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The conversation explores the challenges and loneliness that men face in society. It discusses the importance of men in traditional gender roles and the impact of divorce and co-parenting on fatherhood. The conversation also delves into the push to weaken masculinity and the need to embrace and support men. It emphasizes the importance of balance and acceptance in society and the need to understand our place in nature. The conversation explores the importance of strong men in society and the need for men to embrace traditional masculinity. It emphasizes the role of men in relationships and the attraction to masculine traits.

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[Robb]: And welcome to another show. Don't get

this twisted. I am Rob along with my co-host

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[Robb]: as always Tina. How you doing Tina?

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: I'm good, Rob, how are

you?

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[Robb]: Oh, absolutely pleasant. It's warm today.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: It is for the first time

in a long time.

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[Robb]: It's gonna be, I think it's pretty yucky

outside. It's only

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah,

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[Robb]: 77

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: it's gonna give it

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[Robb]: now.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: to us.

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[Robb]: It's supposed to be like 85 today. Only

for a day though. Only for today and it's supposed

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[Robb]: to cool down tomorrow, so who knows.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: That's good. I have a lot

of people coming over for Father's Day. And

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: by

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[Robb]: Yeah.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: the way, Happy Father's

Day. We

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[Robb]: Yes,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: got Father's Day going

on.

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[Robb]: that's correct. I forgot

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: It'll

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[Robb]: about

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: be

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[Robb]: that.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: after, well, it'll be over

by the time we air

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[Robb]: Yes.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: this. But to all you fathers

that are listening, Happy Father's Day.

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[Robb]: Correct,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Thank

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[Robb]: that's

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: you

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[Robb]: right.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: for doing what you do.

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[Robb]: Thanks for being dads, because being

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.

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[Robb]: a dad sometimes isn't easy.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: And I say thank you for

doing what you do because there's so many things

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: to try to name them just

wouldn't be right. So,

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[Robb]: And

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: yeah.

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[Robb]: we can actually kind of throw that into

the discussion today of how hard it is to be

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[Robb]: a man sometimes, because I

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.

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[Robb]: think that's, I sent you a video of

a trans man, so someone who used to be a woman

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[Robb]: who transitioned and did like a TikTok

or some kind of shit like that where they talked

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[Robb]: about how hard it is to be a man.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.

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[Robb]: So I thought we would

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: You know.

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[Robb]: play that.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Go

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[Robb]: Mm hmm.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: ahead.

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[Robb]: Should we play

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: I

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[Robb]: it

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: was

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[Robb]: first?

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: gonna say,

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[Robb]: OK,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: yeah, go ahead.

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[Robb]: all right here, let's play this real

quick. Nobody told me how lonely. Being a man

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[Robb]: is at closer friendships with random

women, I met in the bathroom before I transitioned

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[Robb]: at clubs because of how open women are

than I've had. in my eight years of transitioning

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[Robb]: because women are just so much more

vulnerable and deep than men. But to have known,

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[Robb]: and I think a lot of trans men feel

this, is we knew what depth felt like before

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[Robb]: we transitioned. We knew what it felt

like to have people want to hug us and to have

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[Robb]: people want to talk to us. and have

a community and then you transition and you're

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[Robb]: just a guy walking down the street that

people cross the street so that they're not

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[Robb]: me or you. And friendships are so much

harder to build. And people are colder. What's

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[Robb]: hard is none of this invalidates how

real and raw women and people who are in marginalized

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[Robb]: groups feel about cis white men. All

of that's valid. But I also now understand

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[Robb]: why the suicide rate is so much higher

in men. Cause this shit is lonely. Nobody told

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[Robb]: me how lonely being a man is. I had

closer friendships with random women

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: We

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[Robb]: I

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: got

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[Robb]: met.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: it going

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[Robb]: This

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: on a second

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[Robb]: is a headline

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: time.

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[Robb]: from- So obviously, um, someone who

lived as a woman for so long. and then transitioned

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[Robb]: to be a man, now lives in the world

of the reality of being a man. It kind of hit

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[Robb]: me hard when he was talking about how

easy it is to have relationships between girls,

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[Robb]: and I think that that's probably very

true, where he talked about saying, oh. you

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[Robb]: know, I could get a hug or I could do

this, because I think female relationships

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[Robb]: are like that. They're way closer than

men, where it's just not the normal that men

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[Robb]: have that kind of relationship. And

we do, I think most men generally handle things

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[Robb]: alone.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.

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[Robb]: They don't go to their friends and lean

on them for... the same

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: anything

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[Robb]: as women do.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: right

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[Robb]: I think that they will, but like I'll

lean on some people, but I generally hold it

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[Robb]: in, or there's a very small select group

of people that I'll bounce things off of that

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[Robb]: are men. I have, and I'll say that with

females as well, there's a very small group

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[Robb]: either way, but I definitely think men

hold things in. wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: You know, I didn't realize

that growing up and I grew up with a bunch

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: of really solid men, but

now that I've gotten older and in dealing with

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: people on a, on a deeper

level, I would say, um, I'm noticing that like

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: I didn't, when I was growing

up, it was understood that a man was supposed

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: to make the money and the

women were pretty much supposed to take care

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: of the kids. Right. But

I didn't realize in, in being the one to take

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: in the money, you're not

seeing your kids, you're not seeing your wife,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: you're not getting the

joy out of raising your children because you're

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: busy working to support

them. It never really dawned on me how that

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: would have felt. You know,

even when my dad has said things or my brother

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: said things, I was like,

I never even looked at it that way because

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: the way we were presented

things was so this and that, you know, it wasn't

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: up for... for a thought

even, plus not being a man, I had no idea.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: But seeing now that I having

friendships with men that work a lot and they

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: don't get to see their

family, they don't get to be there for important

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: things, like I really feel

for them now because all that effort doesn't

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: get them any further in

life with subjects to the heart, but they still

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: have to do what they have

to do and they're expected to. And that's just

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: my own view on how it was

supposed to be, or my views with it, you know,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: what I was raised with.

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[Robb]: Yeah, I think we both were raised with

the same thing.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Ahem.

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[Robb]: Because our dads are of that age period,

right? They're coming out of World War II dads,

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[Robb]: right?

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: in Vietnam.

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[Robb]: So, well, Vietnam for them, but they're

coming out of World War II fathers, their fathers,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Gotcha, gotcha.

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[Robb]: right? So they're coming from that very

much mom stayed at home and raised the kids

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[Robb]: and dad. did whatever it took to take

care of the family.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yes.

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[Robb]: Like my grandfather lived in Tennessee,

but hitchhiked across the country to Detroit

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[Robb]: to work in car factories so he could

send money back to Tennessee so he could raise

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[Robb]: his family. To the point where like

my grandfather slept in cemeteries. So he didn't

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[Robb]: have to spend any

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Wow.

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[Robb]: money on a hotel room. So crazy, totally

different generation. But I think now men are

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[Robb]: still held to that high regard, right?

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Absolutely.

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[Robb]: And we've talked about it before where

they have independent women. Like I'm going

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[Robb]: to go work and I'm going to do this,

but you're still up on this level of you need

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[Robb]: to do this, and this. So we're.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: With women's lib though,

they made men completely wrong and women completely

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: right. And men were the

ones that inflicted all this on them. and so

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: they had to fight against

men. And in doing so, it's tilted the level

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: on the other end. Like

men, if they're back on their child support,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: can't leave the country

because their passports get taken away and

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: their licenses get taken

away. And if that's not enough, if they can't

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: drive and they're already

stuck in a hole because they're not working

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: or whatever's going on

that they can't, and then you add All of that

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: impounding a car for 30

days. Like that's what they do. That's what

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: they do. If you don't have

your bill paid up. And it, the all or nothing,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: the black or white way

of thinking for any one group. is ridiculous

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: because there's always

exceptions to the rule. There's always times

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: when things just, he, you

know, he may really be trying, but he's got

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: some bad luck going on.

Why is that not taken into consideration? I

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: think, I think men are

not the problem now. I kind of think it's women

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: because women feel like

they could victimize a man now and we're not

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: getting to the heart of

the matter, which is we need to start being

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: kind to everybody. Everybody

needs to have a level playing field.

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[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: And I think that in that

men, men should be, they should be nurtured

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: enough by women that they

feel that they could be open with somebody.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: And we're going through

this generation where guys don't feel that

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: way. And it's scary. It's

scary.

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[Robb]: For sure.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Because men are our strength.

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[Robb]: I mean, they should be, that should

be the provider protector. Those are the things

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[Robb]: that men thrive on

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: even physically

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[Robb]: in a society.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: it's who they are.

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[Robb]: Right, but in a more, in society, since

the dawn of time, we've had these positions

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[Robb]: where

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm

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[Robb]: men, we are, we're provider protectors,

we're hunters, we're gatherers, that's what

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[Robb]: we do. And as we've gotten... you know,

technology and these things, we've switched

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[Robb]: those things, but there still should

be a blueprint for that. Like, there's nothing

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[Robb]: wrong with men taking care of their

children. I'm a single dad.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-mm.

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[Robb]: I had him since he was six. I took care

of him. That's, it's not that it can't be done,

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[Robb]: but the social

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: No, but

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[Robb]: norm.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: that it's lonely being

done,

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[Robb]: Oh no

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: I think

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[Robb]: it

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: is

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[Robb]: is!

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: more of the more of the

part I didn't see, you know, because my mom

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: was always the one to show

up to the school things. My dad just heard

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: about them. But

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[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: now that my mom's gone,

and my brother and I are telling my dad stories

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: about what went on, he's

like, I had no idea. Here I was raising you

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: guys and had no freaking

clue all of these things were going on.

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[Robb]: Right. Well, and just imagine if I was

the other side of that equation where I didn't

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[Robb]: have

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Right?

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[Robb]: my kid all the time, I couldn't imagine

not having my kid. So dads that are out there

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[Robb]: who unfortunately get the deadbeat tag

that are trying, they want to see their kid.

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[Robb]: They're They're limited by every other

weekend, or they're limited by an angry ex

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[Robb]: who now is putting the thumbscrews to

them because they can't pay the absurd amount

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[Robb]: that the courts

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yes.

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[Robb]: have thrown their way. Where instead

of just saying, look, let me see what I can

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[Robb]: do and we should be able to help each

other. If you're a single mom, and again, I'm

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[Robb]: jaded, take care of your kid, it's your

job.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm. Yep, I agree with

that.

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[Robb]: Whether he's there or not, doesn't matter.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: You had them, it's your

job to make sure you provide.

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[Robb]: Correct.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Period.

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[Robb]: And I took mine and I've said it a million

times on here. I got no child support, zero.

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[Robb]: And we made an agreement for that. And

I'm okay with it. My job was to take care of

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[Robb]: my kid. That's

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

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[Robb]: period. And when I needed something,

I didn't have to argue with my ex. Now, if

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[Robb]: you're a deadbeat dad and you don't

wanna give money for shoes, then you're just

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[Robb]: a fucking idiot. And

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

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[Robb]: you deserve what comes to you. But if

you're there and you're trying and you want

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[Robb]: to see your child, stop using them as

a pawn. It's nonsense because it's just damaging

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[Robb]: men. We're just doing more and more

to them to make them not want to do anything.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah, because if you're

damned if you do and you're damned if you

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[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: don't, you might as well

take the path of least resist, you know,

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[Robb]: Exactly.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: resistance.

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[Robb]: That's

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Why would

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[Robb]: exactly

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: you want

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[Robb]: it.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: to get all caught up in,

in somebody's bullshit and telling you you're,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: you're wrong all the time?

I, you know, so since I've, since I've been

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: single and having friends

that are single and I could go out more than,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: than normal, um, talking

to men and hearing like their stories and,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: um, the scene how they

struggle never really thought about all these

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: things that are coming

up we were we were basically raised when women's

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: lib was kickin ass you

know what i mean and men deserved it because

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: they were really at the

time taking advantage of shit and not you know

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: not doing what they needed

to do to take care of the responsibilities

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: i get why it started But

at some point, what we need to expect from

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: everybody is that they

do right by their children and each other and

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: themselves by working as

a team, the one that they were easily putting

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: together to have the baby,

they should be able to easily work on every

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: day to make sure that everything

is supported. Not just, well, I did my part.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: No, that's not. 50 rule

in a relationship. It doesn't exist. You know,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: it's like nobody just has

to do 50%. That's not the way it rolls. So

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: but what I'm seeing now

is how unfair it is to men, how life in general

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: is and then you throw on

the loneliness like I never thought about that.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: But you're right because

girls go into the bathroom and they talk I

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: hate going into a public

bathroom because I don't want to talk to anybody.

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[Robb]: Right.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: But But when a man, and

this is what I understand from my ex, when

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: a man goes in to go to

the bathroom, they skip at least one urinal.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: They try to go completely

as far away from the next guy as possible.

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[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Well, I get why, but I

also understand, yeah, there is a smaller community

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: for them to be able to

reach out to.

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[Robb]: Yeah,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: And that,

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[Robb]: there's no small talk in a men's

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: yeah.

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[Robb]: bathroom. I mean, maybe at a club,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: All the

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[Robb]: maybe.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: things we're saying makes

it sound dirty. There's

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[Robb]: Right,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: no

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[Robb]: but

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: small talk.

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[Robb]: yeah, exactly. I mean, I can probably

see it at a club, but they're usually probably

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[Robb]: just talking about women. Right? I could

see, and again, call me wrong, because I'm

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[Robb]: not positive. I've never hung out in

a women's bathroom in a club, but I'm guessing

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[Robb]: that if someone's having a bad night,

walks into the bathroom and starts crying,

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[Robb]: there's a community there to find out

what's wrong.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Somebody will. I'll try

to sneak out but... Heheheheh Mm-hmm

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[Robb]: No, but in general, if a dude walks

into a men's bathroom and starts crying, people

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[Robb]: are letting him sit on the floor and

cry. I

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

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[Robb]: guarantee it. They don't want none of

that shit. It's not their business. They skip

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[Robb]: town. Now, that's bad from a man's standpoint.

I think there should be more of a community

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[Robb]: of men saying, hey, like, get your chin

up. You know, what's wrong?

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: see men say suck it up

even to each other.

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[Robb]: Well, yes. No,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Like

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[Robb]: I

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: when

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[Robb]: agree.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: you say chin up, that means

suck it up, you know, and

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: As much as I think as a

society women need to take a lot of the responsibility

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: for men feeling so lonely

and everything. So do men. Like you got to

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: support, women support

each other so men should say, you know,

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[Robb]: But

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: something.

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[Robb]: I just think that it's built into our

DNA. This is thousands of years. This isn't,

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[Robb]: like, people think that it's a small

sliver of what we are. We're talking four,

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[Robb]: 5,000 years of DNA of men having to

do whatever it took to make sure that the family

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[Robb]: survived. And I'm talking

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Get

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[Robb]: like

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: that.

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[Robb]: way back.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

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[Robb]: But even now. Like to me, you have to

look at the reality of what's going on. I'm,

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[Robb]: I hate to say that I'm lonely, but I

am lonely because now I have a man that lives

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[Robb]: in the house who's, stays in his room

all the time and rarely chats with me and really

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[Robb]: doesn't talk to me about life. Almost

nothing.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

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[Robb]: Because

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: And you're a talker, so

it's gotta be lonely.

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[Robb]: Yeah,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: I'm

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[Robb]: so

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: like

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[Robb]: f-

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: that with my niece and

nephew. They're not big talkers. And I force

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: it out of them. I literally

say, so I'm sitting here for the next hour

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: with my niece and nephew.

Whether we interact will be on them. But if

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: they put their phones down,

there may be a 20 in it for them. Like I do

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: stuff like that as I'm

sitting with them to get their attention.

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[Robb]: Right.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: They don't make me pay

them. Which is cool.

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[Robb]: I just think that, like my son talks.

I just think that he's, you know, he's his

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[Robb]: own person now, which separates things.

And I don't have a significant other, so I

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[Robb]: am lonely. But I try to fill my time

with whatever I can to keep my mind from going

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[Robb]: down roads they shouldn't. Because

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Right,

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[Robb]: you know,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: right.

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[Robb]: what do they say? The idle time is the

devil's something or other?

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Tools?

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[Robb]: You know, it's like...

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: No, what is it? I thought

it was idle hands.

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[Robb]: No, it's idle time is the devil something.

But

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: I don't know.

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[Robb]: I just think that we have to get to

a point where we stop looking at men like that.

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[Robb]: And I don't know how it's gonna happen

because society now wants to weaken the modern

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[Robb]: man. They almost pushing us out of whatever

it took because women can now do everything.

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[Robb]: Right? Like, and I had a small argument

with somebody about like that one time. They

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[Robb]: were like, you know, we don't need men.

And I was like, cool, who's going to build

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[Robb]: your roads? Who's going to go fix the

electrical wires? Who's going to go, you know,

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[Robb]: jump in the piles of shit when your

plumbing doesn't work? It's not women. And

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[Robb]: and people will say, well, women do

those jobs. It's a minute, very, very small

347

[Robb]: fraction. And we're talking almost none.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: They don't do enough that

it would take to make everybody's plumbing

349

[Tina Marie Garcia]: work in a given day.

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[Robb]: Mm-hmm, yes. So, oh, here it is, idle

time is the devil's playground, which makes

351

[Robb]: sense because when you have tons of

time to think about things, you start thinking

352

[Robb]: bad thoughts. That's what that should

go for. I just think that we need to get back

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[Robb]: to a point where it's like, look, we

need men. We need women. We're equally as important

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[Robb]: in. functioning societies.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: We're the balance.

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[Robb]: The yin

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Both

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[Robb]: and yang.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: together are the balance,

yes.

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[Robb]: Yeah, it's a yin and yang,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

362

[Robb]: it is. Like I told you the one time,

like look, if you live alone and you're a female,

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[Robb]: you have no choice but to defend yourself.

So if there's a racket in the middle of the

364

[Robb]: night, it's up to you to check on it.

But in a relationship, The man should be the

365

[Robb]: one going because he's supposed to be

the protector of the family. That's his job

366

[Robb]: to make sure his kids and his wife or

girlfriend are taken care of. It's that thing

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[Robb]: where I heard a Steve Harvey...

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[Robb]: bit today, I was listening to a podcast,

and he does a bit where he talks about his

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[Robb]: wife and that he was with her as a young

man, and then they didn't see each other for

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[Robb]: like 20 years, and then they got back

together and got married. And he looks at her

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[Robb]: and he goes, I will kill everyone in

this arena for you.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

373

[Robb]: And that's the reality. It's like, it

doesn't matter. Like, before something happens

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[Robb]: to you, everyone in here's dying. I'm

dying to make sure you make it, you know, out

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[Robb]: of that. So men are being looked at

now as throwaways, like we don't need them.

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[Robb]: And truly you do, because in a functioning

society of birthing people, you have to have

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[Robb]: a man and you have to have a woman,

regardless of what the media likes to tell

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[Robb]: you that you can be either. It's nonsense.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

380

[Robb]: We...

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: No, it's true.

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[Robb]: Biology will trump you every time.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

384

[Robb]: So you look at someone who used to be

a woman in that clip we played, who now has

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[Robb]: the hard reality of what it's like to

be a man every single day. It's not easy, and

386

[Robb]: we're getting bashed more and more to

where we don't want to be in relationships.

387

[Robb]: We've talked about that on another podcast

where it's getting harder and

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: And

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[Robb]: harder

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: God

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[Robb]: to

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: forbid

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[Robb]: even want to get in

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: you

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[Robb]: it.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: just be heterosexual, white,

and educated. God forbid.

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[Robb]: Yeah.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Like what is going on where

doing what we were taught was right to do,

399

[Tina Marie Garcia]: which was go to school,

get educated, you know, try to try to fit the

400

[Tina Marie Garcia]: mold, do your job and everything.

Since when did that become a bad thing?

401

[Robb]: when the modern media and some agenda

push that forward. Like when that dude used

402

[Robb]: the word sis, I hate that fucking term.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: What does CIS even mean?

404

[Robb]: It's the other, it's their way of saying

straight people. Which

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: They could

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[Robb]: which

407

[Tina Marie Garcia]: just say

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[Robb]: I

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: straight, because then

we wouldn't have to Google all this shit

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[Robb]: Well,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: up.

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[Robb]: I and again, I get shit and i'll probably

get shit from friends that I know that hear

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[Robb]: this It means to me. It means normal

Because

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.

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[Robb]: that's

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: When you

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[Robb]: the

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: said

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[Robb]: societal

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: normal, that kind of, that

kind of stuck a, kind of stuck a nerve with

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: me. Cause what really is

normal? It

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[Robb]: It's...

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: depends on when you grew

up and what your

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[Robb]: Hmm.

425

[Tina Marie Garcia]: bar was set for you. That's,

that's how I see it. Cause normal for me, isn't

426

[Tina Marie Garcia]: normal for you.

427

[Robb]: No, but the societal normal. We're talking

about the mass majority of what human beings

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[Robb]: think. That's the

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: I don't

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[Robb]: societal

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: know that that's

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[Robb]: normal.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: really normal when you

turn on. I can't go. I don't watch TV, but

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: if I'm with my dad and

my cousin and I'm out there, all I of course

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: I'm watching it

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[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

437

[Tina Marie Garcia]: and every commercial has

two men kissing.

438

[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

439

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Every commercial has, um,

a black parent and a white parent. Every, every

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: show has something on it.

And to me personally, I don't care, but I'm

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: cool to not see anybody

kissing on a normal. on a normal nighttime

442

[Tina Marie Garcia]: show, you know, like we're

not talking, we're talking on local media,

443

[Tina Marie Garcia]: we're not talking on cable

television, we're talking normal network TV.

444

[Tina Marie Garcia]: And I'm sitting with my

niece and my nephew. I don't want to watch

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: that around them.

446

[Robb]: Right.

447

[Tina Marie Garcia]: You know, I it's uncomfortable

for me. And I know that they if it goes on

448

[Tina Marie Garcia]: in their world, cool, they're

okay with it, but it didn't go on in my world

449

[Tina Marie Garcia]: like that. And I'm not

okay with it. Not that I think that we need

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: to hide who we are. I'm

not saying that I'm just saying does it have

451

[Tina Marie Garcia]: to be so in our face?

452

[Robb]: Well, like I said, people hate when,

because I use the word normal all the time,

453

[Robb]: because it's a societal, I don't care,

because that's the reality of the world. And

454

[Robb]: I'm talking about every continent on

this planet.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.

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[Robb]: If you think I'm wrong, look at continents

other than Western societies. So no Australia,

457

[Robb]: no England, no America. Go to Africa.

and talk about and say, sis, they'll be like,

458

[Robb]: you mean everyone else, because everyone

else is the other part of the equation. It's

459

[Robb]: the smaller bit. So, and again, I'm

not throwing shade or trying to be a dick or

460

[Robb]: trying to be mean, but normal society,

and I'm talking about every regular normal

461

[Robb]: society on this planet thinks that way.

there are always gonna be outliers, and that's

462

[Robb]: okay. And I'm not saying that we shouldn't

have those. There should be diversity, because

463

[Robb]: there really is diversity in the world.

But to put someone who's gay on every show,

464

[Robb]: it's not realistic. Because if you're

4% of the country, you're really not 4% of

465

[Robb]: everything.

466

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

467

[Robb]: But now it's being pushed that, again,

we're pushing the normal white male out of

468

[Robb]: everything.

469

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

470

[Robb]: And that's, I think, going to be a huge

problem long haul. Because it's not realistic.

471

[Tina Marie Garcia]: He already is.

472

[Robb]: It's just not realistic. And

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

474

[Robb]: here's the other part, though. Like,

we've, being a man, look at how men are treated

475

[Robb]: in other cultures. So go down the line

of, let's say, white, Asian, Hispanic, black.

476

[Robb]: And if we want to go with, statistically

speaking, you know, white males are probably

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[Robb]: in their children's lives 50% because

divorce rate.

478

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

479

[Robb]: Hispanics stay and stay because they

don't get divorced very often. And they're

480

[Robb]: generally more family oriented.

481

[Robb]: Asians probably the same way. And blacks,

you look at statistically speaking, about 68%

482

[Robb]: of black households have no father in

them.

483

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

484

[Robb]: So why, why are we pushing these men

away from their children? It's bad.

485

[Tina Marie Garcia]: I don't know.

486

[Robb]: And we did that show on what happens

when there's not a father in the home. Well,

487

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

488

[Robb]: let him be part of the damn kid's life.

You know,

489

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.

490

[Robb]: I saw a video, I wanna say on Instagram,

where it was a black guy, and he was talking

491

[Robb]: about how it was when he was a kid,

and he was probably our age. And he goes, now

492

[Robb]: the older men, let's say 28 year old

men, don't say anything to these young kids

493

[Robb]: anymore in the streets. He goes, when

I was a kid, the men in the town would whoop

494

[Robb]: your ass and then take you back home

to your mom and mom would go, glad you whooped

495

[Robb]: his ass. Cause we had, we... put men

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: We did not

497

[Robb]: or

498

[Tina Marie Garcia]: have

499

[Robb]: fathers

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: the culture

501

[Robb]: on that level.

502

[Tina Marie Garcia]: of victims though. We didn't

503

[Robb]: Correct.

504

[Tina Marie Garcia]: have a culture where everybody

was a victim. Like if you, if my mom heard

505

[Tina Marie Garcia]: that somebody, another

parent had to say something to me.

506

[Robb]: Mm-hmm. Pfft.

507

[Tina Marie Garcia]: I was going to get it.

She wouldn't have wanted anybody to put her

508

[Tina Marie Garcia]: hands on me. She would

have saved that for herself. But if somebody

509

[Tina Marie Garcia]: had to reprimand me and

she caught wind of it, my ass was in trouble,

510

[Tina Marie Garcia]: like

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[Robb]: Oh yeah,

512

[Tina Marie Garcia]: period.

513

[Robb]: me too.

514

[Tina Marie Garcia]: And then, and then hope

to God she didn't say anything to dad, because

515

[Tina Marie Garcia]: then I'd have to hear about

it all over again.

516

[Robb]: Yeah,

517

[Tina Marie Garcia]: And by

518

[Robb]: or get

519

[Tina Marie Garcia]: that

520

[Robb]: another

521

[Tina Marie Garcia]: time I'm

522

[Robb]: weapon.

523

[Tina Marie Garcia]: like, forget it. No, I

normally just got one. But

524

[Robb]: Oh,

525

[Tina Marie Garcia]: I

526

[Robb]: okay.

527

[Tina Marie Garcia]: got

528

[Robb]: That's good.

529

[Tina Marie Garcia]: one. That's the point.

530

[Robb]: Yeah, oh no, me too.

531

[Tina Marie Garcia]: little bitch kids that

say that's abuse that's abuse no you need to

532

[Tina Marie Garcia]: get your ass whipped once

in a while

533

[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

534

[Tina Marie Garcia]: so it'll keep you honest

I'm sorry I just agree with that and if you

535

[Tina Marie Garcia]: don't agree I don't care

like

536

[Robb]: Well,

537

[Tina Marie Garcia]: I

538

[Robb]: and

539

[Tina Marie Garcia]: see what this world's coming

to where kids don't have any sort of consequences

540

[Tina Marie Garcia]: for their actions that's

not fair that's not fair to them either

541

[Robb]: And I think boys more, because look,

you have all these single mothers of men. Who's

542

[Robb]: going to tell them no? Mom? Who's now,

you know, let's say five foot four, and their

543

[Robb]: child is six foot two and 300 pounds.

544

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

545

[Robb]: How are you going to tell your kid he's

not going out tonight, because he wants to

546

[Robb]: go gallivanting through the city?

547

[Tina Marie Garcia]: You know, when I was growing

up, they brought them to my house because my

548

[Tina Marie Garcia]: mom was wild and my dad

was just, you're not going to fuck up, right?

549

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Like, this is how it's

going to be. But we don't even have community

550

[Tina Marie Garcia]: anymore as a society for

people to even get the help for all these single

551

[Tina Marie Garcia]: mothers to have any sort

of support.

552

[Robb]: Right. But we had, back in the day,

like I'm saying, men, for one, men stayed with

553

[Robb]: their children, or they had a better

way of fixing that, where, you know, there

554

[Robb]: was still co-parenting. And it probably

died with our parents.

555

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah, well,

556

[Robb]: Right?

557

[Tina Marie Garcia]: it stopped when women started

taking away everybody's rights as men, too.

558

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Instead of coming to a

happy medium, it became that this guy's the

559

[Tina Marie Garcia]: perpetrator, let's take

everything we can from him. I think that's

560

[Tina Marie Garcia]: when it started to change,

because before that men could be more around

561

[Tina Marie Garcia]: their kids. And they weren't

so damn resentful trying to be around them

562

[Tina Marie Garcia]: either. You know,

563

[Robb]: Yeah.

564

[Tina Marie Garcia]: it wasn't so freaking frustrating

for them. Because

565

[Robb]: It's gotta

566

[Tina Marie Garcia]: it...

567

[Robb]: be crazy like how bad women would bury

the father. You know,

568

[Tina Marie Garcia]: pan.

569

[Robb]: see like I, and I can say it and the

people who know around me and you could even

570

[Robb]: ask my kid, I never said anything bad

about his mom because there's

571

[Tina Marie Garcia]: I was

572

[Robb]: no

573

[Tina Marie Garcia]: there,

574

[Robb]: reason to.

575

[Tina Marie Garcia]: I know,

576

[Robb]: There

577

[Tina Marie Garcia]: right?

578

[Robb]: was no reason to bury her, whether I

was mad at her or not and thankfully there

579

[Robb]: wasn't a lot of real resentment anyway

but

580

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

581

[Robb]: it wasn't gonna solve any problems.

You're just You're making someone the enemy.

582

[Robb]: And I think men, women who are bitter

for whatever reason, bury dad, so now dad is

583

[Robb]: always gonna be the enemy. And you're

just making a resentful, lonely, pissed off

584

[Robb]: man in a house alone.

585

[Tina Marie Garcia]: And you're making a bunch

of pissed off kids.

586

[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

587

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Because they're wondering

why their dad doesn't love them. They're wondering

588

[Tina Marie Garcia]: why nobody is there when

they need them. They're wondering why they

589

[Tina Marie Garcia]: weren't good enough for

their parents to make it work. They've got

590

[Tina Marie Garcia]: their own set of hangups.

591

[Robb]: What do you think is a way that we could

fix this situation? And again, I'm throwing

592

[Robb]: that out on a very long limb because

I think that there's tons that we can do.

593

[Tina Marie Garcia]: I thought about that. And

me as a person, being the talker that I am

594

[Tina Marie Garcia]: and the one that will just

go up and hug anybody and the one that like

595

[Tina Marie Garcia]: will strike up a conversation,

I need to... Maybe be more thoughtful in my

596

[Tina Marie Garcia]: actions on a day to day

and if I see something I should say something

597

[Tina Marie Garcia]: or just open up and say

hey, how's it going? If I catch somebody's

598

[Tina Marie Garcia]: eye or and not to flirt

not to be you know doing anything, but just

599

[Tina Marie Garcia]: to like a be more willing

to be open I really do have good conversations

600

[Tina Marie Garcia]: with my male friends. I

really ask them questions they don't want to

601

[Tina Marie Garcia]: answer. I like having that

sort of relationship with them. So I think

602

[Tina Marie Garcia]: in that respect with my

friends, they know that they should and they

603

[Tina Marie Garcia]: would absolutely be supported

if they needed anything, they should call me.

604

[Tina Marie Garcia]: They know that. I know

they know that, right? You know that, right?

605

[Robb]: Of course. Well, for

606

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Okay.

607

[Robb]: me? You're not really asking me that,

are

608

[Tina Marie Garcia]: No,

609

[Robb]: you?

610

[Tina Marie Garcia]: no. saying

611

[Robb]: Okay.

612

[Tina Marie Garcia]: like, I'm just saying I

hope I did a good job in the men in my life,

613

[Tina Marie Garcia]: especially that I make

special time for them because I was raised

614

[Tina Marie Garcia]: with a bunch of men, really

good men that were really good to me. So I

615

[Tina Marie Garcia]: don't have that any sort

of hang ups about a man being a man or a woman

616

[Tina Marie Garcia]: being a woman. I'm good

with that. So but I think is women. We are

617

[Tina Marie Garcia]: the soft side and we're

supposed to be the soft side. That's what our

618

[Tina Marie Garcia]: specialty is. We're the

warmth in the heart. So I think as society

619

[Tina Marie Garcia]: we need to stop just telling

men they're shit and they're worthless and

620

[Tina Marie Garcia]: we don't need them and

start really validating the point that we're

621

[Tina Marie Garcia]: all in this together and

we all need to treat each other better. And

622

[Tina Marie Garcia]: if we take the time to

have better relationships with one another,

623

[Tina Marie Garcia]: man and women especially,

then there won't be such a high divorce rate

624

[Tina Marie Garcia]: and there won't be such

a high suicidal rate. There also won't be as

625

[Tina Marie Garcia]: high of abuse rate because

if we're meeting in the middle and we're working

626

[Tina Marie Garcia]: as people and I think as

a whole that's what everybody's trying to do

627

[Tina Marie Garcia]: is just be happy and try

to, you know, get along. I think if we do that

628

[Tina Marie Garcia]: and we don't keep... making

victims out of ourselves, things could get

629

[Tina Marie Garcia]: better. I'm not saying

that life will be perfect. I'm not saying that,

630

[Tina Marie Garcia]: you know, roses and sunshine

are on the horizon. We just got to be nice

631

[Tina Marie Garcia]: to the man next to us.

That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying

632

[Tina Marie Garcia]: is we start with our own

actions. It's like that Michael Jackson song,

633

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Man in the Mirror, like

it starts with who we are and. We need to quit

634

[Tina Marie Garcia]: freaking blaming one thing

over another. It's everybody's fault that everything

635

[Tina Marie Garcia]: in this world is going

on. Period. Because we're all in it. We're

636

[Tina Marie Garcia]: all influencing it.

637

[Robb]: Yeah, my big thing is to stop telling

people that masculinity is not good. We

638

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.

639

[Robb]: need to stop that. Toxic

640

[Tina Marie Garcia]: I agree.

641

[Robb]: masculinity is what makes this planet

go. When you, there's a guy out there who people

642

[Robb]: hate, his name's Andrew Tate, but we

should listen to him on a lot of different

643

[Robb]: levels. He says that, Everyone hates

toxic masculinity until someone's trying to

644

[Robb]: hurt you and then who do you call? The

most toxic person with a gun that can come

645

[Robb]: and save you. But masculinity in general

is not bad. Stop trying to feminize men. We're

646

[Robb]: not. Femininity,

647

[Tina Marie Garcia]: and you're not supposed

to be.

648

[Robb]: we're not supposed to be. Femininity

and masculinity are the yin and yang as well.

649

[Robb]: We need masculine people to to run society

and we need feminine people to make sure, or

650

[Robb]: feminine women and masculine men, to

make sure that both those yin and yangs go

651

[Robb]: together, that when you have children,

that you can have both a side of harshness

652

[Robb]: and a side of love, and then they meet

in the middle. And in a regular relationship,

653

[Robb]: you do need masculinity because... When

you're out and something arises, you want that

654

[Robb]: man to stand up and make sure that you

don't get hurt or this doesn't happen. There's

655

[Robb]: nothing wrong with that. We are now

making any kind of masculinity horrible. I

656

[Robb]: mean, you have men in dresses on the

covers of magazines now where you look at it

657

[Robb]: and it's almost humorous in a sad way.

We need to be okay with men being men and women

658

[Robb]: being women. There's nothing wrong with

this. If we don't start doing this as a culture,

659

[Robb]: back in this country at least, and maybe

any Western society, we're going to push ourselves

660

[Robb]: away because everyone else is that way.

China, Africa, you know, the Middle East. With

661

[Robb]: even their downfalls of how they treat

women, don't get me wrong. I don't wanna say

662

[Robb]: that... the way some of the women are

treated in those countries isn't bad, but at

663

[Robb]: least they have their places in society.

And most societies run better when you use

664

[Robb]: that format. It's worked for three or

4,000 years. Why are we trying to change it

665

[Robb]: now?

666

[Tina Marie Garcia]: And it's changing so rapidly.

That's what's kind of interesting to me. I

667

[Tina Marie Garcia]: remember when I was younger,

my parents would say, well, times were different

668

[Tina Marie Garcia]: when I was a kid. I get

that now, because it

669

[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

670

[Tina Marie Garcia]: really was different for

us. You know, being raised where we were, it's

671

[Tina Marie Garcia]: not even the same world

that we're looking at.

672

[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

673

[Tina Marie Garcia]: And I know my generation

specifically, I hear them saying all the time,

674

[Tina Marie Garcia]: what the hell did we do

wrong? that is going so far the other way.

675

[Robb]: Yeah.

676

[Tina Marie Garcia]: But if you if you have

enough influences that are, you know, out there

677

[Tina Marie Garcia]: and pushing their agendas,

it doesn't take very it doesn't take very much,

678

[Tina Marie Garcia]: you

679

[Robb]: Mm-mm.

680

[Tina Marie Garcia]: know, before somebody's

like really out there and make it just screaming

681

[Tina Marie Garcia]: it. And

682

[Robb]: Yeah, it's

683

[Tina Marie Garcia]: really,

684

[Robb]: a.

685

[Tina Marie Garcia]: should we be screaming

anybody's agenda? Really? Like

686

[Robb]: Well, I mean, look, you should fight

for what you believe in. And I'm not, and I'm

687

[Robb]: never gonna say that you shouldn't.

But there's also a point where you have to

688

[Robb]: look on how society in general works

and how it's worked. It's just a norm of how

689

[Robb]: we are as this animal, because that's

what we are, we're animals. If you went into

690

[Robb]: any structured animal world and tried

to change how they are, they would not survive.

691

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

692

[Robb]: And just because we're a bigger brained

standing up organism doesn't mean that we're

693

[Robb]: smarter than the bears. We're not.

694

[Tina Marie Garcia]: It's true.

695

[Robb]: We need to stay in our lane. And mostly

if these people, like I'll give you the example

696

[Robb]: of like climate deniers or saying, you

know, if we don't do this, we're the world's

697

[Robb]: gonna end. And if we don't do this,

we're fine or whatever. If we don't continue

698

[Robb]: to mate, there won't be anyone here

for the planet to survive. It'll just right

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[Robb]: down the toilet.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah

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[Robb]: And that's reality. But we need to pick

men up, I think a little bit more these days.

702

[Robb]: And as you can tell, someone who used

to be a woman, who's now a man for eight years,

703

[Robb]: realizes that it's not the happy place

that everyone thinks it is to be a man in this

704

[Robb]: society. And if we keep pushing and

keep pushing, we're going to not have women

705

[Robb]: being protected by men anymore. And

it's going to be a much more harsher world

706

[Robb]: to live in. We need strong men to make

sure that the world keeps going because strong

707

[Robb]: men end up making softer men because

then they think they don't have to do anything.

708

[Robb]: and then the world goes to shit and

who do they start looking for? Stronger men

709

[Robb]: again, because it's the only one who's

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

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[Robb]: gonna rebound that society. So, Bill,

to me, go find young men, and I mean young

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[Robb]: men, like 20 and younger, and make sure

you tell them what it means to be a man in

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[Robb]: society, because the colleges and the

media is telling them to be weak. individuals

714

[Robb]: who just stand by with a sign in their

hand instead of being the one throwing punches.

715

[Robb]: And sometimes you have to throw punches

because if you don't,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

717

[Robb]: you will end up being weak. And like

there's a my friend down the street, I do my

718

[Robb]: best. His father isn't in his life enough.

So I made it my thing to make sure that I check

719

[Robb]: on him and make sure he's doing okay.

And that some man in his life gives a shit

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[Robb]: about him, because he's

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm

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[Robb]: a good kid, and I don't want him to

go off the rails, thinking it's, you know,

723

[Robb]: that men are, or fathers are men are

all like that, because they're not. People

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: That's

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[Robb]: care

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: true.

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[Robb]: about you, and I make sure my kid knows

that, like, you have to be a strong man, because

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[Robb]: that's what women will want later on

in life. They're gonna want a strong man who's

729

[Robb]: gonna take care of them that they feel

safe with. And I don't mean safe and just like,

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[Robb]: oh, thank goodness, everything's fine.

No, like I feel safe around this guy. Like

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[Robb]: he's gonna take care of me and my kids

and make sure nothing happens to us and we

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[Robb]: get home safe. To me,

733

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

734

[Robb]: that's way more important in life. And

that's what I want in a mate. I want a mate

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[Robb]: who's okay with taking on sometimes

the feminine role of let me talk to them on

736

[Robb]: this level instead of. Because men are

brash. We talk very, I mean, I hate to say

737

[Robb]: it, just like very on top of people.

Sometimes it's good to give a woman the lead

738

[Robb]: and say, go talk to them and see what's

wrong with them. We need that yin and yang,

739

[Robb]: but we need to stop burying men under

this very false societal shit that you're not,

740

[Robb]: you don't need to be a man anymore.

You need to be soft. You need to cry. You need

741

[Robb]: to be open.

742

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Well, and there is there

is a time and space for that in life there

743

[Robb]: Mm-hmm,

744

[Tina Marie Garcia]: is

745

[Robb]: there is.

746

[Tina Marie Garcia]: but we also need Them to

be the ones to suck it up sometime But I just

747

[Tina Marie Garcia]: think as a as a society

right now we're asking men To not only go against

748

[Tina Marie Garcia]: who they are with their

strength but to You know, we're going to make

749

[Tina Marie Garcia]: fun of them for being strong

on top of it, but we're going to lean on them

750

[Tina Marie Garcia]: when we need it. But, you

know, like, what are we doing? Like, it just

751

[Tina Marie Garcia]: doesn't seem fair.

752

[Robb]: It's

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: And

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[Robb]: a yo-yo

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: and.

756

[Robb]: relationship.

757

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah. And and, you know,

the funny thing about it is when, you know,

758

[Tina Marie Garcia]: when we're when I'm with

my friends, maybe because we're older and we

759

[Tina Marie Garcia]: see a guy and he's doing

something like really. Like. you

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[Robb]: Manly?

761

[Tina Marie Garcia]: know, carrying something,

yeah, manly, they're carrying something really

762

[Tina Marie Garcia]: big, or they're,

763

[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

764

[Tina Marie Garcia]: they're getting dirty and

they're doing like their job or whatever. We

765

[Tina Marie Garcia]: all kind of rubberneck

it and look at them go, damn, you know, that's

766

[Tina Marie Garcia]: hot because it's genetically

it is.

767

[Robb]: this.

768

[Tina Marie Garcia]: It's supposed to be sexy.

It's supposed to be attractive. And I'm not

769

[Tina Marie Garcia]: thinking, oh, I wish he

put that down and like start, you know. start

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: complaining about his life

with me. That's not what

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[Robb]: Yeah,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: I'm thinking.

773

[Robb]: no.

774

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Like, wait, you just threw

that around. Can I get some of that attention?

775

[Robb]: Yeah, or you

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: You

777

[Robb]: know

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: know.

779

[Robb]: when something needs to get done that

you can't do physically, he's gonna be the

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[Robb]: person there to make sure it gets done,

regardless

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

782

[Robb]: of what that is. It's taking the tree

out of the ground, it's, you know, getting

783

[Robb]: in,

784

[Tina Marie Garcia]: replacing

785

[Robb]: if,

786

[Tina Marie Garcia]: a tire on the freeway.

787

[Robb]: yeah, if

788

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.

789

[Robb]: someone's in your face, he's gonna make

sure he's in between you and making sure that

790

[Robb]: stops. It's okay to... be a man in society

today. And I wish more people will push that

791

[Robb]: instead of the weakening of this modern

man.

792

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Well... I don't know how

much influence I have, but I really do try

793

[Tina Marie Garcia]: all the time to tell people

no that's wrong like don't you like that men

794

[Tina Marie Garcia]: are sexy like that? Don't

you turned on by the fact that he wants to

795

[Tina Marie Garcia]: growl at you before you

guys have sex like it's okay to be wanted like

796

[Tina Marie Garcia]: that

797

[Robb]: Sure.

798

[Tina Marie Garcia]: isn't it? It is. So why

would you why would you cut him down for all

799

[Tina Marie Garcia]: these things? I'm just

hearing a lot of shit lately about men

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[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

801

[Tina Marie Garcia]: and I'm like well wait

it doesn't make sense why are you mad at that?

802

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Why are you mad at that?

803

[Robb]: And most of those burly, manly men,

they want feminine women.

804

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Well,

805

[Robb]: That's just reality.

806

[Tina Marie Garcia]: I notice that in my life,

the ones that are kind of the biggest dicks

807

[Tina Marie Garcia]: are normally close or friends

to me.

808

[Robb]: Right.

809

[Tina Marie Garcia]: The guys that are like,

I'm super mad, you know, I do this, they're,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: first of all, they entertain

me because I think they're funny that they're

811

[Tina Marie Garcia]: so, you know, themselves.

But also I think they like it too because I

812

[Tina Marie Garcia]: never put them down. I'm

like, that's right, grout, grr, you know, give

813

[Tina Marie Garcia]: it to them. Like... I encourage

bad behavior or what people think is bad behavior

814

[Tina Marie Garcia]: just because it's more

entertaining for me. But I also think that

815

[Tina Marie Garcia]: when guys are acting like

that, it is sexy.

816

[Robb]: Yeah,

817

[Tina Marie Garcia]: I am okay with that.

818

[Robb]: it's worked for thousands of years,

Tina.

819

[Tina Marie Garcia]: You know,

820

[Robb]: Thousands

821

[Tina Marie Garcia]: my genetics

822

[Robb]: of years.

823

[Tina Marie Garcia]: are saying that you are

right, Rob.

824

[Robb]: And just remember, and just remember,

like at some point, there was a guy with a

825

[Robb]: club who hit some woman over the head

and dragged her

826

[Tina Marie Garcia]: You

827

[Robb]: by

828

[Tina Marie Garcia]: know,

829

[Robb]: the hair back

830

[Tina Marie Garcia]: and

831

[Robb]: to a cave.

832

[Tina Marie Garcia]: sometimes I would even

say that sexy so.

833

[Robb]: Yeah, look, it's fact, it's built into

us.

834

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

835

[Robb]: We're going to we're going to leave

it on that. Make sure you check our social

836

[Robb]: medias, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram,

and make sure you go to all the podcasting

837

[Robb]: places. You can listen to this share,

like.

838

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Follow.

839

[Robb]: Follow for free. It's all free. It's

great. We don't cost a thing. And yeah, this

840

[Robb]: is an opinion show, so don't get it

twisted. If you'd like to come on and talk

841

[Robb]: with us, we're more than happy to have

people on. And yeah, until next week. Anything

842

[Robb]: else there, Miss Tina?

843

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Have a good Father's Day,

Rob.

844

[Robb]: I'll do my best. We'll talk to you later.

845

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Alright, bye

846

[Robb]: Bye.

847

[Tina Marie Garcia]: bye.