AI is transforming the way organizations build and secure software. In this episode of AppSec.FM, Jerry Hoff talks with Chris Hertz, co-founder and CEO of Healer, about how AI is reshaping both development practices and attacker strategies. The discussion explores the economics of vulnerability remediation, the challenges of securing open source dependencies, and how collaboration between developers and security teams can build more resilient software.

Highlights:

• How AI is reshaping development and security.

• Why attackers are leveraging AI to scale their exploits.

• The economics of vulnerability remediation and barriers to fixing issues.

• Healer’s approach to identifying exploitable vulnerabilities.

• Guardrails for managing malicious or risky dependencies.

• The importance of collaboration between AppSec teams and developers.

• Building resilience into software as the ultimate defense.

Guest links:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/christopherhertz/

https://www.heeler.com/

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