In the first month of every New Year, an average of 43% of people fail at least one of their New Years resolutions in the first month. This startling statistic, coupled with the fact that weight loss is normally one of the top resolutions that someone makes, can create hesitancy in wanting to start something that may not "pan out." Today's guest, however, shares their version of a protein-type lifestyle that has not only shown massive success, but has provided results in the form of a set of books that equip readers (and those wanting to take on a new diet) to a whole new level. Today's guest, Joshua D. Noland, not only shares how this diet has fundamentally changed him physically, but how the mental health benefits have deepened his relationships with others and made him more focus and calm in approaching his daily life. Author of the Protein Lifestyle series of books, he breaks down practical tips that we can all use in our lives, regardless of our experiences with dieting & exercise, that will make us more healthy from the inside out.

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Joshua D. Noland, acclaimed author of the Protein Lifestyle series, including Living the Protein Lifestyle, The Protein Lifestyle Workbook, and The Protein Lifestyle Cookbook, is on a mission to help others by improving their health by developing healthy habits. He advocates for a whole food diet, an active lifestyle, and emphasizes the significance of mental well-being. He was able to overcome food addiction and depression by taking control of his health and found lasting success. Outside of his writing Joshua is an avid outdoorsman and a devoted dog father, continually inspired by nature and his loyal canine companions.

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Intro/Outro By: Michael Dugan, Podcast Host: Voice4Chefs

Welcome to the podcast where relationships, confidence, and

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determination all converge into

an amazing, heartfelt experience.

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This is Speaking From The Heart.

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Joshua: Welcome back to episode

number 184 of Speaking from the Heart.

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Today, I'm breaking another milestone,

even after all these episodes I've

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done, by having a fellow Josh on

the show, so I'm super excited

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about finally having someone else

that shares the same name as me.

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Joshua D.

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Noland, specifically, is on the show

today, and he's an acclaimed author

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of the Protein Lifestyle series,

including Living the Protein Lifestyle,

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the Protein Lifestyle Workbook,

and the Protein Lifestyle Cookbook.

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He is on a mission to help

others by improving their health

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by developing healthy habits.

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He advocates for a whole food diet,

an active lifestyle, and emphasizes

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the significance of mental well being.

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He was able to overcome food addiction

and depression by taking control of

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his health and found lasting success.

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Outside of his writing, Joshua is an

avid outdoorsman and a devoted dog

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father, continually inspired by nature

and his loyal canine companions, and I

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have to say, for somebody that shares

the same first name as me, I certainly

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related to Josh's story today, especially

as he went through all the different

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areas of his life that ultimately led

him down his path of writing these

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different protein lifestyle books.

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I think that we really take away a

number of different things when we think

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of exercise, especially in this time

of year, which is really popularized

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by the fact that we want to jump start

hitting some major goals, and one of

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those goals includes physical fitness,

but when you feel depressed, and you're

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trying to take out all these different

things that are challenging in the

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world, of course it's going to be

tough to even reach a goal like that.

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I think what you'll find, especially as

we have this conversation today, that

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it's not just about mastering life, or

mastering a set of recipes that will help

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you to feel better, but I think that if

you have the three pillars which we talk

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about: nutrition, fitness, and recovery,

not only do you have an opportunity

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to reset yourself, but you also have

a way that you could shift the focus.

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You can stop feeling stressed.

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You can stop feeling overwhelmed, and

that you can help yourself with being

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coached in more ways than you maybe ever

found possible doing it all by yourself.

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This is the biggest time of year for

accountability, and if there's anything

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that you take away from today, it's

that there's nothing that's impossible,

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and I certainly can say that someone

that shares the first name like

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myself, you can learn so much from

people like Josh, especially like we

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have as a double dose of them today.

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But with that, let's go to the episode.

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All right.

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We have Joshua Noland with us.

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Joshua!

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Thanks for sharing your

heart with us today.

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Joshua N.: It's my pleasure

to be here today, Josh.

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Really appreciate you

having me on the show.

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Joshua: Yeah, and I have to thank

Buzzsprout for connecting us.

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It's been a while since I had somebody

on the show from Buzzsprout, so I really

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thank you so much for taking some time

to do this with me today, so I want

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to start off, because I've already let

my listeners, Josh, know a little bit

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about your background, which, by the

way, you have such a beautiful name.

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Thanks for having that name given to you.

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I have to start off with that.

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Joshua N.: We do.

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We do share that in common.

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Yes.

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Joshua: Yeah.

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Joshua N.: A great name.

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Joshua: I love that, and I have

to acknowledge that because I'm

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sure people are like, "Oh, great.

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We're going to hang out to hear bros

named Josh talking to each other today."

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Joshua N.: They're just going

to have to suffer through it.

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Joshua: They do.

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They're going to have to deal with

it, but Josh, I want to start off

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with the fact that you're an author.

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You have written a number of books about

the protein lifestyle, but obviously,

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before we even dive into any of those

books, there was a backstory as to why

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you went on this health journey, why

you went on this physical journey to

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become better overall, so I'm wondering

if you could share a little bit of your

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back story as it relates to that for us.

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Joshua N.: Definitely, I'd love to.

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My whole life I was overweight, and I

struggled with depression, overeating,

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food addiction, and there was just one

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work, and I was walking up the steps, and

mind you, this is only five or six steps,

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and by the time I got to the top, I was

out of breath, and I had been, tired of

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feeling sick and tired, and it was at

that point when I decided that I needed

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a change, and I wanted to take control of

my health, so I started by talking to a

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therapist, and they mentioned meditation.

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Now, I never thought that I would

be the kind of person that would try

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meditating, but I was in a place where

I was open to trying new things, and I

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gave it a shot, and I really liked it.

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Afterwards, I felt a sense of calm, and I

felt like I had more mental bandwidth to

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deal with struggles that came up during

the day, and I also started exercising.

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I started doing strength training a few

days a week, and man, it was really hard.

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Just after a few repetitions, I would be

really tired and start sweating, but I

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stuck with it, and after a few weeks, I

started getting into it, and I started

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feeling really good along with the

meditation, but I had a lot of weight to

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lose, and I decided to change my diet,

and that's when I started cutting out

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the processed foods and eating more whole

foods, and more protein in particular.

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That was four years ago, and I've

lost over 80 pounds, and kept it off,

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despite having a knee surgery in the

middle of all of it, and I really

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want to share my story with anyone

who it could benefit to try to help

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them take control of their own health.

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Joshua: You said something earlier

that I want to focus on for a second,

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because I think that for many people,

there's a disconnect between the

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physical and the mental aspects of why

sometimes people go down a journey of

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being overweight, and I was sharing

with you even before the show of the

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things that I'm trying to do even with

my own physical health, because I needed

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to get back in the gym, and I relate

to you, Josh, when it comes to being

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able to go upstairs and feeling winded.

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I've had clients even through my business

that have talked about this personally.

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Why is mental health so critical to

also the physical health aspects?

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Joshua N.: Well, I believe

that mental health is the most

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important aspect to overall health.

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If you don't care about yourself,

you're not going to take the time to

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focus on eating right, exercising, and

that's where it all starts, so many

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of us are in a bad place emotionally,

and it really takes that motivation,

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and that drive, to want to improve

your health to take that first step.

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Joshua: What was it that you

were going through mentally that

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maybe was challenging for you to

also work on yourself physically.

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I'm wondering if you could share maybe

some insight what you were going through

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your thought pattern back in 2019 for us.

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Joshua N.: Yeah.

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Like I mentioned, I was depressed.

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I was kind of always depressed

throughout childhood, and my young

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adulthood, and I had spoken with

therapists in the past, but I never

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took it seriously, and I never really

exercised regularly, and also, my diet

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was bad, and I had a lot of anger issues.

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I would get frustrated easily, and it

would take a long time to calm down, and

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I knew I needed to change, and that's

why I started talking to a therapist,

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because I knew I needed to get my head

right so I could be in a good place

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to start taking care of myself again.

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Joshua: All of us have gone through

COVID, and I imagine that even for

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going to therapy, and I'm imagining

that you were doing that even in

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2020, it had to be extremely tough

to kind of keep that balance and to

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even take some of the suggestions,

like you said, from a therapist,

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although you might not believed in it.

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To be honest with you, Josh, I was

starting therapy when COVID happened when

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I was trying to end my life a few years

ago, which my listeners know all about.

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I'm completely on the different end

of that, and super thrilled that I

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am interviewing people like you, but

I'm wondering if that was a struggle

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for you, and if it wasn't, like,

how did you cope with it, and those

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different mechanisms, especially that

we had to endure during the shutdown?

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Joshua N.: Yeah.

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The COVID lockdowns really took a

toll on everyone's mental health.

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A lot of people are

still struggling today.

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I was lucky enough to start my health

evolution before COVID, so I already

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had some mechanisms in place to deal

with it, but, still with that, I mean,

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it was so scary when it first came out.

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Me and my wife were very scared.

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We were wiping down our groceries,

sanitizing groceries, and just

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taking every precaution, but

luckily, we were a little isolated.

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We were living in the mountains, and we

didn't have too many people around, and we

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had access to 60 acres of the beautiful,

pristine pine forest property where I

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had worked, and the exercise, and the

eating right, and the meditation, and

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all the other mental health strategies

really helped me get through that, even

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though it was very scary, and me and my

wife felt very isolated from our friends

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and family, but as time went on, and

we realized that it might not have been

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as dangerous as it was presented to be,

it got easier, but I really feel for

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people that were stuck in an apartment,

and didn't have those other resources

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to try to deal with all the stress and

anxiety that came with a global pandemic.

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Joshua: We were all learning new skills,

and new opportunities, to even exploit

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some of the challenges of COVID to

the best of our ability, although they

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obviously brought the evolution of

DoorDash and other food service companies

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to the forefront, because we couldn't

have that contact, so I feel like we all

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were trying to kind of figure out where

we were in their space, but I have to

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say, before we even dive into your books,

your background is in the food service

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industry, and that allowed you to have

all kinds of different opportunities

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with food preparation and all those

aspects that come along with it, and I

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had a guest on the show before, Josh.

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His name is Michael Dugan.

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He's actually the intro and outro

of my podcast, and I had him on

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because he has a culinary background.

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He has a podcast that kind of talks about

that, so my listeners learned a lot about

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that, and if you are a listener, you

haven't listened to Michael's episode, I

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encourage you to check that out, but Josh.

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What does it mean to do food

preparation in your world, especially

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when it comes to a healthy lifestyle?

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Is there something that you have

found to be effective, because I feel

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like people always want to make the

excuse of, "I don't have enough time.

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It costs so much to do this, and I

don't know if I have those kinds of

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resources.", so I'm wondering if there's

been some sort of, quote unquote,

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life hack maybe that you've learned.

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Joshua N.: Yeah.

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I've spent thousands of

hours in the kitchen.

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My dad had a catering company as I

was growing up, and I started working

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with him, and cooking with him, from a

very young age, and it's second nature

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to me, and I know a lot of people are

struggling to cook their own foods,

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but it's very, very important that

people cook their own foods these days.

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Restaurants use inexpensive and available

ultra processed oils that are very

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unhealthy, very inflammatory to the body.

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Also, the proportions that food comes

in from restaurants and stores, it's not

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in the right macronutrient proportions.

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You're not getting enough protein, or

fat, and too much carbohydrates, and so

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it's critical that people prepare their

food at home using whole food ingredients,

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and some tips for that would be to

start out slow, and find simple recipes

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that you can learn and master, and then

customize to your particular tastes.

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You want to eat things that you like

eating, and you enjoy making; making food

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in bigger batches, doing meal prep kind

of stuff is excellent for busy people,

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and it can be as easy as cooking a chuck

roast in your Instant Pot, and dividing

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it up into portions, and you can either

freeze them for future use, pull it out,

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defrost it, and you have a meal; or, you

can throw it in the fridge and take it

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to work, but really, what do you like

to eat, finding simple recipes that you

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can discover, and I have my cookbook

out now, and there's a ton of recipes.

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They're high protein.

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They're easy to make, and actually

I have a meatball rating system that

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I like to use for the recipes, so a

one meatball recipe would be an easy

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recipe, and a five meatball recipe

would be a more difficult recipe, like

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my smoked Texas style brisket recipe,

which takes about eight hours to make,

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but it's definitely not for beginners.

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Joshua: Josh.

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You're killing me over here.

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I'm like super hungry wanting to

have brisket, so now I understand.

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Joshua N.: I dream of brisket.

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I was in Austin and they have some

of the best brisket around, and I

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have to say that I think my brisket

is on par with that Texas barbecue.

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Joshua: Now you got me really curious

to pick up the cookbook as soon

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as possible so that I can try some

of these recipes, but before we-

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Joshua N.: Definitely.

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Joshua: Before you make me more

hungry, let's pivot quickly into some

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of the books that you've written.

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Now, for my listeners, I will have

links to these in the episode notes, and

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obviously, you can find this on Josh's

website, but there is the Living The

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Protein Lifestyle; that's number one.

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There is the Protein Lifestyle

Workbook, and then what you mentioned

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just now, the Protein Lifestyle

Cookbook, so here's my first question.

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First off, I never had somebody

on the show that had pitched their

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cookbook, so you got that title as

well, along with being a Josh, but, I

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love that you kind of have this feature

on just protein, so, why protein?

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Why is that important for us?

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Joshua N.: Yeah, that's a great question.

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Most people are not eating enough

protein, and it's really unfortunate

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because it has so many benefits,

including brain function, satiety,

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muscle growth and maintenance.

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It's even good for weight loss,

improved recovery after a workout.

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It plays a vital role in hormone

production, and even the immune system.

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Joshua: What did it mean for you

when you started eating more protein,

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probably even using some of the

techniques that you feature in the

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literature that you've published?

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What did that do for you, personally?

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Did you notice a significant change,

and I wonder if you can walk us through

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the stages as you developed that.

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Joshua N.: Yeah, I always recommend

people start slow in anything they do,

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and especially in eating more protein,

so for most folks that could look

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like just adding an extra egg to your

breakfast, or adding an extra hamburger

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patty to a hamburger, but when I started

incorporating more protein into my diet,

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I noticed that I was less hungry, and

I didn't want a snack during the day.

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Most people may have cereal, or pancakes,

for breakfast and all these carbohydrates

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make your body release insulin, and then

you crash, and you're hungry again, and

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you're tired, and you feel brain fog, but

when you eat protein, it keeps you full

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for longer, and it fuels you throughout

your day, and so I noticed that right away

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when they started eating more protein.

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Joshua: Now, when you wrote the

protein lifestyle, and obviously I

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haven't had an opportunity to read it.

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It's something that I would love

to dive into myself because like

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I said, I'm really trying to be a

little bit more health conscious,

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especially being in this new year.

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I got to be able to keep going on

what I started last year, so that's

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really important for me, but-

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Joshua N.: Definitely.

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Joshua: You mentioned three pillars,

and I'm wondering if you can walk

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us through the three pillars with

the protein lifestyle for us.

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Joshua N.: Yes.

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The three pillars of optimal health,

or the trifecta, I like to call it,

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so the first pillar is nutrition.

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It's a common saying: you can't outrun a

bad diet, and that means that you can't

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go and splurge, and eat a dozen donuts,

and then think you can go to the gym,

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and run for four hours, and work it off.

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It's just not physically possible, so

it's really important what you eat and

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it's more important what you don't eat.

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I highly recommend people stick with whole

foods as much as possible, and try to

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limit processed foods as much as they can.

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The second pillar is fitness.

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Fitness is very important

for your overall health.

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It can affect your mental health,

and it can make you resilient towards

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injuries, or disease, and it can

make you feel good; not just feeling

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strong, but also your muscles release

chemicals that make you feel good when

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you exercise, and especially as we

get older, strength training is very

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important to keep your bones strong.

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A lot of older folks, are at risk of

falling and breaking a hip, and it

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can be very detrimental, but if you

exercise regularly, and you're strong,

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you can avoid those kinds of injuries.

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The third pillar is recovery,

and that's a two parter.

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The first part being mental wellness, and

the second part being physical recovery,

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so we already kind of spoke about mental

wellness, about how important it is to be

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in a good place emotionally, and mentally,

so you can have that motivation to take

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care of yourself, and some strategies

you can use for that are practicing

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gratitude, having a positive mindset, or

breathing exercises, and the second part,

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physical recovery, is really important

not just for when you're exercising,

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but if you twist your ankle, or you

fall and sprain your wrist, it's really

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important to care for those injuries

by using cold therapy, or heat therapy,

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or different supplements like creatine.

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Creatine is an amazing supplement,

not just for repairing your muscles,

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but it also plays a big role in

mental health and how you feel, and I

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recommend everyone take creatine, five

milligrams of creatine monohydrate,

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every day, just as a baseline supplement.

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It's the most researched supplement of

all of them, and that's the trifecta.

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Joshua: With someone that might

listen to this, they might

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have different perspectives.

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I know for me, probably my diet will

need a lot more nutritional value,

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probably a lot more minerals, vitamins,

stuff of that nature, so being able to

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customize that is really important, and

I have to say, what I really loved, and

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I know that this is, for some people,

a taboo topic, but I actually had a

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classmate, Even growing up deal with a

multitude of different digestive issues.

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I noticed that you have something

with IBS, or irritable bowel, and this

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is kind of a TMI moment here for the

show, but I know that my family has

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gone through a lot of those things.

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It's something that we just had poor

diets, possibly, but also I know it's

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genetic in nature that it can be passed

along, so I wonder if you could speak

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a little bit about how somebody could

customize this for just irritable bowel,

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or anything of that nature, but I'm

wondering how this could be tailored

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towards somebody that might have some

different dietary or nutritional needs.

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Joshua N.: Of course.

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Yeah, so many people are

struggling with IBS and other

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digestive diseases these days.

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It's really a big, big deal.

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I wrote a book called Irritable Bowel

Syndrome Relief, which goes over the seven

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key strategies to conquer IBS, and it's

basically the same kind of information

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that I discuss in Living the Protein

Lifestyle, but directed more towards

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bowel disorders in general, and the same

items of the trifecta apply: changing

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your diet, eating more whole foods, and

less of the processed foods, less starchy

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carbohydrates, even less plants at times.

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You know, plants; they don't have

any way to defend themselves.

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They can't fight back.

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They can't run away, and they use

chemicals to protect themselves, and

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sometimes these chemicals can block

the absorption of nutrients in your

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body, and even the fiber, at times,

can irritate your system as well, so

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if someone is really struggling with a

digestive disorder, my protocol would

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be to start by doing a 24 hour fast,

where you're only drinking water,

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maybe some tea, but definitely nothing

with any calories in it, and then, I

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would recommend drinking a bone broth.

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A homemade bone broth would be best,

and you can make bone broth very easily

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with a pressure cooker, or even just a

stock pot on the stove, by boiling some

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beef bones, or chicken bones, even just

chicken legs, with some carrots, and

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some apple cider vinegar, some salt, some

lemon juice, and then you let that cool

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and then refrigerate it overnight, and

then you take the layer of fat that has

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solidified on top and you remove that,

because fat can be very hard to digest,

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especially people with an irritated

gut, so you want to remove that fat.

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Normally, you want to keep the fat.

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A lot of people are really scared of

eating, fat and it's a shame, because

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there are essential fats, along with

essential proteins, and then after

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the bone broth, I would recommend

drinking only bone broth for a day,

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and then starting an elimination diet.

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There's several elimination diets

that people can choose from, but

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one of the simplest ones that I can

recommend is the carnivore diet.

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Just eating animal protein, animal

products: eggs, beef, chicken, fish,

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whatever you like, and that's one

way that people can start addressing

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those issues, along with exercise

and mental health, because the gut

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brain access is very important.

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What you eat affects how you think,

and how you think affects how your

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stomach, and your digestive system works.

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Joshua: I noticed that you are bridging a

lot of different areas for our listeners,

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and even for me, where it comes from

not just being able to take the talents

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and the knowledge that you've learned

as being a chef and writing those things

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down, but obviously, you're working

with people that are trying to also

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change their lives for the better.

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What has it meant for you, especially

going through the last few years

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of your life, redesigning your own

mental, physical wires, basically

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rewiring everything, and now

helping other people through the

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resources that you're providing,

along with your direct expertise.

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What do you think that

has meant for you, Josh?

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Joshua N.: I mean, it's meant everything.

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You know, I used to stuff my face with

candy and chips at night, and it's what

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made me feel good, and have a hard day at

work, and have an argument with my wife,

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be stressed out about bills, and then I

would feel okay, because I knew at home,

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I had peanut butter M&Ms, or hot, flaming

Cheetos, and that was what I looked

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forward to, but now, I can look forward to

waking up in the morning, and getting some

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early, low angle sun in my eyes, because

I know it's really important for helping

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set my circadian rhythm, which will help

me sleep better at night, and I really

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look forward to my meditation and eating,

especially knowing because it's nourishing

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my body, and how good I feel when I eat

healthy, and if I could only help one

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person with the books that I've written,

or by doing this interview, that's what's

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really important to me is to share my

story, and to help as many other people

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as I can, even if it's just one person.

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Joshua: You remind me of

so many people I've had.

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I've had a number of people in the fitness

industry, and I've even have a regular

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client right now in which they're building

their business, and personal training,

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and nutrition planning, and all of that.

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It's amazing to me to see how all these

motivations come from different types

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of stories that we have, and Josh, I

see you as kind of this balanced person

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that I see today, which unfortunately,

for my listeners, they don't see

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you, but I see you, and I see the

strength that you have been able to

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grab as a result of focusing on that.

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How can people achieve

what you have achieved?

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Obviously, they're not going to get

the same direct results that you have.

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Obviously, that's impossible, and we

even have talked about earlier that

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everybody has different dietary needs.

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They have different ways

that they go about it.

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We're in a new year.

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It's 2025.

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How can people get started in

something like this, and not burn out?

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Maybe this is the year that they

finally say, "I've had enough."

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Is there any recommendations

that you want to give to them?

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Joshua N.: Yes.

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I highly recommend that whenever you

start something new, you start slow

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and make small changes over time.

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It's so easy to get wrapped

up in the new year, setting

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goals, and getting overwhelmed.

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Changing your diet alone is a huge change.

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Many people are so emotionally

connected to their foods.

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It can be very overwhelming to start a

new diet, and I recommend that people

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start slow, start prioritizing their

protein, and like I mentioned earlier,

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that could just look like adding an

extra egg, or having a bigger steak, or

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any small little change like that, and

especially when it comes to exercising.

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If you haven't exercised before,

all you have to do is five or ten

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minutes, and you're going to be

sore the next day, so take it slow.

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Don't overdo it.

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Don't injure yourself, and set

yourself back even further.

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One good way to start adding more

physical fitness to your life is just

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going for a walk after every meal.

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Even if it's only 5 minutes, 10 minutes.

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It's so good for your digestive

system, also being outside, getting

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that fresh air, getting that sunlight.

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It's so good for your body in so many

ways, and I'd also recommend starting to

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take care of your mental health, and one

easy way to do that is start meditating.

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It only takes five minutes, ten minutes.

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You can use an app.

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I use the Calm app.

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I recommend the Daily Calm.

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It's a guided meditation.

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Ten minutes every day.

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It's something new, and

it helps you get started.

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There's also tons of videos on

YouTube, or even just going somewhere

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quiet and just listening to nature.

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You sit down, just focus on your

breathing, and it recharges you,

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and re-energizes you for the day.

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Joshua: Those are all awesome tips,

and I think that for someone that

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is just starting out too, one of

the things that I've learned in my

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journey is to just continue to be

persistent, be consistent as much as

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you can, even if you can't give 100%.

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I've learned that so much, and you kind

of reaffirmed that for me, Josh, when it

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comes to your journey, and it's always

good to have somebody on the side too, and

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I was waiting for you to be like, "Hey!

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Get a coach too while you're

at it.", because they can help

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you stay accountable, but hey.

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I'll take that part of it,

and run with it too, but-

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Joshua N.: It's definitely important

to have people that can keep you

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accountable, and help support you

and guide you through your process.

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Joshua: Absolutely.

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There you go.

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Now we got you in there with that as well.

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Josh, I want to give you

the last few minutes here.

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People might be interested with learning

more about your books, and the cookbooks,

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and maybe they want to find you.

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Maybe they want to get

in contact with you.

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Maybe they want to follow

you on social media.

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I'm going to give you the last few minutes

to share all that great information of

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how they can do that, and off you go.

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Joshua N.: Yes, of course.

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You can learn more about me and take

advantage of the free resources on my

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website, including my top three high

protein ,recipes at joshnoland.com.

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It's j o s h n o l a n d.com, and

you can also contact me there.

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You can find my books.

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You can find my social media links.

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It's all there.

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Joshua: Josh, I have to say, I'll, first

off, put these all in the episode notes.

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You are my counterpart in many different

ways, not just by name, because I feel

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that we need to have that consistency, and

you have brought a model for us, even with

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using protein, as a way in which we can

go towards our goals, and I've always said

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on this show, and I've even said that many

of my clients, there is no one right path.

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There are many multiple right paths.

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The wrong path is to not do anything,

and I think that this is where the

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intersection happens today, especially

if you are listening to this, is that

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if you're able to start that, even if

you have that anxiety, that depression,

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you feel like the stress is overwhelming

you, just like you've shared in your

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story, it's not the end of the world.

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It's just a matter of just taking that

small step, and I love that advice

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that you gave, because it's all about

those small steps that we can do, and

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for all those reasons, Josh, thanks for

being on Speaking From The Heart today.

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Thanks for being my brother with another

Josh name, and breaking that cycle

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today, because I was waiting for another

Josh to show up and you finally did.

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It took a while, but we got there, but

more importantly, thanks for your interest

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and help in the community of those that

are trying to be more health centric,

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and all the work that you're doing.

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Keep doing it, and I applaud you

for all that you have accomplished

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and will accomplish, so thanks

again for being part of the show.

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Joshua N.: Thank you, Joshua.

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It's been a real pleasure.

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Joshua: I want to thank Joshua again so

much for being part of the show, sharing

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his story of how he's overcome, not only

his weight loss journey, but now he's on

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a mission to inspire others, and to help

them along the way, through coaching,

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guidance, nutrition, planning, and so

much more, trying to get to the other

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side, and I think that we can learn so

much about being overweight, not being

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physically fit, because I, personally,

have struggled with this ever since I was

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a kid, and I made 2025 the year in which

I really want to get myself back on track.

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I know that that might be a lofty goal,

and I might not quite make it, but I

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want to have reasonable steps that I

take that will help me strive towards

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that positive direction, and that's what

I need to do for myself, but for other

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people, maybe even you, my listeners,

it's about just making that effort,

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having that accountability, changing the

inputs, as we just literally talked about

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in our last monologue episode before

this interview today, of how it is that

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we could change not just those inputs,

but also how they can release different

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outputs as well, but when you feel

depressed, it takes everything out of you.

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It has such a energy sucking feeling

that even when you try to get yourself

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back on track, when you try to push

yourself into that positive direction,

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when you say to yourself that you're

not going to be that person that you

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once were, it's still not easy to do.

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Mental health diseases, like depression,

can sap everything out of you, so

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you need to have better mechanisms.

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You have to have a better support system,

and you have to learn about what it

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is that is really holding you back,

so that you're not held back anymore.

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It can be challenging to see where those

different things are, and I encourage

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you to go get tested, go see your family

doctor, go see a nutritionist, if you

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will, to help you with analyzing your

numbers, seeing where those things

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are, because when I did that a number

of years ago, after I tried to end my

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life, I learned so much about my body,

and I started to realize that I was

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lacking a lot of the vital nutrients and

minerals for myself so that I get myself

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back on track, but there's a variety of

strategies, and Josh's strategy is one

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of many that I'm sure that we've heard,

one time or another, trying to figure

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out whether it will really work for us,

and it's okay if it doesn't for you.

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Maybe there's different nutrient

needs, maybe there's different

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minerals that you need.

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Maybe there's a different lifestyle that

you have, but it's all about starting

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out slow, mastering what it is that you

need to master, that recipe for success,

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and being able to create quantity

over the quality in the beginning.

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Even just reaching a couple of the

macronutrients that you need, even

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just trying to get the opportunity

to find somebody that will help you

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with that accountability strategy,

is a big blessing in itself.

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Even eating protein, which

you might be thinking, "Well,

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what happens to vegetables?

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What happens to fruits?

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Aren't those important as well?"

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Again, this is just one strategy, and

it has worked for Joshua, and being able

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to become better with where he is today.

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It doesn't mean, though, that you

start to starve yourself, that you

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throw yourself off because you think

that that dream, that possibility of

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losing weight, is impossible to have.

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It's just like that with any

lifestyle that we choose.

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If we are not willing to at least take

a dip in the pool, trying to see if it

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even works in the beginning, how will we

ever know, and I think that's why Josh's

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pillars: nutrition, fitness, and recovery,

is really something that he had to master

525

and figure out in his own adaptation.

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Nutrients, especially, as

I've even said, you have to be

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realistic about what you put in.

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You can't have a bad diet.

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You can't just eat meat and

then say to yourself, "Oh!

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I want to have those bag of

potato chips, or I want those

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tortilla chips dipped in salsa."

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Now I want to go and eat some of those,

especially as I'm trying to now cut back

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on those in the new year, but even then,

if you think about fitness, trying to also

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get the balance of exercise, operating

from a caloric deficit, so that you

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are actually telling your body, "Yes!

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I'm feeding you, but now it's time to

also supplement that with what you have

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stored in your body.", building in those

chemical balances are super key, super,

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super key, in order for you to do that.

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Once you have the nutrition and

the fitness, it's really about your

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recovery time, not just in the way

in which you rest your muscles, which

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most people forget that it's not

just about the muscle recovery, the

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physical aspect of all that lactic acid

that's trying to be pushed out of your

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body, but it's also about the mental.

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It's about what you put inside yourself:

that positive mindset, the breathing

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exercises, all the aspects that Josh

talked about today is something that

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I resonate so deeply with and I try to

focus on, not just with my individual

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clients, but working in groups,

working with businesses, and doing

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my workshops and speaking engagements

as I'm given those opportunities.

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When we have all those pillars,

we can still be set back.

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We can have medical setbacks

that might be from our genetics.

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The things that we haven't discovered

about ourselves, because they

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haven't been told about ourselves.

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Our body needs rest, and if we're not

able to give that rest for proper time,

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for proper nutrition purposes, that

balance, which is certainly key, is not

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going to be the key when you're messing

it all up, and it's not necessarily about

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you messing it all up, but you let the

inputs and the outputs mess everything up.

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Do you want to stuff your face?

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Do you just want to continue

doing that, or do you want to

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just be consistently stressed out?

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I'll tell you that those were

always the questions that I asked

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myself, and I always answered, "Yes.

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I want that to happen to me.", and

I freely did that with no recourse,

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not a care for the world, because

honestly, I didn't love myself.

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I didn't like who I was, and it doesn't

mean that I still don't struggle

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with it today, because we all have

lapses, and it's okay to be human.

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It's okay to speak about this,

because, essentially, even speaking

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from your heart, the main premise

of why we even do this podcast, is

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to be authentic versions of who we

are, even when it comes to our diet.

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Even when it comes to the struggles

of trying to stay on that plan,

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what it would mean so that we can

actually enjoy what the health

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benefits are, instead of worrying

about all the negative consequences.

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You don't need to be overwhelmed anymore.

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That's really what Josh is trying to

say, especially when it comes to dieting.

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Walking!

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Even just doing that, which is something

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after all these years, can be a great

way to release natural endorphins, being

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able to jumpstart the muscles in your

body, and start that recovery process,

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that third step, just for healing

some of the other parts while you are

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expending energy to burn, but I have

to say above all else that Josh talked

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about today, is about the coaching.

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It's about the ways in which we

can help each other to become

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accountable, to be able to help.

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Now, the question becomes,

will you even try?

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Will this be yet another episode that goes

by and you let yourself wonder, "What if?

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What if I am able to

try a protein lifestyle?

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What if I'm able to really balance

what my needs are, dietary wise, mental

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health wise, physical wise, and being

able to put those all together into

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inputs and outputs that will push me

into the direction that I want to go?"

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There's nothing wrong with accountability,

and I've been stressing this so much

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that I sometimes feel like it's a broken

record, but yet, when we are really faced

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with it, that's when real change begins.

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I've seen many people walk away, thinking

that they can handle it all by themselves,

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not realizing that there's many different

perspectives, and it doesn't mean that

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I'm withholding that information, but

I'm giving people that opportunity, that

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space to spend their time, their money,

and their resources, so that they can

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get quality advice, being able to help

them to get to where they need to be.

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That's what you're paying for, and

that's what Josh is asking you to

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pay for: all that research, all that

time, all that effort that got him to

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where he is, and there's nothing wrong

with being able to share that wealth,

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especially when you know it's worth.

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I know these lose weight, get results

fast schemes, especially when it comes

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to the exercise industry, have really

turned us off the last 50 years, and

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I say 50 years because I remember even

infomercials back in the 80s saying

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that you can lose all this weight.

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You can try to do all these things,

and it will make you feel much better,

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but even as a society that has taken a

big step back from being more active,

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because our jobs are not as active as

they used to be because of automation,

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technology advances, and so much more,

why wonder we have a crisis in obesity!

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Why wonder our kids don't get

enough exercise every single day?

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Why wonder it is such a frustrating

statistic to see that fast food,

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fatty acids, all these imbalances with

cancer, diabetes, emphysema, all these

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areas in which are caused by alcohol

use, drug use, smoking, tobacco, all

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those different ingredients, all those

different inputs, cause the outputs

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that we are now experiencing, but it

doesn't have to be that way anymore.

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Depression is scary; something that

I've lived through, and I can tell you

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by first hand experience what it means

to get to that other side, but I will

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tell you that it's the journey that will

continuously pop up if you're not willing

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to continue to work on yourself, and

that's what I'm trying to do even to this

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day, your podcast host, so be like the

Joshes today: both the guest and the host.

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Do something that will develop that

control, even if you just experiment and

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dip your toe into the pool of what it

looks like to have a protein lifestyle.

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It can help you with these pillars: your

nutrition, your fitness, your recovery.

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Even if you have things that set you

back medically, are those still things

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that you can have adjustments to?

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You can modify the exercise.

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You can modify the diet, even the

recovery, so that you are able to

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feel like you're making progress.

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Can we help you with getting

to where you need to be?

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That's really what this is about.

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You don't have to suffer alone

anymore, because we are here

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for you, both Joshes included.

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Even then, when your body has to

reset, it has to start somewhere,

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and I think that even if you

take the smallest of feats today.

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Even if you're still struggling to

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I think that even when you feel a

little stressed out, and you're trying

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to not be as overwhelmed, know that

there is already a playbook waiting

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for you to try to take action on.

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It doesn't take that much more effort,

except if you're not willing to put that

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effort in, and I think that's a whole

other type of conversation that we can

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tailor that approach to, if you're just

willing to be authentic and realize

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that you're not have to suffer anymore.

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We are here to help you, not only

every step of the way, but to help you

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with your nutrition, your exercise,

and your ability, more importantly,

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to recover, because that road to

recovery is something that I would

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love all of us to start today.

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Thanks for listening to episode

number 184 of Speaking From the

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Heart, and I look forward to

hearing from your heart very soon.

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