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Kasim shares his 17 lessons in 17 years and he stresses the importance of the third Solutions 8 Core Value.
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0:00 Intro
0:25 17 Things in 17 Years
2:00 Entrepreneurship is NOT fulfillment
5:32 Get really good at systems
7:49 Recruiter & Banker
8:57 If you can’t delegate EVERY task that takes place in your company, you don’t own a business, you own a job
10:57 People are the most important part of business
13:10 You should be the dumbest person who works for you
16:03 Only do business with people you’d trust on a handshake
16:57 Paper up anyway
19:32 Life is too short to work with people who drain you
21:23 Niche down into excellence
24:19 The corridor principle
26:21 Get excited about problems! (and then melt them)
28:31 Need help with Google Ads?
29:12 Don’t be the expert, be the guide
30:49 Focus on recurring revenue
32:02 Get good at the game of money
35:08 Don’t get romantic about how you make your money
36:08 One of the Solutions 8 Core Values
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So I just celebrated 17 years in business, which is so
Kasim:that I'm really proud of and also makes me feel really old.
Kasim:But we posted one of the social graphics online and somebody said, well, what
Kasim:have you learned over the last 17 years?
Kasim:And it was a really jarring question because it felt almost like a challenge.
Kasim:Cuz part of me feels like I'm still just as dumb and naive as
Kasim:I was when I first started out.
Kasim:and then, that's the imposter syndrome.
Kasim:Self-deprecating, self-loathing, facet of me.
Kasim:But then the other half goes like, Gosh, I really feel like
Kasim:I've picked up a lot on the way.
Kasim:I've learned a lot, I've had so many failures, but you learn
Kasim:from your failures way more than you learned from your successes.
Kasim:And so I took it as a challenge.
Kasim:I was like, what have I learned over the course of the last 17 years?
Kasim:And I wanted to come up with one really strong lesson a year.
Kasim:So I've got 17 things for you.
Kasim:17 things learned over the course of 17 years in business.
Kasim:Now the very first thing I'm gonna preface with is the 17 years is, an interesting.
Kasim:characterization of what has happened because I haven't had the
Kasim:exact same business for 17 years.
Kasim:Like most agencies, and I think most businesses, it's gone
Kasim:through a series of evolutions.
Kasim:And so while I've been in business for 17 years, and I don't wanna take
Kasim:that away from myself, it's been the same entity, the same phone number,
Kasim:the same address for most of it.
Kasim:the business model has evolved and I think that that's actually.
Kasim:My credit, it doesn't necessarily discredit the 17 year epoch.
Kasim:You know, I can't say, oh, I've been doing Google ads for 17 years.
Kasim:Although I was doing it for most of them, it wasn't a core part of the service.
Kasim:if that makes any sense.
Kasim:And that's actually gonna factor into the very first learning lesson that I'm
Kasim:gonna share with you, which is drum roll.
Kasim:entrepreneurship is not fulfillment.
Kasim:This is lesson number one.
Kasim:This is one of the most important lessons that I ever, ever had to learn.
Kasim:And it's something that I, I get more bullish with as I get older
Kasim:than, as I spin off more entities and get involved in more things.
Kasim:If you're gonna open a bakery, you shouldn't be the baker.
Kasim:If you're gonna open a mechanic shop.
Kasim:You shouldn't be the mechanic.
Kasim:If you're gonna open a gym, you shouldn't be the personal trainer.
Kasim:When I first.
Kasim:My entrepreneurial career, I thought I needed to do the
Kasim:things that I was selling.
Kasim:I could tinker on a computer, but I wasn't a software engineer by any means, but
Kasim:I was selling software, and so I went I tried to learn software development.
Kasim:I'm selling websites and I learn how to build websites, and I'm selling Google
Kasim:ads, and I learn how to do Google ads.
Kasim:And the issue with that is it puts you at a robust disadvantage because now,
Kasim:first of all, your limitation to scale is you, second of all, when you are.
Kasim:The fulfillment house.
Kasim:You begin operating your business from the paradigm of, the tactician
Kasim:and the tactician's paradigm is actually a paradigm of limitation.
Kasim:And it has to be.
Kasim:It has to be, this isn't an indictment on tacticians, but if you're the
Kasim:one doing the work, it's your job to manage the expectations and
Kasim:talk about all the reasons that.
Kasim:Isn't going to work or the limitations imposed on us, or how long it's gonna
Kasim:take or how much it's gonna cost.
Kasim:so when you're approaching business that way, it's a limiting view.
Kasim:But an entrepreneur should have an unlimited view, I feel very strongly.
Kasim:and if you are currently performing the fulfillment, that's okay.
Kasim:Go replace yourself in that role first before anything.
Kasim:So many entrepreneurs, when they start a business, if they're doing
Kasim:the fulfillment, they try to replace themselves with like finance or
Kasim:recruiting or legal or processor.
Kasim:No, replace yourself with fulfillment.
Kasim:If you own a website agency and you're building the websites, farm that out.
Kasim:and I'll tell you what I did.
Kasim:You know, solutions eight is the number one Google Ads agency on the planet.
Kasim:Here's what's really funny, fun little open air secret.
Kasim:When we started nicheing down into Google Ads, we didn't do
Kasim:fulfillment for Google Ads.
Kasim:We went and found the best agency we can find little agency outta
Kasim:Texas that ended up blowing up.
Kasim:And we just sold their services.
Kasim:We were just a sales engine.
Kasim:But it helped me with everything.
Kasim:It helped me with the messaging, the sales funnel, the
Kasim:conversations, client management.
Kasim:Cause we were still doing the client management piece,
Kasim:vendor expectation management.
Kasim:And I didn't have to do the really hard part, which was.
Kasim:Learn how to do the fulfillment.
Kasim:The fulfillment is available and accessible to you.
Kasim:So if you don't necessarily know how to get started, go white,
Kasim:label somebody else's stuff, go resell somebody else's stuff.
Kasim:the entrepreneurial piece is actually everything after the fulfillment.
Kasim:And that even includes improving upon the way that products for
Kasim:services are fulfilled upon.
Kasim:you may disagree with me, I don't care.
Kasim:This is my video.
Kasim:Entrepreneurship is not fulfillment.
Kasim:And if you want a really good read on this topic, I'd go check out
Kasim:Michael Gerber's EMyth Revisited.
Kasim:And in the EMyth Revisited, he says, basically the same thing.
Kasim:People get into most industries because they love doing, and I love to paint,
Kasim:so I'm gonna go teach children painting.
Kasim:Well, guess what you'll never do again.
Kasim:If you go teach children painting, you will never.
Kasim:and if you've done something, a labor of life, then you know
Kasim:that you've been privy to that.
Kasim:So entrepreneurship is not fulfillment.
Kasim:That's lesson than number one.
Kasim:Lesson than number two is.
Kasim:Get really good at systems.
Kasim:It's ironic that this is the lesson that came up is I couldn't toggle over inside
Kasim:of my little screen share thing here.
Kasim:Get really good at systems where entrepreneurship is not fulfillment,
Kasim:and I don't believe the entrepreneur should be doing most of what's
Kasim:happening inside an organization.
Kasim:I do think that.
Kasim:, if you were to take inventory of the tasks, of the skills
Kasim:of the proficiencies that an entrepreneurship should be good at.
Kasim:It's the systems piece because systems are what scale.
Kasim:And without systems, you actually don't have a business.
Kasim:You have a room of people who are willing to do what you tell 'em to do, but it's
Kasim:the systems that make things function.
Kasim:the systems are what?
Kasim:The business, an actual functional entity.
Kasim:You know, you often hear people refer to businesses as, you know,
Kasim:I really want a well-oiled machine.
Kasim:I've heard that analogy very, very often.
Kasim:I think the very first time I heard it was in a Franklin Cubby book.
Kasim:But it's turned into a cliche.
Kasim:We want a well-oiled machine.
Kasim:Well, the machine is nothing more than a collection of components.
Kasim:tethered together by systems and it's you, the entrepreneur that needs
Kasim:to get good at systems that doesn't even mean you need to build 'em.
Kasim:I don't build any of our automation here at Solutions Eight.
Kasim:I've got two people, Yvonne, our cto, Julianne, our director of
Kasim:automation, both of them brilliant, but I know systems really well.
Kasim:, I'd say it's one of my strongest skill sets I know systems well
Kasim:enough to know how to lead and direct the systems that I want.
Kasim:for our customer onboarding, I really want it so that when somebody fills out this
Kasim:form, goes to the finance team, this goes to the client management team, this goes
Kasim:to the strategy team, and this goes to the client manager, or excuse me, to the
Kasim:client and these ways for these reasons.
Kasim:So I've defined the system.
Kasim:You wanna get good at systems and.
Kasim:Doing so puts you in the position of unencumbering yourself, because
Kasim:what's nice about somebody who's good at systems is it forces you to
Kasim:view the entity from the outside.
Kasim:. And if you're ever within the entity, you've heard this all the time.
Kasim:work on your business side and your business.
Kasim:Well, getting good at systems, that's what that is, is working on your business.
Kasim:And so where entrepreneurship is not fulfillment, fulfillment would be
Kasim:working inside of your business where you're working on systems, that's
Kasim:when you're working on your business.
Kasim:Which leads me to number three.
Kasim:recruiter and a banker.
Kasim:This came from Ryan Dice.
Kasim:Ryan Dice, who Digital Marker.
Kasim:He's been a friend and a mentor of mine for a long, long time.
Kasim:And, I was kind of complaining to him actually at one point I was like, man,
Kasim:I don't do anything I like to do anymore and I'm just running around trying to find
Kasim:the best people and, managed the money.
Kasim:And he laughed and he goes, yeah, on a long enough timeline,
Kasim:everybody in business just turns into a recruiter and a banker.
Kasim:And I thought, Gosh, that makes so much sense.
Kasim:That makes so much sense.
Kasim:You are going to, as you scale, need people, which is one of the lessons that
Kasim:I wanna talk about here subsequently.
Kasim:And you're going to need to really understand the financial piece of
Kasim:business, which is another one of the lessons I wanna talk about.
Kasim:But really what I've handed you are the three roles maybe of entrepreneurship.
Kasim:Systems architect, recruit.
Kasim:Banker and either get really good at those roles or find somebody a
Kasim:partner or somebody you can delegate to that is really good at those roles.
Kasim:Which leads me to the next rule, which is delegation.
Kasim:If you can't delegate every task that takes place in your company, you
Kasim:don't own a business, you own a job.
Kasim:If you can't delegate every.
Kasim:that takes place in your company.
Kasim:You don't own a business.
Kasim:Everything that happens in your organization should be delegatable.
Kasim:And if you tell me like, oh, well gosh, I'm a high-end Salesforce
Kasim:consultant and I'm the only one that knows how to do these things, great.
Kasim:Well that's not a business.
Kasim:you can't walk away from that business for 30 days, come back, have it be
Kasim:more efficient and you'd be making more money cuz that would be a business.
Kasim:As you walk through your day, a really fun thought exercise is to
Kasim:look at your calendar or your task list, which should be the same thing.
Kasim:By the way, if your task list isn't your calendar, then there's
Kasim:just a whole bunch of list of stuff that's not gonna get done.
Kasim:Learn to time block, learn to bring your tasks under your calendar, and everything
Kasim:on your calendar should be delegatable.
Kasim:Every task you undertake should be delegatable and delegation
Kasim:is actually the last bastion.
Kasim:it's the last option.
Kasim:The first question, you and I learned this from Steve Napolitano.
Kasim:You ask yourself three questions anytime you're looking at any
Kasim:task or any any calendar event.
Kasim:Question number.
Kasim:Can I eliminate this?
Kasim:Do I actually have to do this?
Kasim:And as you get more sophisticated as an entrepreneur, you start to
Kasim:realize how often the answer is yes.
Kasim:Question number two, can I automate this?
Kasim:And that goes back to being good at systems.
Kasim:Can I automate this?
Kasim:And then question number three, if the answer's no to question
Kasim:one and two, can I delegate this?
Kasim:By the time you get to question number three, you should have
Kasim:nothing left on your task list.
Kasim:Your job is the entrepreneur, is to have margin, to have the ability to dream and
Kasim:grow and meet people and network and.
Kasim:read and just look at what's going on.
Kasim:You should not this whole hustle culture thing, which is, it's
Kasim:funny cuz you'll never not be busy cuz you're an entrepreneur.
Kasim:That's what you do.
Kasim:But you shouldn't be busy with other people's priorities.
Kasim:I love Brennan Bouchard says this, he says that your email inbox is
Kasim:just a list of other people's tasks.
Kasim:It's just other people's task lists.
Kasim:So stay.
Kasim:Other people's task list delegate everything inside of your business.
Kasim:The next rule, and this gets a little touchy-feely, but I'm gonna get a
Kasim:little touchy-feely, people are the most important part of business.
Kasim:People are so critically important on so many levels that it gets religious.
Kasim:obviously, right?
Kasim:Like obviously people are the most important thing in a positive way,
Kasim:and important in a negative way too.
Kasim:But it comes to the positive piece, and you know, I look
Kasim:at my business for example.
Kasim:All an agency has to offer, an agency can only sell three things
Kasim:or a combination of these things.
Kasim:Processes, programs, people, processes are easily commoditizable.
Kasim:You can get all my processes right now for free.
Kasim:Online, we've given 'em away a hundred million.
Kasim:Programs easily.
Kasim:Commoditizable SASS is the most scalable business in the whole wide world.
Kasim:Anybody can go build and sell software people.
Kasim:That's the key people.
Kasim:Really good, motivated, hardworking people that care.
Kasim:People that are well trained, people that live inside of a culture that they trust.
Kasim:People build your business around people, and it's really interesting because very
Kasim:often you build your business around the people that are your customers.
Kasim:I think that maybe you should build the business around the
Kasim:people that are your staff.
Kasim:You know, one member of my staff handles about 30 customers.
Kasim:that's, you don't wanna talk about scale.
Kasim:So do I want one customer to be able to influence a member of my staff
Kasim:negatively, who's now gonna go spread that across 29 other customers?
Kasim:No.
Kasim:No.
Kasim:I don't.
Kasim:so the whole customers always write mantra.
Kasim:It's not that we don't treat our customers with kindness and
Kasim:respect, we absolutely do, but hierarchically speaking, it's my staff.
Kasim:It's the people that are a part of Solutions Eight, that actually
Kasim:make solutions eight more than any other single customer.
Kasim:Find a way to find and cultivate amazing people.
Kasim:I've got almost a hundred employees and I'm so blown away
Kasim:by how amazing all of them are.
Kasim:They're just this group of rock stars, and I've got a really good hiring system.
Kasim:I've given it away online.
Kasim:You can have it.
Kasim:. So I have a system for finding these folks, but so much of it has to
Kasim:do with the fact that I just find people that are brilliant at what
Kasim:they do and I get outta their way cuz people are so, so, so important.
Kasim:Which leads me to the next one.
Kasim:You should be the dumbest person who works for you.
Kasim:And this sounds a lot like lip service.
Kasim:this sounds like something that people say from the stage or from the
Kasim:pulpit or whatever, and they don't necessarily mean it, it's one of
Kasim:those fun cliches that's, makes it's virtue signaling in a managerial.
Kasim:Here's why.
Kasim:It's true.
Kasim:Everybody that works for me is smarter than I am along the access
Kasim:of analysis for which they work.
Kasim:Does that make sense?
Kasim:That was a little flowery.
Kasim:I'll try again.
Kasim:Everybody who works for me is better at their job than I would be.
Kasim:who works for me is smarter than I am at the thing that they're doing, and
Kasim:if they're not, I'm actively working to train them to be smarter than I am.
Kasim:I hear so often from peers and even when I was doing a little bit of coaching,
Kasim:people would be like, ah, gosh, you know, it's so hard to find good people and if
Kasim:you want something done, do it yourself.
Kasim:Sounds like you've done this poorly.
Kasim:You want to go find people.
Kasim:And generally speaking, when I hear from people like that, what they've
Kasim:done is they've surrounded themselves with people that aren't as capable
Kasim:on purpose, and they don't even realize it because they're threatened.
Kasim:They're threatened, they don't wanna be around people that
Kasim:are competent or strong or.
Kasim:and we're better because then it means that they're gonna
Kasim:have to rely on those people.
Kasim:Well, actually, what a wonderful place to be.
Kasim:You're relying on these people, and as long as you trust those folks, like
Kasim:gosh, your business is gonna grow so much faster, so much better, so much,
Kasim:With more structural fortitude than if you try to do everything yourself.
Kasim:So go find people that are better than you at whatever it's that they're
Kasim:doing and put 'em in those positions.
Kasim:That's the other thing too.
Kasim:I love that quote.
Kasim:I think it's Einstein.
Kasim:If you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it'll
Kasim:spend its whole life thinking.
Kasim:It's stupid.
Kasim:I've had employees that weren't good at stuff, but they were
Kasim:amazing at other things.
Kasim:Well, that's a real easy solution there.
Kasim:It's like art.
Kasim:I'm gonna take this off your plate and I'm gonna move you over here.
Kasim:My business partner's a good example.
Kasim:My business partner, John Moran, smartest Google ADSD guy in the
Kasim:whole world is the reason we're the number one rank Google Ads agency.
Kasim:He is a literal savant, literal genius.
Kasim:He was my employee before he was my business.
Kasim:. John has a real hard time with processes.
Kasim:the TCM reports, he just doesn't do 'em, just does not do 'em.
Kasim:And a petulant manager type would be like, oh, John's not doing his job.
Kasim:We're gonna fire him.
Kasim:Well, I just lost the best resource I've ever had in my entire life.
Kasim:Instead, , I decided, all right, John doesn't do these things,
Kasim:but he's massively valuable.
Kasim:So then I hired somebody to follow him around and do those things for him.
Kasim:So, you know, we have all these things that need to be updated inside of our
Kasim:system, and everything's run off of air table and, a myriad of managerial
Kasim:processes that John doesn't do.
Kasim:It's just not the way his head works.
Kasim:And, you wanna be right or do you wanna be successful?
Kasim:And so, surround yourself with people that are phenomenal and
Kasim:and then enable them to be.
Kasim:Equip them to be the best that they can possibly be.
Kasim:And sometimes that means getting outta their way and, don't have a
Kasim:quicksodic dedication to the rules.
Kasim:Speaking of people only trust, only do business with people you trust on a
Kasim:handshake, only do business with people you trust in a handshake, I'm almost 40
Kasim:years old, I've been burned so many times.
Kasim:and it's, interestingly, looking back, I usually kind of knew, you usually
Kasim:go into it going like, man, this person's a little shady, or There's
Kasim:something not right here, or I just don't have a right gut feeling.
Kasim:Not always.
Kasim:I've been snuck attacked too.
Kasim:But if you don't feel right about somebody, anybody, vendor, client,
Kasim:employee, partner, jump ship, life is too short and people are too important.
Kasim:And the people you surround yourself with are gonna influence
Kasim:you more than anybody else.
Kasim:You spend more time at work than you do with your family.
Kasim:So if you don't trust somebody, run, run, jumping and hide.
Kasim:Now, that doesn't mean that you're silly.
Kasim:Do business with people you would do business with on a handshake, but
Kasim:paper up anyway, get it in writing.
Kasim:Anyway, so, hey, I trust you.
Kasim:I'm really excited about working with you.
Kasim:Just to make sure you and I can manage expectations and we're on the same page.
Kasim:Let's put it down in writing.
Kasim:Doesn't have to be great.
Kasim:Big legalese.
Kasim:Everybody hires a lawyer.
Kasim:Let's put an email together.
Kasim:This is my understanding, this is your understanding.
Kasim:Anybody who doesn't wanna do that or make sure, feel uncomfortable
Kasim:doing that, run away from 'em.
Kasim:I mentioned a, an agency that we outsourced our work to out of Texas.
Kasim:Interesting thing about the, that agency is we were really good friends with them.
Kasim:We'd go down to the city where they were and we'd have barbecue together.
Kasim:And I was on the phone with the CEO every day for a year and a half.
Kasim:He and I were either chatting back and forth, or talking back and forth.
Kasim:I thought he was one of my best friends.
Kasim:We ended up scaling outside of their abilities to
Kasim:fulfill, caused some friction.
Kasim:they have a whole side to their story, so maybe we didn't handle it properly
Kasim:or whatever, but we basically sent over a letter saying, Hey, we need
Kasim:y'all to be able to perform better.
Kasim:If you can't, we're gonna find somebody else.
Kasim:We gave them 180 days notice.
Kasim:Or something close to that.
Kasim:They turned around and they gave us a 30 day notice, which
Kasim:is all we were contracted for.
Kasim:So in 30 days, as I'm scaling up, I think I have, hundred clients at
Kasim:this point or something close to it.
Kasim:I'm gonna lose my only vendor and I have no contractual recourse and my very strong
Kasim:opinion is in, maybe I can be forgiven.
Kasim:Attempting to assume somebody's motivations, but I think they saw, oh,
Kasim:we just created our biggest competitor.
Kasim:Let's try to put them outta business.
Kasim:And then I had to create an entire Google Ads agency, a fulfillment agency.
Kasim:in 30 days.
Kasim:So that whole piece, entrepreneurship isn't fulfillment.
Kasim:Well, I'll make sure you have fulfillment covered.
Kasim:And I didn't have a black backup plan and I didn't have that because
Kasim:I thought I could trust these folks.
Kasim:So do business with people that you feel like you can trust, but paper up anyway.
Kasim:Cause if I had it in writing, Hey, if anything ever goes wrong, this is
Kasim:how long we have the transition out.
Kasim:they stole accounts that.
Kasim:owned.
Kasim:There were MCC accounts with my name on 'em.
Kasim:They said Solutions eight, and they wouldn't hand them over.
Kasim:They actually locked us out of 'em.
Kasim:So, interesting things happen.
Kasim:Trust, but verify paper up, get it in writing, and, and
Kasim:that goes for a lot of things.
Kasim:if you're hiring a vendor or an employee or a co.
Kasim:Most of my employees, 90% of 'em are offshore somewhere in countries where
Kasim:employment agreements aren't enforceable.
Kasim:I have 'em signed one anyway, just to make sure we're on the same page and
Kasim:we're all talking about the same thing.
Kasim:Speaking of next lesson, life is too short to work with people who drain you.
Kasim:So if you have somebody who's, and it doesn't matter, your biggest client.
Kasim:Most amount of profitability.
Kasim:Your best employee business partner that's just a rockstar salesperson.
Kasim:If you get a knot in your stomach when they call you, that's the sign.
Kasim:What's interesting is they're always costing you more than they're giving
Kasim:you, and you just don't know it.
Kasim:I had a business associate who was like this.
Kasim:She she wasn't unkind to me, but she was.
Kasim:, she took more than she gave when it came to, energy and discussions.
Kasim:And it just always felt very combative.
Kasim:And, even though we were friends and we were growing a business together,
Kasim:I never felt like I was being fairly treated or getting the whole story, or it
Kasim:always felt like I was being maneuvered.
Kasim:And what I found was, is I actually avoid, I started avoiding her.
Kasim:I started working later in the day.
Kasim:and, Planning my time around when I knew she wasn't gonna be there.
Kasim:Cause I just, constantly felt like I was under attack and
Kasim:it, hurt my ability to perform.
Kasim:It hurt the growth of our business.
Kasim:And, even though she's bringing in all this business, it just wasn't worth it.
Kasim:And when, finally made moves to resolve that situation, and I
Kasim:don't want to mischaracterize her, she wasn't a bad person.
Kasim:We just had personality types that just clashed.
Kasim:They just didn't work together.
Kasim:And I told my wife every day for a year and a half, I'm like,
Kasim:man, I'm so glad I'm out of that.
Kasim:But you don't realize it when you.
Kasim:. So I'm trying to offer this to you now.
Kasim:I wanna give you permission if there's somebody who drains you.
Kasim:and that's the note for me, is if I see their name in an email or if
Kasim:I see their name come up on a text message, or they call and I have a
Kasim:negative response, that's when I know I need to not be in this relationship.
Kasim:Little more tactical.
Kasim:Next lesson niche down into excellence.
Kasim:I've built four multimillion dollar agencies.
Kasim:I've had two exits, and it's all come from nicheing down.
Kasim:We had the highest performing real estate investment campaign
Kasim:on the planet for seven years.
Kasim:That's Google Ads for real estate investing like you wanna talk about.
Kasim:You can't get more niche than that.
Kasim:We've got an agency right now that serves Montessori schools.
Kasim:There's only 4,000 or 4,500 accredited Montessori schools in the United States.
Kasim:You can't get more niche than that.
Kasim:Solutions eight started as a full funnel agency.
Kasim:We were offering website development and graphic design and content creation.
Kasim:and as I started cutting off services, I started making more money and scaling up.
Kasim:And then it was John who decided, Hey, let's just be Google Ads specific.
Kasim:And when we did that unbelievable growth we almost couldn't control it.
Kasim:Now you'll notice that there's, there's.
Kasim:Niche down into excellence.
Kasim:Here's what this means.
Kasim:Niche down, choose a niche.
Kasim:And there's, there's two axis for nicheing by the way.
Kasim:There's the x-axis is nicheing down into a service offering, and the Y
Kasim:axis is nicheing down into an industry.
Kasim:And so, example would be a Google Ads agency.
Kasim:So I'm not just a marketing agency, I'm not a traffic agency,
Kasim:I'm not a paid traffic agency.
Kasim:I'm a Google ads agency.
Kasim:Bam niche down into my service.
Kasim:And then you might say, well, I only do Google ads for landscapers, or I
Kasim:only do Google ads for e-commerce.
Kasim:Which would be a broader niche.
Kasim:You don't have to niche down into both.
Kasim:But nicheing into both.
Kasim:Like, when we do Google ads for Montessori schools or Google ads for real estate
Kasim:investors, that's when you get to be better than anybody else has ever been.
Kasim:Niche down.
Kasim:Excellence.
Kasim:We're the best Google Ads agency in the world.
Kasim:Why?
Kasim:Because all we do is Google Ads.
Kasim:I actually don't know another agency.
Kasim:I know a couple of freelancers and you know, let's say smaller organizations,
Kasim:but like a group of people of let's say 10 or 15 or more, right?
Kasim:Like a substantive size organization.
Kasim:I don't know their, another agency that does only Google ads, all of them do paid.
Kasim:, you know, Google Ads and Facebook and whatever, or Google Ads and Bing.
Kasim:Or maybe they do Google ads and funnels, or, because we did only Google Ads,
Kasim:it was so easy for us to get good.
Kasim:It was all we were doing.
Kasim:you know, it was Gary Keller's one thing niche down into excellence.
Kasim:it's been the most important lesson I've ever learned in my entrepreneurial life.
Kasim:Maybe it should have been first is finding your niche and there's
Kasim:no niche that's too small.
Kasim:and there's so many niches that are underserved.
Kasim:I think there's gonna be an entrepreneurial gold rush
Kasim:towards little, niche businesses.
Kasim:And I go back and forth between niche and niche, by the way.
Kasim:Cause I don't know how it's like, nobody wants to work for like a,
Kasim:Italian restaurant for instance.
Kasim:A little mom and pop, single location Italian restaurant gets
Kasim:no love from marketing agencies.
Kasim:They're all going after dentists and doctors and lawyers.
Kasim:But what about nail salons or coffee shops or dry cleaners?
Kasim:Nobody's going after 'em.
Kasim:So there's this huge market, and if you were to create.
Kasim:, real phenomenal collateral for them.
Kasim:You'd have a blue ocean niche down into excellence.
Kasim:Get really good at what you're doing, get really good at what you're offering,
Kasim:and if you don't know what to do, The next lesson is the corridor principle.
Kasim:I spent so much time as a young man who wanted to go into business for
Kasim:myself, trying to figure out what I was going to do, trying to figure
Kasim:out what the next move was, trying to figure out what the best idea was.
Kasim:And the problem with that is you're, in the bleachers watching the game.
Kasim:And until you're in the game, you don't know what the play's gonna look like.
Kasim:And the corridor principle says that you are not going to discover
Kasim:the real opportunity until after you've already entered the corridor.
Kasim:if you don't know what to do, by the way, go drive an Uber.
Kasim:I really mean that.
Kasim:I really mean that if you don't know what to do, if you have no
Kasim:idea where to go from a business perspective, go drive an Uber.
Kasim:Uber drivers get to have more conversations with more interesting people
Kasim:every day than I think anybody else.
Kasim:or go work for, whatever, throw dart at a map and go work
Kasim:for wherever that dart hits.
Kasim:go work for a financial consulting firm, or go work at a manufacturing
Kasim:plant to go work at Target, or go work at an Amazon fulfillment center.
Kasim:Here's what's gonna happen.
Kasim:You're in the corridor and all of a sudden you're.
Kasim:Gosh, the way they stock these shelves is really inefficient.
Kasim:Or the way this company's getting their leads is weird, or these
Kasim:guys aren't answering their phone.
Kasim:I wonder if I did a phone answering service for financial consultants
Kasim:specifically if that's something they'd be willing to pay for,
Kasim:especially if I could do the lead intake qualification and scheduling.
Kasim:And they're actually paying to schedule.
Kasim:Hmm.
Kasim:The corridor principal says that you're gonna find all the opportunities
Kasim:after you've entered the corridor, and that's been so true in my life.
Kasim:It's comical.
Kasim:I didn't know that a Google ad agency would be the most successful facet until I
Kasim:was already running a full funnel agency.
Kasim:So give yourself permission to start poorly.
Kasim:Start without a.
Kasim:You know, a fully formed plan.
Kasim:Don't be stupid.
Kasim:But just get out there and start playing.
Kasim:And the odds that the corridor you enter is the corridor you stay in are very low.
Kasim:That's okay.
Kasim:Good.
Kasim:in the very beginning I wanna outsource medical and legal
Kasim:transcription, and somehow that led me to a Google Ads agency.
Kasim:Like, what an evolution.
Kasim:But I had to get out on the field before I was gonna learn that lesson.
Kasim:So get into the corridor and then pay a.
Kasim:and what you'll notice is when you're in the corridor, the
Kasim:opportunities are problems.
Kasim:So when you're in the corridor and you know you're at work or you're doing
Kasim:whatever you're doing and you run into a problem, get excited about the problems,
Kasim:get excited about problems, problems are.
Kasim:The entrepreneur's fuel.
Kasim:That's what brings the opportunity.
Kasim:So when you, encounter problems, train yourself on a gut level, on a physical
Kasim:level, pay attention to your body.
Kasim:By the way, I think it's so important to, really, was talking about
Kasim:earlier, if you get a And not in your stomach when somebody calls you.
Kasim:Like those signs are, that's 2 trillion years of evolution at play.
Kasim:it sounds so like hippy dippy, Sedona magic rock bullshit, but it's not.
Kasim:It's like there's a reason that your body responds to things and it's because
Kasim:we used to be chased by like bears and velociraptors, and we needed to have
Kasim:the instincts in order to handle them.
Kasim:And now we're ignoring those instincts and we shouldn't at all.
Kasim:When you encounter a problem, train yourself, train your mind,
Kasim:and train your body to get.
Kasim:And then this is the most important part.
Kasim:People naturally ignore problems.
Kasim:I don't know why we, all of us, we procrastinate, we put it off, we hide it.
Kasim:We try not to pay attention to it.
Kasim:Train yourself to melt problems.
Kasim:I've learned this from my friend Calvin Corelli.
Kasim:Calvin is the CEO of Sinclair, phenomenal SaaS product.
Kasim:I have three businesses built on the back of Sinclair.
Kasim:It's an unbelievable piece of machinery.
Kasim:And I worked with Calvin for about six months, maybe a
Kasim:little bit longer than that.
Kasim:I've never met a human who tackles problems with a vengeance, with a
Kasim:hatred, but also with an excitement.
Kasim:And what's funny is I would be looking at this problem, and for me it would
Kasim:be this titanium cube that couldn't be opened, cracked dismantled.
Kasim:And then, and Calvin would just sit there and, and I would watch
Kasim:him in real time, just melted.
Kasim:and it would just melt away into, vapor, into, into ether.
Kasim:And it's because he just got obsessive.
Kasim:He didn't know any more about the problem than I did.
Kasim:maybe he's smarter than I am.
Kasim:But all of a sudden he would start to Google it and he'd start to search and
Kasim:he'd call people that had encountered it before and he'd ask em what they did.
Kasim:And, he would just get obsessive with solving these problems.
Kasim:And then once he solved a problem, guess what he has?
Kasim:If he wants it, here's a business.
Kasim:Every problem you solve is a.
Kasim:Every problem you solve is a business.
Kasim:So get excited about solving problems.
Kasim:Next lesson.
Kasim:Don't be the expert, be the guide.
Kasim:I don't run Google ad campaigns.
Kasim:I haven't run an end-to-end Google ad campaign.
Kasim:since before we niche down into Google Ads and I don't pretend to, instead I position
Kasim:myself as the perpetual student and then I present what it is that we're learning.
Kasim:You know, I've got 200 clients and 80 some odd employees inside of Solutions.
Kasim:Eight specifically, and we manage a hundred million dollars in ad spend.
Kasim:And so I have a lot of information and I just present the information
Kasim:distilled through the eyes and the lens of the experts.
Kasim:, your imposter syndrome comes from the fact that you're probably an imposter.
Kasim:And it's so, it's honesty and integrity.
Kasim:that's showing itself.
Kasim:And so all you have to do is be honest and integrous about
Kasim:the way you present yourself.
Kasim:I really love what Brene Brown said.
Kasim:If you haven't read Daring Greatly, by the way, it's unbelievable.
Kasim:But Brene Brown said, I'm a tenured map maker, but amateur traveler,
Kasim:or maybe it's, I'm an expert map maker, but amateur traveler.
Kasim:That's okay.
Kasim:That's okay.
Kasim:So you can be really good at kind of showing people how things are
Kasim:done, but then when you go to do it yourself, you're still learning
Kasim:as long as you present yourself.
Kasim:That way, those people that are super polished and pretend like
Kasim:everything's perfect and they've never failed, like those are the people.
Kasim:Are going to crash and burn, and you kind of actually hope to see it a little bit.
Kasim:But when you show up with authenticity and reality and truth and you're
Kasim:just like, Hey, I kind of figured this thing out, and it's pretty cool.
Kasim:Let me know if you have any questions.
Kasim:I think people really resonate with that.
Kasim:Next lesson, far more specific.
Kasim:Focus on recurring revenue.
Kasim:If you're building a business, it's as hard to sell a thousand
Kasim:dollars one time as it is to sell a thousand dollars a month.
Kasim:And that will always be true.
Kasim:Focus on recurring revenue.
Kasim:That's why you get multiples when you exit.
Kasim:SaaS companies are trading at 50 x 5, 0 50 x ebitda.
Kasim:It's unbelievable.
Kasim:consumable, e-commerce specifically are trading it like, 10, 20, 30
Kasim:x depending on how they're doing.
Kasim:Agencies are now starting to.
Kasim:6, 8, 10, 12, 13 x.
Kasim:For larger agencies, it's because of, of recurring revenue,
Kasim:build recurring revenue models.
Kasim:It doesn't have to be the only thing you do, but make sure there's
Kasim:a recurring revenue component to what you're doing, because I can
Kasim:tell you he's a paid traffic guy.
Kasim:Customer acquisition is the most expensive thing you'll ever do.
Kasim:It's the most expensive thing you'll ever do.
Kasim:It's more expensive than manufacturing.
Kasim:It's more expensive than ideation r and d.
Kasim:Like it's the most expensive thing you'll ever do.
Kasim:In almost every business, in most businesses that we see,
Kasim:customer acquisition is actually more expensive than cost of.
Kasim:Wow.
Kasim:So why wouldn't you put yourself in a position to where you only have
Kasim:to pay that once and then you get the benefit every subsequent time?
Kasim:Focus on recurring revenue.
Kasim:Go find a recurring revenue business and get good at the game of money.
Kasim:I can't tell you how many buddies I have that.
Kasim:, they do really well.
Kasim:I've been in business 17 years now, y'all, I've seen this where I've got buddies
Kasim:are, that are making more than me, but they're spending more than they make or
Kasim:they're spending very close to all of it.
Kasim:And there's this game that you play, especially as a young person, young
Kasim:men and women have to be really careful with this because it's so
Kasim:tempting to want, you want people to know that you're successful.
Kasim:And so you, and you get the Rolex, cuz Rolex had that whole thing
Kasim:about climbing the mountain, right?
Kasim:They had that ad that was brilliant.
Kasim:There was like, you climbed Everest and you want people to.
Kasim:by the Rolex, but there's a saying, my father's from Pakistani, he
Kasim:has all these old folksy Pakistani sayings that, they're kind of
Kasim:funny, but they make a lot of sense.
Kasim:and one of the sayings he has is, if you're gonna have an elephant as a
Kasim:pet, you have to have big doors, right?
Kasim:. And I know that sounds kind of silly, but if you really think about
Kasim:it, there's a lot of wisdom there.
Kasim:If you're gonna have an elephant as a pet, you have to have a big door.
Kasim:Well, if you need big doors, then you have to have high ceilings.
Kasim:And if you have high ceilings, you have to have a big house.
Kasim:And if you have a big house, you have.
Kasim:Plot of land.
Kasim:If you have big plot of land, you have to have a fence.
Kasim:and you go all the way back to this elephant and your man, just
Kasim:don't get the freaking elephant.
Kasim:Right.
Kasim:I had a buddy who hopefully never watches this video and he's got three or four
Kasim:supercars, you know, he's got the Ferrari in the Lamborghini and the Audi a eight.
Kasim:And he came out to dinner with us in San Diego and he spent 45 minutes trying to
Kasim:figure out where to park cuz he didn't wanna park somewhere where his, you know,
Kasim:million dollar car was gonna get dinged.
Kasim:And I'm not wealth shaming, I'm just saying that until you can afford
Kasim:to truly without concern or worry.
Kasim:It's really important that you realize that money is the fuel for
Kasim:your entrepreneurial endeavors.
Kasim:Don't be stupid with it.
Kasim:There are two types of money.
Kasim:This is my rule, and you can make it your rule too if you want.
Kasim:There are two types of money.
Kasim:There's money that your time buys you, and there's money that your money buys.
Kasim:You.
Kasim:There's money that your time buys you, and there's money that your money buys you.
Kasim:And the money for time trade is the most miserable trade you'll
Kasim:ever make in your entire life.
Kasim:And I'm saying this is somebody who's done it for a very, very long time.
Kasim:What you wanna do is the money that your time buys.
Kasim:You can only be used for the absolute bare necessities of life.
Kasim:And then to purchase things that make you more.
Kasim:. So this might be like a rental house or annuities or bonds or whatever it
Kasim:is that you wanna invest in, right?
Kasim:So the money that your time makes you used for the necessities, and I
Kasim:mean the bare necessities by the way.
Kasim:So if you want, the big house on the hill and the luxury
Kasim:car, that's not a necessity.
Kasim:It's a roof over your head, safe place to sleep.
Kasim:if you want your kids go to school, organic food, necessities and then
Kasim:value producing assets, which result.
Kasim:, the money your money buys you.
Kasim:Cuz when you have businesses or assets or real estate, that's yielding money.
Kasim:Now this money, what are you allowed to do without money?
Kasim:Whatever you want.
Kasim:You want a Ferrari, buy a Ferrari, that's great.
Kasim:Buy seven of them, one for every day of the week.
Kasim:Different colors.
Kasim:Doesn't matter.
Kasim:This is money that your money buys you, but you have to get good at
Kasim:the money, the game of money first.
Kasim:And I know that that's not fun, but this is how you accomplish financial freedom.
Kasim:Speaking of don't get romantic about the way you make your.
Kasim:. I'm a Google ads agency right now.
Kasim:I can tell you that Google Ads is marching its way towards four
Kasim:obsolescence at some point in the future.
Kasim:And all that means to me is I'm gonna have to evolve.
Kasim:Now, do I think Google Ads is going away?
Kasim:No, I don't think that at all.
Kasim:I think that the way that we run Google Ads is going to.
Kasim:change, but I was an SEO agency before Google Ads and before seo
Kasim:we were, heavy into software and before, so, you know what I mean?
Kasim:Like, don't get romantic about the way you make your money, because especially
Kasim:in this world, regardless of what industry you're in, it's going to evolve.
Kasim:Blockbuster got real romantic about the way they made
Kasim:their money, loved late fees.
Kasim:Banks got real romantic about the way they made their money.
Kasim:And, and they're being usurped on a number of levels.
Kasim:Don't get romantic about the way you make your money, get romantic about serving
Kasim:the people that you love to serve.
Kasim:And what that will do is it will yield the subsequent opportunities, the direction
Kasim:that you potentially need to go and.
Kasim:That leads me to last lesson, which again is a little
Kasim:touchy-feely, but I don't care.
Kasim:It's love.
Kasim:And I know that's a word that turns everybody off.
Kasim:It's, you know, in our core values at Solutions eight, we have
Kasim:truth, responsibility, and heart.
Kasim:And I said heart because I'm a coward.
Kasim:And I was afraid to put love because it felt like, oh God, we're gonna have
Kasim:to put up with some, with this idiot.
Kasim:But I I don't care as much anymore.
Kasim:. I think love is so important.
Kasim:it's what animates us.
Kasim:you do things because you love them.
Kasim:You play an instrument, you play piano cause you love piano.
Kasim:You play with your kids cuz you love your kids.
Kasim:You seek out your spouse cuz you love your spouse.
Kasim:and when you do things well, you learn to love them.
Kasim:Exercise, for instance, I didn't really like to exercise in the beginning,
Kasim:but I found a way to love it.
Kasim:Julio Giron has a quote that I.
Kasim:And all my hiring, I ask people to tell me what it means to them.
Kasim:And he says it's from the prophet, which is a really worthy read, by the way.
Kasim:But the quotas work is love made visible.
Kasim:Find a way to instill love in everything that you do.
Kasim:And if you can't, you're doing the wrong thing.
Kasim:and I'm not saying this as, judge, I'm telling you, this is somebody
Kasim:who's been a victim of my own designs.
Kasim:I have done things in the past that made a ton of money that I didn't.
Kasim:I've had endeavors and entrepreneurial pursuits that did very well, but
Kasim:they lacked the love component and they were at best neutral, but at
Kasim:worst, very often soul sucking.
Kasim:spending time with people that I don't like in rooms that I don't
Kasim:like doing things that I don't like, and who cares how much money
Kasim:you're making if you don't love it?
Kasim:Find a way to love what you do.
Kasim:Find a way to love the people you do it for.
Kasim:Find a way to love the people you do it with.
Kasim:Find people that you love to be around, like make.
Kasim:essential theme.
Kasim:Make it primary, make it foundational.
Kasim:and then you can go after things like, financial success and growth and scale.
Kasim:But it's okay to stop and say, you know what?
Kasim:I really wanna love this.
Kasim:I really wanna love my days.
Kasim:For so often, I was just, I would torture myself, truly torture myself.
Kasim:By forcing myself to do things that I didn't want to do cause
Kasim:I wanted to be successful.
Kasim:You, I wake up at four o'clock in the morning and I run through this
Kasim:insane laundry list of habits, which actually, you know what's really
Kasim:funny is I love waking up early.
Kasim:Now I love waking up early, but I didn't used to because the things
Kasim:that I made myself do, I didn't love them and I was doing 'em just because
Kasim:I just wanted to be wealthy and.
Kasim:, it cost me, and it actually cost me more than it earned me because there is you'll,
Kasim:I mean, you'll have to wake up at four o'clock in the morning, work hard 12 hours
Kasim:a day every day for your entire life.
Kasim:You'll be successful for sure, but you'll be successful at a cost.
Kasim:And it wasn't until I started integrating love into my daily themes
Kasim:that the success I experienced.
Kasim:. It wasn't just sweeter, it was actually more scalable cuz it
Kasim:didn't fall off every time.
Kasim:if the minute, if you're doing something you don't love, the
Kasim:minute you lose motivation, you lose the ability to do that thing and
Kasim:you lose motivation all the time.
Kasim:Motivation is the most fickle master of any.
Kasim:So find something that you love and focus on that.
Kasim:And if you can't find, the thing you love to do, and this is my experience
Kasim:generally especially, is when you're younger, it's hard to find the thing
Kasim:you love to do because you're afraid.
Kasim:. You ask a kid, what do you wanna be when you grow up?
Kasim:And they have all these dreams and all of 'em are funny, right?
Kasim:It's always like, oh, I wanna be an astronaut or a zookeeper.
Kasim:And that's great.
Kasim:but then as, people get a little bit older, Post pubescent, they
Kasim:stop answering that question because they get fearful.
Kasim:I used to, I didn't wanna put myself in a box.
Kasim:It's like, ah, I don't wanna commit just yet.
Kasim:So if you don't wanna commit to the service, that's fine.
Kasim:Commit to a group of people.
Kasim:Who do you love as people?
Kasim:maybe you love athletes or you love, stay-at-home moms, or you
Kasim:love Montessori schools, or you love people that are struggling.
Kasim:Autism or who do you love?
Kasim:And then find a way to serve them, but build love into your life.
Kasim:Make it an ever-present, ongoing recurring theme and surround yourself
Kasim:with people that you can love.
Kasim:And that's really weird too.
Kasim:You know, I don't tell my employees this often cause I don't want to get sued.
Kasim:But God do I love these people.
Kasim:Most of them, there's a couple that annoy me.
Kasim:Hopefully they don't watch this.
Kasim:They know who they are.
Kasim:You know, I have nearly a hundred employees now, and it's just every
Kasim:time I'm on the phone with one of 'em, every time I learn a little
Kasim:bit more about what they're doing.
Kasim:I was on the phone with a young man who's, he's making a movie, and it was
Kasim:just so much fun to see him light up.
Kasim:I'd done some film in the past and so he asked me to connect just for some advice,
Kasim:and I didn't give him any good advice.
Kasim:I didn't help him at all, but it was really fun for me to watch him.
Kasim:do this thing that he really cared about.
Kasim:it made our interaction on every other level.
Kasim:Whenever they happen, it makes them more real.
Kasim:Cause now I know you I know the things that you care about.
Kasim:So find a way to surround yourself with people that you love.
Kasim:find a way to, serve people that you love.
Kasim:Find a way to do things that you love.
Kasim:and they don't have to be sexy.
Kasim:. You know what I mean?
Kasim:Like, yeah, everybody wants to be an actor or everybody wants to paint,
Kasim:or everybody wants to work with music or everybody wants to help kids.
Kasim:Nobody wants to empty the garbage.
Kasim:Nobody wants to clean out the gutters.
Kasim:Nobody wants to, fix septic tanks.
Kasim:But you can find love there.
Kasim:You can find there's love in the septic tank.
Kasim:You know what I mean?
Kasim:Like, if you're an emergency plumber, whatever it is, there's
Kasim:so many ways for you to find.
Kasim:The love that exists within the confines of what you do because of the value
Kasim:you're providing to other people.
Kasim:So find a way to embed love into your life and and then I think
Kasim:success really becomes inevitable.
Kasim:Then it's just a matter of time because it's infectious.
Kasim:People know, they can tell this went way longer than I thought it was.
Kasim:I wanted to get one of these a minute.
Kasim:I thought this was gonna be a 17 minute video.
Kasim:I hope this is helpful.
Kasim:I'd love to.
Kasim:What you've learned on your journey through life and through business.
Kasim:I gave you my 17 over 17 years.
Kasim:What are the fun lessons that you have to offer me?
Kasim:We can start a dialogue in the comments.
Kasim:Other than that, I'll see you all tomorrow.