In this episode, Joel shares "Why Houston Homeowners Prefer Standing Seam Metal Roof Systems" and the advantages of standing seam metal roofs.

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. And welcome back everybody today.

I'm here with Jill and we're going to be talking about standing

seam metal roofing systems.

And I know that you guys are going to be super excited to learn about

this type of roofing system, because it is one of the most popular

roofing systems that homeowners are really, really investing in in 2022.

So Jill welcome.

Hi, nipple it really excited.

Love to talk about metal roofs.

We get questions about metal roofs all the time.

So this is going to be a of.

I know, I know it can't wait.

So, you know, for our audience.

So you know, they might have heard something here and there.

Maybe one of their neighbors got, a standing seam metal roof, but let's really

just dumb it down for it for everybody.

And let's, you know, let's educate them on, you know, some of the advantages

of a standing seam metal roof.

And also, you know, let's, first of all, let's start with like the basics.

Let's start with.

What are some of the different types of metal roofs that are out

there and out of what's out there, what's ideal for a homeowner for

like your residential homeowner.

Sure.

Yeah.

People call in, they say, I want a metal roof.

I'm interested in a metal roof.

How much does a metal roof cost?

And you know, you have to really break that down.

Well, there's, there's a lot of different types.

So first of all, there's typically our panel metal roof.

And then there's standing seam metal roof.

Okay.

Our panel is usually what you're going to see on like a barn or a

warehouse or something like that.

So for a nice residential home, that's not going to be an ideal solution for you.

Okay.

Then you have a standing seam metal roof.

All right.

And the big, thing to kind of know with standing seam metal roof

is, you know, what gauge is it?

Really importantly, is it concealed fastener system or exposed fastener

system and all, I mean by that is when you look at it, can you see screws,

into the top of the roof, the fasteners going through or are they hidden?

So if you can see the screws, that would be an exposed fastener roofing system.

And it's not recommended it's in fact, a highly discouraged for

a nice residential home, because those are all holes in your roof.

Those are all entry points for water.

So underneath those screws is a rubber grommet.

And after about seven to eight years, the rubber underneath there in for sure

in Houston, Texas, he is going to erode that rubber and those areas will leak.

So what you want is a concealed fastener system.

The fasteners, basically there's two ways to do.

You have your metal panel and it will have a flange on it with little slots where

you would do your screws and that would be called a nail strip, or you would use

clips, we typically install what's called a snap-lock system and they snap together.

so to cover up any of those facets,

Yeah, that's really, you know, that's really interesting because,

I wouldn't have even realized that there's two different types.

Right.

and if they are exposed, you're saying there can be leaks, which

is not what a homeowner would want.

Right.

But, but is it, is it that people are getting those because they are

trying to save money and they're, more cost-effective and they

don't know like the difference.

You call a contractor and you've heard great things about metal roofs, and you

say, Hey, my neighbor got a metal roof.

They love it.

I would like a metal roof, but if you don't know the differences,

your contractor comes and give you gives you a quote.

Maybe you get three quotes you, which is always good to do.

And one of them is far cheaper than the other ones, let's say, okay, now that one.

You just want to ask your contractor.

All right.

Is this true standing seam or is it our panel?

Is it a concealed fastener system or is it exposed?

How are you going to Fasten the panels?

Would it be nail, strip or clips?

So those are all really important questions to ask your contractor

when you're looking into.

Great, thank you for sharing that.

And what type of gauge metal should, you know, should they be using?

Sure.

So it's another great question because you know, a contractor may come out and

deliver a quote, and if he's not giving the homeowner all the information.

That's going to help them understand the differences.

They may not be comparing apples to apples, right?

So they're like, well, Hey, this is a standing seam metal roof.

This quote over here is also a standing seam metal roof.

This one is three or $4,000 cheaper.

I'm going to go with this.

You know, not realizing that they may be a different gauge.

I gauge in, you know, metal is the thickness of the metal.

So the lower, the number.

The thicker, the gauge.

All right.

For instance, 24 gauge steel is thicker than 26 gauge steel, if that makes sense.

So, we have, competitor bids or quotes all the time and I say, you know, Hey,

can I read over your, your proposal?

And I'm seeing that.

Quoting for 26 gauge or even worse, you know, like 28 gauge.

And that's just not ideal.

We recommend nothing short of 24 gauge.

So all of our proposals are 24 gauge, concealed fasteners standing seam systems.

There, it makes a big difference, obviously.

And I think that it's important when you are going to invest in a

standing seam metal roof to actually pick also the right, options,

because based on that, it's, it's going to impact the quality, right.

And, and also the durability of, of what you're getting.

So thank you for sharing that.

What's really the difference.

can we educate our audience on, why standing seam metal roof versus let's say

a traditional gimme like another example of a roof to compare it with Joel, Sure.

So, I mean the most common roofing system by far obviously is your

composite or asphalt roofing system.

Right.

And that's typically going to have a fiberglass mat.

It has a thin layer of asphalt over it.

And then it has rock or granules that acts as a UV protectant.

It's also, adds some, aesthetic qualities as well.

So you're not just staring at, you know, an asphalt.

type roof.

So the issue with that is once the rock or granules,

wash away, like they always do.

Homeowners are always saying, you know, they're always in their gutters

washing down their downspouts.

And this is usually after like 15 years, it exposes that thin layer of baskets.

and so the sun starts eating through that and you can see the fiberglass that's

when your roof is kind of shiny when you look at it, that is, you've waited a

little too long at that point typically.

And it's just a, it's a cheaper option.

It's what we've done for decades now in the roofing industry, but for homeowners

that want something that they'll never have to replace for homeowners that

want something that's going to stand out aesthetically, be really beautiful,

be extra energy efficient, but most importantly never have to replace.

Then they consider.

a standing scene, you know, steel or perhaps even aluminum, metal roof,

there's others, there's zinc and copper and other things as well.

But typically it's steel.

So 24 gauge again, concealed fasteners, standing seam metal roofing system.

And there are metal roofs that are a hundred years old.

I mean, you can go look at, so the proof is there.

let's talk a little bit about the investment, right.

You know, what's, what's the investment for a standing seam metal

roof versus, you know, tradition.

Yeah, that's one of the, obviously most common questions you get.

of course that's gonna depend on the factors that we've already discussed, you

know, the gauge and those type things.

it'll depend on what it's been painted with, which we can talk touch

on in just a second, but compared to just let's say irregular roof.

So people always want to say, Hey, how much does a metal roof?

So we kind of educate go through that.

Typically we say it's about two and a half times the cost of a regular roof.

Okay.

And, so it is an investment to your point.

It's not for everyone, right?

So we ask a lot of questions when we get to, residents and take a real

consultative approach because we want to find the best solution for them.

And this may or may not be, one of the questions, you know, is how long

do you plan to live in your home?

Because you know, it does up your resell.

They estimate you get about 65% of your investment back, you know, as far as being

able to sell it, Th that's typical with like, any type of major remodel basically.

So you're not going to usually get the entire thing back.

So ideally this is a house that you don't really want to sell.

This is a house that you want to live in.

This is your forever home, your custom home, your home, that you're going to

pass down to your kids, you know, or it could possibly even be a rental or an

investment property, a home that you.

So you haven't typical life cycle in a regular roof.

Let's say it's about 15 years.

They all like to say 30 years, 40 years, they, you know, it's lies.

They never lasts that long.

Right?

Straight.

I mean, it's beyond marketing.

It's locked, flat out.

it seems like an exaggeration, you know, just like, oh, let's just say 30.

Cause you know, it sounds good, but it may not be 15.

I may not be 30.

It might be like 17 or 18, but we'll just run it.

Yeah.

I mean, they do test in a lab to have datas so that they can't get

sued or whatever, but there was no weather conditions whatsoever.

I mean, so the fact is in actual real life weather, especially the kind we get

in Houston with the heat and humidity and storms and things like that, that 30 year

roof is going to last about 15 years.

So there's your that's really what I asked Kate, are you going to live here?

Through another roof roofing cycle, right through a roof replacement cycle.

Do you see yourself living here 15 years?

Because you don't want to have to replace this roof again in this home.

You know, you consider inflation.

Everybody's talking about that right now.

Well, it's a real thing and you know, I've seen it happen in the last 10 years.

The last 15 years, you know, roofs are double, triple with the costs back then.

And so just when you start to factor all of that in.

You know, and you consider that now the investment, the

numbers make a lot more sense.

So if this is kind of your forever home, if you see yourself living here

in another 15 years, it starts to become the wise prudent thing to do.

You know, as long as you can make the initial price work and you know, a

good contractors, typically you gotta have a payment plans and things like

that to help out make things more.

Yeah, that makes sense.

I mean, based on, how much time, how many years you plan on spending

in that home, that makes sense.

And I think that, it's also.

Less hassle for a homeowner.

If they only have to get their roof replaced one time and not do it again for

another 50 years, that's a convenience factor because it's, you know, it's

still a little bit of an inconvenience.

It's like, oh, now I have to get this done, like in, you

know, another one in 15 years.

So when you.

Factor in the time that it's going to go.

And, and also that it's going to be worked on.

You have to consider that as well.

Those are all things to consider.

let's talk about in terms of standing seam metal roofs.

I know that, they are known to be very energy efficient.

So let's talk a little bit about that energy efficient piece.

Yeah.

I mean, that's obviously another, factor when you're considering the investment.

So again, you have on your traditional composite roof, you

have that asphalt in there and it's really soaking up heat, metal roof.

Typically now are painted, you know, mill factory painted with a reflective coding.

That's helping to reflect the heat.

Also, there's breathing room between that and the day.

Okay, so it can act a little bit like a double pane window.

It, as far as that goes.

And so you have that thermal break there where that's also

increasing the energy efficiency.

So you have both of those things really at play.

Usually our customers, have about a 50, 40 to 50% decrease in their electricity

bill, which is huge savings, especially in the hot summer months here in Houston.

And then you factor in other things like, If it's going to extend the

life of the AC, because it's not having to work as hard, et cetera, you

know, and it just makes your home feel more comfortable, in sport pleasant.

So all around when, as far as energy efficiency goes.

Yeah, absolutely.

You know, what about aesthetically?

You know, now I think people, if they are into their home, they're into

home decor, they're into impressing their neighbors and having guests

over and, I've got the bigger fancier house than you kind of syndrome.

what can you tell us about that?

Like, Is it something that your neighbors are going to look at your roof and they're

going to say, wow, that's a gorgeous roof.

I want that type of.

Yeah, absolutely.

It's a, it is wow.

Factor for sure.

Very much a showstopper.

It definitely will get the attention of all the neighbors, but in a real

beautiful, elegant, custom way.

so there's tons of different colors.

You know, have a designer help you and do all kinds of, you know, really

cool things, as far as that goes, to really change the look of your home.

but it will turn heads everywhere for sure.

And people will say, wow, and, I wish I had a reflect that, you know, and they'll,

they'll end up calling and inquiring about how much it costs for instance.

So it's definitely going to be a roof that your neighbors will admire for sure.

Love that.

Love that.

And when it comes to.

fading, you know, because you're saying there's so many, you know, different

options to pick from in colors.

you know, let's talk about fading.

Does it fade over time?

And if so, what does that timeframe?

Sure.

So, there's different types of paint for standing seam metal roofs.

Okay.

Affect the cost drastically.

All right.

So fading, you really need to decide actually, is that a big issue for you?

Because if it's not, if you don't really care, if you want great

quality, energy efficiency, never have to replace it, won't leak.

And it's still going to look beautiful, but in 10 years it's

going to fade considerably.

and you're okay with that.

Then you can save a lot of.

So now a lot of people aren't okay with that.

And most of our customers.

Aren't really okay with that.

And so we have them painted with kind our 500 paint.

And what that is basically is a PVDF, it's a resin based paint and it's the

best paint that there is on the market by far blows everything else away.

They have side-by-sides.

the same building, after 10 years.

so they've done tests, obviously metal roof painted with half of it painted

with kind or half of it with painted with something more traditional, and.

It just is night and day side painted with looks almost exactly

like it did Dave one and the other side looks nothing like that.

So it's faded tremendously.

This sign, you know, is going to fade anything.

Typically our roofs that are painted with kind are, have a 40 year fade warranty.

So that's really it for your roof in 50 years, 60 years.

roof painted with kind are, you might have to repaint it, you

know, to get that day one look.

So that's pretty good as far as maintenance goes.

Yeah, that is, that is really good.

Yeah.

That's, I'm glad to hear that.

And you know, I've heard some people ask this question, and they always

ask oh, is it going to be loud to have a, you know, standing seam metal?

Yeah.

People ask me that all the time.

It definitely will not hear it when it rains.

Those they're thinking of like a 10 roof, they're thinking of a,

you know, light gauge, tin roof.

And you know, then in that case.

Sure.

but this is, if you feel 24 gauge steel, And you'll you'll understand,

that it's not going to be loud.

And, I, if it was storming heavily, you're not going to hear much more

than you do on your normal roof.

And so it's just, background noise, but, but extremely slow.

And, some people enjoy it, but it's not like what people are thinking

of, you know, with a tin roof.

And it's really loud when it rains or something like that.

That's not the case.

Okay.

Well, that's good to know.

And, you know, speaking of storming, we know that Houston

has very harsh weather conditions.

We know that hurricane season is just around the corner.

So, you know, what are some of the advantages of, uh, standing seam metal

roof when it comes to year after year, homeowners and in Houston going through,

you know, hurricane season and the harsh weather conditions and hail and wind and.

Yeah.

I mean, if it's installed correctly, this thing is hurricane proof, hail proof.

you know, no hail can puncture 24 gauge steel and the way

that we lock them together.

Okay.

So it's locked.

All the panels are locked.

So there's no way for it to lift one panel.

For instance, it would have to you're, you know, you're talking a tornado, you'd have

to lift the entire roof off, basically.

So the, the storms that come through here, the, hail that comes

through here in Houston absolutely does damage to roofs every day.

The hurricanes that come through do damage to roofs every day.

And you know, then homeowners have to pay their deductible, which

can be expensive and have to go through the hassle of getting a new.

And this has gotta withstand, it's gotta hold up to Hale.

It's got to hold up to hurricanes.

It's going to hold up to, fire, for instance, fire rated.

So as far as all of those things go, there's nothing better.

I love that.

I absolutely love that.

And what about some of the, vendors that you have partnerships with in

terms of providing the materials?

Like, can you talk a little bit about.

Yeah, absolutely.

It's, that's a good point because you want to ask your contractor

where they're getting their steel from, and you want to know where

that company is sourcing their steel.

It's very important that they're sourcing.

Us steel.

you know, I, I get in my inbox on LinkedIn constantly, solicited to purchase,

cheaper, much cheaper, Chinese steel and, it, You know, there's, it's just

that some of the manufacturing, levels of, are just not quite there yet.

Not quite up to some of the standards that we still have here.

so, you know, there's, there's definitely a lot in the market

right now being passed off.

As you know, this is, this is great steel and you can literally feel it.

You can feel the difference in your hands and no.

Man, this is strong 24 gauge steel.

As opposed to this over here, it just feels flimsy.

It feels light.

It's the same thickness, but it's not as hard.

So it's just, it's really important where it's sourced.

We buy ours from McElroy.

We love McElroy because they have over 50 years in the industry.

They're extremely reputable.

they source all us steel.

They hold trainings for contractors.

They really stand by their name.

They stand by their brand.

They have great warranties.

And you want to make sure that it's sourced from somewhere like that.

So definitely important.

Yeah.

And I mean, and for the audience, like I just, I wanted to share with them that, a

true works roofing like Joel and Laura, they put so much research and so much

time into really, really picking the right vendors to work with the right materials

to provide you like the highest quality when it comes to roofing materials.

And that's because they really are setting out to revolutionize.

The roofing industry and making sure that the end product is one that,

clients are absolutely going to be thrilled with and they're going to love.

So I think that, it's just important to share that because every vendor

that you have, every product that you've chosen, everything, even

building out the team, I think that.

Done very intentionally.

It's done, with a reason that you want to have the best product, you

want to have the best, you know, roof that you can, install for homeowners.

So that makes all the difference.

So thank you.

Is there anything else that you wanted to share, with our audience

about standing seam metal roofing?

before we.

Sure.

Yeah.

Well, I appreciate all that.

It really comes down to like, we just care a lot.

That's all, you know, we care a lot.

It's, we're not going to install anything that I wouldn't want to have

my own house or wouldn't install on my mother's house, who I love, you know?

So, that's how we treat it.

And, you know, so we, we do have very high standards.

We want only the best.

So just a couple other tips, a couple other things to look for.

So there's a common term, that applies to metal roofs.

That's called oil canning could also be called like stress wrinkles.

It's basically you look at it.

In a certain lighting or certain glare and you can see dips all in it.

Okay.

And it's aesthetically just, it just doesn't look good.

, and so you have this beautiful standing seam metal roof that you

paid a lot of money for and in certain lighting, it really looks terrible.

Okay.

So there's ways to mitigate that.

All right.

And a couple of them, I would like to share, we already

talked about using a 24 gauge.

Steel, which has got a mitigate that a couple others, one, you strike patients,

which are slight, curves or bins in the panel to make the panels stronger.

Okay.

So another one is to use what we call backer rod, if you

don't want the striations and you want to completely smooth.

But obviously you don't want oil canning either.

There is a way to do that.

So you use what's called backer rod and you put it, it's essentially

like a foam, piece that you put on the backside of the panel.

And it creates pressure because all oil canning.

It's caused by the contracting and expanding of the metal

during changes in temperature.

Okay.

So at that backer rod in the middle is going to create pressure.

Where it can't sag.

That's what, what you're kind of seeing, you're seeing dips where it's

sagging, because it's, like I said, you know, expanded and contracted.

So that's very important to talk to your contractor about make sure that

he understands that he or she and make sure that they have a good plan.

Because the last thing you want is to put up a beautiful standing seam

metal roof, and then see that effect.

It's just aesthetically not pleasing at all.

The other thing I would just point out.

Is make sure that your contractor has metal experts.

All right.

So even if they'd been roofing for years or decades, if they are

guys who do shingles for a living and they're Schindler's, the, the

skillset is completely different.

All right.

So for our metal roofs we use, and partner news guys.

Only install metal roots.

They don't install anything else.

They have decades of experience only installing metal roofs.

you know, I can teach a guy to install shingles in about three months.

So, you know, three months they can get pretty good.

We take longer than that and put them through an apprenticeship

and they started as like ground crew cleaning up and stuff, but.

About three months, I can teach somebody metals, just not the case metal.

It honestly takes years.

It's, it's a true craft that you have to be an expert at that you

have to get really, really good at.

So just make sure that your contractor is a metal expert.

sourcing it from us steel, installing 24 gauge concealed fastener system with

And then this is really going to be an investment that.

You love that you look at every day that you're proud of, that your

neighbors are jealous about that's energy efficient lasts forever.

Never have to replace it again.

and it's so just a beautiful, amazing, great option when it's done.

Right.

Yeah, that is huge.

And you know, if anyone who's listening right now, you're thinking

about getting your roof replaced.

Definitely reach out to two works roofing and ask for a consultation on

a standing seam metal roof, because you know what we're talking about today,

this is only about 30 minute episodes.

There's so much more in terms of questions that you may have in terms of, information

that you can get that's truly customized, you know, for, for your home and for your

needs and for your lifestyle, because your home and the way that you live.

I mean, it's really about your lifestyle as well.

There's a lot of emphasis, but on lifestyle.

And I think that if you're going to pick something, you want to pick the

right product, you know, to begin with, you want to pick the right roof.

You don't want to pick something and find out later.

Oh, I didn't even know about this.

And now my neighbor has this, but I've already invested all of this money into

this and, you know, done all the work.

So it's, it doesn't hurt to know all your options, even if it's something

that you can't do right at this moment.

And that's okay.

But at least when you are making that decision, you're making an educated

decision, which is exactly the reason why.

true works roofing launched the Houston roofer podcast is to educate

consumers and give them a buyer's guide experience where they can really

learn, the ins and outs of, of, you know, the different type of, roofing,

systems, the different advantages.

And.

Insider information that you're not going to get just from going

on Google and Googling something.

So, Joel, thank you so much.

I think you shared so much, detailed and important information

for our audience, so thank you.

Yeah, absolutely.

Thank you.

This has definitely been a ton of fun and excited about our next episode.

All right, we'll see you on the next episode.

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