Shownotes
We have an engaging conversation with Kyle Morris, the entrepreneurial force behind The Golf Room and The Golf Room Everywhere. His journey from a professional golfer to a mentor and business owner is nothing short of inspiring, and we're thrilled to share some of his insights with you.
From Golf Pro to Entrepreneur Extraordinaire
Kyle Morris has taken the fundamental lessons of golf—patience, practice, and perseverance—and applied them to his thriving business ventures. After spending years on professional golf tours across 20 countries, Kyle realized his passion was not only in playing the sport but in teaching it. This revelation became the catalyst for building The Golf Room, a premier golf instruction facility in Dublin, Ohio.
Building a Business Beyond the Tee
What stands out in Kyle’s journey is his ability to pivot and innovate. His decision to leverage technology led to the creation of The Golf Room Everywhere, an online platform that offers virtual golf lessons globally. By marrying his love for golf with entrepreneurial acumen, Kyle has expanded his reach far beyond the physical confines of his local facility. As he puts it, “Just launch it, and figure it out.”
Key Takeaways for Entrepreneurs:
- Embrace Imperfection: Don’t wait for your idea to be perfect before launching. Take Kyle’s advice—start when you’re 70-80% ready and refine as you go.
- Teamwork Makes the Dream Work: Success is often a team effort. Kyle’s experience with mentorship and collaboration underscores the importance of surrounding yourself with trusted advisors.
- Vision and Purpose: Whether on the greens or in the boardroom, having a clear vision and a purpose-driven approach can be the defining factors of success.
- Learning from Failure: Kyle epitomizes the concept of “failing forward.” Each setback is a learning opportunity, driving you closer to your goals.
Kyle’s story is a testament to how passion, combined with a proactive mindset, can translate into entrepreneurial success. Whether you're a golf enthusiast or an aspiring entrepreneur, his journey offers valuable lessons on perseverance and innovation.
We hope you find Kyle's insights as motivating as we did.
Empowering Moments
00:00 Entrepreneurial Journey Insights Podcast
04:14 Augusta Visit Regret and Resolve
08:04 Entrepreneurial Journey to Golf Success
11:07 Action Over Talk: Just Do It
13:33 Entrepreneurial Teaching Motivates Growth
17:45 Personal Growth: Balance Encouragement and Reality
21:34 Embracing Risk in Entrepreneurship
24:12 "Prioritizing Trust Over Performance"
25:46 Evolving Team and Time Management
29:29 Innate Responsibility Discussion
34:07 Why Opening Florida Facility Fails
35:55 Passionate Commitment in Entrepreneurship
40:21 Team Dynamics: Influence vs. Autonomy
44:14 No Regrets in Life
47:22 Golf Tips and Podcast Info
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Glenn Harper, CPA, is the Owner and Managing Partner of Harper & Company CPAs Plus, a top 10 Managing Partner in the country (Accounting Today's 2022 MP Elite). His firm won the 2021 Luca Award for Firm of the Year.
An entrepreneur and speaker, Glenn transformed his firm into an advisory-focused practice, doubling revenue and profit in two years. He teaches entrepreneurs to build financial and operational excellence, speaks nationwide to CPA firm owners about running their businesses like entrepreneurs, and consults with firms across the country. Glenn enjoys golfing, fishing, hiking, cooking, and spending time with his family.
Julie Smith, MBA, is a serial entrepreneur in the public accounting space. She is the Founder of EmpowerCPA™, Founder of PureTax, LLC, COO for Harper & Company CPAs Plus, and Co-host of the Empowering Entrepreneurs podcast.
Named CPA.com's 2021 Innovative Practitioner of Year, Julie led Harper & Company's transition to an advisory-focused firm, doubling revenue and profit in two years. She now empowers other CPA firm owners nationwide through consulting and speaking, teaching them how to run their businesses like entrepreneurs. Julie lives in Columbus, OH with her family and enjoys travel, coaching basketball, sporting events, and the occasional shopping spree.
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Transcripts
Hi. I'm Glenn Harper, CPA and owner of Harper and Company, CPAs Plus, and partner in Sewell Consulting. In each episode, my co host Julie Smith, Harper and Company's practice manager and partner in Sewell Consulting, and I will interview a different guest about their entrepreneurial journey. The podcast features interviews with business owners, AKA entrepreneurs, who bring intriguing and entertaining clarity to the entire entrepreneurial journey, giving others confidence to build their business. Our goal is to provide actual value to you, the entrepreneur, to help you do business or build a business. Every entrepreneur deserves to enjoy the journey. Learning from others offers valuable insight and inspiration. We want to provide insight on the why, the how, the shortcuts, and the value add that many entrepreneurs wish they would have had identified at the onset of their journey.
Glenn Harper [:Sit back and enjoy the journey. Well, everyone. Welcome to another edition of Empowering Entrepreneurs, The Harper Company Way. This is Glenn Harper.
Julie Smith [:Julie Smith.
Glenn Harper [:And we've got a special guest today. We've got this guy named Kyle Morris, a fellow entrepreneur who's the owner of the golf room and the golf room everywhere. Headquartered in Dublin, Ohio, not Dublin, Ireland for all our Saint Patty Days fans out there. Welcome, Kyle. How are you?
Kyle Morris [:Hey, Glenn. Thanks for having me. Appreciate it. Hey, Joe.
Glenn Harper [:You bet. He's a serial entrepreneur who's always looking for an opportunity to put a skill set to use. He's one of those, psychos, like most of entrepreneurs. In his spare time, he dedicates his time and passion to his wonderful wife and children. Even though he has the stature of a soccer player, he has the skill set of being one of the top golfers in the world as well as having a panache for being one of the top 50 golf instructors in the world as well as the number one instructor in Ohio. Is that true?
Kyle Morris [:Yep. Been, I played professional golfer, what would have been about, eight to nine years, and then played forty weeks a year in 20 countries with kids and wives and or wives. Wife. There's only one. Good.
Glenn Harper [:All of us all
Julie Smith [:spit his coffee out.
Glenn Harper [:Yeah. How about that? Alright.
Kyle Morris [:So we live in Arizona and played forty weeks a year, in 2014. And then my wife said because we were traveling the first six months of, my firstborn, Adler, for his life, he was sleeping in hotel rooms. So he was born June 9. We left June 23, and he didn't sleep in his own bed till the, November. And then that next year, she goes, that's not happening anymore. So then we we moved home back to Ohio from Scottsdale, where I'm originally from, still playing, and then started teaching and kinda felt God moving me into a different direction, which is where you and I had all of our
Glenn Harper [:And here we are.
Kyle Morris [:And now we're doing this.
Glenn Harper [:Well, as a fellow, golfer myself, I'm, I'm probably I could probably get within 18 strokes of you on a on a on a round. But one of my you know, knowing that the Masters is just around the corner Yeah. That means tax season's almost over for me. So that's how I've been managing tax seasons for the last thirty three years is, Masters, oh, I got another week of tax season. Right. Right. So I I had took a survey, and I found, some people. And I'm like, give me some questions that you would like to ask, you know, a golfing person like a Kyle.
Glenn Harper [:And this is what came back, so I don't I don't know. Is it true that when you're a touring professional, you witnessed so many hackers on the golf course that you felt compelled to give up your golfing career to teach hackers how to play 18 holes under seven hours while straightening out their slice. Yeah.
Kyle Morris [:Kinda like that.
Glenn Harper [:That's what you did. Alright.
Julie Smith [:And These are really Glenn's questions. Right. Really He
Kyle Morris [:actually they're just personal conviction questions. He goes, am I okay if I play in seven hours and shoot a 10?
Glenn Harper [:This is, this is not about me. I'm telling you. Do you, prefer to wear the tight fitting golf attire to hide your physique, or or do you like to wear the baggy clothes to hide your physique like we wore in the nineteen eighties?
Kyle Morris [:Well, sun's out, guns out.
Glenn Harper [:So I'm one of those guys. Alright. Polyester and to hell with the cotton. Alright. I get it.
Julie Smith [:That's what slows Glenn down on his golf game is the baggy clothes from 1980. Right.
Glenn Harper [:But they're so comfortable.
Kyle Morris [:Yeah. The cutter and bucks with that they used to wear in the Ryder Cup back in 1985.
Glenn Harper [:Ashworth is so comfortable.
Julie Smith [:Ashworth. Ashworths.
Glenn Harper [:Was golf an excuse to walk around chasing a ball while talking to yourself so no one could question you being an introvert?
Kyle Morris [:Definitely not an introvert.
Glenn Harper [:Okay.
Kyle Morris [:That would be one thing that no one could ever say that I was was an introvert.
Glenn Harper [:Good. What's your dream golf course to play?
Kyle Morris [:Definitely be Augusta. It was one of those things when I was playing. I said I was never going to if and I I was offered it once and turned it down being a moron back when I was playing, and I said, if I'm gonna go to Augusta, I'm either gonna go, at that point, as a player, and then I was working and then when I started teaching, I was working with a PGA Tour player who won, and then but that was the years during COVID, and it just didn't work out, and blah blah blah. But I wanted to always go as a player or a coach, but now if someone asked me, I go I'm going. I gotta
Glenn Harper [:tell you that that is that's an amazing conviction because that's like saying, hey. I I'm that good. I should be down there and earn my way on there.
Kyle Morris [:Yeah. It's like a way to reward myself.
Glenn Harper [:Yeah. That's so cool.
Julie Smith [:But beyond that, what was your favorite course you played as a player?
Kyle Morris [:There was a course in Montevideo, Uruguay that I played. It was basically a a course in the middle of the city, which actually just so happened to be the week where I walked the streets for about four hours and said, I'm done. So it was an amazing week. I, like, walked down the street with my bag. So imagine someone walking down the middle of New York City with your golf bag on.
Glenn Harper [:Seems kinda normal. Yeah.
Kyle Morris [:It's a normal thing. And then, that week, I ended up I I had to fly down there because I wasn't in the Uruguayan Open. So I went down to qualify. So I spent $1,800, flew seventeen hours to qualify, in which in the qualifier, I have I'm I had to go into a playoff because I shot 71. It was, like, three guys got in out of a 45 guys, 44 guys teeing off or playing. So, I go down there. I have to qualify. So, I'm either going to have to, like, make a birdie, like, in this playoff hole, or I have to call my wife and say, hey, by the way, I spent $2,000.
Kyle Morris [:I flew down here. I'm not even in the event. I'm flying home. So so I ended up going qualifying, playing, you know, I did okay, but that was kind of the week where I just said, you know, I'm done.
Julie Smith [:What was that moment, though, as you walked those streets?
Kyle Morris [:I think it's to be honest, it was there was some, you know, Wesley and I just having discussions, and it was hard for Wesley, you know, rightfully so. She had two young kids at the house under the age of two, raising them by herself, essentially, and I'm on the road thirty weeks that year. And, I was just like, this is not what I I and she, you know, this is not how I see the next twenty years of my life going because I want to be a father. So, so that was in 2014, and then that winter, I started teaching in '20, like December and January of twenty fifteen. And then by about a month and a half in, I was teaching like twenty hours a week, and it just grew faster than I want. But what really happened, which is really the people that are
Glenn Harper [:listening to this, what they
Kyle Morris [:want to kind of know about, was, essentially, the way it worked is when I moved home from from Scottsdale, this this buddy of mine, he was more of an acquaintance, he goes, hey. One of the deals with my wife was, hey. If we move back to Columbus, I need to be able to build, like, an indoor facility. One of my good buddies was Kevin Strelman, and he had, like, a man cave in his basement. So I said, hey. We're I need to build a man cave. Like, you can't play professional golf and, like, hit balls at, you know, Sports Ohio or Westville driving range. Right? Like, they can't be my my way of getting on tour.
Kyle Morris [:So, so when I came home, he goes on on my way back, he goes, hey. I've got this little place, like, this little room that you could practice out of. And I was like, oh, wow. That saves me $50,000. That's amazing. And And then when I was there, I started hitting balls, and he goes, hey, you know, if you want, we should get people you could teach some lessons on the side, because, like, you can only practice inside for two hours, and then, like, what else are you gonna do?
Glenn Harper [:Get bored.
Kyle Morris [:And then and then he goes and then he goes, if you want, we could also, like, get people to rent this bay out to, like, hit balls and practice. And I'll just $1 that in his words, he's like, basically, $1 is better than no dollars. I'm not gonna do it. So if you want it, we'll just split the profit $50.50. So I was like, So, like, at that quick moment, like, my brain started to go, like, switch gears into massive entrepreneur mode, and I would go to, like, restaurants, and I knew that every customer that called the phone was basically worth $1,257 in lifetime value. So I would go to dinner like Hyde Park, and I'd accidentally leave a, like, flyer or brochure in the bathroom thinking maybe they'll see it, and they'll be like, oh my gosh. I'll call this place, this looks amazing so like I just started to do this and then I just went into Overdrive that was in the spring and summer of twenty fifteen and then I went to him and said hey, I actually just wanna buy all your assets and I'm gonna build this thing out and now we've got I've got it went from one bay in a in a CrossFit gym in a kitchen to then I opened it in 2016 with one bay, then we went to two bays, and then three bays, and then six bays, and then seven bays, and then now I've got which I will unveil soon down the road, but I've got a really, really big thing in store. I took the whole thing online, which is called, which you had mentioned, Glenn, called the golf room everywhere, where we have 18 coaches teaching full time online.
Kyle Morris [:We teach 5,000 lessons a month all over the world. I think 17% of our base comes from Europe. I bought another company called College Golf Guide, which is kind of like a it's another business in regards of junior golfers to help placement to help them find the right schools, and then I've got I'm in the midst of, negotiating buying another company, which could happen in the next thirty days.
Glenn Harper [:Do do you feel like you should So,
Kyle Morris [:a serial entrepreneur might
Glenn Harper [:be a
Kyle Morris [:good Do
Glenn Harper [:you feel like you should get some help with this? I mean, because this is
Kyle Morris [:That's why you're here.
Glenn Harper [:That's it. Because it's it's a funny thing when you see an entrepreneur and, you know, they get the the bug. And and, obviously, the commitment to be an athlete or playing golf and what it takes the mental grind to do that probably gave you, I guess, the confidence in your own abilities to go out and and be an entrepreneur because you're like, well, I'm not gonna fail at this. I'm I'm gonna just do something different. I'm gonna nail it. I mean, would
Kyle Morris [:you agree? I think that for me, and this sounds I don't know. It sounds weird, but there's two things that kind of reflecting because I, you know, I I reflect a lot about a lot of this stuff is that I think that for the business side of things compared to golf, golf was different in the fact that you could practice your face off, and it doesn't necessarily mean you win.
Glenn Harper [:That you can't tell me that. Jesus. Everybody believes that they practice
Glenn Harper [:a little bit.
Kyle Morris [:To the to the podcast I did today, you could sometimes, you have to be good, and you also need a little bit of luck. So, for business, business was a little bit more like school. Like, you know, I worked really, really hard at school. I never got a b in my life. And it was just like, if you study, you get an A. And if not, like, you're just not
Glenn Harper [:So you got Cs? Is that what you're saying? Never got a B?
Kyle Morris [:So so for work for business, it was kind of like, if I just work harder than everybody, and, you know, apply and continue to study and learn and stuff like that, I'll just I'll win the race because it's just it's kind of, you know, hard work actually goes a really long ways. And I think that the world, which is why the entrepreneurs that are listening to this, why they are entrepreneurs, is there's people who talk about doing things and then there's people who actually do things. There's a lot of the world is filled with people who talk, but very few people actually do. They go, man, I'd really like to do that. It's like, well, just They never do that. Man up and just do it already. Because you have to just like golf, like, you have to have you can't have a fear of failing to where the point is you have to understand what the bottom of the pit is. So in my heart of hearts and soul of souls, if I go, you know what, Glenn? Like, if the golf room fails and the golf room everywhere fails and college golf fails and this other business fails, you know, Les and I will just go live in a little 750 square foot house with our three kids and, like, God is good.
Kyle Morris [:That's okay. I'm okay there.
Glenn Harper [:Van by the river and you'll be fine. That's all he's doing.
Julie Smith [:But don't you think, though you know, I think we see a there's a thing with entrepreneurs. You're never gonna fail. That would happen.
Kyle Morris [:Find something else.
Julie Smith [:You'll find something else. And I think you're just gonna pivot no matter what because you're that's the way your mind works.
Kyle Morris [:Right. And I think that there's a little bit of correlation between being an entrepreneur and a professional golfer and the fact that professional golf, like, you go to Uruguay and you go, oh my gosh. Like, this week, if I play good, I could win a million dollars in four days.
Glenn Harper [:That's not bad.
Kyle Morris [:That's pretty good. And then you go with an entrepreneur, you go, man, if I just, like, change the the copy on the website and, like, create this, like, catchy headline, the conversion rate could go from 4% to five and a half percent, which is worth, like, a million dollars, and all I did was change the scripting. And it's like so it's it's almost like this it's I don't wanna say it's like gambling, but it's like it's like there's just these little tweaks that you can do that change the whole thing, and then your life just changes overnight.
Glenn Harper [:It's more controllable, I would suggest. Like, you you you it's more predictable.
Kyle Morris [:Yeah. I mean, I always say, like input output. Like, you and I talked about this. I would much rather invest in myself in a business and go buy a business for a million dollars than put in a million dollars into Apple stock, which I have no control over. Right?
Glenn Harper [:Other than we use their product.
Kyle Morris [:And Hold on. I gotta check
Glenn Harper [:my phone.
Julie Smith [:Phone. Thing. And then there's three sitting on this table right now.
Glenn Harper [:So So the the one thing about when you, know, when people start as an entrepreneur, they'll go, hey, I wanna be I wanna do this thing. And you, it basically was, I wanna teach. I wanna teach people. And deep down, it probably is like, the more I teach, well, maybe back in my mind a little bit, maybe I can find something that'll make me better, that I maybe can try the golfing thing again. But, ultimately, you're like, look. This is probably my superpowers teaching people. I can motivate people. I get them to believe that they can achieve something better than they thought they could from an instructor standpoint.
Glenn Harper [:Right? Well, when you're running as an entrepreneur, don't you feel like, at some point, you're like, I'm gonna teach all these people, and then you realize, well, I don't have any more hours in the day. Right. I can only teach maybe a guy like you, 22 lessons as an hour of pop a day. I gotta have two hours to sleep, but and you can't do any more than that. I know.
Julie Smith [:That seems worse than touring.
Glenn Harper [:Literally, it had to be. And so at some point, you said, well, I'm tired of I can't just do business and just do lessons. I have to convert this to building a business. When did that light bulb hit for you? When did you realize that?
Kyle Morris [:Probably in the fourth conversation you and I had. Stop working on in your business, Kyle. Start working on your business. So, yeah. For me, coaching really, you know, as cliche as it sounds, coaching and golf, golf is really just the vessel to, pour into people's lives, to really form their character. Because, I mean, you can talk there's a lot of things in regards to hard work, The illusion of instant gratification. All these different things. And we have an Elite Junior Academy, which is really the bread and butter of what we're doing.
Kyle Morris [:We're working with 40 kids. I see them twelve hours a week and it's allowing me to really make it so that they're successful in life. So they're not a bunch of sayers but actually doers. So, golf was really just the vessel for me to like pour into people's lives. And that's really the, as Napoleon Hill says, the definite I think it's the definiteness of purpose that I that I why I'm doing what I'm doing. And then to the point, you're you're absolutely right of the fact of, like, your hours are I mean, I'm booked through June.
Glenn Harper [:I tried to get a lesson. I I I was denied.
Julie Smith [:You didn't make it to the website. That's why.
Glenn Harper [:And it's like, Kyle does not work here. I was like, what? They just
Kyle Morris [:So, yeah. So so, there gets to a point where you just go, okay. Well, like, I've gotta I've gotta do more. That's why I keep doing this these these, you know, expansions and buying business because I have to as an entrepreneur, which I think most of us all are, I have to see what the ceiling is. And if I don't see what the ceiling is, I I don't even know if I can live myself.
Glenn Harper [:So it's
Kyle Morris [:like, I'd rather fail and see what the ceiling is than not try and just be be like, I could very well just chill out and say, hey. Like, life is good. Like
Glenn Harper [:We've had that conversation. That's never gonna happen. Just an insatiable appetite. Now some entrepreneurs like to just do this thing, and they're they're good with it, and they just milk it, and it's fine. But other ones, they're just they're just wired differently. And you're that guy, right, where it's like, everything is an opportunity. And look, what I wanna go back to this one thing that you said. So golf is a a most amazing, sport, bonding, whatever you wanna call it.
Glenn Harper [:Golfers get it. Non golfers don't. Mhmm. And if you can get in the golfing club of understanding what golf is, it is it is all about life. It's really about relationships. It's character. It's, you know, challenging yourself. It's overcoming adversity.
Glenn Harper [:It literally is a metaphor for everything in life golf is, and I think that's why there's such a popularity of it. Sure. And if they can make it so it doesn't take a hack or seven hours, it would be great. Right. But it just doesn't. It just takes a long time. And do you find that, when people come in to get a golf lesson this is this is what I find talking to entrepreneurs all the time or clients that they don't really wanna talk about the golf per se. They wanna talk about it makes them better as a person by being understanding golf better and challenging themselves and overcoming adversity.
Glenn Harper [:They come out of, like, the therapy session. I mean, I see it when I talk to clients. They come out, like, they feel better about stuff, and all we did is do this one little thing. Do you feel like somebody comes out of there, and they feel better about life because they just talked about golf?
Kyle Morris [:I think that sometimes it's really depending upon the person and where they are in their journey. I mean, there are sometimes, which I think is really cool on my in on the lesson tee that it in in the lesson tee and the fact that I don't really care I would I don't really care who you are. Right. Doesn't matter. I work with some really, really, really, really successful people. And it's like, when you're in the bay, like, I'm the boss and you're not, so just be quiet. Right? And there's something to be said about sometimes you need to encourage and love and nurture the human because they feel a little bit down and blah blah blah. And then there's sometimes where you gotta be like, I don't know what world you live in, but like, you can't, you know, like, you can't not work and then still make a million dollars a year.
Kyle Morris [:Like, that world doesn't exist.
Glenn Harper [:What are you talking about? I see that on TikTok all the time.
Kyle Morris [:Right. So, like, it's it's kind of, it really just depends on the person of where they are and reading the human reading them and their character and where they are in their journey of, like, what are the words of life that need to be poured into this kind this person? Whether it's, you know, encouraging and loving or it's like, no, you actually, like, need to get torn into a little
Glenn Harper [:bit. It seems like there's this, you know, it's golf is the epitome of one of my favorite sayings. It's, you know, it's not what happens to you. It's how you react to it. And golf is a, literally, a MMA fight for 18 holes against yourself. Yeah. The the elements are irrelevant.
Kyle Morris [:It's interesting because if you play golf for five hours, you actually only hit a golf ball for one minute. And then if you think about the routine of, like, thinking about how to play the shots and blah blah blah, that's twenty four minutes. So there's four and a half hours where you're just
Glenn Harper [:Solid quantum of solace. Mental warfare. It literally is. Yeah. And, you know, it's funny. When you play golf with somebody, you really get to know a lot about that person. And again, I think it's when you work with somebody in in the business world as well, you get to see a lot about people. Because, again, they're you you get to see their true character come out of who they are and what they really think.
Glenn Harper [:But as a golfer, it's I was amazed when people spend the time and the money to go out and go play, play, not work, play around the golf, they're mad the whole time, and they leave mad. And it's the same thing in business. If you're in business and you're an entrepreneur and you're mad or you're depressed and you're mad, why are you doing it? Like, you have to change that because it's not supposed to be like that. It's supposed to be fun. Right?
Kyle Morris [:Yeah. But I think I well, I think this kinda goes into the entrepreneur in the sense of that. I think that all great entrepreneurs and all great athletes, are circled and encompassed with a body of with a with a, like, basically a halo of optimism. So, like, if Tom Brady is down by three points, right, and he's got 50 left, everybody in the stadium knows that Tom's winning. Correct.
Glenn Harper [:It's like And the other
Kyle Morris [:team knows that Tom's winning. And the fans know that Tom's winning. And when they don't win, when he doesn't win, everyone kinda looks at each other and they go, that's weird.
Glenn Harper [:Yeah. That's weird. So to
Kyle Morris [:your point, you go, well, if your business fails, you'll just figure something else out. And I go, you're right. That's why I don't really care about failing. I'll just, I don't know, I'll create some marketing agency or something. I don't know. Like, God will put something on my heart that's like, hey, do this now. It's like, alright. So so with that, whatever situation happens to an entrepreneur, right, they really have, I think, the most successful ones, they always know that whatever the gym is, they'll always get out of it.
Kyle Morris [:And there's no situation you go, hey. Like, your COO, like, you know, I'm just making something up. Like, your COO just, you know, stole $500. You go, okay. Well, I mean, that sucks, but we'll figure it out.
Glenn Harper [:We'll send a $10.99 to that rep. We'll go to jail for tax fraud. It's easier.
Kyle Morris [:So so there's always there's always something that you can there's always something that that the entrepreneur can hold on to and say, hey. Like, it'll be fine.
Glenn Harper [:Well, I think that's the the the one of the, I guess, that was the whole point of this whole circuitous, conversation is the fact that, no, what's what's the worst that can happen? It doesn't work. That's literally the worst that can happen, and so you're out of money. So guess what? You have not enough skill set or belief in yourself that you can figure out and do something else. Yeah. So, once you know the the best that can happen, which is awesomeness, and the worst is, well, I just gotta do something different, I feel like that takes the shackles off an entrepreneur to be able to just go do it. Right? And and not be scared.
Kyle Morris [:Yeah. And I think I think too it's and what you've really helped me with probably more than anybody is that is is with all of that stuff learning the art of delegating. And I think that's a really hard thing for, like, entrepreneurs to wrap their brain around of saying, hey, like, I know if I did this, maybe I could do it better. But, like, my hours are actually better spent doing something else. And then let them do this. They'll get it to 80% to completion. I'll put the I'll tie the bow on it. You know, cross the t's, dot the i's, alter something, and then away we go.
Kyle Morris [:So, I think like with there's a really really cool book. I forget who wrote it, but it's called Rocket Fuel. I think I said it to you once in a text. You know, where it talks about how every great company has like a visionary and an integrator. Right? So I think most entrepreneurs probably are really good visionaries. Doesn't mean to all of them, but it's the it's having the people that can integrate the plan of what the visionary is doing.
Glenn Harper [:To execute it.
Kyle Morris [:Yeah. And Otherwise, it's just fluff.
Julie Smith [:So on that point, when did you realize, like, hey, I need a team. I need to delegate. I realized
Kyle Morris [:When I was sleeping two hours a day.
Glenn Harper [:Literally, I think that's when it was. No.
Julie Smith [:But then how did you go about that? So once you kinda have the vision for that, how do you how did you go about doing that? Because I think sometimes, like you said, delegation. I think entrepreneurs forget that building a team
Kyle Morris [:Yeah. I think that to the point of, and it would keep circling back to this of the there's people who talk and there's people that do. So you basically if you think of, like, a, I don't know, like a bar like a graph. Right? The bottom the bottom what is the system? Doing geometry. Here we are.
Glenn Harper [:We're gonna bring it back
Glenn Harper [:to the school. I'm
Glenn Harper [:not this was not on the agenda.
Kyle Morris [:Was the bottom one, is that x or y?
Glenn Harper [:Probably the y. I don't know.
Kyle Morris [:K. So the y, think of that as like trust. And then the vertical graph, right, that's that would be performance. So it's very, very hard to get someone who's in the top corner who has high performance and trust. That's the visionary. Right? Like, that's the person who, like, they think of ideas and they initiate them and they never miss. Right? And then you have people who are like really high performers like, Hey, what did you get on your ACT? And they go, 36. And you go, What's your GPA? And they're like, 2.5.
Kyle Morris [:And you go, Oh, wow. I would almost rather, this kind of circles perfectly, I would rather be someone who, on an educational standpoint, I'd rather hire the person who got a three nine or a four point and a 25 on their ACT because they're a high trustworthy individual that I could then train to be high performance. Rather than get the high performance person that I can't ever delegate a task to, and I don't know if it's getting done. I can train performance. I can't train trust. So, like, I would so if someone says, yeah. I got a 36. And I go, what was your GPA in high school? And they go, two eight.
Kyle Morris [:I go, well, you're degenerate. Right? And, like, you're lazy. Like, you don't apply yourself. Or if someone's like, hey. I got a four one. I go, what's your ACT? And they go, I got a
Glenn Harper [:25. Let's not talk about that.
Kyle Morris [:Then I go, okay. Well, like, you know, you're striving. Right? Like, you've got a work ethic that I can, you know
Glenn Harper [:Work with. So, like, golfing is, you know, I guess, at your level as a touring professional, you probably have a somewhat of a team around you to support you. But, ultimately, when you're out on out there on the course, it's about you only, and it's you are Sure. The one. So when you go on and be an entrepreneur, and you're like, okay. I'm used to just throwing the bag over my back. I got all of this. Hold my beer.
Glenn Harper [:I I can do this. And then all of a sudden, you're like, wait a minute. I it's not that I can't. I don't want to. This is not my best value. At that point in time, like, how long did it take you in your journey of having, you know, the golf room where you said, that's it. I gotta get people in place to execute on these things that I do. How long did that take you?
Kyle Morris [:You're saying how long did it take me to get the I think the team. I think the the well, the team for me is, like, always growing. I mean, I just hired someone to take over marketing because I was we were doing a lot of the marketing. I'm, you know, I'm always doing these, oh, what are they called? I think they're XFT graphs. They're basically like time charts. Like, what do you spend your time on? So So it's always looking at these things like, okay, I'm spending three hours a day on this. I can delegate that and hire that out. You know, like, if I'm spending a lot of time, like, doing something for an academy to create, like, practice plans and stuff, like, yeah, I can do that.
Kyle Morris [:But, like, someone else could also do that, and then I can oversee it. Right? And I could actually just pay that person a salary, and then on the back end, you know, I'll end up making, you know, better decisions and spending my time more wisely. So it's I think it's I think as you're continuing to grow, you're always delegating more out, and then it's just the art of finding the right the right people.
Glenn Harper [:You're you're a very interesting entrepreneur because most entrepreneurs are not in the numbers, graphs, charts, tendencies, trends. They just have an idea and this is what they wanna do. You're very different, like, and, again, I would call you a real golfer, and I mean that as a compliment because real golfers can remember in 1993, on the back nine Yeah. At the Podunk Course, on that hole, they use this club and the weather temperature conditions, and they got this score.
Kyle Morris [:Right.
Glenn Harper [:I don't remember what I ate for breakfast this morning, but, like and I feel like I'm a okay golfer, but, like, that data that you have in your head where you're analyzing that, is that something you, learned, or is this something you just it's a you have a hobby for that, like, you just enjoy it? Because most people don't don't like the data. Entrepreneurs hate data, which is weird, but they just don't.
Kyle Morris [:Yeah. I mean, the way that I go about, I kinda have I guess, the way to articulate it, I I kinda have a very data driven math portion to my decision making, and then there is a spiritual portion to my decision making. So to the point of if I'm gonna make a decision based upon buying a business or whatever, I'm obviously gonna do the pro pro formas and figure out, like, what I need to do to make this thing work so that, essentially, I can make $1. As long as I don't lose dollars, I can sleep. Working, I don't really care. Meaning, work doesn't scare me. So I'll invest a hundred million dollars if I as long as I make a hundred million and $1.
Glenn Harper [:I want I want in on that.
Kyle Morris [:K. So so as long as so I'll so I'll use the data and use the you know, use all of the stuff to basically validate the decision. And then I'll think through it and pray through it a lot. And I feel like if my, you know, obviously, like, if I feel like I'm, working through that and, like, I feel like, you know, as of, you know, just being frank, like, as a Christian, like, if I say, hey, I'm I'm acknowledging all of these different things, and I'm kind of putting trust in what the plan is, and my heart feels attached to that, then I go, okay. Like, I'm good with the result because
Glenn Harper [:You're at peace.
Kyle Morris [:Yeah. I'm at peace. Like, if it wins or fails, like, you know, there's a plan for my life, and I'll be I'll be good either way.
Glenn Harper [:Did you, you know a lot of entrepreneurs, they don't even know they are one, and all of a sudden, one day, they are one. Do you feel like when you were a kid growing up, did you have any of these tendencies to be an entrepreneur? Not at all.
Kyle Morris [:You hear all about all these entrepreneurs that are like, I sold magazines as a six year old, and, like, you know, did all these things. And it's, like, no. I I actually never had a job.
Glenn Harper [:Ever. This is amazing. So all the entrepreneurs, you don't have to be programmed that way.
Kyle Morris [:No. I wasn't. I never had a job. I didn't have a hard upbringing. You know, like, I was a, you know, suburban, like, privileged kid. I had great parents. Like, I did not have a hard life growing up. And then but I worked really hard.
Kyle Morris [:Right? And that's a whole discussion itself. Like, you know, is that thing of that inner voice inside of you where you're a 16 year old kid and it's 10:30 at night and you go, yeah. I could stay out, but like, I think I'm gonna go home because I need to practice at night in the morning. Right? Like, my parents never actually gave me a curfew. They're like, yeah. You're they never told me I had to study because I just I just did it. I don't know. You know, it's probably one of those limited gifts that, like, you know, God gave me for that stuff.
Kyle Morris [:But, I forget what the question oh. Oh, did I but I think when I got when I when when I got the opportunity to kinda grow something, it just got it got I don't know.
Glenn Harper [:It just It resonated? Yeah.
Kyle Morris [:Just hit home.
Glenn Harper [:Did you But when
Kyle Morris [:I when I was playing, I mean, when you're playing as a tour professional, I still you used to have to go out and raise sponsorship dollars and,
Glenn Harper [:Meet and greet. No. Meet and greet and stuff.
Kyle Morris [:So it's kinda like you're running your own I mean, you're running your own business.
Glenn Harper [:You gotta promote your brand, basically. Right? So I get you're probably used to that. And, again, you're so comfortable because you how when did you start playing golf? How old were you?
Kyle Morris [:Seven.
Glenn Harper [:Seven? Man, that's pretty cool. So, yeah, at that by the time you're 15, you're already you know the routine. You know what's going on. Yeah. Do you feel did you have a at some point, did you have a a mentor or somebody that looked at you and said, Kyle, you're somebody special. Let me tell you what you need to do or try to do this, and this is gonna change your life. Did anybody ever say that to you, or do you just kinda meander through and figured it out?
Kyle Morris [:No. I think it was probably if anything, it was, it was always it was more of my parents, like, they were really one of our, I think, wholeheartedly all Morrises in my family. We're all based off, you know, the five of winke winches. We're all words of affirmation. So, like, my parents were always like, Kyle, you're gonna do great things. Like, you're bound to this. And, like, we're gonna go on vacation when we're old. And, like, you'll just pay for it all because you're amazing.
Kyle Morris [:And, like, you're gonna do great things. So, like, I had this as a child. Like, I just had a self fulfilling prophecy that, like,
Glenn Harper [:it was all
Kyle Morris [:it was all gonna be fine. So, which I think is you have to paint a vision for, like, what your life is first. And if you don't have a vision for what it is, it's very, very hard to accomplish it.
Glenn Harper [:Did you have a, dream client that you would love to coach to teach or coach? I mean, obviously, it's not me because I can't get in to see it. But is there somebody out there that you're like, man, I see that I've seen that guy in the, you know, TV or watched him play. And if I could just get ten minutes with them, I could change
Kyle Morris [:the as a tour player.
Glenn Harper [:No. Or anybody out there that you could coach and teach how to play golf better, who would you love to bring in your fold and teach them how to be the best they can be?
Julie Smith [:I'm gonna love this if you say, like, your wife.
Kyle Morris [:So if I had it's not because she wouldn't even do it. No. She'll say, Kyle, shut up. Don't talk to me.
Glenn Harper [:Do what I'm out.
Kyle Morris [:Yeah. If I had so tour player, if I had any player
Glenn Harper [:Or anybody in the room. Like, any like, who's the dream plate man? That that guy, that girl, whoever.
Kyle Morris [:I actually have I think that that helping I think I could do quite a bit on a todos in both ways. I think I think helping, I have a buddy who's good friends with Ricky Fowler. I think that if Ricky came with what with how we teach and what we do, I think we could help Ricky quite a bit.
Glenn Harper [:He's gonna hear this thing and he's gonna reach out to you.
Kyle Morris [:I think Jason Jason Day would be, you know, him and I had reached out to him. I think that he's been kinda going through, kinda trying to figure it out a little
Glenn Harper [:bit the
Kyle Morris [:last couple of years. I think I could help him quite a bit. I think that would be fun. And then on a on a personal side, there's a guy named Russell Brunson who I really like his marketing stuff. It's probably who I get a lot of my marketing stuff from. I think just hanging out with him for for a period of time is fun. But, I think it's just, you know, one thing is people are always like, hey, Kyle. Like, who do you like to who do you like to work with? You know, like, you only work with really good players? I go, no.
Kyle Morris [:Absolutely not. Like, I just like working with players who are passionate about getting better. Whether you shoot a hundred or 65, I don't really care. If you shoot 65 and, like, you're not coachable and you wanna blah blah blah, I go, I don't even wanna hang out with you. You know, so and and it so it's really just someone who has a desire to to learn. So, I mean, I just started working with Evan Turner, who played at Ohio State. I mean, he's been amazing. Like, super coachable.
Glenn Harper [:He wants to learn.
Kyle Morris [:Wants to learn. Right? He just picked up golf two weeks ago. And then, you have other people who shoot 68 or 70, and they're not coachable, and you go, I I don't wanna be around you.
Glenn Harper [:So this I have this one this other question. We didn't get to it earlier, but, you know, this is a very serious question. Why would a prospective student trust your judgment as a golf instructor, seeing how you settle in Columbus, Ohio where you can only play golf six months a year? Seems like you would be more credible if you settle in, like, Indiana or Mississippi.
Kyle Morris [:Indiana or Mississippi.
Glenn Harper [:Those are great golfing meccas. What?
Kyle Morris [:It's judgment. Yeah. Judgment. You all no. So but but I think that actually so people will always be like, I was doing a lot of stuff for Golf Channel for a while, and they're like, why don't you just go open a facility down to Florida? Both of them. I go, that's a terrible idea. And they go, why is that? And I go, because the truth is is that if I give you a lesson, Glenn, and you go out, and I give you a lesson today, and you go play tomorrow, and you're gonna try it, and you're gonna go, this doesn't work. What's the new tip? Right? Whereas in Ohio, if someone comes and they say, hey, Kyle.
Kyle Morris [:I'm gonna come take lessons like when the season starts. I'm gonna start coming in April. I go, that's a terrible idea. I go, you need to come see me in November. Right? Because November, if you see me in November or October, that actually gives me like four or five months where we can do pure motor pattern training, like, make your stuff better. So that when you hit the golf course in April or May, you're not having to think about what you're doing and how I mean
Glenn Harper [:It's natural.
Kyle Morris [:It's Yeah. It's more ingrained. Whereas, if you're like, I'm gonna get a tip in May. Like, it's it's, you know, you gotta work at it. There's no doubt that, like, if someone's like, I'm gonna get one lesson, like, that's fine. But, like, you you still have to go practice. I had a guy yesterday, who came in, and he had he had booked six lessons with he had booked six consecutive weeks of lessons with me. Right? And he came in yesterday, and he's hitting balls, and I go, listen, like, I don't really know what more to tell you.
Kyle Morris [:Like, you just need to go work at it. When you work when you set up your feedback station, your practice station, it's good, but, like, I don't have Magic's fairy dust. Like, you still have to earn it. It's no different than the entrepreneur. Like, they could call me and say, hey, Kyle. I want you to consult my business and tell me what we can do. So they do it, and I go, okay, great. You need to go do this.
Kyle Morris [:And then they call me in the next week, and they go, okay, so what should I do? I go, well, I already told you.
Glenn Harper [:Did you not do it?
Kyle Morris [:Yeah. You have to do it. So there's people that do things, and there's people that say things.
Glenn Harper [:There's no shortcuts. Right. That's a general.
Kyle Morris [:Work hard. So
Glenn Harper [:And I think probably one of the I think one of the reasons that that last question was more of a joke because it's not the fact that most entrepreneurs, they for them to be successful what they do, they have to believe passionately in what they do, that they're making a difference in whatever, and it's when you're teaching somebody, like you said, it doesn't matter what their handicap is. It's the the commitment to helping them achieve their goals as your client to help them get better. And you have to really truly care about that. Like, you can't just sort of say, well, you know, we hit a few balls. Yeah. Do this. Change your angle and whatever, and you're fine. I don't think that's how you do it.
Glenn Harper [:I think you have this holistic approach. And as an entrepreneur, when you can believe in what you do so well that you can resonate that with your clients, they're gonna be loyal to you forever. Right? I mean, I think that's
Kyle Morris [:the that's the essential part. That's what, you know, if you, I mentioned him earlier in the podcast, like, if you listen to and read any Napoleon Hill stuff, and he talks about definite definiteness of purpose. Like, there's purpose to what you're doing and the the re like, you're wholeheartedly behind why you're doing it and what you're doing and there's a vision behind it and that's that's cloud that's surrounded with this bubble of optimism. And then when you do that, you go now you're just like a freight train running down down the track, and you go get out of my way.
Glenn Harper [:It's like Napoleon Dynamite when you went up and danced in front of everybody. Just like that.
Kyle Morris [:You're gonna eat your tots.
Glenn Harper [:That's it. Yeah. I got some on my pocket. They're so good.
Julie Smith [:So I have I know we kinda talked about the mentor and what you had growing up. But now I think you serve as a mentor to a lot of young people, and I think that's a huge responsibility that maybe you don't necessarily think about. But as you become this entrepreneur and you've become relatively successful at it, do you have someone that kinda took you under their wing that kinda led you down the path of, hey, when you own a business or someone that was able to kind of walk through some of those things with you as you've kind of, you know.
Kyle Morris [:%. I mean, so, like, when I was playing, I had, I had five of the top 12 coaches in the world assembled on my team. So I had, Mike Bender as my swing coach, Stan Utley as my putting coach, James Seegman as short game, and then the team from Vision fifty four as my mental side. And they're all top 10. So you could make a very strong argument, not just saying that I had the best team assembled on grass like as a as a coaching body. I always bad rankings. So, Mike, who is basically like a surrogate father to me, I mean, I am forever indebted to that man. As my swing coach, one is, you know, he taught me, you know, basically every way.
Kyle Morris [:He created the framework and the, foundation in which I teach upon for swing stuff. But then, also, Mike's one of those guys that everything he does is very thorough, thought out, and, like, he's just one of those guys, like, he just succeeds at life. And he's super humble, and just like an amazing character. So I owe a lot to him, like, a lot to him, maybe more than anybody.
Glenn Harper [:Did you did you seek him out or did he seek you out?
Kyle Morris [:I no. I said yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I I worked with him as a player, but everything that he had ever said to me as a player when I was a player. And any with all these coaches, they basically just stuck in my brain like glue. But then just like now, like, I have a team of people who I surround myself with.
Kyle Morris [:Right? So I had Mike, Stan, James, Pien, Lynn, and now, like, I've got Glenn, and I have Mike, and I have another guy named Lauren Anderson, and I've got, you know, this other guy, Andy Hiltz, and, you know, Aaron Weir. I have these these team of about four or five people where it's like, I got a decision. Like, let me bounce it off you, and bounce it off you, and bounce it off you, and bounce it off you, and then I'll pull it all together, wrap it in my brain, and then that gives me peace in my heart that I go, hey. Like, they're on board. I'm on board. My heart's on board. The financials are on board. Great.
Kyle Morris [:Let's go. And if it doesn't work, whatever.
Glenn Harper [:You figure that, you know, as most entrepreneurs don't set that team up until later when they feel like they are successful enough to warrant or, like, it's okay to invest in that or to spend that line item. The the entrepreneurs that put that team around them sooner achieve great results quicker. It's just a compressed timetable to get what it is.
Kyle Morris [:It'd be hypocritical for me as a coach to say I shouldn't have a coach. Right? I mean, I'll invest in coaching.
Glenn Harper [:That's a mic drop moment right there. I I mean need a button or something. I don't even that is that's that's fantastic.
Kyle Morris [:So, so yeah.
Glenn Harper [:When you're on your team, is it more of a is there somebody that says to you, like, has more influence over you or power, or you feel like you still get to drive the bus, and you're just getting the background noise, and just you're driving along, and they're, like, they're talking to you, and you can just do what you do. Is there anybody that stands out on that, or is it more of an equal, weighted? Because some people have, like, this person can tell them anything, and they're gonna just listen to it. And now sometimes, they just appreciate that person telling them something, but they're really not gonna buy into it until they figure it out on their own. Do you have those kind of people on your team, or is it really just still you just driving the bus?
Kyle Morris [:Well, to be honest, I think in in a whole in a I think to be frank, like, Leslie, my wife is that person. She is the unfortunately, she's the
Glenn Harper [:She's so thin.
Kyle Morris [:She's the springboard. I the me bouncing a thousand ideas off, and she's, she really is, you know, and and this could be its own podcast in itself of, like, what what makes a great marriage. But she really does help me in creating making me, like, the best version of myself in regards to there's things that she's really good at that I suck at, and there's things that I'm great at that she sucks at. And there's things that, she helps keep me in line, and she doesn't care who I am, what I've done, how much I make. It's like, no. No. Like, you're gonna do this, and when mama says you're doing it, you're doing it. So, she's really that that person for me that has the ultimate authority.
Kyle Morris [:Like, you know, if I wanna do something and she goes, nope. Then it's like, okay. Like, my love with you is more important than this. So, and but, you know, but she's very she also understands, like, what makes me tick, so she's like, okay, I get it. You know. So she lets she also like she, you know, she she lets me run, which is which is amazing. But, you know, I've been with Leslie since I was 17, 18. So, I mean, we've been through
Glenn Harper [:Everything. Everything. Yes. Like, there's, there's one thing about being an entrepreneur, but then there's the entrepreneurs and the spouses that love them. And, like, that's a whole another, like, module of how how do you communicate effectively because I hate to tell you, but I'm pretty sure that you're spending more time working on your business than you were working while you're playing professional. I mean Yes. Hands down. Yeah.
Glenn Harper [:But somehow, you find the balance. And maybe it's not because it's the travel and all that grind, but you're still I'm little I know you, and, you know, most
Glenn Harper [:of us are all
Glenn Harper [:the same way. It's a twenty four seven proposition. You can it's really hard to turn it off. But you do have special times when you shut your phone off and you don't you're unreachable.
Kyle Morris [:You try. I think that's the hardest part of an entrepreneur is just trying to make sure that when you're there, you're there. And you're being very mindful and present. I think that's that's probably something that I'm always working on in my character to just say, hey, like, I'm with my kids. Be with your kids. And, like, when you're with your wife, like, be with your wife. And then when it's time to work, work. Right? So,
Glenn Harper [:If you're coaching me, I don't want you checking your phone to see what else is going on. I want your undivided attention. Right?
Kyle Morris [:Yeah. So so it's always it's it's that it's that balance of like of what you're doing, but at the same time, you know, it's like someone emailed me the other day, or I was talking to someone, they're like, so well, I'll send you an email. Like, what's your personal email? I go, personal email?
Glenn Harper [:Like Who's got that? What
Kyle Morris [:what's that mean? Like, my work email is my personal email, which
Glenn Harper [:it's just it's my life. So, like,
Kyle Morris [:I don't even know what you're saying. I
Glenn Harper [:can't have two emails. How do I even keep track of that? Yeah. If you have, if you could go back and do it again, because what are you, like, 48, 40 9? Yeah. What are you
Kyle Morris [:36.
Glenn Harper [:30 6. If you could go back and talk to your 21 year old self, would you do anything different knowing what you know now to get where you are, or you kinda and I guess this is for all entrepreneurs out there. There's really no regrets, but it would be neat if there was this key moment in time, you're like, man, if I just knew that then, it would have been a whole different narrative. Not better, not worse, just different.
Kyle Morris [:You know, this is gonna sound this is not gonna be probably what will spike the mic or spike the ratings, but I honestly don't have any regrets in my life. I can't honestly, from the bottom of my soul, say I don't have one thing. Like major I'm sure. I mean, there's like little tiny like, hey, you should've done this. Or like, you should've, you know, turn off not texted at that moment. I'm talking about like major life decisions where I go that can really that come to the fruition of my brain that go or or the front of my brain that go, hey, I really messed up on that one. And I think it's because of, like, what we went back to at the middle of the episode of, you know, like, doing my due diligence and lots of prayer and all that kind of stuff of just saying, hey, like, I'm good with I'm good. Right? And and realizing that because of that, if it didn't work out, there isn't a regret because I go, no.
Kyle Morris [:No. Like, I followed what my heart was saying. And like, and even though it didn't work out, it didn't work out and that was the plan. The plan was for it not to work out. And I'm okay with that. Right? Because if it didn't work out, there's some lesson that I learned through it, and then you can you fail forward from it.
Glenn Harper [:Peeve it and move forward. I feel like the tattoo on your chest that says no regurts. Probably should've I'll show you. Should've said no regurts. I I don't know why you're not pointing at that, but, again, he's sitting here in the studio showing this is really weird.
Kyle Morris [:Well, now my shirt's off.
Glenn Harper [:So Okay. Everybody, I wish you could see the visual. It's impressive.
Kyle Morris [:Sun's out, guns out.
Julie Smith [:So if you, could give one piece of advice to fellow entrepreneurs just starting out
Glenn Harper [:Mhmm.
Julie Smith [:What would you give to them?
Kyle Morris [:If I could give one piece of advice to an entrepreneur just starting out, I would say don't try to make it perfect. I think that there is this Boom. I think there is this thing in the world, especially like with certain personalities where it's like, okay. I'm gonna launch this product. I need to figure out everything that's with it, every customer support problem, every email. There needs to be a solution. It's like, no. No.
Kyle Morris [:No. No. Like, just launch it. Like, if it's 70 or 80% done, fine. And then just figure it out. Right? I mean, I launched my online business, and we did it in, like, two weeks. It was, like, COVID's coming. We're, like, great.
Kyle Morris [:Let's start online. And then we I flew a guy from Tampa. We filmed a video series. I launched it. And, you know, 5,000 lessons a month later, here I am. I mean, if I would have taken all of the time to figure out all of the things that had to take I mean, good luck. The opportunity's gone. So, like, just do it and stop thinking about it.
Julie Smith [:Which goes back to your saying and doing. Right?
Kyle Morris [:Yeah. Like, you know, just
Glenn Harper [:I think that's that's probably the best takeaway that we have, on this is is, like, don't be scared. Just do it, and it's all gonna work out one way or the other. So just keep going and have fun with it. I think that's the the key thing. Well, I appreciate you coming in today. I know you're a busy guy. Like I said, I can get you for this, but I can't get you for a lesson. So that's kinda funny.
Glenn Harper [:But, you know, maybe we like to hear our own voice. I don't know. But, any parting words you like to say, or you wanted to give a plug to your company?
Kyle Morris [:Or yeah. So if anybody would like to go, they could go on Instagram, and they can follow the golf room. They can get some free tips tips and tricks. If they go to the golf room everywhere, if they're ever looking for some on some advice and they're not in Columbus, we can do it. We do all our our online system is a very holistic approach, so that's that's great. And then go subscribe to me on Stock Shot Secrets. On Spotify, and you can listen to my podcast and figure out stories of life and what's going on.
Glenn Harper [:Life according to Kyle. Well, I appreciate you coming in to Kyle. Always always a pleasure to talk to you. If you you're a very inspirational, friend, a very inspirational character, and you're just very good at what you do. And if you wanna get better at playing golf and better in life, go see this guy because he's an amazing guy. So this is Glenn Harper.
Julie Smith [:Julie Smith.
Glenn Harper [:Everybody take care.
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