Special rules as of Spring 2021 that allow certain assets to forgive 100% of all the taxable gains - do your parents have any of these accounts?
Quote for the episode: "The current cost basis rules are kind of the same thing right now where, instead of skipping a line, you get to skip all the built up unrealized gains that may have accumulated over time.”
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Joseph Okaly:Hello, and welcome to the fifth episode of the Your
Joseph Okaly:Parents Money Mindset series. Last episode, we covered some of
Joseph Okaly:the potential headaches that can arise in inheriting assets and
Joseph Okaly:some great steps to avoid them ahead of time. Today's episode
Joseph Okaly:is titled step up, the gain is gone, where we'll cover some
Joseph Okaly:special rules as they currently exist that eliminates all the
Joseph Okaly:built up gains and the taxes that go along with it from
Joseph Okaly:certain inherited assets. I say 'as currently exist', because as
Joseph Okaly:of today's spring 2021 recording, the current
Joseph Okaly:administration is in the steps of proposing what would be very
Joseph Okaly:significant adjustments to the taxable gains code. If and when
Joseph Okaly:these get passed in the future, what is covered today would need
Joseph Okaly:to be adjusted potentially. You will learn today what you need
Joseph Okaly:to know about how the rule is situated currently, and what you
Joseph Okaly:can do and help your parents to be aware of to take full
Joseph Okaly:advantage of it. When I went to Disney with my wife, Lauren,
Joseph Okaly:before we had kids, it was way easier to move around. Two
Joseph Okaly:adults can fly around the parks, we hit pretty much everything
Joseph Okaly:over just two days. The one thing that can throw a wrench
Joseph Okaly:into the whole mix, though, is really long lines for the ride
Joseph Okaly:you want to get on. There is this one ride at Hollywood
Joseph Okaly:Studios called Toy Story Midway Mania, where you sit down in
Joseph Okaly:this cart that they have with 3d glasses on and spin around
Joseph Okaly:shooting in different carnival style games at the digital
Joseph Okaly:screens. The problem was when we got there, we hit one heck of a
Joseph Okaly:line. We were debating what to do, should we go somewhere else
Joseph Okaly:circle back around. All of a sudden kind of out of nowhere,
Joseph Okaly:this side door opened, a cast member asked how many were in
Joseph Okaly:our party, we answered two. And we were ushered through this
Joseph Okaly:door up the side entrance all the way to the front of the
Joseph Okaly:line. It was a beautiful thing.
Joseph Okaly:The current cost basis rules are kind of the same thing right
Joseph Okaly:now, where instead of skipping a line, you get to skip all the
Joseph Okaly:built up unrealized gains that may have accumulated over time.
Joseph Okaly:So what you need to know is first how the rules currently
Joseph Okaly:work. Let's say you bought ABC stock for $100. This is what
Joseph Okaly:they call your cost basis, which is just a fancy way of saying
Joseph Okaly:this is what you put in of your own money. You put in $100. So
Joseph Okaly:now let's say that ABC stock went up to $150. That means you
Joseph Okaly:gained 50, right? You put in 100, it's now 150, you gained
Joseph Okaly:50. However, you do not get taxed on this 50 until you
Joseph Okaly:actually sell ABC stock. So it's called an unrealized gain
Joseph Okaly:because you have not realized it yet since you haven't sold it.
Joseph Okaly:So where the stepped up basis rule comes into effect then is
Joseph Okaly:if you passed away. The person who inherited the stock gets to
Joseph Okaly:step up this basis or step up this assumed price that you
Joseph Okaly:originally paid for it to the current value. So they inherit
Joseph Okaly:the stock at the current price of 150 and we increase or step
Joseph Okaly:up that cost basis number for what you originally paid from
Joseph Okaly:the original 100 to the current price of 150 when you passed. So
Joseph Okaly:since your beneficiary's assumed cost is also now 150, just like
Joseph Okaly:the current price, if your beneficiary sold it today, there
Joseph Okaly:would be no tax at all paid on it. This whole concept is only
Joseph Okaly:applicable to non-retirement accounts. So just make sure
Joseph Okaly:that's clear. I'll say it again. It's only applicable to
Joseph Okaly:non-retirement accounts. IRAs, 401(k)s, annuities or any other
Joseph Okaly:retirement type of an account have their own taxation rules.
Joseph Okaly:And so the stepped up basis does not apply. So what you can do
Joseph Okaly:again is ask some great questions to your parents to
Joseph Okaly:make sure this is something they are aware of ahead of time. In
Joseph Okaly:general when supplementing income and retirement, the rule
Joseph Okaly:of thumb is to first take from your non-retirement accounts,
Joseph Okaly:then your tax deferred retirement accounts. And then
Joseph Okaly:from your tax free retirement accounts. So what that would
Joseph Okaly:look like is any joint or general individual account, so
Joseph Okaly:any non-retirement kind of account first, then from any of
Joseph Okaly:your traditional IRAs or 401(k)s basically any account that you
Joseph Okaly:put money into and you received the tax deduction when you did
Joseph Okaly:that. Then finally, from any Roth IRAs, or Roth 401(k)s,
Joseph Okaly:which are the ones that grow tax free. Again, as of today, your
Joseph Okaly:non-retirement accounts generally incur the least amount
Joseph Okaly:of tax, allowing your traditional IRAs and 401(k)s
Joseph Okaly:which are taxed at 100% as ordinary income, to delay taking
Joseph Okaly:any of those distributions. And finally, your Roth accounts that
Joseph Okaly:grow 100% tax free, to let those grow as long as possible. Now,
Joseph Okaly:everybody's situation is different. However, they may
Joseph Okaly:have multiple joint or individual non-retirement
Joseph Okaly:accounts to choose from. If you ask your parents questions such
Joseph Okaly:as 'Have you ever heard of this stepped up cost basis thing? Did
Joseph Okaly:you know that you have accounts that will receive this step up
Joseph Okaly:and basis and kind of forgive the tax? Do you consider the
Joseph Okaly:cost basis before you choose where you're supplementing your
Joseph Okaly:income from?' Then you can potentially open up a
Joseph Okaly:conversation to make sure they're aware of the current
Joseph Okaly:rules. My guess is that you'll be met with kind of blank
Joseph Okaly:stares. As always just provide the information for their own
Joseph Okaly:consideration unless they ask for direct input. But you can
Joseph Okaly:just say that, 'Hey, I was listening to this podcast on
Joseph Okaly:stepped up basis and so I wanted to pass it along because it
Joseph Okaly:could potentially avoid a lot of taxation when people are
Joseph Okaly:inheriting assets.' I'm sure they don't want to pay taxes to
Joseph Okaly:the government unnecessarily. So it again is just help for them.
Joseph Okaly:Their advisor should really already be considering all these
Joseph Okaly:items when creating a distribution plan for them, as
Joseph Okaly:maybe their joint account doesn't have a lot of built up
Joseph Okaly:gains, and therefore it should be distributed first, while
Joseph Okaly:their individual account might have a lot of built up gains so
Joseph Okaly:let's delay taking it from there. Because you know, if God
Joseph Okaly:forbid something happens, all the gains will get wiped away.
Joseph Okaly:So a quick summary from today is to be aware that the current
Joseph Okaly:rules again as of this spring 2021 recording are that
Joseph Okaly:non-retirement gains are essentially wiped away for the
Joseph Okaly:individual inheriting the non-retirement assets. The
Joseph Okaly:second thing is to make your parents aware of this through
Joseph Okaly:some of those general questions we touched on because quite
Joseph Okaly:frankly, we find very few people have had this explained to them.
Joseph Okaly:Thanks for tuning in today. As always, if you are able to
Joseph Okaly:implement what we can cover, then as always, that's
Joseph Okaly:fantastic. You have less to worry about than before and
Joseph Okaly:could focus more on just enjoying life. If you're wanting
Joseph Okaly:help with these things, though, or have questions you need help
Joseph Okaly:in clarifying, check out the Ask Joe section on the show's
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Joseph Okaly:make a big difference. The next episode is Inheriting IRAs, More
Joseph Okaly:Limited Options, where we're going to cover some recent tax
Joseph Okaly:code adjustments that have been approved that drastically
Joseph Okaly:changed your options when inheriting an IRA from your
Joseph Okaly:parents, and what your parents can potentially do ahead of time
Joseph Okaly:to try and minimize the total long term taxes that will be
Joseph Okaly:paid because of it. Until next week. Thanks for joining me
Joseph Okaly:today and I look forward to connecting with you again soon.
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