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Lessons learnt from the Wedding Business Retreat
Episode 8319th October 2023 • Wedding Pros who are ready to grow - with Becca Pountney • Becca Pountney
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Last week we ran our annual wedding business retreat. It was an amazing week, and importantly there were lots of learnings that I wanted to share with you. This weeks episode covers a wide variety of topics from customer service to listening to your business instincts.

Join me as I share with you all of the lessons learnt from this years wedding business retreat.

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Time Stamps:

The impact of good customer service [00:04:00] Becca highlights the exceptional customer service experience at Beamish Hall and emphasizes its importance in creating a positive guest experience.

Recognizing the stage of your business and relevant training [00:07:11] Understanding that different stages of business require different levels of help and training, and the importance of focusing on what is relevant to your current stage.

The importance of convenience [00:11:02] People are willing to pay more for convenience, as shown by Becca's experience of ordering Starbucks coffee to the hotel.

Educating your audience [00:13:52] Offering simple tips and education in your content helps you stand out as an expert in your field.

Trusting your instincts [00:15:40] Don't doubt yourself or seek approval from others. Trust your gut instincts when making decisions for your business.

The importance of a supportive community [00:18:44] Becca emphasizes the importance of surrounding oneself with supportive and encouraging individuals in the wedding industry.

Benefits of finding your people [00:19:53] Becca encourages listeners to seek out like-minded individuals in the wedding industry to inspire and celebrate each other's successes.

Final thoughts and invitation to join a community [00:21:00] Becca concludes by urging listeners to find their people, be authentic, and not take business too seriously.

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Last week I had the most incredible week at our wedding business retreat.

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It's the third time that we've run the retreat and it was incredible.

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The people who came showed up with so much energy and enthusiasm to

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grow their wedding businesses and we learned loads and of course

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had a lot of fun along the way.

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In today's episode I want to share with you some of the things that I learned

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on the retreat that I think will help you and your wedding business too.

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I'm Becca Pountney, wedding business marketing expert.

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Speaker and blogger and you're listening to the wedding pros

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who are ready to grow podcast.

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I'm here to share with you actionable tips, strategies and real life

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examples to help you take your wedding business to the next level.

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If you are an ambitious wedding business owner that wants to take your passion

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and use it to build a profitable, sustainable business, doing what you

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love, then you're in the right place.

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Let's get going with today's episode.

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The wedding business is an experience like no other.

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We go away for three nights in a luxury hotel and it's a real

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opportunity for us to dive deep into the businesses of the attendees.

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It's the third year that we've run it and I run it with my wedding

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industry colleague, Kelly Mortimer.

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It's the only thing that we do together, but I absolutely love that we can bring

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our knowledge and experience together.

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to give the guests that week the best possible experience.

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This year, we had our retreat up in the gorgeous Beamish Hall

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Hotel up near Newcastle, and it was the most stunning venue.

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We had exclusive use of the hotel for the whole few days.

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All of the facilities, we had singers, magicians, gorgeous food cooked for

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us, and the most beautiful bedrooms.

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We just felt like we were treated like.

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Queens.

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So I wanted to share with you some of the things that came out of the retreat

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this year that I thought might help some of you in your wedding business as well.

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Now the first thing is actually from a guest speaker session.

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So this year we had the fabulous Carol Perez came and gave a guest session during

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the retreat that me and Kelly could also benefit from because we could sit back

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and listen to someone else talking rather than doing all the talking ourselves.

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And it was something totally different for us.

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Carol was Talking all about joy and happiness and how we can bring more

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joy into our daily lives and more happiness into our lives as well.

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And she said something that really resonated with me that was that one

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day she woke up and realized she'd become too serious in her business.

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I'm going to say that again.

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One day she woke up and realized she'd become too serious in her business.

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And I could really see how that can happen.

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I feel like I can be quite fun and bubbly, and I've got loads of things I love.

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I love Disney.

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I love musical theater, but sometimes the world around us tells us that to

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be successful and to run a business, we have to be a certain kind of archetype.

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We need to present really professionally, or we need to dress

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in a certain way, or we need to look a certain way on Instagram.

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And we can.

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kind of fall into this trap of becoming too serious.

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And as I talk about a lot in my sessions, becoming quite vanilla,

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trying to fit in with the crowd, trying to be like everyone else, instead of

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injecting our personality into it.

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And I really enjoyed what she said on that because actually we should

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all have more joy in our businesses.

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We can all find more joy in just Being ourselves and bringing a bit

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of personality into our businesses.

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So if you feel like you've become too serious, maybe you feel like

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you've got to fit into a certain mold, or there's aspects of your

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personality that you're squashing that you don't want people to see well.

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Actually, you can have permission to do what you want.

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One of the things I said, I'm going to do more of is just seeing and have

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fun and talk about my personality more on my social media and not feel

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like I've got to be this archetype, perfect professional person.

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So that's the first learning from me is actually from Carol's talk.

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All about joy is if you've become too serious in your business.

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It's time to change it up a bit.

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If that's your personality, absolutely fine, but if you feel like you've

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become something that you're not really, then it's okay to inject a

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bit of fun and a bit of personality into your life and business.

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Okay, the second learning is all around customer service because

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my experience at Beamish Hall as a retreat venue was incredibly good.

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I have very rarely been to a venue or a hotel where every single member

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of staff is polite, is friendly, is helpful, says good morning to you, says

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good afternoon to you, says how are you doing, can I do anything to help you.

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And that was my experience at Beamish Hall.

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So big shout out to the Beamish team, thank you for being so amazing.

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Because often in these places, you know, you have some people who are maybe

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running the event, who are really kind and polite and helpful to you, but maybe

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some of the other members of staff, maybe the Bar staff or the waitresses or the

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reception don't necessarily have the same energy or maybe are a bit short with

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you or maybe even sometimes rude to you.

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And it really stood out to me this week at how much the staff at

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Beamish Hall were not like that.

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Every single member of staff made me feel welcome.

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Every single member of staff was helpful and friendly and that made

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such a big difference to the week.

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As a whole, if your whole team can bring that kind of positive energy,

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it has a huge impact on your guests.

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So it's a reminder really that a real positive good customer service experience

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makes all of the difference because ultimately sometimes things do go wrong.

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All right, you're in a hotel, maybe something breaks in a room or, you

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know, someone forgets to do something, they forget to do housekeeping or, you

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know, mistakes happen all of the time.

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But when you have that level of good customer service.

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It's much easier to apologize and make a mistake better because

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you're already in a good light.

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You know what it's like when we start complaining about something,

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then we start finding more and more things to complain about.

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Well, it's the other way too.

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So when we're in a really good thought and mindset about something,

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we'll find reasons to defend it.

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So are you thinking about the customer service level in your own business?

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Whether it's just you making sure you're always doing things with a

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smile and always replying on time and doing all those good things, or

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if you have a team making sure...

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All of your team are having a positive impact because one team

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member that's letting the side down really can make a difference to

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that experience for the customer.

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Okay.

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Third thing.

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And we are going to be bouncing all over the place because over the retreat,

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we learned about loads and loads of different subjects over three days.

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So some of these things might be a little bit left field and not quite

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concurrent with each other, but I want to share them all with you.

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So.

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The next thing is that each different stage of your business

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needs a different level of help.

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One of the things that's interesting when we come together for something like the

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retreat is that often people in the room are at different stages in their business.

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That's always going to be the way, whether you're in an online membership,

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a free community, going to a training day conference, or coming on the

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retreat, you'll have people that are just right near the start of their

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journey that are wanting to launch onto the scene in a positive, impactful way

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and they're investing in learning how

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to do that.

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You may have people that are very, very experienced, but actually have

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kind of lost touch with how to do marketing and things like that.

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Or you might have people that are incredibly successful, but know how

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important it is to keep their personal development up to date or how important

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the networking side of things are.

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Or if it comes to the retreat, just want a bit of a rest from day to day life.

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And it's okay that everyone's at different stages of business.

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But it's also important for you to recognize the stage that

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you're at and to know that not all training and not all business help

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is for everyone at every stage.

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What do I mean by that?

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Well, actually, sometimes you need to realize that a certain business

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training is possibly too advanced for you or isn't relevant to you right now.

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So, for example, if we're talking all about finance and we're talking about

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higher tax brackets or becoming VAT registered, and you're just at the

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start of your self employed journey, that probably isn't necessarily 100

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percent relevant to you at this stage.

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Now it might be down the future and hopefully it will be, but don't use

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up your time listening to trainings that aren't relevant to you now.

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On the other hand, if you're really struggling with just the basics

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of what to post on social media or how to use Instagram, then don't

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feel like you're any lesser because you're having to watch more basic.

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kind of levels of training.

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In fact, that's your superpower.

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You want to go through those basic levels to make sure you understand that

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before you move on to the greater levels.

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So I just want to encourage you to think about the training that you're

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immersing yourself in, the things that you're watching, and to think

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why you're watching them and are they relevant to this stage of your business.

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Sometimes we can get a bit Training and challenge and free training overloaded.

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Sometimes it's important that we take a step back and think about,

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okay, what do we actually need help with right now, rather than whats

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shiny on the internet right now that I feel like I need to watch.

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Now, this realization has actually changed a huge amount in my own business.

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So you may or may not know, I have a community paid membership called

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the wedding pro members lounge.

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That's been going since 2019.

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So it's been.

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established quite a while now and inside there we have loads of business training.

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However, because we've been going so long, there's now loads of training and

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it has become a little bit overwhelming and not all of the training is relevant

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to all of the people at all of the levels, exactly as I've just said.

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So even in my own world, I'm addressing this.

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So within the roadmap.

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So that when you come into my membership, you start at the bottom

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and you can go to the build level and watch all of the trainings that

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are suitable for you when you're just starting to build your business.

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And then when you've completed those, if you feel like you're at the next

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level, which is grow, then it tells you what trainings to watch at that stage.

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And then we go up to advanced as well.

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So if you're a more advanced level, you can watch the more advanced trainings.

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So I want you to have a think about where you're at right now and make

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sure that you're listening to and learning from things that are relevant

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to the stage of business you are at.

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There is no point in watching a training about growing a team and outsourcing if

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you're right at the start of the journey and you're still getting things set up.

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Instead, you might want to watch something about branding or marketing

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messages or sustainability, but you don't necessarily to be watching things

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on VAT returns or employing staff.

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Okay, the next thing I want to talk about is how people

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will pay more for convenience.

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Okay, we're going off on another different tangent as well, but this

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is just from my experience last week.

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Now, at the retreat, we were in the middle of nowhere.

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That's often the case with these beautiful manor houses.

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We were in acres and acres of beautiful land.

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We had the place to ourselves.

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We were But there's one thing that I really like to have in

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the morning and turns out Kelly does too, which is a nice coffee.

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Now I'm a bit of a coffee snob.

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Most of you have probably looked down on me for this, but I just

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don't like pure coffee, right?

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It's too bitter for me.

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I like sweet coffee.

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So I love a caramel latte, anything like that, but just a pure filter coffee.

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I just can't drink it.

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Tea.

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Yes.

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Coffee.

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No.

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So as we're at the hotel, obviously all of the coffee available at the hotel

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while we were there was filter coffee and instant coffee, which is fair enough.

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And Most people were happy with that.

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However, I kept thinking, I just wish I could have another kind

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of coffee and it turned out Kelly was thinking something similar.

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And so I went on to Uber Eats just out of curiosity to see if I

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could order coffee to the hotel.

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Well, it turns out even in the middle of nowhere, I could order a Starbucks coffee

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for myself and Kelly directly to the hotel to be delivered within half an hour.

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Now obviously I'm going to be paying a premium for that.

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I could use the free filter coffee in the hotel that was provided.

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I could have had an adequate.

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cup of coffee.

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But because I wanted something better and it was so convenient, I was willing,

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and we were willing, to pay a little bit of a premium to get that service.

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Now, why am I telling you about my coffee?

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Well, not only because this poor man had to cycle with my coffee all

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the way down to the hotel that day.

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Don't worry, I gave him a nice tip to say thank you.

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But it's a reminder to us that people will pay more when things are convenient.

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If you could help someone at the last minute, or you can help someone

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with a problem they're struggling to solve, or you can make it easy

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for them to work with you, they are more likely to pay a premium.

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So if you've got this money mindset, that the only way people will

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work with you is if you're cheap.

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Or if you cost less or if no one else is offering it cheaper, then

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you need to change that perspective because people will pay more if they

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want something, if you're offering a superior or luxury product, or

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if you're convenient, if it's easy.

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I mean, how often when we can pay for something on Apple

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Pay, do we do it really quick?

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Like I have, um, thing where I have to pay for my child's football

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and they now let you do it on Apple Pay and I do it every time.

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But when someone sends me an invoice and I've got to log into my internet

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banking and find the details, normally it takes me slightly longer to do it.

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It's not convenient because I don't have my card to hand.

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So the more convenient something is, the more likely you are to make the sale

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and the more likely they are to pay.

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Premium.

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So have a think about your offering and your own money mindset and think

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how could you make it more convenient?

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How can you charge a premium for a service and what can you

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do to solve people's problems?

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Okay, the next thing that I want to talk about is how you are the expert

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and you need to tell people about it.

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One of the exercises we did on the retreat was to get people to create reels

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and blog posts in the room because me and Kelly are all about action taking.

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We don't want to just teach you the theory.

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We want you to actually go out there and get stuff done.

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So we set people a task to find something that they're the expert in

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and to talk about it on a reel or on a blog post and to go away and make it.

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And the response people had back to those reels after they posted

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them was really, really positive.

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If you want to help your couples, education is one of the best

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ways to stand out and to do that.

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And making it really simple, just because you know a lot about your

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subject doesn't mean that they do.

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It's the first time they're getting married, and probably, or one of the

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first times, and they're not an expert.

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in the wedding industry like you are.

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Now, if you're a cake maker or a florist, you're doing this stuff day in, day

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out, and you understand it to a tee.

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But the general public don't understand what you do.

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So if you can break it down for them into some really simple tips on a video or a

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reel, that's really going to stand out.

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Now, don't overcomplicate this.

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You don't need to do a half an hour live or a really long

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podcast like I'm doing here.

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Instead, you can just say something like how to choose your wedding

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dress part one, and then just give a really simple tip about being open

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minded and making sure you go into the appointment with an open mind.

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Now, the great thing about doing a series like this, as in, you know,

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how to find your wedding dress part one, is you can then do how to

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find your wedding dress part two, part three, part four, part five.

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And down the line, when people find part five or part three and

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they enjoy it, Guess what they do?

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They go to your profile and they start watching your other videos as well.

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Keep it short, keep it snappy, but remember you're the expert and the

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people that did this on the retreat had a really great response almost

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immediately from people commenting and liking and contacting them because

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people like to be educated and if you can show yourself to be the expert

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then that's a really great thing.

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Okay, my next tip may sound really obvious, but I think sometimes we

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doubt ourselves, and that is to go with your own gut instincts.

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I had some great conversations with people on the retreat about ideas they

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had for their business, or things that they wanted to do differently, or creative

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ways to exhibit at a wedding show, or creative ways to market themselves.

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And quite often they have a sense of doubt, they're looking for approval

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and what happens in that scenario is maybe they go to their friends or their

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family to ask their opinion and because maybe it's outside of the box, their

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friends and family say, Oh, I don't know if you should do it like that.

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Well, actually, I want to say to you.

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Be brave and go with your gut.

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You know, your business, you know, yourself, you know what you want to do.

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So sometimes you need to go with your gut feeling just because your friends

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and family maybe don't agree with it.

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Doesn't mean that they are right.

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They are not experts in the industry.

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They're not running your business for you.

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They don't necessarily know.

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They just know what everyone else is doing out there in the world.

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And as you know, comparisonitis is not the way to grow your business.

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So I want to remind you to go with your gut.

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If you want to put your prices.

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If you want to make a change in your business, if you want to take away a

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service, if you want to offer a new service, if you want to change your

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branding, change your website, do something totally different with your

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marketing, and you feel in your gut that you should, why not go with it?

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Go with your gut.

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Don't look for approval from others all of the time.

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So some of you might need that reminder right now to go with your gut.

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And if you are looking for approval, go to places where people understand

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what you're talking about.

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So go into a group.

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of wedding professionals.

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Talk to your wedding professional friends, go to someone like myself

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or Kelly and talk to us about it from a business strategy perspective.

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But don't undermine yourself and don't let your friends and family influence

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you when they don't necessarily know what they're talking about.

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Okay, this brings me to my final learning from the retreat.

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There's so much more I could talk to you about the retreat.

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We had so much fun and I think particularly the importance of having fun.

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We let our hair down and it's so good to see wedding pros having fun.

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Honestly, so important, but that's not my final point.

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My final thing is this.

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Remember to surround yourself with people who get it.

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Find your people.

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Whenever I do anything in person, I remember how important it is to surround

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yourself with people who get it.

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The thing that makes The Retreat incredible isn't just the teaching

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that myself and Kelly give, but it's the people in the room and the way

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that they show up for each other, the way they lift each other up, encourage

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each other and grow their businesses.

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together.

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And it's really important to find your people.

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One of the questions I got asked when I was away was, how do I decide

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which wedding membership to join and what communities to be part of?

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And my answer was, They might be teaching you the same things, but

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you've got to find a leader that you align yourself with and a group of

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people that get you and you get them.

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All right.

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The culture of a group, the culture of a leader is so, so crucially important.

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If you are going to invest in any kind of wedding membership or wedding business

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training, if something or someone makes you feel uncomfortable, then maybe

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it's not quite the right thing for you.

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That doesn't mean it's not the right thing for someone else, but

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you know, yourself best and you want to find the right people.

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I absolutely love it when my members get together or when I see people

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in my world get together because I know they're my kind of people.

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They're up for a laugh.

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They're not taking themselves too seriously.

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They can appreciate my love of Spice Girls and even if they don't like it themselves.

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But most importantly, they're not putting each other down.

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There's no culture of I'm better than you and you're not good enough.

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And you need to stop treading on my toes.

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There is none of that.

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The people in my world lift each other up, support each other, promote each other,

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tell each other, encourage each other.

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And that is so crucially important.

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And that's what happened on the retreat.

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The culture of the people in that room, it was just incredible.

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They are the most incredible people and they've made great business relationships.

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And that isn't by accident because they put themselves in the right

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room with the right kinds of people.

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So I want to encourage you, if you feel like you're not in the right space,

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if you don't feel like you've got a community, if you don't feel like

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you've got wedding industry friends to support and encourage you, or you feel

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out of place, or like something's a bit weird and cliquey, then change it.

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Go find your people, whoever your people are, wherever your people are

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in the wedding industry, go find them and be part of something incredible.

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Because surrounding yourself with people who get it, who are there to inspire

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and encourage you in your business walk, who are there when things feel hard and

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are there to celebrate you when things go well, is completely invaluable.

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So if you're listening to this and you haven't yet found your

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people, go out and find them.

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It is the best feeling in the world when you have a great group of

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wedding pros to be your friends and to support you in your business pursuits.

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However, that's with me and my members, which you'd always be welcome to pop.

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be part of, or whether that's elsewhere, go out there, find your

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people and enjoy being part of a community that lifts each other.

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The wedding business retreat was so, so incredibly exciting.

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I absolutely loved it and I hope that today from me sharing just some of

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these things that I learned has given you a bit of a taste of what it's

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like and given you an opportunity to learn from the experience.

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as well.

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Go out there, find your people, be unapologetically you, and

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back to what I said at the start, don't be too serious in business.

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Life's too short.

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I'll see you next time.

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