Puppyhood is magical, exhausting, and nothing like the Instagram version this episode is the honest conversation every new puppy parent needs.

In this episode of The Yappy Hour, host Nathan Dunleavy talks with Carrie of Carrie's Canines and Friends, a dog trainer with a decade of experience helping first-time puppy parents navigate the toughest early months. Carrie draws on her own journey - including raising a reactive dog - to unpack sleep deprivation, biting, puppy blues, and why building relationship and bond matters more than quick obedience wins.

If you're in the thick of puppyhood (or preparing for it), this one will make you feel a lot less alone.

In this episode:

✅ Why "puppy blues" are completely normal and why even experienced trainers feel them

✅ The real reason your puppy is nipping, jumping, or biting (hint: it's rarely about defiance)

✅ How much sleep puppies actually need, and why overtiredness fuels bad behaviour

✅ Why your puppy isn't a "blank slate" and how genetics and breeding shape who they become

✅ How to build the relationship and bond that makes recall, lead work, and everything else easier

✅ What socialisation really means (it's not meeting every dog and every person)

✅ Why asking before letting your puppy be petted by strangers matters

✅ How to set your puppy up for the life you actually want to live with them, pub trips, cottages, and all

Key takeaways:

• Puppy blues are a normal part of the adjustment and it's okay to find it hard, even when you love your puppy

• Don't take water away before bed to manage toilet training; work through the overnight stage humanely instead

• Hold off on expensive toys and beds early on as they're likely to be chewed before your puppy grows into them

• Prioritise relationship and bond above obedience and the rest follows more easily once that's in place

• Socialisation is about calm, positive exposure to the world in short bursts, not overwhelming your puppy with every dog and person you meet

• Training doesn't end after a six-week puppy course - it continues for life

Carries Canines website

Carrie's Canines & Friends Facebook page

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

Welcome to the Yappy Hour, powered by

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Yappily, the podcast for dog lovers.

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Dog parents, and anyone who

wants to deepen their bond

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with their four-legged friends.

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I'm your host, Nathan Dunleavy, and today

we are diving into the world of puppies.

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Now, if you've ever bought a puppy

home, you'll know just how magical those

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first cuddles can be, but you'll also

know that it's not all wagon towels.

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And cute Instagram moments.

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It can be tough, overwhelming,

and quite frankly exhausting

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to explore this properly.

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I'm joined by my friend Carrie of Carrie's

canines and friends who has helped

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countless families navigate Puppyhood

with her training programs, memberships,

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and practical down to earth advice.

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Today we'll be lifting the lid on what

life of a puppy really looks like.

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Why first time puppy parents often

feel blindsided and how we can

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better prepare for the reality.

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So grab a cup of tea, settle

in, and let's get started.

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Oh, but you might wanna keep

your pup occupied with a

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chew for the next hour or so.

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Let's get into it.

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How are you doing?

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Carrie: am good.

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Thank you.

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How are you?

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

Very good.

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So.

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Carrie, before we get into the world of

puppies, can you just tell us a little

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bit about you, your journey into dog

training and what led you to create puppy

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programs and your membership, please?

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Carrie: Yes, I'm Carrie.

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I own and run Carrie's

canines and friends.

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I was about to say own three dogs then.

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So very recent, fortunately I lost

one of mine, so automatic still.

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So I have two dogs.

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I did have a little CPO

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

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Carrie: I've lost recently.

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I own a C cross spaniel who is Maisie,

and I have Envy, who's a working cocker.

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So I obviously love Spaniels.

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I've been going for nine,

it'll be 10 years next year.

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I've been running my

business for me 10 years now.

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Wow.

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Carrie: so I've been dog trainer

pretty much the same amount of time.

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Obvious, do my training

before I set the business up.

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Yeah, I came to it 'cause I, I've

been there, I've been there with a

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yes.

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Carrie: knowing what to do.

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I've probably had all the same problems

that everyone else has had with puppies.

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

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Carrie: my first own.

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I class it as my first own diagnosis.

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Some wall C clients.

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah,

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Carrie: for the first time, having

your own dogs, very different.

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So compared to

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: it is.

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Carrie: it?

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah,

and that's, that's what people get.

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Like, oh yeah, I've had dogs for years

with the family, but when you own a dog

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and you are that guardian, that sole

provider, like I didn't have any dogs

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until 11 years ago, so I didn't grow up

with dogs, so I'm quite a late bloomer.

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So it was a big shock to the system.

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I.

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Carrie: is, and I think

that's what people go through.

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

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Yeah, it's brilliant.

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And you've been going, I didn't

even know, so carry your personal

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friend and colleague of mine.

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So it is so lovely to have you on.

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I didn't know you'd been going that

long, so that's a really good achievement

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that, you know, been running your

business for as long as you have.

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'cause it's can be tough sometimes.

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So yeah.

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Well done.

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I'm really pleased for you.

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Carrie: it's been going that long.

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And before that I was a dog walker for

a separate company, so before I became a

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yes.

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Carrie: from my career.

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So I used to work in the fashion industry.

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was trained to grow in the

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yes.

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Carrie: before I cha changed

my career completely.

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So I wanted to work with dogs

and I enjoy working with people.

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I mean, I know someone else

that was in the fashion CRI

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and they've come with dogs.

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My background's obviously corporate

banking, so it's funny how all

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our journeys lead to where we are.

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And you mentioned, obviously you,

you knew you've been in the shoes of.

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Pet parents, pet guardians.

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I've got an SA dog that sat

in my lap at the moment, so

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that's why I got trained in sa.

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We both like train together

in doing the same SA course.

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That's how we met.

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But it's mad how everyone I speak

to, they get into it because

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of like their own dogs or it's,

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Carrie: that's

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

know what I mean?

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Carrie: I owned a reactive dog and

I didn't know what to do with him.

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But the difference is he was a seven

and a half stone dog that reacted.

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So he was a large breed black.

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So other dogs quite often

don't like black dogs.

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yes.

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Carrie: he was lunging.

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He was going on back his back

legs and I was going home in tears

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going, I don't understand why this

dog is such a loving dog at home.

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And was turning to my back

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Mm-hmm.

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Carrie: And that's when I started

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Wow.

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Carrie: how, 'cause the answers

I was getting weren't nice.

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When I was phoning

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Now,

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Carrie: I was like,

this doesn't feel right.

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that's started leaking

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: yeah.

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Carrie: how can I help him myself?

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And here we are.

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I'm a doc trainer.

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah,

well as we know, there's still a lot

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of old style traditional dog train out

there, and that's all I knew 11 years ago.

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And that was all it was.

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So kind of about, and obviously

we've moved on, you know, since then.

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When, when I got my poodle, I first

torpedo willow, that's when I realized

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there was a better way and a nice,

kinder, ethical way to train your dog.

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They're a bit like you.

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Thank you so much for that.

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Loved li I've learned something now.

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I've known you for.

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Four or five years now.

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But I learned something new every

day, every day's a school day.

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So Curry, what do you love most

then about working with puppies

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and first time guardians?

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Carrie: I always said, who

just wants work puppies?

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But I know quite a few dog trainers that

don't actually want to work with puppies.

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I love

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

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Carrie: I love starting to under

dogs and understanding actually

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what they've got come home.

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'cause everyone has this like.

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They're raised into glasses and stuff

of what it's gonna be like and people

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don't obviously really quite tell

you what's gonna really, it's gonna

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really be like, and yeah, showing

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Mm

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Carrie: what their dogs are capable of.

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We tend to

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: mm

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Carrie: dogs a lot and actually

get 'em to show them that the dogs

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can think themselves quite a bit.

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You've just got to give

them a bit of a chance.

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We have to guide them.

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Gosh,

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

That's it.

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Carrie: to guide them a lot of

the way, but also just get them

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

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Carrie: and then guide

them with that choices.

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

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No, I love that.

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Absolutely love that.

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And it's funny you say about dog

trainings not wet and puppies, but

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when I was doing predominantly dog

training, I loved the puppies because

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Carrie: book.

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: I.

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It's just so important to

get them while they're young.

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You know, we've got that key sensitive

socialization period that we know about.

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I just think it's so important just

to, to get them while they're young.

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So before bad habits creep in.

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And you know, obviously there's a

lot of, like we said, first time

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dog goes, there's a lot of mis

mis advice online and on TV shows.

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So if we can get in there while

they're young and sometimes those

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puppies then stay with you, you know.

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Carrie: it's, I always say with

Google it's just like health things.

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If you search up a health problem,

you'll either get the answer you

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want or the answer you don't want.

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Dog training is exactly the same,

so I, it was one of the things I say

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to my clients in the first session,

quite often on the phone, don't

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Google it if I don't dunno the answer.

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I know enough dog trainer friends

that one of them will have the answer.

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Please

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Dr.

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Google's got a lot to answer for.

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Carrie: chat GPT now.

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Shouldn't it?

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Don't chat GPT.

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

Oh yeah, don't chat.

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Yeah, don't AI it.

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Yeah, that's a whole

different story anyway.

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Alright, so moving on to part two then.

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We mentioned about the

rose tinted glasses.

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So this is what our next section's

all about, the rose tinted glasses for

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puppy guardianship, puppy parent ship.

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So let's start with the big one.

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When people bring home a puppy, what do

you think they're least prepared for?

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I'm laughing already.

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Carrie: it really changes and every

new puppy owner will have different

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problems as which I talk through with the

owners when they're really struggling.

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So sleepless nights is

one people struggle with.

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Sometimes it's toilet

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

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Carrie: A lot of it's the biting.

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But you might get

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yes.

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Carrie: that's sleeping through

the night straight away.

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It's come from a really good breeder.

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It's sleeping through the night,

but God, the bitings horrendous.

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Or you might have another one

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Mm.

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Carrie: sleeping through the night,

but actually no issues of biting.

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So it really, this all

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah,

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Carrie: you get your puppy from

genetics, what breed you've bought.

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Some people don't sometimes

research the breed well enough.

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I don't think.

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

no, they don't.

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Carrie: roast tinted glasses on that.

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And don't Ida Dax owner.

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And she was like, so when I

was speaking to all these Dax

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owner, why did they not tell me?

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These are some of the traits that

the dogs had when I said, you know,

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you've got a barky breed, don't you?

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And she went, no, I didn't.

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How much did you research the breed?

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So again, it's something I talk about

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

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Carrie: what do you know what you've got?

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What is your job bred to do?

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I've been told once, yeah.

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Oh, I've just bought a pet dog.

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Yeah.

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Oh.

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Carrie: Doesn't quite work like that.

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Big

on education, like pet parents and

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big on research in the breed as well.

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Like what were they originally bred for?

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Because sometimes you need to tap

into those instincts, don't you?

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Or if those needs are not being

met, that's where some of the

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problematic behaviors become alike.

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Carrie: Oh, massively with the spaniel.

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Your spaniels, your golden retrievers.

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Oh, they keep carrying

stuff around the house.

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Well, that's what your

daughter's been bred to do.

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this is when they go,

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

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Carrie: dog brings me a present.

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Every time I get home.

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I'm like, your dog isn't

bringing you present.

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Sorry, your dog is just carrying

something as it naturally feels

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really good and releasing those really

good chemicals and going, awesome.

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I've got something to carry.

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It feels amazing.

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And they're like, oh, brings me a present.

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

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Carrie: I'm pleased.

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Do not take that thing off.

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Your puppy, let carry

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

No, do not.

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Carrie: something called

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

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Yeah, do let, or don't take or do

swapsies or, you know, a, a good drop it.

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And you just, just rewind a little bit.

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You mentioned about the puppy biting.

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It's like they're little

land sharks, aren't they?

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So,

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Carrie: biting is super, super.

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Yeah.

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It's a, it is a tough time to get through.

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah,

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Carrie: the biting, the sleeping,

those like us after the towards

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you went off to hundreds.

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Yeah.

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

no, it's okay.

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Carrie: people like can

really struggle with.

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And it's just all about redirecting.

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And everyone's like, yeah, it's

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah,

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Carrie: toys on the floor.

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Yeah, they don't care.

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They don't want the toys.

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They're after you.

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They want your attention.

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So you just have to show

them what's acceptable.

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And with, with

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: yeah.

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Carrie: sort, I always say, what?

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You've got to think about your puppy.

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What do you want your

older dog to be like?

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You have to start treating your

puppy like that straight away.

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

Oh, I really like that.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I had got a funny story about a puppy

when I did a one-to-one, the woman like.

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She, she wasn't like particularly

a doggy person but she said, oh

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the dog keeps going for my pom-poms

on the back of my slippers.

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So she had like a pair of like slipper

boots with pom-poms on the back.

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And I'm like, well, of course it's

going for the pompoms because there's

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this thing dangling around and to her

puppy, it's like the best thing ever.

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So I said, do you either need to cut the

pompoms off or lose the bloody slippers?

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She couldn't work out why he was

going for the pompom on his lips.

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Yeah, so we wanna be setting

the puppies up for success.

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So, you know, you need to puppy

proof your home, your clothes don't

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have your best pair of like jeans on

your Calvin Klein jeans or whatever.

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If you don't want your puppy chewing on.

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Carrie: Completely agree.

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Yeah, your life get get turned upside

down, not just for those first few weeks

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realistic iss the first year before you

are putting outfits into your life more.

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

that's it.

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Right.

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Let's move on to that.

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And so why do you think there's

still such a rose tinted view of

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puppy puppyhood, even when there's

so much information out there?

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Carrie: information overload, isn't it?

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information

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Hmm.

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Carrie: And people have, they

speak to friends and stuff as well?

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Oh yeah.

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Having a puppy is amazing.

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Yeah, the rose into glasses.

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If I tell you what my first dog

did, he pulled down a washing line.

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He, what else did he do?

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Chew a pair of glasses.

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Chewed a laptop, cable.

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What else did he eat?

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He ate a, quite a lot of things.

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far

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

Oh my God,

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Carrie: you don't know what you

don't know is what I say to people.

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: yes.

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Carrie: learn along the way.

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I have been there.

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Which I think sometimes can help with

clients understand a bit more because

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then they go, oh, it's doing this.

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I'm like, bet your dogs were perfect.

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I was like, I've been there.

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I wasn't always a dog trainer.

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

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That's the thing, like with the person

down the park or the friend or the family

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member, like they mean well, but, but

just because they've had a dog for 20

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years doesn't mean like they're an expert.

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Carrie: exactly.

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And everyone thinks that when they've

only one dog, they're an expert and

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yeah, they, they tell you all the

good things about having a puppy.

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And don't get me wrong,

having a puppy is awesome.

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I love having puppies, but

my God, they are hard work.

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

Yeah, we're not, we're not here

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just obviously dis and puppies.

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Like, don't get me wrong, I've had seven

dogs from puppies and I've bred and

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I've brought puppies into the world.

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I've delivered them.

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So, you know, that's why I've

now got seven dogs, because

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I've had seven puppies.

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So I've been through it, but I

can honestly say, I dunno if I'd

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have a puppy again, but we're not.

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I know we're not dissing puppies.

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I love puppies.

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Like just, we're trying to make

people aware of just obviously

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everything you know, you need to

be, be, you need to be prepared for,

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Carrie: feel okay.

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It's okay to go.

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Oh my God, this is hard work.

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One of the things I talk about is in

one of my first sessions is puppy blues.

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Puppy blues is a thing.

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I have puffy blues in my

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

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Carrie: and I'm a doctorate and I'm

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

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Carrie: to do know what I'm doing.

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I do know what I'm doing, but I

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

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Carrie: those thoughts of.

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older dogs were doing absolutely okay.

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I've brought a puppy into my life.

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I'm trying to run my own business.

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I have to see clients and answer

calls and do zoom calls, and how

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am I supposed to get this puppy?

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And I don't wanna get it wrong.

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Dog training, my puppy can't be wrong.

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Can it?

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: I know,

I know we do put ourselves under pressure,

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like, you know, we should have the best

behaved dog, but it's not always the.

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Carrie: Yeah.

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And every, and everyone gets poppy blues.

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It's an absolute normal thing to have.

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and if my client has said

to me, no, I've not had it.

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I love this puppy.

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It's awesome.

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I'm having the best time.

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Usually you're about a week later they

go, I've had that thought, Carrie, and

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I said, it's okay to have that thought.

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Bit of

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

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Well, yeah.

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Let's just move on to our

final question in this section.

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So if you could sit down with every

first time puppy parent, before they

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even bring their puppy home, what's

the one truth you'd want to tell them?

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Carrie: The one truth.

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Just take each day as it comes.

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And actually quite often I do

get puppies, owners get me in

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before they get the puppies home.

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

I am glad you said that.

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I was gonna touch on that.

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Yeah, so like these pre prep

sessions, like puppy prep.

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Carrie: I'm talking

through a lot of stuff.

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Your problem behaviors.

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I'm doing development stages.

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We're talking about body language.

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it's setting the puppy up.

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Success.

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We're talking about how to create

training correctly, get overnight.

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And you get me in doing that four.

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You're gonna set

yourselves up for success.

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Oh God, yeah.

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One thing definitely not to do.

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Don't buy the expensive toys and

harnesses and everything else.

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The puppy

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: No.

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Carrie: and it is going to wreck when I

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: No.

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Carrie: and they've got brand new beds.

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I'm like, yeah, put that in the cupboard.

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We'll get that on six months.

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It's a

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

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Carrie: but your pocket will

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

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Yes.

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And then that's gonna

make them frustrated.

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They've wrecked the expensive

bed and made a mess.

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Like, now I wish more

pet parents did do that.

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I had a few people do, do what you've just

said, like these pre prep sessions, but,

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and I did try, try to sort of market 'em,

but I just wish I felt every pet parent.

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Like there should be like some

sort of licensing or whatever.

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Every pet parent should always, you know,

like sometimes like apparently if you

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are a certain religion, you have to go.

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If you're gonna get married, you

go to these counseling sessions.

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I feel like puffy parents need

to go to like free or free

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sessions with a dog trader.

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Yeah, they do because

I had one client do it.

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We did the session and then they were

getting a puppy the next day and I'm

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like, no, we need more time to prepare.

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I'm glad they did it,

but we needed more time.

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Carrie: just helps 'em get

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

But yeah, can,

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Carrie: away and then straight away you're

not coming to the train with problems.

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: yeah.

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Carrie: up for success straight

away as much as we possibly can.

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

Yeah, I love that.

451

Can you just imagine if we did have like

puppy, pre puppy counseling session?

452

Carrie: Well, there might

be a market for that.

453

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: I

think there might been, do you know

454

what we are sort of like counselors

to the, to the humans as well.

455

Like, 'cause they're pulling their

hair at their sleep deprived.

456

Apparently.

457

I don't have children.

458

It's like having a newborn

baby, so, you know, they forget.

459

Carrie: told are worse than a new

460

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yes.

461

Worse than a newborn baby.

462

Yeah.

463

Carrie: Has a friend

464

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

that's wild.

465

Yeah.

466

Carrie: the puppy was more hard

work than all of the children.

467

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

I can't, I can't believe that.

468

But anyway.

469

Right.

470

So our next section is the hard

bits then that nobody talks about.

471

Sleep def, we've, we've

just spoken about some.

472

So sleep deprivation, toilet training,

accidents, nipping, crying all night.

473

Puppies are hard work,

but they are rewarding.

474

But what are the most common struggles

that you are seeing at the moment

475

that new puppy parents are facing?

476

Carrie: is again, this, this, the sleep.

477

And people don't realize how hard it

is when you're not getting the sleep.

478

And I have people go, well, I've

been told to take the water away.

479

Let's take the water away before

the puppy goes to bed, because they

480

won't need the toilet, will they?

481

My response is, if I tell you tonight

you cannot have a drink after eight

482

o'clock, what are you all gonna want

to do for the rest of the night?

483

Is have a drink?

484

You'll be thirsty.

485

Why we shouldn't allow

our dogs to be thirsty?

486

'cause we want to toilet

train them the quick.

487

It's, I think it's inhumane.

488

To be honest, you shouldn't

be taking the water

489

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Hmm.

490

Carrie: the puppy.

491

You just have to work through it.

492

I

493

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: No.

494

Carrie: it was Envy was a puppy.

495

I still call her puppy.

496

She's four and a half.

497

I forgot how hard the overnights

were and I was like, oh God.

498

I've got a new sympathy for my clients

once again, because I'm absolutely

499

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

500

Carrie: work.

501

The biting iss hard

502

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

503

Carrie: It depends what

you want to focus on.

504

For me, when the puppy comes home,

I'm focused on relationship and

505

bond with my dogs most importantly.

506

And toilet training, 'cause I

just don't want, don't want them.

507

We in the house if I'm completely on it.

508

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Mm

509

Carrie: things

510

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: mm.

511

Carrie: And the other stuff

I lived with my parents.

512

I'm living there around minute but at

the time, and they've got thin skin.

513

So for me, biting was massively to be on

514

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yes.

515

Carrie: of.

516

I had piles of toys

showing it again and again.

517

This is what you and her response was.

518

Th no 30 seconds.

519

She would stand a toy.

520

I mean, less than 30 seconds.

521

Oh, that toy's boring.

522

I'm going to bite you.

523

And I was like, here's another toy.

524

And it wasn't one or two toys.

525

I was going through 10 toys.

526

Here's number one, here's number.

527

We'll play retrieve, we'll

play retrieve 30 seconds board.

528

Again, I'm gonna bite you and I mean

she was going launching you, but for

529

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

530

Carrie: So you find the

thing for your lifestyle

531

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

532

Carrie: fixing first.

533

Sorry.

534

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

535

No, no.

536

And I think it's important not

to, you know, overload it all but

537

also bearing in mind that they're

not meaning to do it, are they?

538

This is the thing.

539

They don't mean it, like they're, they're

learning and it's this new scary place

540

with all these different smiles and sound

have been taken away from their little

541

mates and their mom and the people that's

been, you know, the breed or whatever.

542

So.

543

You know, we need to give 'em a little

bit of slack that they, they don't

544

mean it, and it's a big, it's big

and it's scary for them, you know?

545

Carrie: just attention, they

do biting, they do jumping for

546

attention and I always describe it as

547

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

548

Carrie: guidance like

you do with children.

549

You go to show the

550

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Mm-hmm.

551

Carrie: would like them to do, but also

go, I wouldn't like you to do that, but

552

rather, rather than just going, no, my

dog does, my dog doesn't listen to know.

553

That's what I get.

554

A lot of my dog doesn't know what no is.

555

When I tell 'em no, they ignore me.

556

And I'm like, well, have you showed

them something else to do instead?

557

like, if you told me, no, I don't.

558

What, what am I supposed to do?

559

I'll just do the thing again.

560

Like a childhood.

561

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

562

Yeah.

563

I think I was once told that

dogs don't really understand.

564

No.

565

But I dunno how much

truth there is in that.

566

Carrie: don't

567

Particularly do.

568

'Cause it, again, you're

saying no to a lot of things.

569

dogs.

570

First, you need to be, if you're

teaching a dog, are down, that

571

means tummy on the floor for me.

572

And if you want me to get

off something, I use off.

573

If I use down for both.

574

Your dog's confused.

575

So how can they not be

576

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yes.

577

Yeah, that's a good one actually.

578

I was, I'm I to say about

the down and off thing.

579

What I was gonna say is

over tiredness, bity Bity.

580

Carrie: Massive,

581

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

582

Carrie: down for a nap

just like you do a baby.

583

If you do not do that, your

biting is worth the jumping

584

up is everything is a worse.

585

And people go, oh my dog, my

dog won't go down for a nap.

586

And I was like, well,

you just have enforce it.

587

Your puppies

588

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

589

Carrie: 18 rounds, 20 hours of

sleep and have 24 to begin with.

590

And they're

591

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah,

592

Carrie: my probably

probably gets about 12.

593

I'm like, that's where

you've got the problems.

594

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: I know.

595

They don't realize, they don't realize

that they need that amount and then

596

they don't realize, obviously like

a child, they're overti, so they

597

are gonna be more jumping by you.

598

Carrie: Yeah, yeah.

599

That's, yeah, that's a really one

that does come up actually, that

600

they just don't get enough sleep.

601

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

602

And then I used to tell 'em to do a sleep

diary and you'd be, then that's when they

603

were amazed at how much sleep they weren't

getting the, the puppy, not the parent.

604

Carrie: Yeah.

605

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

How do you.

606

No.

607

I know.

608

How do you help people balance

that love and excitement?

609

Oh, you know, it is exciting.

610

New puppy.

611

So cute.

612

With the reality of frustrate,

frustration, guilt, and feeling like

613

they're failing in inverted comm.

614

Carrie: because people don't wanna get

it wrong, which doesn't sound good.

615

We, none of us like to get it wrong.

616

We want to get it completely

right floppies, don't we?

617

tend just to enjoy

618

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Hmm.

619

Carrie: Yeah, enjoy your puppy.

620

Your puppy is not a puppy for long and

all of a sudden they are four and a half.

621

I've got MV over here, four and

a half years old and you dunno

622

where that puppy time has gone.

623

Enjoy them.

624

But just think about, I was trying

someone a bit about, I hate using

625

the word like rules and stuff,

but we all need rules in our life.

626

Yeah.

627

And 'cause their dog was doing

a little bit of barking and then

628

she goes, oh, he's being kook.

629

She gave him a treat.

630

I went, yeah, I don't do that.

631

You've just told me to do the

right thing for barking at you.

632

So think about again what I said

earlier, what do you want your

633

dog to be like when they grow up?

634

Remember these little things

puppies sometimes are quite cute.

635

It's not cute, and they're a big

dog, you are like, actually, I

636

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Mm.

637

Carrie: when the pro time.

638

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

639

Yeah.

640

Brilliant.

641

Do you think we do enough as a society

to support new puppy guardians, or are

642

people left just to figure it out alone?

643

Carrie: Supporting, I suppose you, I

suppose I sometimes think about people

644

in the street coming over to your puppy.

645

Oh,

646

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Oh yeah.

647

Carrie: who doesn't?

648

Again, we all do.

649

We see a puppy.

650

I'm like, I'm go say hello to the puppy.

651

But a lot of people will come

straight over to your puppy and start

652

stroking a puppy without asking.

653

If I was

654

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

I hate that.

655

Carrie: my child and you came

over and tried to straight my

656

child's head, what would happen?

657

But why is it acceptable for

you to come over and straight

658

my dog's head without asking me?

659

I find that really weird.

660

I'm not relating children's dogs before

anyone complains, but I'm just saying

661

for me, they're part of my family

and I and you are invading my space.

662

used to

663

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

664

Carrie: puppy class and what of my puppies

now, so I used to run classes as well.

665

Teaching the middle, I like

middle anyway, but what,

666

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Oh,

667

Carrie: but what I used to

668

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

I like middle.

669

Carrie: someone, if you're someone who's

coming over to straight your puppy, you

670

put your dog into middle, someone that's

very unlikely to go between your legs.

671

I

672

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Mm.

673

Carrie: have someone come back

to me once and went, Carrie, you

674

know that thing you promised me?

675

She went, someone went between

my legs to strip me puppy.

676

I was like, I was so

677

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Oh,

678

Carrie: It's only happened once.

679

And then he said Years.

680

So that's not too bad, but.

681

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: well,

person went in between their legs.

682

Carrie: So you complete

invasion of face, isn't it?

683

So really ask if you see a puppy

in the in the street, just ask the

684

owner if you can say hello or not.

685

And I've Eric, who I've recently lost, it

was massively overwhelming for him, but he

686

was, CPU looked like a teddy bears puppy.

687

So how many people once say hello to him?

688

And I had to keep saying no.

689

Sorry.

690

You can't say hello.

691

No you can't.

692

People just come over and str him.

693

'cause you look like a teddy bear.

694

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

Yeah, I hate that.

695

Carrie: And you must get poodles and

stuff as well when they're young.

696

Oh, they're cute.

697

Look how cute they are.

698

Yeah.

699

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

Yeah, they are.

700

'cause they're like teddy bears as well.

701

But yeah, it comes back

to boundaries again.

702

Right.

703

Let's move on then.

704

So beyond puppyhood and long-term

success, what are some of the most

705

important foundations owners should

focus on in that first year that

706

really set their dog up for life?

707

Carrie: I am going back

to relationship and bond.

708

If you've got relationship and

bond with your dog, the other

709

stuff honestly just comes easier.

710

Everyone will come to me with, I

want recall and I want lead work.

711

They are two of the hardest behaviors to

teach, but people didn't understand that.

712

so I'm like, get the relationship

and bond having fun with your puppy,

713

which I've not mentioned today.

714

Having fun and playing your

puppy is massively important.

715

It builds your

716

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Hmm.

717

Carrie: It also starts teaching things

like a tr behavior and a relieve it.

718

So all these things can build into

each other, but enjoying your time.

719

Your puppy, your puppy will

go when they're off leave.

720

Well, what we doing next?

721

be turning and checking you on your walk.

722

Which way are we going next?

723

What's gonna happen next?

724

Walking down the road, they're

checking with you, where

725

are we going, what we doing?

726

Rather than having to be really strict

in command you, you must stay to heal and

727

they're checking with you all the time.

728

So if you've got a good

relationship and bond, the lead

729

work and stuff will, will come.

730

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

Yeah, no.

731

So important to work on

that bond and relationship.

732

Yeah, definitely love that.

733

Do you find that some pet parents,

puppy guardians are so focused on

734

getting through puppyhood that they

forget that the journey then continues?

735

Carrie: Six week puppy course.

736

I've done the six week puppy course.

737

I'm

738

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

That's it.

739

I'm done.

740

I'm done.

741

Trainings for life.

742

I used to say.

743

Carrie: And it is for live.

744

Someone asked me once do you

always take treats in your walk?

745

I said, yes.

746

Excuse me.

747

I said, yes.

748

I said, but do I always

use the treats of my walks?

749

But the answer is also no.

750

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Mm.

751

Carrie: tests on this as

well on my, my own walks.

752

I did a walk once on purpose.

753

I didn't recall my dogs once

just to see what was happened.

754

They just followed me.

755

They were checking 'cause they

were already checking in with me.

756

We were checking

757

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

Checking in.

758

Carrie: I would change direction

and oh, she's gone that way.

759

And this

760

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Mm

761

Carrie: your relationship

and bond with your dog.

762

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

mm because there's so much you might

763

need those treat for, like, if, if

it's a high value treat, you might

764

need it for a distraction, might you?

765

Carrie: yeah,

766

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

And to reward them.

767

Carrie: my dogs when I've done a good

job and if I've not got anything on me

768

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

769

Carrie: how can I tell 'em they've done

a really good job That time my dogs

770

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Mm.

771

Carrie: in the dead rat.

772

How proud was I, my friend's dog

when a dog rolled in a dead rat and

773

I gave a quite a strong leave it.

774

they really called straight back

to me, 'cause in my head to my

775

dogs and leave it as a promise.

776

I'm going to give you some treats.

777

They came straight back to me

and I heavily rewarded them.

778

They didn't roll on Deborah.

779

I was

780

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah,

781

Carrie: that.

782

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

no, I bet.

783

And it's so important as well,

just to reinforce it, isn't it,

784

with that high value reward what,

what gets rewarded gets repeated.

785

Carrie: repeated, and would you

go to work and not get paid?

786

I'm just paying my dogs

for a job Well done.

787

I also like

788

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

789

Carrie: especially like the puppy

owners as well, straight away, to

790

getting rid of that treat word.

791

not treats, it is all just food.

792

This is also

793

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Mm

794

Carrie: human, in the human

world with dieting and stuff.

795

It's not, it's just food.

796

It has different calories.

797

It'll keep you full up for longer

and stuff, but it is all just food.

798

If I've been out for an

799

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: True.

800

Carrie: it's very unlikely I'm gonna

want a three course meal that night.

801

Yes, I'm gonna balance it.

802

If I've been out training my dogs

803

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

804

Carrie: really need a dinner, do they?

805

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: No.

806

Yeah.

807

What I was gonna say as well is

that basically it is about building

808

that value in you, making you

you more high value than the dead

809

rat or the deer in the distance.

810

'cause you need to, you need

to build up that you are worth

811

coming back for, don't you?

812

Carrie: that's against relationship and

813

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

814

Carrie: Your dog

815

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

816

Carrie: awesome to come back you.

817

like I, I remember doing a leave of envy.

818

I just a on the floor.

819

I didn't really want.

820

She's got, she's a working cocker,

she likes to pick stuff up.

821

I was like, oh, don't,

please don't pick it up.

822

I don't have to take off you.

823

So I just asked her to leave it.

824

Two seconds later,

825

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

826

Carrie: dogs came around the

corner straight away and I was

827

like, well, to be honest, they've

left whatever they were doing.

828

They do get a treat for that.

829

'cause

830

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Mm.

831

Carrie: instantly when they've heard a

leave, even though they were outside.

832

But again, that's relationship

833

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

834

Carrie: They've heard my voice and

they've gone, we need to go back to mum.

835

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah,

and obviously there's so much more you can

836

do with your dog, like beyond puppyhood,

like, like sports, like agility, hoopers.

837

There's scent work isn't there?

838

So

839

Carrie: loads.

840

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: you

might, yeah, you might want to continue

841

that journey and continue cementing

that bond, I used to say by doing

842

some sort of follow on class or sport.

843

Carrie: your dog's bread for

Envy's done some gun dog training.

844

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

845

Carrie: had a, Maisy was my first

dog when I became dog trainer,

846

so I also got her when I started

doing my dog training course.

847

So she's 10, roughly 10 and a half.

848

I wanted to learn from

firsthand experience.

849

My first dog wasn't a eight

week old puppy, he was four

850

months, I think roughly.

851

He was, I got from Dog Trust, so I

wanted to Snake World called Cookie

852

so I could go through the development

stages so I could really understand them.

853

so she has done, she

used to be a disc dog.

854

She has performed at the NEC.

855

She's performed at a couple

of places doing disc dog.

856

She has done a little bit of

agility since she's c Cross manual.

857

It

858

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah,

859

Carrie: wild.

860

I also slightly went to the wrong training

place for that, which she live and learn.

861

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Do?

862

Carrie: done, what else has she done?

863

A bit of dog dancing, who works music.

864

We've done

865

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

866

Carrie: bit of that.

867

She's tried a

868

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

869

Carrie: sports and it's

finding, just having

870

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: wow.

871

Carrie: together.

872

Trick training.

873

So we've done trick training

with, we have Lucy Heaths.

874

We did some trick training with her.

875

That was loads of fun.

876

De amazing's, got a ridiculous

877

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

878

Carrie: and we've

879

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Oh

880

Carrie: trick training with

other dog trainers as well.

881

finding what

882

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: yeah.

883

Carrie: dog enjoys doing.

884

And I push, I push this with

885

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Mm

886

Carrie: clients.

887

What do you enjoy doing?

888

What would you like to try?

889

And I go through the dog sports.

890

There's Rally.

891

Maisie does rally as well.

892

She's doing competitions in rally.

893

So that's more of like an

894

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: mm.

895

Carrie: style sport.

896

Or quite often see the agility

or the mask about the fly ball

897

that they've seen on Crufts.

898

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

899

Can you just tell us disc dog?

900

I've not heard of that.

901

And our view, our li, our li

our listeners might not know.

902

So what is Disc dog?

903

Carrie: some Frisbees and basically

getting your dog to jump off you and

904

rebound off you and catch the Frisbees.

905

is so much

906

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Oh,

907

Carrie: So unfortunately

she's retired from doing that.

908

Now she's got potential arthritis.

909

It one of one of her favorite things to

do if I get the Frisbees out so she can,

910

if I kneel on the floor, she will jump

off my thigh into the fly, into the air.

911

For me to catch a Frisbee.

912

I've chuck something.

913

That way jump off my back.

914

I've probably got photos of it.

915

I dunno if I've got any videos of it.

916

So we did it to music at the NCI

think it's a national pet show.

917

We did a demo at, the disc dog to

918

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Mm.

919

Carrie: Yeah, so she used to be able,

if I bent over, she'd jump off my back

920

into the air to catch the disc and stuff.

921

Should rebound off the front of me.

922

You don't see it as much, but

yeah, if you've not heard of

923

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: No.

924

Carrie: have a look into it.

925

It's such a good spot.

926

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Oh yeah.

927

No, there's, I just love it.

928

And there's just so much you can

do with your dog isn't there and

929

it doesn't, training doesn't stop

at the end of the six week class.

930

Carrie: about, wasn't it?

931

But yeah, it doesn't

932

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

933

Carrie: stop at end of the six weeks.

934

Training is

935

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

936

Carrie: are reinforcing

stuff through the life.

937

Look at what you said before.

938

What gets rewarded gets repeated.

939

Reinforcing through the re now

and again, the recall them getting

940

an horse every now and again.

941

Just give 'em a massive

piece of whole sausage.

942

They've done it.

943

They've done like a easy recall,

but they get a sausage for it.

944

They go, oh, that's worth doing.

945

Why get that again?

946

Reinforcing the little

things that you want.

947

You don't know the envy's in here.

948

Have you noticed she's in here?

949

She's fast asleep.

950

That's a working span.

951

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah,

952

Carrie: asleep.

953

She has not, she came on say hello

to you when we first popped on.

954

Then she's just slept, hasn't she?

955

But I spent

956

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

that's it.

957

Yeah.

958

Carrie: Reinforcing switch

off when I'm working.

959

If I'm sat at this

desk, she needs to rest.

960

It took me over a

961

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

That's good.

962

Carrie: get this with her,

963

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

Wow, that's so good.

964

Yeah.

965

Love that.

966

What do you want people to understand

about raising happy, fulfilled adult dogs?

967

Not just cute puppies carry,

968

Carrie: Fulfilling your dog's needs?

969

Are all your dog's needs being met?

970

Are they getting the

physical exercise they need?

971

if people always ask, how much exercise

should I be walking my dog for?

972

I'm like, well, how much exercise

do you do you also want to do?

973

So there's no point in me giving

a prescription of what I do.

974

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: I.

975

Carrie: needs, things like the breed.

976

You've got mental, mental stimulation.

977

This isn't just getting you

snuffle mats out and mental

978

stimulation is the environment.

979

Taking them somewhere new, not doing the

same walk every day the same way round.

980

Even mix it up the opposite way.

981

Fun thing to do is just like, go on

982

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

983

Carrie: ask the dog which way

to go and just follow them.

984

If it goes to a short walk,

goes to a short walk, it's

985

just mixing these things up.

986

Just yeah, giving them something to chew.

987

Oh, my dog's got loads of stuff to chew.

988

I've got loads of toys.

989

Give them something to

eat, physically eat.

990

They enjoy chewing, release

endorphins in the brain.

991

It makes 'em feel good.

992

Why give them

993

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

994

Helps.

995

Carrie: And yeah,

996

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah,

997

Carrie: helps.

998

Massive.

999

You watch that TV

00:33:16,188 --> 00:33:16,338

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: it.

00:33:16,403 --> 00:33:18,203

Carrie: on TV and your

dog's still little bit wild.

00:33:18,203 --> 00:33:19,433

I've got two working line dogs.

00:33:19,433 --> 00:33:21,593

Sometimes they just need to,

something to chill out with.

00:33:23,223 --> 00:33:23,733

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

00:33:23,733 --> 00:33:27,273

And well, I was gonna say like, obviously

the chewings really good for like the

00:33:27,273 --> 00:33:31,083

brain and mental stimulation, but I'm

really big advocate on letting the

00:33:31,083 --> 00:33:33,123

dog's nose lead the way on the walk.

00:33:33,573 --> 00:33:35,163

It's, it's their walk.

00:33:35,163 --> 00:33:37,593

So let them choose what way they're going.

00:33:37,793 --> 00:33:38,858

Carrie: 'em track some scents.

00:33:38,858 --> 00:33:39,758

Let 'em have some fun.

00:33:40,808 --> 00:33:41,318

And then like we were

00:33:41,368 --> 00:33:41,658

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

00:33:41,678 --> 00:33:42,848

Carrie: there's loads of different sports.

00:33:42,848 --> 00:33:44,798

You can do like man training

and stuff with that as well.

00:33:44,798 --> 00:33:46,868

Who wants to do man

train scent work courses?

00:33:46,868 --> 00:33:49,808

There's loads about these days

a lot more than they used to

00:33:49,983 --> 00:33:50,463

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

00:33:50,798 --> 00:33:50,888

Carrie: Yeah.

00:33:50,888 --> 00:33:51,788

They see so much of the

00:33:52,008 --> 00:33:52,518

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

Definitely,

00:33:52,598 --> 00:33:52,688

Carrie: Yeah.

00:33:52,688 --> 00:33:56,468

It's one of my pet hates people

dragging their puppy along, moving.

00:33:57,108 --> 00:33:57,763

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

I hate it.

00:33:57,788 --> 00:33:59,828

Carrie: world for their

noses that pee on the post.

00:33:59,828 --> 00:34:01,088

That isn't just one message.

00:34:01,088 --> 00:34:02,378

I think it's like text messages.

00:34:03,188 --> 00:34:04,688

I am, I'm a poodle.

00:34:05,408 --> 00:34:06,788

I'm brown in color.

00:34:06,938 --> 00:34:08,257

I am, I dunno if you're male or female.

00:34:08,257 --> 00:34:08,708

Sorry.

00:34:08,918 --> 00:34:09,277

I am.

00:34:10,848 --> 00:34:11,058

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: He's.

00:34:11,408 --> 00:34:12,728

Carrie: I am an adolescent.

00:34:12,878 --> 00:34:13,328

Oh yeah.

00:34:13,328 --> 00:34:14,588

I'm looking for the girls.

00:34:15,967 --> 00:34:18,217

He's leaving all these messages to

the other dog, but it's not that

00:34:18,217 --> 00:34:19,568

one last message on that page.

00:34:19,568 --> 00:34:20,467

It's probably about 50.

00:34:20,467 --> 00:34:22,928

Your dog is reading, so

layers of text messages.

00:34:22,928 --> 00:34:24,818

So let your dog sniff, let your.

00:34:25,458 --> 00:34:26,328

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

I love that.

00:34:27,527 --> 00:34:28,878

I love that analogy of text.

00:34:29,208 --> 00:34:33,737

I always used to refer it as like

DNA, like that's like a thumbprint

00:34:33,737 --> 00:34:36,737

because they're working out

whether that dog's been neutered.

00:34:36,828 --> 00:34:39,518

How old breed sex.

00:34:40,303 --> 00:34:41,293

Carrie: My name's envy.

00:34:41,293 --> 00:34:42,553

I'm looking for the boys yet.

00:34:42,553 --> 00:34:44,172

She was awful when she

used to come in to see.

00:34:44,322 --> 00:34:45,433

I'm very flirty.

00:34:46,213 --> 00:34:48,072

but yeah, they're leaving all

those messages to each other.

00:34:48,072 --> 00:34:49,453

It's like leaving text messages behind.

00:34:51,068 --> 00:34:51,878

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

I love that.

00:34:52,158 --> 00:34:52,578

Right.

00:34:52,578 --> 00:34:53,328

Let's move on.

00:34:53,328 --> 00:34:57,258

And God, we've sailed through this

episode, so we're gonna start wrapping

00:34:57,258 --> 00:35:01,768

it up with the last sort of five minutes

or so, some final questions and thoughts.

00:35:01,768 --> 00:35:05,458

So it's been jam packed full of lots of

useful information all about puppies.

00:35:05,848 --> 00:35:09,238

But Carrie, what's one myth

about raising puppies that you'd

00:35:09,238 --> 00:35:11,998

love to bust once and for all?

00:35:12,003 --> 00:35:13,623

Carrie: They're not a blank

slate when they come to you.

00:35:14,493 --> 00:35:15,363

Everyone thinks, see, I've got

00:35:15,448 --> 00:35:15,898

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Mm-hmm.

00:35:16,353 --> 00:35:17,793

Carrie: It's a brand new,

you know, blank slate.

00:35:17,793 --> 00:35:18,303

It isn't.

00:35:18,783 --> 00:35:23,163

You have got re traits, you've got

genetics, you've got mum's experience.

00:35:23,193 --> 00:35:24,423

You know, before she was even pregnant.

00:35:25,848 --> 00:35:26,748

experience.

00:35:26,748 --> 00:35:30,828

You've got health, nutrition, how the

mum was treated while she was pregnant.

00:35:31,008 --> 00:35:31,128

Yeah.

00:35:31,128 --> 00:35:34,248

Prenatal environment, early environment.

00:35:34,248 --> 00:35:37,248

So before the puppy came to you,

what, you know, that's a massive,

00:35:37,398 --> 00:35:40,488

you know, all these things, that's

not a clean slate you've got.

00:35:41,418 --> 00:35:41,748

So that's,

00:35:41,848 --> 00:35:42,058

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Mm.

00:35:42,078 --> 00:35:45,378

Carrie: you'll sometimes get some

puppies that come to you, crate trained.

00:35:46,128 --> 00:35:49,008

some puppies come into you that

are pretty much toilet trained.

00:35:49,473 --> 00:35:50,088

'cause, 'cause the

00:35:50,233 --> 00:35:50,893

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah,

00:35:50,988 --> 00:35:51,978

Carrie: of work into there.

00:35:53,923 --> 00:35:55,663

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

I mean there's some really good

00:35:55,663 --> 00:35:58,408

breeders, but obviously there's

some not so good, isn't there?

00:35:58,578 --> 00:36:02,088

Carrie: yeah, I've heard a lot of,

oh, it's gone off of my head now.

00:36:02,868 --> 00:36:03,228

Age.

00:36:04,848 --> 00:36:05,958

Yeah, that one's gone completely.

00:36:05,958 --> 00:36:06,738

But yeah, you get some

00:36:07,018 --> 00:36:07,598

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

That's alright.

00:36:07,878 --> 00:36:10,488

Carrie: coming through where,

yeah, you can tell I'm afraid.

00:36:10,848 --> 00:36:11,778

I, I can tell when I go

00:36:11,978 --> 00:36:12,268

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

00:36:12,738 --> 00:36:15,648

Carrie: it's one of the questions I

ask, where has this puppy come from?

00:36:15,648 --> 00:36:16,848

Is it from a breeder?

00:36:17,053 --> 00:36:17,593

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Mm

00:36:17,598 --> 00:36:18,318

Carrie: from a farm?

00:36:18,558 --> 00:36:19,458

Which I have had for

00:36:19,813 --> 00:36:20,383

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: mm

00:36:20,488 --> 00:36:22,798

Carrie: Envy's breeder, I can highly rate.

00:36:22,848 --> 00:36:25,218

She has just got the sweetest

temperament and stuff.

00:36:25,218 --> 00:36:25,818

You can tell.

00:36:25,998 --> 00:36:27,858

I can tell she was really well bred.

00:36:28,668 --> 00:36:29,028

Eric

00:36:29,323 --> 00:36:29,833

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

Oh, that's good.

00:36:29,898 --> 00:36:30,828

Carrie: a well bred dog.

00:36:31,048 --> 00:36:32,518

His was definitely genetics.

00:36:32,518 --> 00:36:35,248

He would never have been fixed with

all his issues that he did have.

00:36:35,248 --> 00:36:35,728

Bless him.

00:36:36,318 --> 00:36:40,518

But that's, that's the things, this is

why it is worth its weight goals, what

00:36:40,518 --> 00:36:42,198

it tells people getting a good breeder.

00:36:43,608 --> 00:36:44,208

So worth

00:36:44,668 --> 00:36:45,928

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

it's so important.

00:36:46,558 --> 00:36:50,998

And obviously they've got those

periods when they're with the

00:36:50,998 --> 00:36:54,838

breeder, but can we just quickly

touch on that window, like eight to

00:36:54,838 --> 00:36:57,718

12 weeks or, I've not really, yeah.

00:36:57,718 --> 00:37:00,508

I'm not really up on my knowledge

anymore, but it's, that's such

00:37:00,508 --> 00:37:01,863

a critical window, isn't it?

00:37:02,253 --> 00:37:02,523

Carrie: weeks

00:37:03,043 --> 00:37:03,778

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

That's it.

00:37:03,988 --> 00:37:04,558

Yeah.

00:37:04,953 --> 00:37:08,073

Carrie: period where dogs can,

puppies can take on the world

00:37:08,133 --> 00:37:09,813

much easier like a child.

00:37:10,113 --> 00:37:11,313

So they could take all the information on.

00:37:12,063 --> 00:37:15,813

What socialization isn't is meeting

lots of dogs and lots of people.

00:37:16,053 --> 00:37:17,253

So yes, they need to meet people

00:37:17,293 --> 00:37:17,863

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

00:37:18,273 --> 00:37:18,933

Carrie: but not everyone.

00:37:19,333 --> 00:37:19,843

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

00:37:19,953 --> 00:37:21,003

Carrie: this is what people think.

00:37:21,003 --> 00:37:21,363

Social.

00:37:21,363 --> 00:37:24,033

So, socialization, generalization

is how I look at it.

00:37:24,033 --> 00:37:28,143

You're taking, your dog into the world

and getting them used to the world.

00:37:28,203 --> 00:37:29,523

You want a puppy to go?

00:37:29,853 --> 00:37:31,653

Some we're in a new place, can't wait.

00:37:31,653 --> 00:37:32,218

I'm really excited.

00:37:32,463 --> 00:37:34,983

Not a puppy that gets somewhere

new goes, oh my God, where are we?

00:37:34,983 --> 00:37:35,618

What's gonna happen now?

00:37:36,418 --> 00:37:40,563

So you want lots of positive

experience, but very short bursts.

00:37:40,563 --> 00:37:42,663

15, 20 minutes at that time of age.

00:37:42,813 --> 00:37:44,373

'cause most of 'em, you can

be carrying your puppy anyway.

00:37:44,703 --> 00:37:46,473

Your Labrador, you're not

gonna be carrying for long.

00:37:48,063 --> 00:37:50,583

so you want to take them somewhere

for like 15, 20 minutes, see

00:37:50,583 --> 00:37:52,653

the world, take them home.

00:37:52,653 --> 00:37:54,123

And what they need to do is have a sleep.

00:37:54,123 --> 00:37:58,473

But we talked about earlier, your puppy

processes what they've seen during

00:37:58,473 --> 00:38:00,333

their sleep and they can wake up again.

00:38:00,513 --> 00:38:02,678

They've processed it, they're ready

to go again, so they can do so new.

00:38:03,708 --> 00:38:07,578

Yeah, so I always look at it as well

as what do you like doing with your

00:38:07,578 --> 00:38:11,488

life and where would you like to

take your dog for the next 10, 12,

00:38:11,488 --> 00:38:12,898

16 years that you've got your dog?

00:38:13,738 --> 00:38:17,458

So for me, I'm laughing because my

clients always laugh when I tell 'em.

00:38:17,458 --> 00:38:21,118

This one, I like going,

walking after my walk.

00:38:21,118 --> 00:38:22,198

I quite like to go to the pub.

00:38:23,458 --> 00:38:27,388

I, my dogs need to be pub trained,

or my dogs are pub trained, or my

00:38:27,388 --> 00:38:29,158

dogs are trained to travel well.

00:38:29,248 --> 00:38:30,868

'cause I like traveling

around the country.

00:38:31,723 --> 00:38:32,053

so yeah, I

00:38:32,218 --> 00:38:32,508

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

00:38:32,773 --> 00:38:34,543

Carrie: if you like going to the pub,

guess what I'm gonna tell you to do?

00:38:34,543 --> 00:38:37,273

If you're training tonight, you are

going to take your puppy to the pub.

00:38:37,483 --> 00:38:39,043

They're like, also, you

tell you to go to the pub.

00:38:39,043 --> 00:38:39,823

I'm like, yes.

00:38:40,093 --> 00:38:40,928

Because if this is what you

00:38:41,123 --> 00:38:41,693

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

I've never.

00:38:43,238 --> 00:38:47,288

I've never had a pub train before,

but I'm guessing like we wanna teach

00:38:47,288 --> 00:38:49,088

like a good settle or mat settle.

00:38:49,088 --> 00:38:49,358

So

00:38:49,573 --> 00:38:52,033

Carrie: into a busy environment

and teaching them to settle.

00:38:52,903 --> 00:38:54,013

If you enjoy going to

00:38:54,038 --> 00:38:54,638

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

pub train?

00:38:54,643 --> 00:38:55,483

Carrie: that's what you need to do.

00:38:56,218 --> 00:38:57,123

Like I said, I like, I like

00:38:57,128 --> 00:38:57,818

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

00:38:57,898 --> 00:38:59,278

Carrie: so my dogs go camping

00:38:59,353 --> 00:38:59,553

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: do?

00:38:59,668 --> 00:39:01,888

Carrie: as possible to get

them used to that environment

00:39:01,888 --> 00:39:02,608

because it's weird for them.

00:39:02,608 --> 00:39:04,498

Going camping is weird people.

00:39:04,498 --> 00:39:04,708

I was

00:39:04,983 --> 00:39:05,403

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Mm-hmm.

00:39:05,488 --> 00:39:08,518

Carrie: in the age district all of

a sudden there was people walking

00:39:08,518 --> 00:39:09,508

around with head torches on.

00:39:09,508 --> 00:39:10,108

It was pitch black.

00:39:10,108 --> 00:39:11,068

My dog went first night.

00:39:11,068 --> 00:39:12,418

They went, oh my God, what is going on?

00:39:12,868 --> 00:39:13,048

Yeah.

00:39:13,048 --> 00:39:16,258

It was settling them again into that

environment of dogs, walking past

00:39:16,258 --> 00:39:21,058

tents or don't people walking past

noises, sudden noises, dogs barking.

00:39:21,433 --> 00:39:22,338

They were super depress

00:39:22,553 --> 00:39:23,123

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Hmm.

00:39:23,383 --> 00:39:25,183

Carrie: when all the dogs were

parked barking on the camp site.

00:39:25,183 --> 00:39:26,623

They didn't react as much

as I thought they would.

00:39:27,253 --> 00:39:28,123

'cause it's a hard environment

00:39:28,193 --> 00:39:28,853

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

That's good.

00:39:29,323 --> 00:39:29,473

Carrie: Yeah.

00:39:29,473 --> 00:39:29,953

Getting your

00:39:30,113 --> 00:39:30,683

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

00:39:30,733 --> 00:39:33,343

Carrie: always get people to almost

make a list of the places they

00:39:33,343 --> 00:39:34,963

would like to go and take their dog.

00:39:34,993 --> 00:39:37,603

Like going ho holiday in

later street called cottages.

00:39:38,263 --> 00:39:41,053

need to get your dog used to that

and great time to do it as a puppy.

00:39:41,083 --> 00:39:42,763

'cause you can take

them with their crates.

00:39:43,153 --> 00:39:44,293

The crate is their homes.

00:39:44,293 --> 00:39:45,163

They get to the new place.

00:39:45,163 --> 00:39:46,363

They like, oh, this is

my, just my new home.

00:39:47,023 --> 00:39:47,953

My dogs travel.

00:39:47,953 --> 00:39:50,833

Well for that reason, they have traveled

to a lot of different friends' houses.

00:39:50,833 --> 00:39:54,523

They've been to a lot of cottages

over the time and be probably less.

00:39:55,333 --> 00:39:57,763

So it just means I just take crates

and stuff with me and they go, okay,

00:39:57,763 --> 00:39:58,663

this is where we're living now.

00:39:59,743 --> 00:40:00,133

They get to my

00:40:00,438 --> 00:40:00,558

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Hmm.

00:40:01,153 --> 00:40:03,583

Carrie: and they know how to act

at my friend's houses 'cause I've

00:40:03,583 --> 00:40:07,363

taught 'em, it's just another house

and you just act the same again.

00:40:07,363 --> 00:40:08,113

All these things in

00:40:08,258 --> 00:40:08,648

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

00:40:08,743 --> 00:40:09,493

Carrie: Yeah, you socialize.

00:40:09,583 --> 00:40:12,613

It's such an important age, but

I also say with socialization.

00:40:13,393 --> 00:40:14,893

It doesn't stop at that 16 weeks.

00:40:14,893 --> 00:40:16,843

It goes on for the first

two years of their life.

00:40:17,263 --> 00:40:18,013

Do you want to get your

00:40:18,193 --> 00:40:18,413

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Mm.

00:40:18,553 --> 00:40:20,773

Carrie: to as many things

that you want 'em to be used

00:40:20,773 --> 00:40:23,153

to in those first two years?

00:40:23,303 --> 00:40:26,603

So like the first 16 weeks are the most

important where they can take stuff.

00:40:26,603 --> 00:40:29,303

It un easier, but you're

still social socializing.

00:40:29,783 --> 00:40:30,608

You get your dog used to the.

00:40:32,643 --> 00:40:33,063

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Mm.

00:40:33,483 --> 00:40:33,873

Yeah.

00:40:34,173 --> 00:40:34,803

Love that.

00:40:34,803 --> 00:40:37,203

I just, I'm still

getting over pub trained.