In Episode 36, of Season 4, of Driven by Data: The Podcast, Kyle Winterbottom is joined by Chris Daniels, Chief Data Officer (Corporate Bank) at Deutsche Bank, where they discuss the delineation between business and technology, which includes;

• Why organisations haven’t put data as a first-order citizen historically
• Avoiding unnecessary transformation of our data
• Finding good, opportunistic data science use cases within sales and product teams
• Why the things we built 18 months ago we’d never dream of building today
• Having the right conditions for success as a CDO
• Why you’ll never have an enduring model that is right for all situations at all times
• The move from centralised to distributed structures to align with product lines
• Why extreme centralisation doesn’t work
• Making data everyone’s problem
• Why where data is homed in an organisation can matter
• Why to be successful it has to be a topic of importance at the board/exco level
• Where it sits is irrelevant if it isn’t a topic of importance at that level
• The importance of creating a common purpose
• Why reporting lines should matter to D&A professionals if they want to grow
• Why you need to be both business and technology literate to succeed as a D&A team
• How the lines are blurring between business and tech
• The importance of cross-functional teams
• Why automation is increasing the need for better technology expertise and focus
• The importance of real-time observability
• Upskilling as someone from a non-technology background
• Why industry events are a necessity for learning
• Why process reengineering will be a key to success in a rapidly evolving world
• The importance of AI literacy at the exec level so they can reshape their thinking
• Not believing in data strategies
• The importance of explainability
• Why it’s necessary to think beyond the first-wave of GenAI possibilities

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