RE-VIEW ALERT: Revisiting Episode 26 of Review That Review – Hanukkah Special! 🕎

Join us as we RE-VIEW the fan-favorite Episode 26, originally aired on December 1, 2021! This episode is packed with holiday cheer, including two hilarious reviews, two spot-on complaints, and two Royal Highness inductions. Today's RE-VIEW is a bite-sized version, but we highly recommend checking out the full episode for all the fun! 🎧

Episode 26 Highlights:

• Hanukkah Reviews: Chelsey brings in a laugh-out-loud 2-Star Review from GoodReads for the book "Daddy Christmas and Hanukkah Mama!" 📚
• Trey shares a scathing 1-Star Amazon Review for Oil Cup Menorah Candles 🕯️ (spoiler: it’s not pretty).
• Expect emergency landings, fashion fails, and a complete mystery around the King and Queen. Plus, what’s the deal with Shoshana Bean and BKLYN the musical? 🎭

Timestamps:

• (02:43) Lodge a Complaint!
• (10:45) Daddy Christmas and Hanukkah Mama Review
• (53:20) My Royal Highness

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You guys, I cannot believe how special today is.

It's both the first day of Hanukkah and Christmas Day.

Wow.

Babies, it's time to Review, Review That Review, episode 26, which aired on December 1st, 2021.

This episode originally contained two reviews, two complaints, and two Royal Highness inductions, but today's review is a bite sized version of that original airing, so be sure to pop back and listen to episode 26 in full.

Daddy Christmas and Hanukkah Mama, we, well, I don't want to give away, you're about to listen, but, I did, all thanks to Chelsey, purchase this for my nephews, who do celebrate both, Daddy Christmas and Hanukkah Mama, so enjoy, also don't forget to rate and review us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen, it really does help, and just think of it as like, you know, some Hanukkah gelt, or a nice little Christmas gift, tucked under our Review Queen tree.

Everybody's got an opinion, Every Californian and Virginian,

It's so hard to tell who to trust and who to ignore, Someone's gotta settle the score., Trey and Chelsey will help you choose, Whose views win which ones

lose, Online haters are coming for you, Coming for you, Baby, it's time to Review That Review!

Hi,

hi,

hello, everyone.

Welcome to Review That Review, the podcast dedicated to reviewing

reviews.

That's right.

We're just like Siskel and Ever, only instead of reviewing cinematic masterpieces, we rate and review those hilarious, scathing, and sometimes suspicious online reviews.

That's Chelsey Donn.

And that's Trey Gerrald.

And together, we are

The Review Queens.

But today is not just any ordinary day.

And today, we are not just The Review Queens.

Today, we are also Dreadle Queens, because it is Hanukkah!

I have a little dreidel, I made it out of clay, And when it's dry and ready, With dreidel

I shall play!

Yay!

Gimmel, Gimmel, Gimmel!

Hi, hi,

hi, no, hey,

hey, hey!

How was your week?

Did you have a good week?

I hope I missed you a lot.

And have you been like percolating about something you wanted to complain about?

What's going on?

Ledge a complaint.

I've had a good week, you know, because I was raised Christian, but I married a Jewish person.

I do celebrate both holidays.

And so, you know, traditionally, we will see David's family, his parents for the first few nights of Hanukkah.

So it's just a joyous season of gifts.

But I do have something I need to complain about.

Okay, let's hear it.

Ledge a complaint.

Okay, so, you know, I was born in the mid 80s.

And

there was a very specific fashion to the mid 80s.

And I grew up in the

90s

and the early 2000s, both of which have very distinctive styles.

Yes.

So, you know, I was in my 20s in the 2010s.

Now that we're in the 2020s, I'm in my 30s.

And I am now of that age where I don't understand TikTok.

I have no interest and it has come to my attention that me wearing skinny ish type jeans Makes me an old person.

Yeah.

So I'm suddenly in this experience of, Oh my God.

This is the new version of mom jeans.

The

fact like young people look at me in my, and I can't even wear skinny jeans because just because my, um, I have really ginormous calves, not because of anything I've done just genetically.

Sure.

But I do wear slim jeans.

Sure.

And I, I have to like now wear baggy jeans like we wore in the 80s or 90s.

Like I'm just lodging a complaint against fashion trends that are connected to ageism because I feel like I'm an old person because I don't want to change my jeans.

And I guess that is part of the whole cyclical circle of life where you just stop caring what little you care about.

Teenagers think of you.

Um, and you just are an old person with white tennis shoes from like shoe carnival.

And, uh, you just wear skinny jeans.

So I'm not going to complain against fashion trends.

Why did, why did we have to change so much?

And why are things from the eighties cool now?

Like, why are teenagers wearing acid wash jeans?

Like, it's so weird.

First of all, first of all, Trey, I feel this on such a personal level.

Okay.

I refuse.

To wear anything but a skinny jean.

I feel you.

I agree.

I was told that we're not allowed to do the like hair swoopy thing over.

Like if you have like more of a side part and you're wearing skinny jeans, that that is like a surefire sign of you're old or something.

And you're right.

Because at the end of the day, I don't care.

I don't care.

I'm always going to swoop my hair, like pull my hair back.

I don't like a center part.

I'm just, you know, that's who I am and I'm okay with it.

And if that makes me old.

And we can be old together.

At least we're old together, you know?

I give out.

It's just like, get out of here with that.

Anyway.

That's true.

That is something that's come up quite a bit.

I want to take these travel and age issues and I want to put them in maybe an oil burner and fry them into a light, a golden light, so that you and I can jump into some online reviews that are in the theme of Hanukkah.

I'm very about it.

As you know, we are your trusty review queens.

We each bring in a review from the internet that we feel needs to be inspected.

We read you the review.

We break it down and rate the impact of the review on a scale from one to five crowns.

It's a very regal process that we have coined called

Assess That Kivitch.

And in honor of Hanukkah today, Trey and I are centering our views around this very holiday.

And Chelsey, my girl, you're first today,

I am, yeah,

Take it away, RQ, Hanukkah you,

Aw, Hanukkah you, RQ,

Review That Review,

First of all, before I even start, if you're watching this on Patreon right now, you get to see how gorgeous and blue we both look, Look, the light behind Trey is stunning.

I wanted to talk about it before, but Trey wouldn't let me.

And I was like, I was

just trying to record

it.

Cause like, well, guys, how gorgeous is this blue light happening behind Trey?

And I mean, I think for the first time in the past three recordings, I've got it right.

I got extra lights and I, I'm actually.

You can see me.

It's a very exciting day here at Review That Review.

I like that it's dreidels and gelt and stars of David and Menorah.

So you got it all covered.

I really,

thank you.

I was eager to get it all in there.

All right.

I have a review.

Now you guys know I love to give myself a challenge and I always pick a name that I can't pronounce.

So here we go.

This review is written by La Cochinelle.

I'm going to have to spell it.

L A space C O C C I N E L L E.

What do you think that is, Trey?

Oh, that's an, I instantly get lost if there's Two consonants next to each other.

So

I know with the CC, I'm like, it's a lot cochineal, a lot coaching.

I don't know,

but there's no accent marks.

So this review is from Goodreads.

I should say, I don't know if Goodreads allows for an accent or not, but there is no accent.

What are we, we got to agree on something because we're going to be talking about them a lot.

La Cochinella.

All right, so we'll call them La Cochinella.

La Cochinella has written a two star review on Goodreads for the book, Daddy Christmas, and Hanukkah Mama.

Now, I feel like our audience has a totally different relationship with the title of this book, and I'll be honest, when I first read it, I was like, Daddy Christmas and Hanukkah Mama?

Like, is this, what is this, a porno?

Like, I don't know.

Oh wait, I

think now I'm gonna like where this is going, now that I think about it.

Why?

Well, at first she said, Daddy Christmas, and I thought it would be Hanukkah Harry.

Yeah.

But now is this for children that have two separate religious parents?

Oh, very nice.

That is

what it is.

That exact.

But like, am I weird that when I first read that, I was like, Hannah, good daddy.

I mean, I don't know,

it occurred to me too, obviously, for some reason, you can't say daddy without it being like, yeah, I mean, head tilt.

Oh, yeah, exactly.

So, all right.

Let's hear La Cochonela's opinion.

This book makes one huge assumption, that children will be familiar with both Christmas and Hanukkah celebrations.

Oh no.

There's little explanation for why people do the things they do to celebrate these holidays.

Mentions are made of leaving latkes out for Santa.

And putting gelt under the Christmas tree, but the significance of these things isn't explained, Children who might not be familiar with Christmas will be doubly confused, As the book makes mention of both the religious story, Jesus's birth, and the more secular one, Santa Claus.

Having read a couple of other picture books about Hanukkah now, I feel like I have a basic grasp of what's going on.

And this book doesn't really even cover the basics.

I'm Also still confused about the King and Queen.

Who are the King and Queen?

Is that a Jewish thing or a Christian one?

I've never heard of it.

The book may be short, but there are places that more explanation could have been added.

Instead, we get four pages about holiday cleanup.

I'm not exaggerating, unfortunately.

I didn't really like the pictures here.

Some of them are OK.

And I like the use of what looks like collage, in addition to the drawings, however, the characters in profile are creepy, something about the eyes, I've been waiting for this book from the library for so long that Hanukkah is over, and that leads me to yet another problem with this book, the story, As it's written, it's only gonna make sense in years where Hanukkah and Christmas overlap.

The differing dates could cause confusion for kids, and I'd like to know how a family like this would celebrate their holidays in a year like 2018.

Would Hanukkah and Christmas be more self contained?

Would they bother stuffing the turkey with kugel and leaving latkes out for Santa or just keep the traditions separate?

Overall, I was disappointed.

This book is going to have very limited appeal and may only work for children who find themselves in the same situation as Sadie.

Otherwise, it doesn't really add anything to the discussion.

You could achieve the same thing by explaining with one simple sentence.

Some people combine Hanukkah and Christmas traditions.

If you're going to expand on that sentence in a book, the story needs to do more than just find different ways of repeating that sentence without offering any more information about the traditions themselves.

Oh, my God.

Okay, wait, I am very confused.

Yeah,

because I assumed from the top the attack about what are the reasons?

What is the significance?

Why is this tradition, which is very, very culturally Jewish.

Right.

So understand traditional lineage.

But then later in the review, La Cochonela says they've read a couple of picture books.

So now they're an expert on Judaism.

Yes.

So,

is

La Cochinella in this situation themselves?

Like, are they in a mixed religious home, or not?

Like, I'm very confused.

Right.

I think that La Cochinella is not, which is my impression, because they're like, this book only makes sense if you're in this exact situation.

So are they feeling bad that it didn't make as much sense to them?

Well, if La Cochinella is just simply curious and not finding themselves in the shoes of Sadie, which just hilarious that the main character's name is Sadie.

Yes.

Sadie, Sadie, Married Lady.

But I commend wanting to expand one's mind and experience in life.

But I am not sure if that is the case because they mentioned that it took so long to get it from the library that it's now past Hanukkah.

Right.

But they still read it.

Which then like that sort of comes into conversations of privilege and because I'm like, if you're waiting that long, can you find another library?

Can you just go to books a million in the mall and just read it in the store?

Right, but and also like, of course, the book is out right before Hanukkah.

You're not getting that book back until after Hanukkah because the person that lent it is going to want it for the duration of Hanukkah.

It's just very interesting to me.

I'm this is such an interesting review because.

Does a book become insignificant if it's only for a very niche group of people?

Because that is an argument that La Cochonela is making.

Right.

Yeah, I came across that same thought when I read that portion of it, because I thought, well, isn't that the point of books?

Like

genres, that's why we have multiple genres in bookstores.

Right, like this book exists because there are families that have parents of different faiths.

One parent being Jewish, one parent being Christian, it happens all the time.

So you would think if you were in that situation, you would be looking for a book like that.

And if I were, Let's say an author who maybe grew up in that kind of situation or something like that.

Maybe I would feel compelled to write a book so that there would be other kids like me who could feel like they were being seen in this moment.

So what's the problem with the story tailored to a specific family?

Well, exactly.

I mean, you need some narrative centerpiece, but I'm curious because I hear La Cochonela's point that if I wanted to raise children in my interfaith home, I would think that if I was choosing this book, I would have an expectation that it would really nurture and educate and give a lot of background.

You would hope that.

I mean, I'm imagining, is this a children's book?

Yes, this is a this is a children's book, which is also why I was confused.

I mean, again, no offense, not trying to pass judgment.

But like, La Cochinella is writing this review as if they are just trying to, they never mentioned having a kid.

Like, are they reading this to a child?

Or are they reading this for their own pleasure, do we think?

And they've read a lot of children's books.

I really cannot deduce.

I, on, I can't decipher the reason that La Cochinella is reading this.

I, for a while in the review, I thought it was because they were secretly an illustrator.

Oh, and, oh, because the why?

They have

so many opinions about drawings.

Maybe.

I, you know, okay, I, I'm sort of of two minds here, but what is La Cochonela's spelling and grammar like, aside from how they spell their name?

O.

C.

D.

Excellent.

Interesting.

Okay.

Alright, well, like, really, like, this person seems like a writer, like, the way that they, like, use ellipses, they have moments where they use bold lettering and, you know, parenthesis, it's just, like, it's very pretty, like, just looking at it and not reading it, you hang it on the fridge, just looks, oh, even italicized words, very sexy,

I love that about Goodreads,

Yes,

you can really do like Microsoft Word formatting.

It's yes, it's really well formatted.

So I'm just curious about the timeline of the month of December because the examples that La Cochonela uses to sort of point out that this can't work every year, like this is the leap year type of book, right?

You could stuff a turkey with Google.

It doesn't matter.

Like that doesn't matter.

Yeah, I thought the same thing.

You can leave latkes out for Santa.

Even if Hanukkah was two weeks ago, like it doesn't, I don't know, like, like we didn't get examples.

We didn't get examples of like, if there's a specific thing you incorporate into Hanukkah, dealing with Christmas, like if they aren't on the, they may be, but then I also don't think like if you're interfaith and you want this entire month to Encapsulate both holidays, then like you're gonna have to do a little bit of scheduling.

Creativity.

Yeah, no matter what the point is that everybody celebrates Christmas on December 25th.

And if you're a Jewish kid, you're like not included in that.

So this is a way of of bridging the gap between the two.

And I think it's really cool.

I love the idea of stuffing the turkey.

With Kugel, I mean, it's people do birthday months.

It's the holiday month, you know, it's all month long.

Oh, wait, I do want to, I just have to mention.

Yeah.

Who are the king and queen?

I knew you were

going to mention that.

Isn't

that Herod and Esther or something?

Queen Esther.

Yeah, but that's not Hanukkah.

That's um, her, but, but isn't,

but isn't Hanukkah?

No, that's Passover.

When they were kicked out, that's Passover.

'cause they didn't have time for, that's Passover.

So Hanukkah is the eight Knights.

'cause they didn't have

the, it was the, yeah, because the oil, the candle.

The oil for the candle.

But isn't that because of persecution?

Yes.

Isn't that the king of Egypt?

I don't know.

They're slaves

in Egypt.

That's Passover.

Next year in

Jerusalem.

That's Passover.

That's

Passover.

But this was that they were, I think they were remaking the temple or something.

Cause the temple had previously been destroyed for like idol worship or whatever.

And they were sort of, that was the whole like Maccabees, you know, like, Then they got the land back.

This is what I remember, you guys.

But see, but all of this is in.

Then they built up the temple and they needed to get supply.

They like needed the light to continue working.

Right.

But that king.

And the

oil was supposed to only last one day.

Maybe La Cochonela

doesn't celebrate either holiday because the Torah.

In Christian speak is the Old Testament.

So I don't understand La Cochonela's confusion.

I mean, we don't know who the king and queen is.

I mean, it seems that way in this conversation, but like, that's not some, like, is that a Jewish thing?

Like, no, it was like, I don't know.

Or is it a

Christian thing?

Maybe it is a Christian thing.

I like, like, is there a king in the, is Christ the king?

I don't know.

I don't know.

I think

Christ is like a metaphysical king.

That's what I mean.

Like maybe there's like a storyline with that.

I'm not sure.

But the point is the message that I'm getting is anything that would be specific about teaching a child About the history of Christmas and about the history of Hanukkah was lacking, that there was not enough of that.

And you know, the first, this is a true story because I grew up in an area that didn't have a lot of Jewish people.

The first time I ever even heard the word Hanukkah was the Rugrats special, which was completely tailored to children.

The Rugrats was like an animated TV show and it told the whole story.

So there is real power in child storytelling.

So I do really get La Cochonela's point that they didn't take the opportunity to truly teach.

Right.

Which makes me question what is the age group for this book because sometimes if they're too young, then maybe it's too much, you know.

Right, there's

only like a certain amount of information you want to, you want to, and also this seems like it's a book about traditions and less about the history of what the holidays represent, right?

So then do you think that?

Loc Cochinella is like, do you think this is a truthful review?

Or do we think they're being shady?

One of the places where I feel like Loc Cochinella fails is letting us know the context in which she's reading this book.

So that makes it a little bit confusing to me, but I do think they were very disappointed.

They had a lot of expectations.

They were waiting for this book from the library.

They really, For whatever reason, wanted this book to be incredible and they were disappointed.

So like, if we were choosing to check this out from the library and we came across this review, Does this leave you with an impression that this will be your experience or do you think this was a fluke experience?

Because to me, like you said, it's this issue of context, which I don't get because, It might be interesting to read this little book about a character named Sadie and this is what their family does to celebrate both holidays.

That doesn't have to like have anything to do with educating me or how to incorporate like it could just be a story.

I completely agree.

I don't think that reading this review would stop me from buying the book truthfully.

See, and I'm not sure because really, well, I really am just I think the main point I'm getting from this review is that There's a lack of knowledge in the book.

There's a lack of education.

But if you were buying the book because you were,

but I could buy this for my nephew who has,

or yes, free.

Perfect.

Yeah.

For your nephew.

So like if you were going to buy this for your nephew, no,

I would probably still buy it because it's a, it's at least a book that incorporates both realities, right?

And so much of storytelling is very exclusive, visionary.

So I appreciate the openness.

And then maybe I would still buy it hoping that something better will come along in the future that really teaches.

Yeah.

Or that maybe my expectations for this book are more about How can we combine the cultures?

And I think it's a great idea to put Kugel in Turkey.

So if I was going to read this to my baby and this was how we were going to talk about integrating these two worlds, then maybe they would be really excited to put the Kugel in the Turkey.

And like, we could integrate some of these traditions, like putting the latkes out for Santa Claus into our life in a way that kids, kids love that kind of stuff.

Like, Oh, I read it in a book and now I'm going to do it in real life, you know?

Correct.

So I actually think that some of the things that La Cochinella pointed out as negatives, I thought were kind of cool.

So.

I didn't find this humorous on purpose.

I sort of, I was just laughing.

Probably the funniest part was I've read a couple of picture books.

So I think I understand.

Yeah.

I mean, I think it was just anecdotally funny because it's just so funny to think that somebody would take a book that's written for like three year olds this seriously enough.

To write as lengthy a review as, what's her name wrote about, uh, like Fifty Shades of Grey.

Oh, Shanice.

Shanice.

I love Shanice.

But like, you know, like this was worthy of a dissertation, this children's book.

Yes.

That is probably just the kind of gift that You buy for an interfaith family for Hanukkah with like some cookies and latkes in it, you know, I think

we've inadvertently suggested another Shark Tank item,

a basket with this book and

no, someone needs to create a more background, traditional educational story for Sadie's family.

Oh, yes.

All right.

I think I think we've beaten this.

Like we've gotten everything out of this we could get out of this in this assessment.

Okay.

What do you think?

Yeah, I can crown it.

Okay.

All right.

So, Chelsey and I each have our own set of one to five crown cards and in an effort to be fair and not influenced by one another we will simultaneously reveal our rating.

The Queens are tabulating!

You ready?

Yeah.

Total score.

Oh, unanimous!

We're both holding up two and a half crowns.

Okay, Trey, tell us, why did you give La Cochinella two and a half crowns?

Okay, this is something that's never occurred for me before, but I'm wondering if it's fair to review something if you didn't buy it, you just rented it from the library.

I think it is fair if you've If you've read it, you don't have to own it in

this, in this context, but

that just occurred to me, I gave it two and a half because I think the impact is a little less the middle of the road for me, I'm missing some key ingredients to connect me to La Cochinella because I want to know if I am in a similar place because if I'm not, Then maybe it doesn't really matter that much.

I think this book can have value without it needing to be the educational tool for someone from zero, which I think maybe La Cochinella wanted it to be zero, but it was a two star, was a two star.

That's a really great point.

I just two and a half because ultimately I still would consider buying it.

And like you said, some of the negative points actually seem positive to me.

So for that reason, two and a half.

Now you, Chelsey Donn, why did you also do two and a half?

Because again, middle of the road, I felt like there were a lot of spoilers in there that were sort of interesting to me.

I think the person that's going to be reading this is probably going to be a parent.

So maybe it will have the positive effect that it had on me where I was like, Oh, this is interesting with the tradition.

So I feel like there was a lot of information given and the use of grammar and all of the ways that the review is formatted was really great.

So that was where the points came from.

And then ultimately, yeah, took away those two and a half crowns because.

I don't think I really care and it's not going to keep me from buying the book.

So that's that.

Well, you know, we, we definitely, I think we did lock Coach and Ella at Justice.

I

think so too.

All right.

Yeah.

Good job.

Funny, very funny review.

Oh my God.

Thank you.

Trey, tell us, Who is your Royal Highness this week?

My Royal Highness.

Okay.

So today I am inducting a very specific product from Costco.

It is peanut butter pretzels from Costco specifically.

So good.

Okay.

I accidentally purchased them.

David was like, what is this?

It's so good.

We went a couple of weeks where we didn't go to Costco.

I found a different version at CVS, not nearly as superior.

Like the taste was totally different.

So these are peanut butter filled pretzels and the Costco version explicitly says on the container, Virginia peanut

butter.

Those are the bigger peanuts, right?

I don't know.

I think they're bigger.

But the difference is.

But oh, my God, they are, I mean, peanut butter is like something that like, you know, you can really overindulge in.

It is sort of like, once you pop the fun, don't stop Pringles.

But like, and I love pretzels.

So like, I have to buy two of them at once because David and I love them so much.

And we made the mistake.

Oh, no,

actually, I'm going to, I'm blaming it on David.

David made the mistake.

To feed one to Winnie and Hunter.

And they also think they're just so good.

I can't even bring the container.

I was going to stage the container so that I could hold it up and show you specifically.

And I can't because the dogs will go nuts.

If Winnie hears, it's like the Pepto Bismol jingle jangle.

She will wake up from her sleep right now and run over here and beg me.

They're so good.

That's why I'm inducting you.

Costco brand, peanut butter pretzels, Virginia peanut butter, You are my Royal Highness,

I just love eating ya.

Yeah, and apparently the dogs concur.

All right, we did it.

We have done it.

This is another round, another night on our Are You a RQ Menorah.

Thank you guys so much for joining us today.

If you like what you heard, will you do us a favor, a Hanukkah favor, and as a gift to the queens?

Share this podcast with all of your friends.

Tell them that you love it and that they should be listening or listen to it with them.

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That's true.

And tell your

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