In this episode, we interview Dr. Deborah Egerton (Dr. E). Dr. E is a Diversity, Equity, & Anti-racism Specialist, Author, Executive Coach, Keynote Speaker, and Culture Transformation & Leadership Development Expert. Dr. E. brings all kinds of brilliance and new insights on the enneagram 

[1:40] When’s the last time Dr. E’s had a good belly laugh?  

[6:30] About Dr. E’s book Know Justice, Know Peace

[10:50] Dr. E’s perspective as a Black woman in the enneagram space

[16:40] On loneliness and the current state of the enneagram community

[21:10] Dr. E’s vision of a humanity mosaic

[38:30] The Platinum Rule

[40:40] An example of a well-intentioned but counterproductive attempt to apply the Golden Rule

[45:30] How can we challenge others appropriately? 

[50:50] The centers of intelligence as bridge builders, healers and defenders

Follow Dr. E’s work : https://www.deborahegerton.com/ and buy her book Know Justice, Know Peace! 

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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”

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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Lindsey Marks, Drew Moser

Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore

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