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3: Quitting Corporate (Part 1): From a 9 to 5 to Three Businesses
Episode 317th October 2023 • Know Your Worth • Sydney Conway and Kristen Fedeli
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In this two-part episode, Sydney and Kristen share their journey to achieve one of the first Sexy Money Goals entrepreneurs have — quitting their 9-to-5 jobs. 

In this episode, Sydney details her journey from working in the financial industry with a secure job to starting her first three businesses and being able to quit and work for herself. 

They discuss how Sydney's upbringing made her confident to be able to lead a business, the mindset required to take the leap into entrepreneurship, and a few of the key numbers and financial considerations that went into the planning.


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I sent it over to him and I was out skiing with two of my friends and we

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were on the chairlift and I got the email that said, great, let's start Monday.

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Oh my gosh.

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Yeah, I can't.

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Yeah.

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So I was like, oh my gosh, I'm quitting my job on Friday.

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Like I'm going to quit my job on Friday.

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Welcome to the Know Your Worth Show, where we teach you how to think about

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your money differently so that you can achieve your sexy money goals.

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I'm Sydnee your money Maven and owner of Know Your Worth.

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And I'm Kristen Sid's Dimepiece bestie team member and busy mama

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twins here to make sure that those of us without a financial degree can

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still level up with each episode.

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Let's get started on reaching your next goal.

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welcome to the Know Your Worth Podcast.

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I am Sydnee Your Money Maven.

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I am kristen Sid's.

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Dimepiece Bestie.

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Whoop, whoop.

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So today is one of our early episodes.

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We are on episode three, and we are going to be talking a little

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bit more today about our sexy money goals, specifically us quitting our

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corporate jobs, us exiting corporate.

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I would define corporate as like you working a standard defined

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set of hours for someone else.

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For someone else.

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Yeah.

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That's a good definition.

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Because when I think of corporate too, and like even a corporate

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mentality now, whenever I think about that's what I think of.

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because even people that start off as entrepreneurs, eventually

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they could be back in corporate if their companies get big enough.

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So true.

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Working in corporate, working for someone else on their terms, not on your terms.

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Got it.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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That was always a big goal for me.

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Was to work for myself to leave corporate work for myself.

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I've kind of known, not my whole life, but pretty much my whole life,

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I wanted to have my own business.

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I always knew that.

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I always felt that way.

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How did you know that from such a young age?

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I had a lot of people in my family that did.

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And so my grandpa did my dad started his own business and He, I guess

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he started a little bit later from a growing up I knew that's what I

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wanted to do, but my dad started his business when I was in my senior year.

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I just had finished my senior year of high school.

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But my grandpa had always had his own business.

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I've watched a lot of my aunts and uncles have their own businesses and then I

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think just from seeing the flexibility and from kind of what my grandpa would

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say of you being your own boss and being able to dictate your own schedule.

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And I've always been money focused though, whether that's

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a good thing or a bad thing.

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Growing up I was very money focused.

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So if my parents, wanted me to stay on something, or if there was like

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a motivating factor, a lot of the times it would come from money.

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I got my first job when I was 14 or 15.

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And just couldn't wait to work and make money.

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That's always been a big goal of mine was to have money and to

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be able to provide for myself.

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So knowing I wanted to start my own business happened a while ago.

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How did that happen at such a young age as like a female?

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I'm only asking because I was brought up like, you don't talk about money.

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And Especially girls don't talk about money like it's unbecoming.

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Like I think that's badass.

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Yeah.

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Like how did you, oh, that's cool.

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I didn't mean to no.

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I love it.

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I love it, but it's just so different from like how I was raised.

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So I'm just, I want to know where that came from.

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My dad has never treated my sister and I, like we were.

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His daughters, you know his girl?

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Yeah.

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Like girls in the stereotypical way.

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Same with my mom.

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But when I look back at my family and how my dad grew up in a

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very, large Catholic family.

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He's one of 11 four girls and seven boys and what their

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mentality was, it's very different.

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So it is kind of funny that my dad's mentality towards my sister

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and I was like, Total opposite.

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We could do anything we wanted to.

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We were powerful enough to do anything we wanted to do.

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There was like absolutely nothing.

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The only thing I remember being told I wasn't allowed to do was mow the lawn

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like my, that was just afraid you're going to like chop your foot off because his

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neighbor, Was, she was mowing her lawn growing up and she chopped her toes off.

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Oh my God.

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I didn't mean to make, that's really what happened.

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And he was like, you need to be an athlete.

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You need your toes.

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Yep.

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You need to be an athlete and you need to have all of your toes in order to do that.

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That is yeah.

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Funny and what a gift from your dad.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Really.

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And my mom fully supported it too because my pap was very much, he didn't care

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if you were a woman or a man at all.

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There was nothing that he would say about, women are supposed to do this,

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or women are supposed to do that, ever.

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And it's kind of funny so I think I grew up with this mentality of not

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really understanding where people would come from when they said

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that, because that was so not how I.

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My whole family was the only person that was really like that in my life,

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was like my dad's dad, my, granddad.

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And we weren't around him all that often either.

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It was like, at a family party.

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But honestly, those were so overwhelming.

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I don't really think I'd ever, I ever absorbed it, yeah, no, that makes sense.

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I never had anybody else directly in my family that was like,

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women are supposed to do this, or women are supposed to do that.

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Looking back, I definitely have the.

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Feelings of guilt.

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A little bit of I should always have my house clean.

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I should always have, dinner made, but that's kind of my own thing.

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But my mom was very much like that.

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But because she loves it.

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Yeah.

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It wasn't because she felt that it was her role as a woman.

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Like she really loved being in that role.

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And her and my dad were very much a team in that with money, it

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was always an open conversation.

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There was never any negative conversations about money in my house growing up.

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It was always very planned and secure and safe, but open.

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Like it wasn't, like I didn't know about it, it would be like, oh, Hey,

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Michelle, I'm going to go buy this.

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Should I use checking one or checking two?

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She'd be like, oh, checking two.

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And so there was always like an open discussion on them, like where their

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money was flowing, where it needed to come from, and it was just like normal.

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Yeah.

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And it was all very calm.

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There was never anything negative around it.

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So I never grew up with a mentality that I couldn't.

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Be rich and I've been saying since I was little, I wanted to be a millionaire.

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That's, I love that.

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Yeah.

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I've always said that.

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Yeah.

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But I never knew it was, that was something that didn't happen.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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That's great.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Just from my perspective, and I'll share that later, but I love that.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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So pretty fun.

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You grew up wanting to be your own boss.

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Mm-hmm.

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What happened after college?

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I also think that I got a lot of wanting to be my own boss whenever I really

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got into leadership and self-help and development books, and business books,

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and I started doing that in college.

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So my freshman year of college, and I'm sure we'll get into this way deeper

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in another episode too down the road.

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But long story short, my freshman year, my coach, I played division

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one softball at Niagara University.

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My coach was put on investigation and fired after eight months

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for her treatment of the team.

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And she just had the worst leadership skills and it was really a difficult time.

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We can look back now and really learn from it and kind of laugh a

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little bit at just how ridiculous some of the things that she did were.

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But that really stuck with me of okay, if I'm ever a leader or if I'm ever in

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charge, this is not how I want to be.

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How could she have.

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Read that or said that or talked about that.

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So that kind of started my like leadership side of I want to be a good leader.

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If I can be, I can educate myself and teach myself to be a good leader

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because I want to one day own my company and I want to one day be

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somewhere that people want to work.

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So then from there I went into my first corporate job.

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I worked at a large regional Accounting firm, and I was an auditor, an

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external auditor for medium to large sized businesses in Pittsburgh.

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And, And then the surrounding areas, I did a lot of traveling actually

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to link West Virginia and Florida.

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But from there, I loved what I did.

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I loved where I worked, I loved the company, I loved my clients.

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But there was just, again, some of this leadership that was like,

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this is not how I would do this.

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And there were certain people that I really didn't like working with

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or working for, and I knew that.

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It just was going to be a difference of opinion forever.

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The goal was the same, but the method was so different and that really bothered me

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because if I had a different approach or an idea from certain people I worked with

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was never going to be the option ever.

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And I didn't like that.

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I know that never sat well with me.

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You know what my favorite part is about you being an auditor.

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When you said that you didn't realize that people didn't

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like auditors, I had no idea.

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It just, Fits your personality.

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I well, no idea.

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We just showed up hey here, audit.

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Hi, I'm ready.

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Yeah.

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And no.

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Yeah, it was like my second week of work, so I picked audit over tax

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because I didn't want to have a busy season, which is hilarious if there

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are any auditors out there because your whole year is a busy season.

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Not to, dis on any tax accountants out there.

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But the tax season had a very clearly defined.

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Beginning and end.

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Beginning and end.

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Yeah.

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It changed, if you were in nonprofit or higher education

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or, regular fiscal year ends.

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But.

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You had a little bit more of a push and then a deadline where

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audit just went on and on.

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And it was the same multiple busy seasons, just like tax.

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But it, I, it was funny.

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So that's why I went into audit.

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And I thought, people, you could talk more in audit.

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That's what I always heard, if you were a people person, you went into audit.

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Because tax accountants kind of just stay within their own circle.

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Yeah.

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They stay in their own cube.

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So I picked audit.

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And I got to work on like my second weekend.

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I had no idea that people didn't like auditors.

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And one of our clients told me that he'd rather go get a root canal than

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talk to me because he was literally on his way to go get a root canal.

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And he was serious.

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It was not a joke.

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He was not being funny.

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And he was like, oh, who are you?

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They sent another new person out to waste my time.

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Well, good thing I'm going to get a root canal because I'd

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rather do that than talk to you.

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Geez.

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And I was like, oh my gosh, I would've cried.

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Cried in the bathroom.

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But I'm so nice.

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I.

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Swear.

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So the next day I baked cupcakes and took them mother, me as, who

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doesn't want a cupcake after a root.

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Exactly.

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Exactly.

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So I, I started baking for all my clients because I just, I wanted them to like me.

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So I, I was truly known as Makes sense.

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Yeah.

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That would like bring in baked goods and then, when I moved near Oakmont

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Bakery, if anybody's from Pittsburgh and familiar, it's like one of

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the best bakeries in Pittsburgh.

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I, we live right by there.

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So then I made it a point that I would always bring Oakmont cookies

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and like really, sugar up all of our clients so that they would be

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excited for when I would show up.

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That's really cute.

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Try to soften the blow a little bit.

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Yeah.

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It looks suck, but have a cookie.

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Yeah.

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You are bankrupt.

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We have to issue this.

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Fine.

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Please don't be mad at me because it's not my fault.

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Right?

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Technically it's yours.

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I'm just kidding.

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But have 7,000 calories.

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But we found it.

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Here you go.

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Eat up.

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Yeah.

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That's truly what happened.

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That's exactly how it worked.

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Oh, I love it.

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Okay, so.

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you did that?

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Yeah.

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Yeah, I did that.

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That happened.

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And then from there, again, like I knew I was really starting to realize I wanted

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to have my own business at some point.

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I was really starting to not feel an end at the firm that I

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was at, but I was having a hard time seeing myself in the middle.

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Role, which some people might judge me for that, and that's fine.

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But I wanted to be the shareholder already, because I had a lot of the

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skills then for the shareholder of the communication side, not necessarily

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the foundation at that point for the, regulatory conversations and,

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all the big accounting adjustments.

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So I definitely had a lot more to learn, of course, until I

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even got close to that point.

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I didn't end up passing my C p a the first.

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Two times I took a test, and then after that I just decided

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it wasn't going to be for me.

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I wasn't going to sit and finish the c p A test because I knew I was

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going to leave public accounting and I wouldn't need it at that point.

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So I left public accounting and I went to go be a senior financial analyst at a.

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Robotics manufacturer.

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And the parent company was in France and we had subsidiaries

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in Canada, US and Mexico.

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And so I was in charge of the reporting for those companies back

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to our parent company in France.

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And again, I loved my job, I loved the people I worked with, but it was very

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different going from, I think, the hustle and bustle of public accounting

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to working at a firm or a private company where these people had been

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in the exact same role for 15 years.

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Yeah.

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And so that was just a very different mentality of I got there my first two

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weeks there, I had already booked a big training I was going to see a speaker in

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Toronto, I was going to see Tony Robbins.

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And I had never gone to an event that big before.

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And I remember telling the people I worked with, and they were

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like, Why are you doing that?

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And I was like, oh, I'm really passionate about self-development

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and like moving forward and I just, I want to go and see him.

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We're going with a couple friends.

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It's going to be a fun trip too.

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It's not just I'm going to go and listen to this guru.

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Yeah.

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Talk about all this.

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And so that was also shocking to hear that those people weren't ready to.

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Improve, yeah.

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So it didn't feel so, they were not like-minded and they were just like

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settled into that corporate very vibe.

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Yes.

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Very.

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And a lot of them had a hard time thinking outside the box or just like

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accepting different ways of doing things.

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And it just felt very old school.

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And, then I was there through the beginning of COVID and there was

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leadership there that was saying, you're more likely to get struck

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by lightning than get covid.

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And no matter what your opinions are on the topic, it was just a very

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like black and white way of thinking.

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And to have that like public opinion there and just be like kind of

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shutting people down sometimes.

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Overall, it was a great company.

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I really loved my boss there.

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She was amazing.

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I still keep in touch with her.

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And the coworkers that had were awesome.

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But it was just the mindset of the whole company, just wasn't somewhere

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I wanted to be at long term.

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Yeah.

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Didn't feel like him.

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Yep.

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So we were presented the option to buy the golf academy.

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And so my sister and I and my husband Alex and her husband Keith kind of

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all got together and said we want to do this, but Let's do it together.

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We want this to grow and we can take this over and make it really successful.

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So we bought that business and grew it.

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When we bought it, it was only generating maybe, $20,000 a year.

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It was a very like hobbyist business at the time.

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And within the first year we had it, it was six figure business.

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Wow.

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That's amazing.

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So that was really fun and that was really cool to see.

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And I was still working full-time at the private company that I was

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at, and I was still also doing a little bit of bookkeeping on the

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side for my friends' businesses.

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And I didn't have any concept of having the bookkeeping business yet, but that

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was kind of my first taste of wow, what I put into this is what I get out.

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Yeah.

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What we put into, this is what we get out.

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We could grow this as big as we wanted to.

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Mm-hmm.

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And then I was kind of hooked on when am I going to quit my job?

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Yeah.

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And either take this full-time or take something else full-time.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So that was kind of how I got to that point.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So when you told like the most important people in your life, Hey, I'm

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going to leave this private company.

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I want to be my own boss.

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I'm going to do this.

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What was your feedback from people?

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Yeah.

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So we got the golf academy and that was all extremely positive.

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Everybody was so pumped about us buying the golf academy and

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growing that and expanding it and just how big that could be.

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It was really exciting.

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My parents were fully supportive, aunts and uncles.

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Everybody was really great.

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And so then after that, it was about a year later.

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I decided that I wanted to either grow the golf academy

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or find something that I could.

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Quit eventually.

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Yeah.

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Quit my full-time job.

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So I joined a networking and a mentorship group and in that group

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they were like, what are the least favorite parts of your business?

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And at the time I was talking about starting a golf, like

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blog vlog of like teaching.

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Yeah.

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That was why I joined.

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And they were like, oh, finances, bookkeeping, finances,

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bookkeeping, finances, bookkeeping.

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Yeah.

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And I was like, Hey guys, I could help you with all this.

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And it was within two weeks is whenever I really.

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Laid the groundwork for doing it.

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And so I told my parents I was starting it and they were supportive.

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They thought it was a great idea but it was also.

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One of the things that, not as hard in their business, because my mom

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handles a lot of the bookkeeping stuff for my dad's business, but she

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knew the magnitude of the work and my dad's business it does very well.

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So they have a lot to work with and a lot to go through and their process is

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very in depth for their bookkeeping.

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So I think she was a little bit weary of what my process was going to be.

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And also I'm absolutely a A D H D hobbyist.

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So I think there's always a little bit of concern from my parents is

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this something that's going to stick?

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Right.

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And they never really expressed that to me growing up.

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Is this going to stick?

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But my husband has expressed this to me now, sure.

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Hey, you want to start this hobby?

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Are we going to commit to this?

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Or is this going to be like a week thing where you're like, you buy

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everything and then you give up on it?

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And so there was definitely I got that feedback from Alex, and I think

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my parents were very wary of that.

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So they were hesitant to be like, All in right away.

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Yeah.

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because they wanted me to be safe.

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Yeah.

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And not to do anything rash.

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So I made a plan and I told my husband I wasn't going to tell my parents

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that I was planning on quitting until I was literally going to quit.

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Yeah.

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Like the decision had already been made for you.

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Yes.

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Nobody talked about it and nobody could talk me out of it.

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Exactly.

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Yeah.

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So I.

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Made a budget.

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We've always had a budget for our household income of what

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we needed to make month to month to cover all of our bills.

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We didn't have joint bank accounts at this time, but we were

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really shared in our finances.

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We'd been married for two years at this point.

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But we'd been living together for three years and we'd be

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get together for much longer.

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So it was definitely, we were having.

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All the conversations about where our money stood, but we didn't yet have the

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joint bank account where both of our Sure.

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Incomes were being deposited into the same and all the bills coming out.

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So we made a budget altogether of all of our bills.

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We went through every one of our bank accounts to really fine tune how much

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money we needed on a month to month, how much money I was bringing in from my

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paycheck, and what the minimum I needed to make in order to quit my job was.

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Yeah.

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So I made a goal that it was going to be six months from starting the

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business, so I started it in February.

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I really wanted to quit by June, like six 30.

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Yeah.

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But I told myself if I could quit in July or August, it would be a huge win too.

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Yeah.

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But that I didn't want to go through another budget season at the company they

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worked with and another like year end.

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We made a plan and I just decided one morning that I

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needed to start talking about it.

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I had the business for three weeks at this point and was still had that

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discomfort of telling people that I was starting a bookkeeping business

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and like an imposter sense kind of.

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Yeah, definitely.

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Yeah, definitely.

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And it it had only been three weeks, so like I could give myself a little

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bit of benefit from that like it.

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It didn't take me a year or anything, but it took me three weeks

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and I was really keeping quiet.

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I didn't tell my parents, I didn't tell my sister.

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I didn't tell really anybody yet at this point, three weeks is long in Sid time.

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Yeah.

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Three weeks is long in Sid time.

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Oh my gosh.

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For my own secrets oh, I text everybody that day.

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But also when you decide to do something, like you do it.

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Yeah.

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Like one time we were going to take a boxing class and we went to a trial

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class and by the next day she had like boxing gloves and wraps for me.

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I did.

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Yeah.

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Everything is very like, oh, this is what we're doing.

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So for you to take three weeks to commit and tell people, I think that shows that's

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six months in another person's life.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It was a long time.

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It felt like a really long time.

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Yes.

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So I finally decided I was going to really tell people about it

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and promote it in a good way.

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I had the Instagram page for it, but I hadn't put it on my own bio yet.

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Yeah.

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And I was making the graphics for it, but I hadn't shared them

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or put them on my story yet.

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So that morning was the first day that I posted on my Instagram and I had brand

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photos taken because the mentorship group that I was in part of the group

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was that you got branded photos.

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So I had already had the branded photos.

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Oh.

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I had them like, ready to go on the page, but I hadn't shared them yet.

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So that morning I wrote the whole caption like I'm starting this business.

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I'm really excited about it.

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I shared it to my personal page for, you know, my, thousand

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followers to see or something.

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Yeah.

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900 followers to see it was a really big deal at the time too.

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And it is a really big deal when you first take that plunge to do it.

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It's very scary because you think everybody's going to judge you.

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And all I got was just absolute positivity from all my.

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Friends on social media, there was not one negative comment,

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not one negative feedback.

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Everybody went to go follow my business page.

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And then that day I was giving a private golf lesson and one of the guys that

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was in there, I'd been working with him for probably two months at this point.

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And he just kind of randomly was like, so what do you guys all do

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you know for work outside of this?

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And so I said, oh, I just started a bookkeeping business.

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I'm a bookkeeper, I'm an accountant.

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And he was like, are you kidding?

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I'm like, no, what do you mean?

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And he was like, I've just been complaining to my friend right here.

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For the past hour that I need a new bookkeeper.

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Oh, wow.

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And I was like, seriously?

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And he's yeah.

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Yeah.

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And he had seven franchise restaurant locations.

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Yeah.

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And he asked me to put in a proposal on the bookkeeping for all seven stores.

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And when I put it together, it was my salary at my job.

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That's amazing.

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Yeah.

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So I sent the proposal over, I was skiing with my friends.

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This was a week later.

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I took the whole week to really think about it, really feel good about it.

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Validated, did all the language and the contracts and the proposals, and

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I was using just like the free Canva and like putting all that together.

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I sent it over to him and I was out skiing with two of my friends and we

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were on the chairlift and I got the email that said, great, let's start Monday.

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Oh my gosh.

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Yeah, I can't.

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Yeah.

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So I was like, oh my gosh, I'm quitting my job on Friday.

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Like I'm going to quit my job on Friday.

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So that next day I went over to my parents' house.

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And I said, hey I may have mentioned a few weeks ago that I was, starting

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this business and I, it's really gone well and I have these couple clients

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already, but I just got this one.

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And.

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This is my salary.

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I'm quitting my job, and my parents were like, oh, wow.

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Okay.

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I commend them for staying level, like they stayed very neutral

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okay, Sydney tell us more.

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Yeah.

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You know, What's the plan?

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What's the backup?

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Do you have your emergency fund?

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Do you know?

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They really went through, okay, so what's this and what's this and this, I

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was like, well, I set a goal that if I could get to this level, this number, I

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would quit, because I know if I'm doing this full-time, I can grow it even more,

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but there's no way with this client that I just got, there's no way I can

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work my full-time job and do this well.

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Yeah.

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And they were like, well, what's your contract?

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I'm like, we're setting, a three month commitment.

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And then after that it's month to month, so I'll at least have a three month

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buffer to really give it this full effort.

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and I also said to my parents from day one, minute one, and anybody else

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that I talked to, I was not afraid.

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Of it not working or not getting enough clients, or if he would

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not be my client anymore.

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I had no issue going right down to McDonald's or going right down to the bar

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at the bottom of the hill and working.

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Supplementing, yeah.

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Yeah.

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There was no shame in that because if that's what it was going to

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take to get the goal, and those are great jobs, they pay really well.

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This was like 20, 21.

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So even, all the fast food restaurants near me were giving

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like, $2,000 bonuses for signing on.

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So it was like, great, we'll be totally fine.

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This'll be golden.

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I have no shame.

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I'm a hard worker.

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It's not a lack of work ethic.

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Yeah.

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So I will not be, we won't go broke.

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Yeah.

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It just won't happen.

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Yeah.

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There's no way that this will happen.

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Yeah.

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I'm going to do things by the book in the right way.

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I'm going to have insurance.

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So I'm covered from a business perspective here to start, there was little

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upfront cost of starting the business.

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I already had all the tools I needed.

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So then after that I kind of just went through that whole checklist with my

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parents and they were like, alright, yeah.

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I mean, What are they going to say?

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Yeah, you're a grown ass adult woman who is married and has thought it out

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and has scored a client bigger than probably you could have expected.

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Yeah.

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And the fact that I went into it with all of that prepared kind of nipped

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all of their arguments in the butt.

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You know what, if it doesn't work great, I'll go work down the street.

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Yeah.

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I have no problem.

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Walking to the bottom of my hill.

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I'm working at this bar restaurant that's right there.

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Yeah.

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I eat there all the time anyway, so I'll just go work it.

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I already know the menu, like I'll be golden.

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Yeah, I love that.

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So I think because I was so prepared with what the backup was and then

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what the backup to the backup was, and that, they knew Alex was on

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board and I had the support there.

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It wasn't going to be an argument between the two of us.

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Yeah.

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He had my back for that phase, that onboarding phase and that, maybe for

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the first couple months it was going to be tight, but then we were going to

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do what we need to do to make it work.

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They were supportive possibly.

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You had so much belief in yourself.

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What were they going to say?

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You don't think you can do it.

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Yeah.

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Because then they're going to be shitting on your dreams.

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Yeah.

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And on you.

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Exactly.

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Exactly.

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Like it just isn't in there.

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That's not even in the scope of their personalities.

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Exactly.

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Was there anyone who.

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Who said and you don't have to name the person.

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Mm-hmm.

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But how did that go?

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I don't think I had anybody that was like the most I got from people right

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away was, don't hire any employees.

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Do it yourself Only work to what your capacity is.

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Don't hire employees.

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Employees are the worst.

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You don't want to deal with other people.

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They'll call off, they're unreliable.

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So that made me nervous because I felt like I was already getting to a

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point where I like needed more help.

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So I think that was one of the things I could have done better in my first

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year was to get a little bit more help so that I wasn't so overwhelmed.

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Because it grew very fast, which I was very blessed with, but that

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initial feedback kind of scared me.

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Yeah.

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And don't get in over your head and, don't do anything more than what you can handle.

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Yeah.

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And in my head I was like, I can handle all of this.

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Yeah.

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And I really was about to not be able to handle Right.

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Any of that.

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I was about to have a heart attack I think at one point.

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You never show your cards, but Yeah.

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So is that when I met you?

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Yeah, that was when I was like crying in the kitchen because I was here every

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day till two o'clock in the morning.

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We're like, I'll get it done, it'll be fine.

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Okay.

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But I don't think I realized how.

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How soon into your journey of this business that I met you?

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Yeah.

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I feel like I thought you had this business for a lot longer.

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No.

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So I'm just having that realization right now.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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2021 is when the bookkeeping business fully started, and I'd been doing

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bookkeeping for five years before then, so I knew the business, but having

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the business by myself was like 2021.

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I quit my job March, 2021 and it was the first year of operation.

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It was a six figure business.

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Sid.

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Yeah.

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That's unbelievable.

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It was really cool.

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It was, it's awesome.

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I'm really proud of us and now we have a really good team.

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We've doubled that since then.

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And so it's just really, it's really fun.

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And it's going really well.

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And so now I feel like I have really high level conversations

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with my parents about it too.

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With how they operate their business, how we can all save for taxes.

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They ask for my feedback.

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You now.

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So now it's really fun.

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It's a really.

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Fun, relationship with them.

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And with my aunts and uncles that have their own businesses.

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And with my pap right before he passed away, it was like, really the

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conversations I always wanted to have.

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So it, it was really like immediately rewarding.

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You're like at that family table Yes.

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Of entrepreneurs.

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Yeah.

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And were considered as such by them.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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And that was really awesome.

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Really awesome.

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Yeah, it was really cool.

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It was really cool.

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It's a lot of fun.

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I've definitely had a couple people give me some weird feedback since of maybe

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they doubted it and they didn't tell me they were going to, they were doubting it.

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I have had, a couple people say, oh, so it's a real business now, after I,

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I had my first employee and they're like, oh, so it's a real business.

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Or I was like, oh, well it's been a real business this whole time.

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Thank you.

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I'm sure.

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But thanks for recognizing research.

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Yeah.

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They're like, oh wow, so you do know what you're doing.

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Because I answered like the one tax question they had, and I was like, you

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were the person to decide this, yeah.

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Really.

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Okay.

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Those are the ones you just have to laugh off a little bit, but so

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I've had some comments like that, but yeah, it's, that always says

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more about the other person's right?

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Exactly.

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Insecurities and fears about themselves than it does about Exactly.

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But still so interesting when they reveal themselves.

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Yes.

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And you're like, oh, okay.

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Oh, got it.

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So That's what you were thinking.

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I know what box to put you in.

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Yep.

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Yep.

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For my next big decision.

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Exactly.

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No, exactly.

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Yeah.

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So when you left corporate, it was very calculated and thought

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out from a money perspective.

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Yes.

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And you did it like a grownup.

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I yes.

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But also I had the benefit of not having a lot.

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Of other things to think about.

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Mm-hmm.

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And know I didn't have kids at the time.

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I don't have kids now.

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Alex and I had moved into our house like three years ago, so we were really leveled

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and settled in where we were at too.

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I was very blessed to have a manageable, the opportunity came at the right time.

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Yes, exactly.

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Exactly.

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But I don't think we're open to opportunities unless, as.

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If it has to feel like the right time, it has to feel like that time.

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It can feel a lot more like the right time when you're, make the

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budget and you're prepared and you know what the dollar amounts are.

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And I agree with that.

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So yeah, that was a lot of like my background there.

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It definitely worked out.

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Really well, and I'm really blessed for how it worked out.

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I definitely had the plan and I worked really hard for that too.

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I put in the hours when the business started, and I think that's what's

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really important when you're going to quick corporate, when you're going to

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take your business full time, you can't kid yourself and thinking, If you're

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going to do it or not, if you're going to to it, you have to commit to it.

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Yeah.

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And it was a scary decision when I went to go in to quit my

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job when I quit my first job.

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That was really scary.

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And I think that my parents were a little bit more upset about me quitting that job

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than they were me quitting my second job.

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My mom used to work at the firm that I worked at.

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So she felt like that was kind of like a home place for her personal reflect too.

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Ion maybe.

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But the company had changed so much since she had been there.

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So it just wasn't the same anymore.

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Yeah.

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So whenever she would give me feedback, I'd be like, yeah, it is.

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But it's not like that, it is that it's not, there are people like that, but the

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firm as a whole wasn't like that anymore.

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So it was hard to go through that.

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And I think that, accounting it's like the safest job of all time.

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And accountants are always in demand and the company that I worked at had

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a lot of really like great recognition in the city and they still do.

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Like I said, it's a wonderful firm and I loved it.

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So I think my parents really saw me climbing that corporate ladder and

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having this really like lovely safe life and career, but also that I

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could be really wealthy from that too.

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So I think that they didn't understand where I was coming from and Alex

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and I go back to this all the time, that we just want it to be that what

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we put into it, we get out of it.

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Yeah.

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What, but without having the, the commission only jobs or the total

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sales jobs from the beginning, we wanted that safety and security

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of having a salary to start.

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But then when you're ready to take that leap to corporate, I think you just really

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need to know that you need to be prepared.

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To not sleep.

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If you have to, if you build systems out and you have good people around you and

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you have some funding or you have systems that you in place, then you're good.

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You might not need to do that so much, but in your head, you need to be

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prepared to, if that's what it came to.

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And you need to just be willing to go and supplement.

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Yeah.

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And not feel any shame surrounding that either.

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I love that.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So that was that was my sexy money goal, quitting my corporate, starting

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my own business, and being the leader and the boss eventually,

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that I always wanted to have.

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And now with our team, she's a great leader.

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I try to be, but I also I want to recognize I don't

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know what I don't know either.

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Yeah, some of us too.

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So I'm always trying to learn and grow and that's what I want our firm to always be.

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So I appreciate you saying that.

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I love you.

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Yeah, I love you.

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This is so fun.

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It's great to be here now, and now we have a podcast.

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No.

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Hopefully we have listeners.

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If not, we're having fun.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Exactly.

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But yeah, so that was my goal.

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Quitting corporate, starting my own business, and now we've, now I have

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three businesses, it's been great.

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It's been a great ride.

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And because we went a little bit more in depth on mine I think we're going to spend

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a whole episode on Kristen now and the next episode, and I was less prepared.

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So if you are somebody who just.

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Flies by the seat of your pants.

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Here we go.

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And how it still works out.

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It still works out.

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Yeah.

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And it still is a the best move for you.

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Yeah.

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And it was.

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We're going to hit it hard.

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Yeah, it was great.

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It is great.

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So we're going to talk about that in the next episode.

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So every time you say next episode, I think of Dr.

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Dre 42.

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Alright, love you guys bye bye-bye.

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