.

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We see that.

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We see that Jotham is

running away, hiding.

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And then we are gonna see also that

Gaul is running away and hiding.

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So I think we see that

this is, that this is.

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Not how it's supposed to work.

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And that's just a simple narrative tool

that I think is in play here, but I think

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it's really there to indicate that this

is not the way things are supposed to be.

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Indeed, and you, you see here is

that leadership plays such a strong

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role in the life of any people.

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Much less the the life of

the life of God's people.

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That when you choose poorly, you should

expect, in this case, the bramble.

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To work against you such as the case

of any kind of leadership, whether

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it's in your own particular family

or at your church or in your job.

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A leader's gonna make such a

critical difference in the experience

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and the life and the quality

of the people they serve here.

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Ab Bialek takes from the people.

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He doesn't serve them.

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He's not laying down his life for them.

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They're his servants and they

they pay dearly for the fact that

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he leads the way that he does.

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And I think this is a, just a reminder for

us who have any position of leadership,

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whether it's just a leader in a family

or a leader in a little league or a

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little a leader in some other capacity.

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Leadership really matters and the

quality of leadership will have

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devastating effects for those below them.

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If their leadership is anything

other, then God's leadership.

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And if you're a godly leader and you're

called to leadership, if somebody asks you

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to fill a role in leadership in particular

in the church, you should take that call.

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I mean, I think one of the

things you see that Jonathan.

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Calls out some of these people for it.

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You don't hear the names of them, but

there's leaders who seem to be righteous

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people, faithful people, but they all

say, no, we're not gonna take this.

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We don't want this.

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And so the leadership defaults

to the bramble, right?

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To the worst.

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And so I do think just if you have that

opportunity and you understand that God

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has given you leadership abilities and

somebody calls you to that role, take it.

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I think that would be an appropriate.

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Application of, of what we see here.

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Is there anyone you wanna call out right

now, pastor Mark for Kids Ministry?

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No.

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Just put that on the podcast.

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I'm not on the podcast paging.

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Well, I, but I have, I've asked people,

yeah, people asked people, they say,

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no, I've asked people into leadership,

they should listen to this podcast.

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Let's send this, let's send them the

link to this podcast and make sure

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that they respond the way they should.

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I'm not thinking of anybody in

particular, but I do think that,

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but what are their initials though?

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If you, were, we, we adjure you.

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Well, you know, they're, and yeah.

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Did you say uin?

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No, it's not name dropping.

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Eugene is great.

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What about verse 23?

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'cause this might turn into a

question, but verse 23, it says,

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God sent an evil spirit between a

bialek and the leaders of Shechem.

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Is this an angelic being from the presence

of God sent to opposed evil people?

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Or is this God's exercise of

authority over the demonic realm?

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Dispatching a de demon between

ab bialek and the people.

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Is this the angel Yahweh is

what you're asking, right.

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So we can get into that?

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No, I'm not doubt no.

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Why are you so sensitive?

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Why are you so defensive?

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Pastor Mark, you need to calm down, man.

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Why are you so uptight about this?

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No, I'm just kidding.

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No, this is just my question

is do you think this is an.

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Angel from the presence of God a holy

angel sent to oppose these evil groups.

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Or is this a spirit that's a demon

that God is exercising authority over

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saying, I'm going to send this demon

The way that even when Satan came

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before his presence with Job, God said,

have you considered my servant job?

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Behold, he's in your hand.

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Is this God releasing what had

maybe previously been a protective

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measure against ab bialek and the

people by allowing the demonic

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realm to have more influence?

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I don't have the Hebrew in front of

me, but based on the ESV, it does

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seem to indicate an evil spirit, so

the spirit is identified as evil.

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So I, I don't think it's an angelic

being at least a righteous angelic being.

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But I do think that it is because

of the way, at least the ESV says

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maybe one of you guys with logos open

can, can look at it more carefully.

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But I do think that ESV indicates

that it would be a, a demonic force.

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The words that are there would,

would, it's the same word

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that we'll use for spirit.

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We'll just say it that way.

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But I think it probably alludes

not, not to an actual spirit as

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in a, something ethereal that we

often think of, but a disposition.

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This is actually how logos, the

Sense Dictionary describes it.

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A disposition of animosity or hostility

between these people groups, the.

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What's this translation I'm

looking at here next to it?

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There's another translation I'm

looking at that says that God sent a

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spirit to stir up hostility between

a bialek and the leaders of Shechem.

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So I guess that's a sense whether

it actually is a non-physical being.

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It could be that, or whether it is

just a, a spirit as in a disposition

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of animosity between the two.

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Either way, I think we're in a pickle

by saying, well, how does God do this?

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And I think the pickle for me is resolved

by just simply acknowledging God can't not

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be part of every single action that takes

place, but how he relates to that action

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is asymmetrical to his relationship, to

righteous actions with righteousness.

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He is directly involved.

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He is the God who does good things.

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He institutes good.

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He directs good with evil.

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E even, even though he can't not

be part of it because he is a

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sovereign ruler of all things.

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His relationship is asymmetrical.

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He's related.

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He's involved, but not to the same

degree and not in the same way

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that he is involved with good.

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And so this is just theological truth.

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God sends, God does God permits.

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God allows, we like these words better

because they convey a, a sense of.

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A distance between God and the act,

but we have no problem saying God sent.

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God does all things.

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God controls all things and so to

say that God sends or God allows

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God permits, we're it theologically

we're saying much the same thing.

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We're just trying to help you understand

and ourselves understand really the

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way that God relates to evil is not

the same as the way he relates to good.

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Yeah, I believe that was

the net and the NIV both.

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So NIV says animosity between,

and the net says hostility

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between which on that point is.

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A good reason why translation comparisons

can be helpful as long as you're

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using good Bibles that are out there.

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Consulting multiple translations

can give you different insight into

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the the text, so that was helpful.

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Yeah, comparing multiple translations is

a way to understand the Greek that you

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may not have studied or know yourself.

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And, and that reason for that is

there's gonna be words that different

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translations, faithful translations are

going to interpret differently and use

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different English words for, by and large,

most of the words are gonna be the same.

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But when there's words like this,

even evil spirit, it's helpful to

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compare how other translations,

again, faithful ones, use that word

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'cause That'll give you some insight.

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For somebody who doesn't know Greek into

maybe some of the particular questions

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or challenges that the word, I guess

we're talking Hebrew right now presents.

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Okay.

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So faithful translations.

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We've, we've said that a few times.

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Let's throw some that are out there.

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Just so that we give some,

some helpful guidelines.

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'cause some people may be listening

to this going, okay, you're saying

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that, but how do I know what

faithful translations would be?

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So we would say the ESV for sure, because

that's the, the text that we preach from.

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We'd say that the NASB is a faithful

translation, new American standard

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Bible, we would say Which year?

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I'm okay with with any of the

versions, the 95 is the og.

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Well, I mean that was an

update, but that's the one

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that I was first introduced to.

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But it was just recently updated to, it's

probably easier to list the versions.

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They should stay away from.

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Because there's so many

good English translations.

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Yeah.

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And they all have their

strengths and weaknesses.

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Yeah.

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There's certain translations that

we would say that's not a good one.

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Like the passion translation.

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Yeah.

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That's one that we would

say, don't do that one.

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That one's.

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And by the way, any translation that

relies only on one guy, that's gonna

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be one of the biggest red flags.

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I This maybe be saying too much.

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Minimum a yellow flag because one

person on a translation committee

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means that he makes all the decisions.

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Where with modern translations,

there's gonna be a committee of men.

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And women who are studied and skilled

with the languages before them

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and they work together to come to

a conclusion about this is a good

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translation of this particular text.

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Like the CSB or the ESV or the

NASB or what's the new one called?

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The, the, the LSB Slave.

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Yeah.

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The slave, the slave Bible,

the slave Bible, the LSB.

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But there's other ones.

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So the message is one that I like.

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But that's a transliteration,

not a translate.

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It's paraphrase.

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Paraphrase.

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Thank you.

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I like that.

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But notice it's a paraphrase.

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It's not a translation.

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And that's a big difference.

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Yeah.

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So we would say Stay

away from the passion.

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Stay away from the New World translation.

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That is the Jehovah's Witness version

of the Bible that is not authorized.

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It's not good, it's poorly translated.

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Mm-hmm.

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And even not very

beautifully translated to.

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I would say that at least with, are there

any other translations that you guys

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would say stay away from not that come

to the forefront of my mind right away.

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There are some others that are out there.

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Wasn't there an NIV that

used gender ambiguous terms?

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Not the, the traditional NIV,

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Yeah.

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Well, and that's some of the criticism

with even the NASB revisions after 95.

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Yeah.

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So yeah, this is where, this

is where we're nerding out

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together in, in the office.

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So.

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If you, how about this?

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How about this?

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What would be three translations

that you would recommend if somebody

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were to do a word comparison?

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Comparison?

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Which would you recommend?

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How about that?

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Because not everybody's not gonna have

40 different translations, but if they,

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if they didn't have any idea and there

was three that they were gonna do a word

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comparison with, what would you recommend?

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So my go-to, I have E-S-B-E-S-B,

English Standard Bible, ESV.

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I've got the net new English

translation and I've recently

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done the Legacy standard Bible.

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Those are the three that I,

I consult most regularly.

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I've got some others mixed in there,

but those are, are three that I

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would recommend that affirm those.

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Yeah I would add the CSBI

find the CSB is, is helpful.

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Yes.

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Christian Standard Bible.

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Yeah.

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Yep.

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So there you go.

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Hopefully that's a, a, a bonus.

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Just helpful homiletic interpretation.

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Hermeneutical.

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That's the word I was looking for.

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Anyways, let's jump over to our

New Testament reading, which is

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gonna be in Luke chapter eight.

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Luke chapter eight.

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We're dealing with a lot of

familiarity where we're here.

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Jesus is calming the storm, the Garris de

demoniac, which again, Luke records one.

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Matthew recorded two.

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I don't think we need to panic there.

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I think we're just talking about probably

the spokesperson between these two.

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You've got, again, the situation

where recognize the demons are

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subject to Christ, and that's

important to, to note here, just

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like I, I referenced earlier, Satan

appearing before the throne of God to.

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He needs permission before

he can afflict job here.

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The demons are subject to Christ.

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They're gonna beg Jesus to

let them enter the pigs.

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And so they can't just decide to do

whatever they want to do, especially,

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at least not in the presence of Christ.

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They have to seek permission from him.

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But you've got that scene.

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And again, because this is gentile

territory, this democ, Jesus is not

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gonna tell him to keep it quiet, but

he's gonna tell him to go tell everybody

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what you've seen and what you've heard.

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Then after this, you've got the

daughter, jairus's daughter, and the

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woman with the bleeding condition

there where Jesus heals this woman.

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I don't think passively.

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I think actively he was aware.

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I think he was drawing her

out into this expression of

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faith by saying who touched me?

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He knew being God.

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I believe He, he was aware.

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He knew because this was a healing act.

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And she says It was me.

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Meanwhile, Jairus's daughter

dies, but he says, don't worry.

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This is not death.

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She's merely sleeping and, and

Jesus restores the daughter again.

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So a lot of familiar territory

here in Luke chapter eight.

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What do you make of the fact that it

seems like the demons resist Jesus?

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You just got done saying that the,

that Jesus has authority over them.

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And yet in verse 28 the demoniac cries

out, falls down before Jesus and said with

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a loud voice, what have you to do with me

Jesus, son of the most high God I beg you,

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do not torment me, for he had commanded

the unclean spirit to come outta the man.

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So he already said that,

I want you to come out.

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And yet it seems like the

response is, well before I leave.

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What, can you help answer some

questions for me in, in the

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parallel account in Matthew?

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It's a lot cleaner and

a lot more cl clear.

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Rather, I should say that, that

Jesus did say at least once

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be gone and yet they persist.

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How do you guys understand that?

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What do you do with that?

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I think it's a, a, Jesus is still in

control, but employing all of this

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and doing all this in a, a teaching

opportunity with the disciples even like

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when he healed the blind man who first saw

people walking around like trees and then

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later was able to see clearly Jesus has a

reason behind everything that he's doing.

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In other places, we see the

demons cast out immediately.

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So it's not that Jesus couldn't do this

or that this was a demon more powerful

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because of even what they do later.

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They beg permission, but I think Jesus is.

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Teaching and even showing the authority

that he does have over them by drawing

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this one out a little bit longer.

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I would agree.

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I don't have anything to add.

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Yeah, I guess one, one point that

that just is a speculative, but I just

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wanna point it out here in verse 30,

he asks them what their name is, or

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he asked him what his name is and the

demonic Horde responds Legion, and he

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says, for many demons had entered him.

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So this is just me thinking out loud here

with you guys as I think through texts

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like this, stuff like this bothers me.

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Tracks me and it stops me.

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And I say, okay, how is this possible?

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Jesus has all authority.

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How is it possible that they,

that they're given the command

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to go and yet they don't go?

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Well, maybe one of the answers that's

possible is that in the Demonic Legion

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Allegion is, I dunno, 5,000, 6,000, I

forget the exact number that it refers

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to, but that's a, that's a technical

number for the people at the time.

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So it's possible that maybe

he did tell a demon to leave

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and then that guy does leave.

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But there's still thousands left.

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And so it's possible that Jesus is

now talking to a different demon,

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and now they're saying, well,

what do we have to do with you?

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Jesus?

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Why are you, you know, don't,

don't torture us before

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the time that's possible.

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I'm not gonna bang my hand on the

table for that, but just as I'm

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working through the text here,

that's how I dealt with that.

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I do think there is a legitimacy

to Jesus saying, I'm teaching.

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I, I want you to see how I handle this.

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That's obviously always

on the table for me.

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I think about that as well.

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But when I start thinking about questions

like this, that's one that came to mind.

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Well, it's even fascinating

that Jesus asks what.

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Well singular, but ask what is your name?

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Yeah.

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Right.

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That's not something he has to ask.

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Right?

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Right.

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That's not something that he doesn't

know or doesn't have access to

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knowing, but he asked that question.

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Oh yeah.

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Books on spiritual warfare Make the case

that there was a belief going around

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at the time that to have power over a

person, you had to know what their name

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was or to have power over an entity.

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In this case, I don't know that

Jesus needs anything like that.

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He doesn't struggle for

having lack of a name.

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But there is something interesting

about the fact that he says,

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what, what is your name?

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Almost like, you're, you're

in, you're in trouble now.

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You're getting called to account.

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I'm taking down names, buddy.

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And I'm not holding anything back.

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Another point from this text that I

always wanna point out to you, just

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because I know that today there's a

lot of confusion about this, is that

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people are more important than the pigs.

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Yeah.

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Wanna see that?

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These two demon possessed men were

worth at least I forget how there's

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a number here for how many pigs

there were, but it was more than two.

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That's not a one-to-one correlation here.

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Jesus values people far more than

he values animals, and that's

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something that we gotta keep in mind.

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There, there's, there's nothing

wrong with having pets and dogs

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and, and cats and gerbils or

chinchillas, whatever your fancy is.

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But people are more important by

orders of magnitude, and I think

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you need to remember that it's a

good time for us to be reminded.

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As much as we love animals, I love the

fact that there's, I can see on the drive

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home right now, especially with all the

traffic and the construction that's going

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on, I have to take a route that makes

me pass by one of the farms that are

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nearby, and I see the Longhorns every day.

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I think it's.

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I enjoy that.

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I enjoy the horses.

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I, I used to see a camel down frontier

no longer that got rid of the camel.

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But I like animals.

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That's my point.

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And I think God likes animals.

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God likes his creation,

but he loves his image.

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And the fact that people bear his

image give us a greater value than

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anything else in all creation.

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And that would be a good

thing for you to recall.

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Yeah.

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I'd agree.

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Can I ask one more question?

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No.

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Do we buy pastor an

animal for his birthday?

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A camel please?

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We'll, him a pig.

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Okay.

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I wanna do a camel and

pretend to be alive.

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He's Jewish.

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He couldn't eat it.

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I couldn't eat it.

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I don't even know if I

can hang out with it.

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So do you think these demons

expect to go into the pigs

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who are then going to go into.

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The water expect.

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Yeah.

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I, I would, I would say, I don't know.

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They're not omniscient, right.

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They don't possess the kind of a,

the kind of knowledge and omniscience

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that Jesus, I, I don't know if he

even tapped into his omniscience here.

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I don't think that they

have any expectations.

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I think they're asking.

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With an awareness that Jesus is

a merciful God because they know

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who he was pre-incarnate, because

the, the demons themselves were

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created before this point in time.

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So I think they know

who, well, who Jesus is.

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They're trying to avoid what

they know to be the ultimate

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end, which is their judgment.

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And they're being bound here.

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I think they're begging Jesus to show

them mercy, and surprisingly he does.

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So when the pigs go into

the water, the pigs die.

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Does that mean that the demons

die along with the pigs?

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What do you think?

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This is a question I've asked

myself since I was a kid.

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Really?

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And I don't, I don't know, but it,

it seems like that's the implication.

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It seems like that's the implication,

but from what I also know of

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the spiritual realm, right?

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The demons are not attached.

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Physically to the pigs.

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Yeah.

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So I would, I would be inclined

to say, no, they don't.

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But then it begs the question, why do

the pigs need to go into the water?

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So for them to be removed, I, two things.

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First, I, my understanding is

the angelic realm are immortal,

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not eternal, but immortal.

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Right.

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So there's no death to the angelic beings.

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Second.

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That's right.

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I think one of the reasons

potentially they went into pigs is

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the response to the town people.

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Because when the town people come out,

they're angry and they kick Jesus out.

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They say, we don't want you here because

they're angry over the, the loss of profit

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that the pigs are gone now and that's

gonna cost them and they're not gonna be

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able to sell those pigs at market anymore.

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So perhaps the demons in one last, like

we'll show you, went into the pigs,

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drove them over the cliff and the town.

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People now come out and they're

angry with Jesus and kick 'em out.

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I think that's it.

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I think that's it.

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And that's, you see the, you

see them, all the people.

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Asked him to depart.

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They were seized with great fear.

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It was 2000 pigs.

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I think that's, I think that's what

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A lot of pigs.

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It's a lot of money.

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That's a lot of pigs.

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Yeah.

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And I, I think the

demonic hoard loves death.

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Mm-hmm.

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And destruction.

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And so in whatever way they can reek.

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That kind of destruction.

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I think they want to, and

I, I don't think I, I agree.

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I don't think it kills them.

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I think it just displaces

them temporarily.

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They enjoy, for whatever

reason, to be in a host.

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I think.

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That's interesting.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Well, let's pray and they'll

be done with this episode.

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What, as we were talking about earlier,

we're, we're grateful for the abundance of

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resources, the wealth of resources that we

have of the English translations that you

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provided for us, of your word that we can.

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Consult these different translations

and see a unified theme, and yet get

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different insight into different words,

and not disparate interpretations,

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but just different glosses, different

understandings that help us to comprehend

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what you're saying more effectively.

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So I pray that we would take

advantage of these things, that we

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utilize these resources, especially

since so many of them are available

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online to us and that we would be

faithful stewards of your word.

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We pray this in Jesus name, amen.

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