According to Ryan Jeffery, Founder and Co-CEO of Ignite, the difference between a leader and a manager is that a leader doesn’t need a title. When people switch jobs due to dissatisfaction, most of the time it’s not about the work itself but conflict with the manager. But when you create a culture that is inclusive and inherently motivational, you hit that magic spot of work satisfaction.

Ryan joined Pat and Shelli to talk about the concept of discretionary effort and action and what they say about an organization. He also took some time to discuss why organizations that are able to see people on a human level will empower employees and achieve better outcomes. 

*Please note this interview was recorded in late 2019 prior to the COVID-19 outbreak.

• [00:24] - This week: Ryan Jeffery
• [00:56] - Leadership development at Ignite
• [07:18] - Manager vs. leader
• [08:59] - Empowering individuals
• [13:45] - Common vision
• [19:40] - Taking action
• [25:28] - Accepting failure
• [30:00] - Life begins at the end of your comfort zone
• [32:51] - Skiing behind the cart

Ryan Jeffery is the Founder and Co-CEO at Ignite, a learning community committed to helping today's managers become the purpose-driven leaders of tomorrow. Through weekly in-person training experiences and a network of inspiring peers, Ignite cultivates the character and competence to lead in today's changing world.

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