Have you ever wanted to turn your podcast superfans into loyal customers? We are sharing with you a smart solution revolutionizing podcaster-listener interaction.
TwinBox AI, a cutting-edge platform, is designed to enhance podcaster-listener interactions and boost monetization. Dennis Beliauski and Alena Beliauskaya are the ingenious founders of TwinBox.ai.
In this podcast episode, Mathew has a lively chat with Dennis and Alena to unpack TwinBox AI. With their passion for podcasts and technological innovation, they share insights on how their platform leverages AI to turn podcasts into a dynamic, interactive experience while increasing your revenue like never before.
Dennis and Alena walk us through how TwinBox supports podcasters by turning superfans into buyers through AI-driven conversations. Additionally, Alena shares how the platform creates a seamless 2-way communication channel that turns passive listeners into engaged participants.
Tune in to learn how players in different niches—from wellness coaches to legal and health experts—can use TwinBox to connect with their audience at a deeper level and intelligently upsell premium services through non-intrusive, contextual dialogues.
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- TwinBox AI - twinbox.ai
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- Contact Dennis - denis@twinbox.ai
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Alright. Today, we are doing a company spotlight, and we are taking you to a
Speaker:very interesting piece of software that was brought to my attention by an old friend
Speaker:of mine, Joseph Berman, of our pod to pod days. We are chatting with the
Speaker:founders of TwinBox dotai, Dennis
Speaker:Belovsky and his wife, Elena Bolivskaya. Dennis and
Speaker:Elena, thank you so much for joining me today. Nice to be here.
Speaker:Yeah. Thanks, Matthew. So start us off with I
Speaker:just a quick overview. What does TwinBox
Speaker:do exactly? And and who really is your target
Speaker:podcaster that would most benefit from this
Speaker:platform? So, about a year ago,
Speaker:we started with an issue. We heard from our friends who is
Speaker:podcaster experts, that's, like, for most
Speaker:brands and businesses, like, podcast is a marketing funnel. Right?
Speaker:So, like, people put tons of efforts into growing their audience,
Speaker:but it's very tough to monetize their fan base. So
Speaker:ad's supposed to be a solution, but it rarely works for niche
Speaker:podcasts with, you know, less than, 50, 000
Speaker:listeners. So small and mid tier podcasts,
Speaker:made their revenue through their Superfans. That's about, like, 5 to
Speaker:10% of their fan base. And we, at
Speaker:TwinBox, we help podcasters to turn their Superfence
Speaker:into buyers of their premium services and programs
Speaker:through contextual AI conversations. That's like What does that mean? What
Speaker:does contextual AI conversations really mean?
Speaker:Tech. Like, so, basically, we automatically
Speaker:aggregate any content produced by a podcaster. Right? Like, we then connect
Speaker:it to a dedicated knowledge base and then with
Speaker:AI. So now AI can talk to your listeners
Speaker:in your tone, language, and voice, answer any questions.
Speaker:Like, that means contextual. So, like, they are
Speaker:able to ask any questions about any piece of content you ever
Speaker:produced and get an answer in your tone, language, and voice.
Speaker:So, like, they are able to communicate with AI like they're
Speaker:communicating with Digital You. And that would come up as, like, a chat box on
Speaker:their website? They would just install that like they would any other kind of third
Speaker:party software? Right. It's, it's a turnkey solution,
Speaker:and, there is a snippet of the code. You inject it into,
Speaker:your platform or website, and it pops up, on on
Speaker:your website like a web widgets, like a chatbot. So how
Speaker:did you think this up? I mean, this is I've never heard of anything
Speaker:like this, something that you know, we have lots of AI solutions right now in
Speaker:the podcasting world that will listen to your audio, watch your video,
Speaker:create show notes, right, help you with creating other sorts of topics.
Speaker:But what was it that made you wanna take this to the next step to
Speaker:create an actual, you know, bot, let's say, based on
Speaker:that AI information? Yeah. That's a good question. So,
Speaker:like, how how we started, we did tons of interviews, like, hundreds
Speaker:of interviews with both podcasters and listeners, and
Speaker:we noticed a pattern. Right? So, like, listeners
Speaker:want, Podcasting to be more interactive,
Speaker:and they want personalized content. While
Speaker:podcasters, they, in their turn, want to know exactly when it
Speaker:is the best time to upsell their premium to them. So we thought that's
Speaker:okay. Seems that there is a need on both sides,
Speaker:and that's how we, decide to let
Speaker:podcasters talk to any number of their fans instantly,
Speaker:without putting, any efforts into that. Right? Like, you do not have
Speaker:to spend your time on talking to each and every fans while they
Speaker:still get, this feeling of personalized answers and,
Speaker:context. Yeah. And podcasting is still largely a 1 way
Speaker:street. And by integrating Twinbox, we are trying to make
Speaker:podcast more dynamic and responsive to listener needs.
Speaker:And this interaction, it makes podcast feel like 2 way
Speaker:communication, which, in its turn
Speaker:enhances listener engagement, especially for educational
Speaker:and business content. And we help podcasters
Speaker:understand their audience's interests through these interactions
Speaker:and guide them on what topics to focus on in future
Speaker:episodes. Oh, I definitely wanna come back to that that it's
Speaker:not just working on your past episodes, but also kinda helping you
Speaker:guide the future episodes. I I'm curious when you were
Speaker:talking to listeners and they said they wanted Podcasting
Speaker:know, you know, have more of a back and forth versus just be
Speaker:listeners to shows? Yeah. The thing is that, for for
Speaker:listeners, there's just few ways to, contact
Speaker:podcaster directly. Right? Like, I mean, whether it is an email or
Speaker:maybe comments on social media or whatever. And it doesn't
Speaker:seem like a dialogue, especially when the experts are, you know,
Speaker:very busy with producing new content. They do not have enough time to answering
Speaker:repetitive questions to the listeners. So, listeners want to feel
Speaker:that there is a way to contact you directly. So, like, they
Speaker:value it a lot, and we wanted to help them to to,
Speaker:obtain this connection. So, Elena, going back to what you
Speaker:were saying, the software not only helps you take your
Speaker:existing content and turn it into something that your target
Speaker:audience, your potential clients, customers, whatever can interact with, but
Speaker:it can also help you shape future episodes. How does that
Speaker:work? Yes. So we are actually analyzing all the
Speaker:conversations that happen, within Twinbox for specific podcaster,
Speaker:and we are creating the list of topics which are,
Speaker:the most popular, within these conversations. And
Speaker:based on this analytics, podcaster is able
Speaker:to understand what exactly
Speaker:help of analytics, basically. Okay. So what does it done with the help of analytics,
Speaker:basically. Okay. So what does it look like? Right? Take me through a a
Speaker:real world scenario of sorts if you can. Right? What would be
Speaker:you know, what's a I ideal client for this? And then what would those kind
Speaker:of interactions look like with their target audience? Right? What would
Speaker:be the the big CTAs, you know, call to actions that the
Speaker:audience would get that would benefit the Podcasting at the end of the day?
Speaker:So, yeah, probably. I'll try to answer this 1. Let's
Speaker:say you are a wellness coach. Right? And you,
Speaker:just started your podcast. You have, let's say, several
Speaker:100 or maybe 1, 000 of listeners, and you have your 1 on
Speaker:1 coaching sessions. You are going to sell through these podcasts.
Speaker:So, like, how it works, you like, through TwinBox,
Speaker:now listeners can ask any questions about, for example, how to sleep better.
Speaker:Right? And they get an answer, based, on on on their
Speaker:question, obviously. So we scan, the whole content produced by
Speaker:you as a wellness coach. It might include your podcast. It might include your
Speaker:newsletters and blog posts and whatever other content you produced.
Speaker:And we combine it into, an answer in your tone and language,
Speaker:Mathew back into your, fan who is talking to you,
Speaker:at this moment. So now, if that listener would
Speaker:like to continue this conversation, we, keep all the,
Speaker:history of conversation, like, that Fan currently
Speaker:has with you. And, basically,
Speaker:they are able to continue this dialogue asking, you know,
Speaker:providing more information about them, like, personalizing their request. I'm,
Speaker:you know, 33 years old, and I have, like, these type
Speaker:of issues. And now we, get more and more information from
Speaker:your knowledge base. And, like, it it feels like, you know,
Speaker:almost a personal consultation with that fan.
Speaker:Then, at some point, when we see that, that fan is
Speaker:interested in a specific topic, we are suggesting a contextual
Speaker:upsell to them. So, for example, if you would like to sell your 1 on
Speaker:1 coaching session, that's a really good time to offer this
Speaker:consultation to them since you and, like, we at
Speaker:TwinBox, we understand that now that fan, is,
Speaker:very inclined to buy from you since, like, the conversation
Speaker:continues. There are more questions from their sites. And, we
Speaker:analyze all your premium, content and all your premium
Speaker:services you would like to offer. And if there is a match, we generate an
Speaker:upsell to that user, intelligent upsell, and offer it to them.
Speaker:Yeah. And the the upsell that feels very natural and
Speaker:nonintrusive. And this really increases conversion rates.
Speaker:Yeah. The the nonintrusive part, that is gonna
Speaker:be, I imagine a big pushback from a lot of people
Speaker:who are concerned about their privacy, who are concerned about,
Speaker:you know, their data being stored. How do you address those types of
Speaker:concerns that are, you know, very common these
Speaker:days in the in the digital, you know, world? Right. Like, we
Speaker:have, several clients, who are, you know, in
Speaker:specific industries, like legal, for example, rights or or health.
Speaker:And we are working with them, you
Speaker:know, Podcasting TwinBox according to their
Speaker:specific needs. So if they want, the tool to have some
Speaker:specific compliances, we are thinking how to obtain them so that to
Speaker:make sure that it completely follows all the guidelines they have
Speaker:to follow. So, like, all our processes
Speaker:are secure. We are using only, the
Speaker:software that's, you know, that
Speaker:works works for our clients. And, did
Speaker:I answer your question or maybe yep. I am not a privacy expert,
Speaker:so I don't. But I know anytime I talk about something like this,
Speaker:I know it's the first thing that people always come back to is, you know,
Speaker:is this going to be compliant with, like, you know, EU GDPR
Speaker:regulations? You know, why would I wanna, you know, talk to
Speaker:AI and tell them all my problems? Right? Like, it's just it's just something that
Speaker:always seems to come up now in the digital world. And so I figured this
Speaker:is 1 thing that you had to have thought about, and just the fact that
Speaker:you have will probably, you know, calm a lot of those fears. Yeah. Like, and,
Speaker:I completely agree with that. And with the help of our clients who are kind
Speaker:of also our design partners. Right? Like, we design our
Speaker:solutions to match their, specific needs and demands. So, like,
Speaker:as as you mentioned, like, the whole world, tries to
Speaker:adjust to, you know, this new reality
Speaker:with AI, and so we're doing the same, with the help of our clients.
Speaker:Okay. What else should people know about TwinBox, if they're interested in, you
Speaker:know, signing up and checking Tech out and and wanna take it for a spin?
Speaker:We're happy to talk with, anyone who is interested
Speaker:to learn more about our tool. We're happy to do the demo.
Speaker:We are doing all the hard work,
Speaker:ourselves. Like, you basically don't have to do anything. We pull all
Speaker:the data. We aggregate it. We optimize it before we
Speaker:use it in your dedicated knowledge base.
Speaker:We like, basically, nothing is expected from you.
Speaker:So just, you know, come to our website, learn more
Speaker:about our products. We are happy to,
Speaker:talk, with, each interested person
Speaker:directly, since the feedback and, the
Speaker:conversation is what matters to us most at this moment. And so once again,
Speaker:folks, that is twinbox dotai. Of course, we'll have a link to that platform right
Speaker:here in the show notes so, you could check it out for yourself. I'm
Speaker:curious before I get to our, you know, typical questions that we ask everybody, what
Speaker:was your involvement in the world of podcasting before
Speaker:TwinBox? Was it, you know, you were big into podcasting and this is a solution,
Speaker:or you kinda have this idea for a solution and realized podcasting was the right
Speaker:place to apply it? Yeah. I don't know. Do you want us to jump in?
Speaker:Or Sure. So we are active
Speaker:listeners of Podcasting. I think that podcast has podcasting has become
Speaker:a major source of educating oneself. So we were
Speaker:doing that all the time, and we are full time travelers, so
Speaker:we drive a lot. And podcasting is, the
Speaker:most popular thing that we do while we're driving, listening to
Speaker:podcasts. So we also have a mentor,
Speaker:as Dennis mentioned, Brian, who is, he's a business
Speaker:mentor, but at the same time, he's a very successful podcaster. And
Speaker:we have been communicating with him a lot, and, we were
Speaker:working on a separate solution. But he was
Speaker:mentioning a lot of problems that he comes across while doing
Speaker:podcasting. That's why we started just investigating this
Speaker:area because of him, probably. Okay. Very cool.
Speaker:And like I said, I I had a previous relationship with, just Berman. We worked
Speaker:together on the, on the old news website pod to pod.
Speaker:And, you know, unfortunately, there are just much better products that
Speaker:came out to do that, but, working in was certainly a joy and a pleasure.
Speaker:I'm glad to hear that, he's also found some more good folks to work with
Speaker:like yourself. So the question I like to ask everybody that comes
Speaker:on the show that are related to it is, is there
Speaker:another place in the world of podcasting, whether as a listener
Speaker:or, you know, maybe someone who is a guest on podcast software, where you'd like
Speaker:to see some sort of improvement, take place? Yeah.
Speaker:Like, if we're talking about those things that are not yet invented
Speaker:in, like, for me as a listener, I always
Speaker:want to dive deeper into some specific topic that
Speaker:was, you know, like, mentioned, during an episode but not
Speaker:covered enough for me. And I think that with AI and
Speaker:with access to the whole, like, wealth of
Speaker:knowledge through AI and tech, it should be now possible
Speaker:to continue this conversation with
Speaker:your favorite Podcasting, about this topic even after the episode
Speaker:is over. Like, for me, and I guess for lots of other listeners, it's
Speaker:really critical to keep this personal
Speaker:connection, with your favorite creators. And, I
Speaker:guess it would be extremely powerful, as soon as,
Speaker:such tool, will become available.
Speaker:Like, being able to access any creator
Speaker:anytime you want instantly, that would be powerful.
Speaker:Oh, I think that's a huge thing is accessibility.
Speaker:And this is actually the area which is, for some reason, not paid
Speaker:much attention to in podcasting world and
Speaker:specifically making Podcasting accessible for deaf and hard of hearing
Speaker:people. And, within the podcast industry,
Speaker:it's, very hard, almost impossible to,
Speaker:find and, like, authentically accessible podcast
Speaker:that is engineered, designed, and
Speaker:creative, created with accessibility in mind for
Speaker:100 of millions of, deaf and how hard of hearing
Speaker:people globally. And I'm I think that technology should be able
Speaker:to ensure that Podcasting accessible for all. So,
Speaker:yeah, I think that's a huge 1. Yeah. I mean, that that is definitely
Speaker:1 that a lot of people have been talking about for a while, and starting
Speaker:to definitely improve, especially with the, you know, introduction of
Speaker:automated transcripts by Apple. And, you know, I
Speaker:think other platforms are quickly taking note of it. And truthfully, even more of the
Speaker:hosting platforms are incorporating hosting as an option to
Speaker:deliver to end users. So I think you, I think
Speaker:you're right. We're we haven't done enough, although we are moving in
Speaker:the right direction, which is nice. What about physical
Speaker:tech? Is there, you know, for a lot of the folks that we talked to
Speaker:on the show, it's really about recording and cameras and microphones and
Speaker:mixes and things like that. Is there any kinda actual hardware that
Speaker:you've been dreaming of getting to, you know, work within podcasting
Speaker:or, something that, you know, is on your your wish list?
Speaker:Yeah. That's a painful topic to me. I mean, like, I'm constantly
Speaker:encountering tons of issues with my headset, like, whether it is AirPods
Speaker:or, you know, any other producer. Now I'm using Sony. And, like, I
Speaker:I have constant, issues with, like, Bluetooth
Speaker:connection. So probably something that never has,
Speaker:never have these issues would be I mean, I would pay a lot for for
Speaker:such a thing that is, you know, proof of of,
Speaker:of work, of working all the time when I needed
Speaker:to to be on. What about you, Elena? Yeah. I think that this thing
Speaker:is both for Dennis and for me. Just the
Speaker:connection with, the Bluetooth. Always suffering
Speaker:with that. Can't think of anything else right now, to
Speaker:be honest. That's hard to say. I also think that,
Speaker:this probably is the most crucial problem for us because, as Elena
Speaker:mentioned, we're traveling a lot, and we are working from different places all the
Speaker:time. So, like, it is really important for us to have something
Speaker:that is very reliable, in terms of, you know, noise cancellation and
Speaker:all this stuff. And, you know,
Speaker:it's it's painful. I understand. I totally understand.
Speaker:And, hopefully, we're working on a few solutions that we can, send your way
Speaker:and you can you can try out and and tell us whether or not we're
Speaker:on the right track for you. Lastly, is there a
Speaker:podcast that you listen to that, you know, every time it comes out,
Speaker:it's, you know, whatever you're doing, you're stopping and you're going ahead and listening to
Speaker:that? Yeah. There are a few actually.
Speaker:And as we mentioned several times already, been
Speaker:traveling, doing traveling a lot.
Speaker:We well, our listening preference
Speaker:really depends upon the, situation and
Speaker:different things that we are doing at the moment. Like, we are working a lot,
Speaker:on TwinBox right now. So we have 2 podcasts that we
Speaker:mostly listen to. This is Lenny's podcast, which
Speaker:has tons of insights about the product with the focus on,
Speaker:technology. And, also, it is the podcast, by
Speaker:our mentor, Brian Scordata, which is ideas to to start
Speaker:up. And it helps
Speaker:founders in the area of marketing and customer relations.
Speaker:Besides that, wellness topics are always on
Speaker:top of our mind since our we have very
Speaker:extreme, extremely tense schedule, and we have,
Speaker:to come down sometimes a bit. And
Speaker:listening to mental health podcast helps here a lot.
Speaker:1 that comes to mind is heal with grace, which is a mental
Speaker:health podcast. So, yeah, these are probably the 3
Speaker:major ones we can remember. What about you, Dennis? Yeah. With Tech, Savannah,
Speaker:like, for me, podcasts are always, you know, like, they
Speaker:should be educational. I'm not really huge fan of, like,
Speaker:your entertainment through Podcasting. So, like, when I have a
Speaker:problem, I'm, looking, you know, for a podcast that
Speaker:might help me to solve this problem. So that's why all of them are educational.
Speaker:Lenny is amazing. We, you know, went through
Speaker:his whole, you know, Podcasting.
Speaker:And, yeah, there are a few others. But the idea here is that,
Speaker:like, they are their niche. I mean, I usually, you
Speaker:know, not trying to, listen just to
Speaker:1 or 2 favorite creators, but to roam around,
Speaker:the whole podcasting industry trying to figure, like, what works for me at
Speaker:these moments. Good to have some, variety and to, you know,
Speaker:expand your horizons in every direction that you can. So I like that.
Speaker:Once again, we've been chatting with Dennis Belovsky and Elena
Speaker:Belovskaya. They are the founders of Twinmox. You can learn more about their
Speaker:platform at Twinbox dotai. And if you are a podcaster
Speaker:who really wants your audience to engage with you,
Speaker:buy from you, work with you, you know, there's really follow-up
Speaker:to it more than just being an entertaining podcast. This is definitely a platform that
Speaker:I think is worth checking out and possibly trying out. Dennis and
Speaker:Elena, thank you so much for joining me today. Thanks, Matthew, for having us.
Speaker:It was great. Thanks a lot, Matthew.