Welcome to the first episode of my Mother-in-Law Series. In preparation, I interviewed women in their mid 20s to early 30s about their mothers-in-law, and one of them said something profound: joining a new family is like moving to another country. You don't know the customs or the language. So we (as the mothers-in-law) get to decide, will I be a friendly local or border control?
In this 5 episode series, we're starting with weddings, because that's often where this relationship begins, and where hurt feelings can begin too. I share my own wedding regret: I tried so hard not to burden my mom that she ended up feeling left out, and it took us years to talk about it.
In this episode:
If a past wedding still stings, stick with me. Episode 5 of this series is for you.
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Welcome to Midlife with Brooke.
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:I am your host, Brooke Oniki.
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:I'm a disciple of Jesus Christ,
a wife, mother, grandma,
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:and a certified life coach.
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:On this podcast, we talk about all things
mothering, health and emotional wellbeing.
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:I share practical tools and
examples from my life and from the
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:lives of my clients to help you
navigate this new season of midlife.
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:It can feel tricky and confusing and
a little bit out of our comfort zone
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:as our children grow up and they
don't really need us in the same way.
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:These concepts and principles have changed
my life and I've watched them change
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:the lives of my clients, and I hope that
they can be helpful if there are things
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:that you wanna change in your life.
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:So let's get started.
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:Speaker 2: Hello.
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:Welcome to the podcast.
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:Today is the beginning of a series
of five podcasts about being a
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:daughter-in-law or being a mother-in-law.
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:Most of you that listen are probably
more in the camp of being a mother-in-law
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:and trying to learn how to do that well.
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:Some of you are a daughter-in-law
and trying to do that well, or
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:you've been a daughter-in-law for
30 years and you're still trying
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:to figure out how to be the kind of
daughter-in-law you would wanna be.
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:But this relationship can be
tricky, and lots of people
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:don't know exactly how to do it.
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:So in preparation for this, I
actually reached out to many girls
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:that are in their mid to late 20s,
early 30s who have husbands and kids,
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:and I talked to them about their
relationships with their mothers-in-law.
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:And I learned so many great things,
and so that's why I'm gonna do a series
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:because there are lots of components, not
just, you know, the wedding day, but this
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:relationship that you grow over time.
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:And one of the really profound things
that one of the girls said is getting
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:married or joining a new family is a
little bit like moving to another country.
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:We don't know the customs,
we don't know the language.
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:We don't really know how this country
works, So as a mother-in-law, we get
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:to decide, am I gonna be a friendly
local or am I gonna be border control?
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:Am I gonna have a hard time
allowing this person to assimilate
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:into our family culture?
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:Or am I gonna assume that she's not
even trying and that she doesn't care
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:and that we're not a priority to her,
I have found that when we assume that
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:people are doing their best, we try to
do our best and we believe that other
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:people are trying to do their best,
our ability to learn and understand the
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:language and the culture of this new
family that we're creating becomes easier.
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:So in these five podcasts, we're
gonna talk about lots of different
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:things But we're gonna start
first with the wedding itself.
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:I find it very interesting.
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:I've had lots of clients talk to me
about weddings, weddings that happened
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:20 years ago that they're still
regretting how they handled things.
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:Weddings that happened a few years ago
and feeling like their kids or their,
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:new in-law overlooked them or didn't
seem to care that they were even there
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:and felt like the only thing that
mattered was that they were paying
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:for it, and people who felt really,
really hurt by the wedding experience.
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:So I know you're gonna
be in different places.
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:Some of you had weddings a long time ago.
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:Some of you haven't had weddings yet.
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:Sometimes some of you are still stinging
a little bit from a wedding in the past.
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:And so the goal of this is to just
recognize that there's a lot of
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:communication that hasn't happened or
didn't happen at the time that might
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:make weddings feel really painful.
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:So if you have a wedding
coming up, hopefully you can
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:consider some of these things.
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:If you have a wedding in the
past, maybe these are some
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:conversations that are worth having.
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:I know in my own wedding experience, I
did some things that were really hurtful
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:to my mom, and I thought I was being
helpful I was 29 when I got married, and
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:my sister that was just younger than me
had gotten married several years before.
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:And I remember my mom, you know,
making all the food and putting
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:it in the freezer, the cookies
and the tarts and the things that
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:she was making for the desserts.
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:And she was telling me how my
little brothers were eating
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:them, and she kept making them.
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:And so I remember thinking,
"When I get married, I'm not
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:gonna make her do anything.
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:I'm gonna just do it all."
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:And I was on a very limited budget,
and so it was really stressful for
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:me to create a wedding in March.
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:I got married in March, which
is not a real summery, pretty
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:time to be getting married.
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:And so I felt really stressed about
making it pretty enough and nice
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:enough for everyone, nice enough
for my new mother-in-law, and
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:accommodating for my large family.
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:And it was just a really
stressful time for me.
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:And my mom, come to find out
many, many years later, felt very
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:isolated and unneeded because I
was trying so hard to not make it
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:hard for her that I didn't really
include her very well in my wedding.
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:And she never said anything about it,
but I knew that I had hurt her feelings.
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:But it was years later before
we actually talked about it.
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:And so I have some regrets, and
we've talked now and had some
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:healing But I don't want you to
have to wait years and years.
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:I think these are conversations
worth having and trying to understand
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:where people were coming from so that
you can feel some healing if there
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:are wounds surrounding a wedding.
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:So I'm just gonna talk to you about some
different things that these girls shared
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:with me and things that clients have
shared with me that I think could be
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:helpful in either preparing for a wedding
or if you've had a wedding and things like
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:this have gone wrong, I think they might
be worth talking about a little bit more.
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:So number one, we gotta have
some patience on both sides.
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:First of all, this bride has never planned
a wedding most likely, and so She may
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:not be perfect at communicating what
her needs are, or she might feel like
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:she's being coerced to do things that
she doesn't really want to do so much.
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:And so let's give her some grace that
she's trying to do her best at creating
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:a wedding that feels good to her and fun
to her and what she had envisioned and
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:imagined, and also trying to accommodate
the opinions of so many other people.
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:So she's got some experiences, and you're
also having some experiences, where maybe
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:if you are funding the wedding, it might
feel like you get to have more of a say.
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:And that can feel frustrating if
it feels like your opinion isn't
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:being acknowledged or recognized.
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:But the bottom line is we want
to learn how to communicate.
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:And if there's a gap there, we
don't need to assume that they hate
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:us or they don't care about us or
appreciate us, but a lot of times,
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:We may not have the tools, the
resources, or the skills to communicate
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:the way that we would like to.
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:And so if we don't, let's be
patient with one another and
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:try our best to communicate.
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:And hopefully, if you've been listening
to my podcast for a while, you've
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:learned a few things that you're
trying in order to communicate in
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:more honest and authentic ways.
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:The next thing we wanna do is take
care of our own emotional needs first.
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:our feelings will be hurt at some
point in the process of planning.
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:And the question is, do I have enough
resources to take care of myself?
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:Do I know about nervous system regulation?
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:Do I recognize when I feel
elevated or shut down?
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:Do I know the things that I can
do to try to get myself back into
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:a more calm and rational state?
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:Can I take a walk?
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:Am I getting the rest I need?
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:Am I getting the movement and
the nutrition and the sunlight?
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:Do I have trusted relationships that
I can turn to so that I'm not just
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:turning to the bride and groom, so
that I can work through whatever it
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:is that might feel hard or hurtful if
I'm feeling dismissed or overlooked?
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:I need to know what my needs are
so that I can take care of them.
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:Assuming that other people are
going to understand and take care
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:of my needs It's just unlikely.
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:So I need to make sure
I'm taking care of those.
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:like if I have a daily practice
of studying the scriptures and
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:praying, or if I consistently walk,
I make sure I drink enough water.
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:Like, let's not give those things
up in a time of busyness, because
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:our nervous systems thrive on the
structure of that, and it helps us
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:to stay balanced, and level-headed,
and rational in our thinking.
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:So when things get busy, not just
weddings, but holiday seasons or
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:summertime, sometimes when things
get out of our typical routine,
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:we drop the things that help us to
stay in that zone of resilience.
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:So if I can stay more consistent with
those patterns that keep me feeling
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:good, and healthy, and emotionally
strong, I want to make sure that
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:I'm continuing to do those things.
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:The next thing to consider is
that the wedding belongs to them.
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:It's not your wedding, So I
need to remember that I get to
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:choose how I show up in it, but
it's not actually my wedding.
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:So I had a client tell me
I could share this story.
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:she had been divorced.
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:She had a really great relationship with
all of her kids, and her son was getting
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:married soon, and she was a little
anxious about her ex-husband and his
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:new wife being at all these festivities.
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:And she'd done so much work on herself,
and she was in a really good space.
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:But she said when we got out of the
wedding, she felt like she wasn't really
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:being herself, that she was being more
quiet, and shy, and not as engaged
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:as fully as she was wanting to be.
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:So she said, "I went into the
bathroom and I just regrouped.
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:I told myself, 'I'm not here to
focus on him and his new wife.
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:I am here to focus on my son and his
new bride that I love, that I have a
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:strong relationship with, and all these
beautiful people that are coming to
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:support them, that have loved them, and
cared about them, and loved our family,
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:and that is what I'm here to focus on.
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:This is about them today.'"
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:And she said, "Immediately, I
felt this shift inside of me."
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:And for the rest of the day, she was
able to focus on how much she loved
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:her son and this new daughter-in-law,
and how grateful she was for all
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:the support they were receiving
from so many people who loved them.
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:And so not that there's not ever grief,
or pain, or discomfort at a wedding,
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:but I can- Have those things and still
decide who I wanna be in that moment.
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:What do I wanna focus on?
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:What do I wanna be grateful for?
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:What do I wanna appreciate?
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:would it be nicer if
those guys weren't here?
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:Yeah, for me it would be nicer.
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:But they are, but I'm not gonna
focus all my energy on that.
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:I'm gonna focus my energy on the things
that are the most important to me.
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:So that principle of who do I
want to be in this relationship
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:is available at any moment.
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:This client of mine regrouped right
in the middle of the day, right?
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:So we can do that.
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:We can be thinking like, "I don't really
like how I'm showing up here today.
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:I don't like that I'm feeling
sad," or that I'm complaining about
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:something that happened, or telling
someone, "Nobody cares about us.
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:They just want our checkbook."
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:Like, I can go in the bathroom and
regroup and decide, "Wait a minute.
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:Who do I wanna be today?
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:What do I wanna focus on?"
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:And I can choose to show up in a way that
feels really aligned with what I value.
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:I can choose that at any moment.
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:That is so powerful and
so important to remember.
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:the next thing to consider is that
you are not the first family anymore.
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:today a new family was created
with your child and their partner,
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:and there's some grief in that.
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:There's some loss in that.
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:I remember when our first child left
home and feeling like, "Ah, it's never
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:gonna be the same," or even at, in
my own growing up home when my sister
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:got married, I remember feeling like,
"Ugh, this is ruining everything."
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:I don't know what I thought we would
do, that we would all just live with
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:my parents for the rest of our lives.
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:But when she got married, I kind of felt
like this guy had come in and wrecked our
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:family, because this unit as we had known
it was not gonna be the same anymore.
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:And so there can be some
pain and some grief.
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:I would call it clean pain, where our
lives change in ways that feel sad to us
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:So certainly you may have to
process through some grief.
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:But on the wedding day, we can just
recognize that this new family has
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:been formed, and the mother-in-law
is not the center of that family.
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:Think of your own wedding, You were
forming this new union between you
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:and your spouse, And it's not between
you and your spouse and your moms.
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:And so we can just glory in the fact
that they have created this new family.
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:And if you wanna work on a marriage, work
on your marriage, the one that you're in.
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:So we'll let them work on their marriage,
and you can work on creating the marriage
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:that you want to have, not your child's.
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:Sometimes it can feel painful because we
feel like we're losing our motherly role.
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:But your daughter-in-law already
has a mother, So you don't need
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:to fill that motherly role.
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:In fact, on next week's podcast,
we're gonna talk about the role
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:that is perfect for you to fill.
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:The next thing to consider is that
we can have grace from every angle.
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:Let me share some examples.
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:One girl shared a story about
feeling hurt by her fiancé.
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:So they weren't yet married,
but he had hurt her feelings.
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:They were at church, he said
something, she started to cry, told
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:him she was going to the bathroom,
went to the car and was crying.
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:And a few minutes later, her soon-to-be
mother-in-law came out to the car
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:and she said, "She just listened
as I told her what had happened.
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:And instead of defending her son, she
said, 'He can be really hard sometimes.
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:I'm so sorry.'"
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:And she just listened and validated
this new daughter-in-law, and it was
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:super meaningful to the daughter-in-law
to feel like her mother-in-law was on
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:her side, and that she wasn't trying to
defend her son under all circumstances.
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:Another example.
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:Daughter-in-law had a bad experience
at a wedding for one of her siblings
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:where she felt very overlooked,
very much not a part of the wedding,
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:and it really hurt her feelings.
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:So fast-forward a couple of weeks, she's
on the phone with her mother-in-law
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:and she tells her mother-in-law
how she felt at this wedding.
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:And she said as she was telling her she
wondered, "I wonder if my mother-in-law
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:felt that way at my wedding," because
her mother-in-law is a single parent
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:from another country, so she had come
to the wedding, but this daughter-in-law
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:hadn't really asked much of her.
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:She didn't know her, had only met her a
few times when they were at the wedding.
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:And so on this phone call she asked her,
"Did you feel like that at my wedding?"
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:And this mother-in-law broke down and
started to cry, and they had this very
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:healing conversation this daughter-in-law
was able to apologize to her mother-in-law
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:and they were able to understand each
other in a new way and understand, "Oh,
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:I could have figured out a way to include
her a little bit more instead of just
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:assuming that I was supposed to do it all
on my own," kinda like I did with my mom.
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:Very, very interesting.
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:I had another girl say, "I got
married two days before Mother's Day.
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:Didn't even think about calling my
mom while we were on our honeymoon.
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:My husband didn't call his mom
while we were on our honeymoon."
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:She said, "It was probably 10
years before I realized, oh,
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:Didn't even notice that
Mother's Day had come and gone."
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:And she said, "So please remember that
your prefrontal cortex isn't fully
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:formed generally when you get married,
if you get married in your early 20s.
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:And so some of the things that we
did that might have hurt you, over
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:time, we, we might see it, but we
didn't recognize it at the time."
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:So I think that's also an important
part of grace, that oftentimes
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:the things we do that are hurtful
come because we don't have a frame
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:of reference for what's going on.
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:We don't understand that it's hard
and that there's some emotional
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:challenges in letting go of a
child and letting them get married.
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:And those are some things that
you don't really know when you're
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:22 or 24 because you don't have
a frame of reference for that.
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:I remember my sister got married at 7:30
in the morning because that was the only
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:sealing time they had available that day.
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:And when she was about 40, she said,
"I can't believe I expected everybody
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:to get up, get their kids ready, their
hair done, in their bridal clothes,
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:And then they had to be there by 7:00
because the sealing was at 7:30."
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:She said, "I just didn't
even know what I was asking."
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:So if we can have grace for our kids
that they are doing their best to
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:figure it out, and it might be a
while before they recognize, wow,
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:that was a lot of sacrifice or
that was a lot of work for them.
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:so when I go back to the who do I
wanna be during this wedding, I remind
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:myself, is this the kind of person I
wanna be, that I fund part of this,
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:that I participate, that I make all
the food, I get to decide who do I
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:wanna be, regardless of how they are.
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:Like, how do I wanna show up
for my child at their wedding?
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:And if I can stay aligned with that,
that's gonna help me act from that
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:space instead of being reactive
to their level of appreciation.
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:The next thing is to just remember
that every wedding is different.
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:Finances, family support, how
much the bride wants to take
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:charge, they all vary, right?
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:So we don't wanna guess.
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:We wanna ask as much as we can.
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:And when they tell us, we
wanna believe their answers.
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:Let's not try to talk
people out of things.
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:Let's listen.
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:It doesn't mean that we wouldn't
say, "Consider this, consider that."
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:Speaker 3: in the case of my sister,
that might have been helpful if someone
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:would have said, "Let's consider
how this will affect everyone if
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:you have a wedding appointment at
seven-thirty in the morning, and how
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:will that affect the day, and how
much time people need to be there?"
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with talking it over and trying to
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:help people make a good decision.
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:We just wanna be careful about having
a really strong agenda and, and
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:Speaker 2: So in closing,
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:You can't control the wedding,
but you can control who you are.
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:If my nervous system is
dysregulated, what can I do to
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:take care of my emotional needs?
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:What am I gonna think?
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:What do I wanna focus on?
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:How do I wanna show up for these
people that I love during this
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:time that's so important to them?
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:a good question to ask yourself is,
what do you wish your mother-in-law
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:would have understood at your wedding?
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:And what might your daughter-in-law
wish you understood?
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:And I also want to note that if your
wedding is long past and there are
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:still things that feel really stingy
to you, in episode five of this
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:series, we're gonna talk about what
to do if you're still feeling some
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:hard, hard feelings about a wedding.
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:That's what I have for you today
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:Thanks for coming.
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:If you like the podcast, I hope
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:that you think it would help.
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:your adult kids, your husband, yourself,
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:you want to show up for in good ways.
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:So have a great week.
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:See ya.