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How to Design with Sensitivity in Mind - with HOK's Kay Sargent and Mary Kate Cassidy
Episode 2 • 3rd April 2022 • Happy Space Podcast with Clare Kumar • Clare Kumar
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Have you ever noticed the most amazing things happen when one is posed with a simple innocent question? That is how it started for Kay Sargent, a recognized expert on workplace design and strategy issues. She is an award-winning designer who has worked with several Fortune 500 companies to optimize their global real estate portfolios and create innovative work environments. Kay is currently a director of HOK’s Work Place team

Mary Kate Cassidy's career focus was to either become an architect interior designer or a special ed teacher. She chose the former and is now a senior designer at HOK focusing on corporate workplace design. In her graduate studies, she researched neurodiversity and its relationship to workplace design.

I invite you to listen and learn as we speak about:

  • 00:04:46 - How Mary Kate and Kay got into neurodivergent design
  • 00:05:47 - Designing for Adults on Autistic Spectrum
  • 00:07:07 - What is neurodivergent
  • 00:09:23 - Value in belonging
  • 00:09:53 - Legally designing for inclusivity
  • 00:12:28 - Spectrum of Sensitivity
  • 00:13:00 - The differences between noise and sound
  • 00:14:30 - Sensory Intelligence
  • 00:17:32 - Six modalities of work types
  • 00:19:32 - Rest at the workplace
  • 00:21:05 - Human Sustainability and well-being
  • 00:22:45 - Work like athletes
  • 00:25:00 - Onboarding process
  • 00:28:45 - Being in touch with their needs
  • 00:30:07 - Breaking up tasks during the day
  • 00:33:25 - Principles and Elements of Design


The Design of Everyday Things by Don Norman

"Diversity is being invited to the party; inclusion is being asked to dance," Verna Myers

Americans with Disability Act

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This podcast is hosted by Clare Kumar. As a productivity catalyst, highly sensitive executive coach, and speaker, Clare cultivates sustainable performance in busy professionals so they can keep making rich contributions in all areas of life and achieve greater fulfillment. She inspires leaders, professionals, employees, and entrepreneurs to respect humanity and boost performance through marrying productivity and pleasure. After all, why shouldn’t you have fun while getting things done? If you're a visual learner, please watch this episode on YouTube

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