On this week's episode of "Who's Your Band?," Jeffrey Paul and Sean Morton welcome onto the show the talented singer-songwriter Lisa Bouchelle! We dive into Lisa's recent performances, including her opening act for Bachman-Turner Overdrive. We find out what its like performing with Jon Bon Jovi and Bruce Springsteen, the challenges of being an opening act and the dynamic of connecting with a crowd, Lisa's musical journey, insights into the hustle of the music industry and her creative process, Steely Dan, the midnight special, and so much more!

Okay.

Welcome, everybody, to who's your band.

I am Jeffrey Paul.

I am joined by my very funny, talented co host, Mister Sean Morton.

How are you, Sean?

You can give me more and then just funny and talented.

I'll take.

I'll take anything you really give me today.

You didn't pay me enough to give you more.

That's true, too.

I'm back.

I'm back in my studio.

I'm back in my studio.

I've left my dining room table.

Finally.

And now you're back in your boy cave.

I ditched cable.

I cut the cord with cable.

Finally.

Everybody is doing that.

Cut the cord with cable.

My cable would, the Internet would not make my office.

This office has like $100,000 worth of stuff on here, and I can't enjoy it.

I can't do anything down here.

I got all my guitars, my bass, my amp, all this shit.

I can't use any of it.

You know, there's no Internet or whatever.

So now I switch.

I go to T Mobile, right?

I go to T Mobile.

Oh, let me tell you, I got a little mesh.

I got a little mesh unit right here.

Look, here's my mesh unit.

And I got perfect Internet down here.

So you know what?

Fuck up is what I'm saying, basically.

That's what I say, too.

Fuck them.

Fuck them.

Henry.

Listen, man, let's get started with this.

Okay?

Enough.

Enough of this dopey preamble, because I'm.

I say this a lot.

I really do.

I'm excited about this guest.

Okay?

I'm really excited about this guest.

I met her about a week or so ago on 101.5 FM.

And then, as fate would have it, I went to go see the BTO show Bachman Turner overdrive over at the St.

George theater.

And guess who was the opening act is our guest.

She's a singer, she's a songwriter.

She has performed with Bruce Springsteen, Jon Bon Jovi, and we will get into all of that.

But it's our pleasure to welcome to the show Lisa Bouchel.

Hi.

Thank you for having me.

You know, it's funny, because when we met, you had asked if I was going to be opening at the St.

George Theater in Staten island at that point.

I was just opening at Carteret that week, and then I got a call to open that one, too.

So I was very happy to run and see you there.

So how does that work?

How does that happen?

First, how do you get the gig at Carteret?

And was it after the Carteret show that they asked you to perform?

At St.

George.

And I wanted to talk a little bit about that as well.

No, I got offered to do the show at Carteret through my management company, I guess someone who works at the theater that I had performed there before on another bill, and they asked me to perform, and oddly enough, they didn't see me.

And then asked me, another person from Live Nation who had worked with me before, who already knew what I did.

They called me and asked me to open in Staten island as well.

But before I played at the Carter, right after I met you, that's when I don't know why they just did.

So let's talk a little bit.

So, sure.

I go to see Bach.

Maternal.

I used to love this band growing up.

Okay, but.

So Lisa opens the show.

It's a couple of it.

Listen, me, Sean and I are both comedians.

We've opened up for some big comics.

It's a tough gig.

It really is a tough gig being the opening act when people are coming to see the headliner and you've got to warm them up.

But you, man, I got to say, you had it.

I thought it was tough.

A tough gig in this regard.

Okay.

They make a general announcement over.

Over the loudspeaker.

Okay.

They lower the lights.

No introduction.

No introduction.

Like stupid.

Ken Daschow was there.

Okay, just to make.

He said something in between that no one gave his shit about.

You couldn't come out stupid and introduce the opening act.

No, she just walks out on stage, but very likable, very charming before she starts playing, you know, introduces herself, you know, says a couple of gracious words and starts playing.

And that's what's really cool, is because I think, I don't know what your opening song was, okay.

But whatever it was, you got the crowd.

I mean, you did.

I mean, you got a voice.

You really do.

I.

Me and my wife was sitting there.

I think by the second or third song, we were like, she reminds us of somebody.

And we were thinking Melissa Etheridge, but not quite as raspy Cheryl Crowe.

And then I was thinking jewel.

Okay, yes, that's who you.

But the thing is, this little blonde comes out and Sean, I'm telling you, a powerful voice.

And I'm not just saying it because Lisa's on the show, you know, I never heard these songs.

She did a great job with them.

The couple songs that stood out to me, Washington.

Love is in.

Love is for the making.

Yes.

And was jumping kind of like a country song.

Was that your country song that you put the hat on?

No, that was only the tequila talking, but I kept the hat on for jump on don't.

Yeah, it did have kind of like a very, like, country pop sound to me.

And then you did, I thought, something that was very interesting, and I think this is a smart thing to do.

So nobody there really is going to know you.

They're going there to see BTo.

You open up with a couple of your own songs, which are good.

Okay, nothing extremely long.

So everything.

Very catchy, grave opening voice.

And then you do a cover, and you got a nice reaction when you said, I'm going to do the song by Gordon Lightfoot.

And then you introduced the song and now people were vested, and then you got them the rest of the way.

Did you feel the same way?

Yes.

But one interesting thing is I did do, I did record that Gordon Lightfoot song on one of my records, and I did a video for it.

So, yes, it is a cover, but it's kind of reimagined.

But I thought that it was great for that crowd because of the era and the genre, and I thought that people would probably be familiar with that song, whereas when I found it, I found it driving late at night on deep tracks.

But I knew that the people in that audience, the demographic, would probably know that song, and so I thought it would be a good one to do.

Yes.

That's what I liked about the show.

I liked that you were very engaging with the audience.

I liked that BTO was also, man, Randy Bachman was selling some great stories.

Oh, great stories.

And then, so we really did, like, we really did.

Listen, this is how you know that the opener did a great job.

You're not looking at your watch, and I mean that sincerely, but this is what pissed me off.

Hey, show ends.

Hey, thank you.

Thank you, Lisa Michelle.

No one from, from BTO can come and help you unplug, rap a wire, help you put your guitar.

I mean, you.

You, your own road crew, your own person.

It's.

It's like you walk on.

Do you think, like, man, they can help you out a little bit?

And then a couple of guys from BTO come out, you know, their road crew, to move a stool.

They, like, no one could help you.

What the hell?

The day before, my manager came, my main lead manager came up, and I didn't know he was going to come help me.

So I was getting ready to get my little crates to call this stuff in there, right?

And all of a sudden, he showed up.

He's like, can I help you?

I'm like, yes.

It was like an angel deception.

Because I have to get out some merch.

Like, you figure when I come in, I set up all my stuff at the merch booth.

I put my stuff up in the green room.

I come into my roadie clothes, I go up and I do my sound check.

I set up all my harmonizer, pedal, everything like that.

So after I get finished, I have to sweep that to the side of the stage, leave it there and book it out some merchandise, because I sell my own merch.

So I get out to merchandise, and then when I get finished with that, signing all the autographs, meeting all the great people and selling my merch, then I go in and I usually pack everything up, get it out to the car, watch bto or watch whoever, if I'm opening for someone, and then go back out and sell afterwards again, merch.

So it's like a lot, lot to get done when I'm getting off stage.

I have to get it off of there in about two minutes so I can get right out to merchandise.

It's a lot.

Yeah.

You really are a hustler, Sean.

She really is a hustler.

I mean, we're gonna talk about what stuff she's done, but I'm just kind of curious about.

Cause, you know, as comedians, Sean and I both know, you know, like, you know, we will sell our merch at a show.

Um, what was the response to the people, like, when you were at Carteret, when you, when you do open up for some of these bigger acts?

Cause you've.

Cause you've toured.

She's worked with the Wallflowers train, blues traveler, Dawn Felder, Glenn Tilbrook from Squeeze, one of my favorite all time bands.

And I'm leaving out people, too.

Okay, what, what's, what's it like to be, to be the opener for that?

And especially, I could show at St.

George.

Do people come?

Are people nice?

Are they gracious?

Do they, do they come and support?

What, what happens with that?

Well, firstly, the last two shows that since they just happened this week, I'll answer that question first.

I had a spectacular reaction with the audience.

It was synergistic.

And as you guys know, it's not just like it to me.

I don't know.

It's not just an ego thing.

It's like we're sharing the music.

They got what I did and they like BTO, and I like BTo.

And it was, it was, it's just, it was, it was very magical.

I mean, I really had a good time at both of those shows, and it was reflected in my, you know, I sold a lot, too.

A lot of.

Sometimes they'll wave.

If.

If you owe a percentage for hard merchandise, it might be like 15% for, like, your t shirts and stuff like that.

Might be like 10%.

At the end of the night, if you're the opening act and you only sell a few, like five cds or something, they're not probably going.

They're going to waive that thing.

So I had talked to the person I worked for, but at the end, he came up and I was like, selling things out, sign and everything.

I was, like, ready to sell blankets or shirts out of my car.

Like, I sell everything with the kitchen sink.

And so he's like, okay, they'll go over the percentage.

I guess that's kind of a good thing, because you were selling.

It was a good thing.

I said, that's the price of success rate that I did that.

But I have had such a great time touring everywhere and playing theaters, and I played arenas, too.

We had opened up for really big bands where we're playing.

Like, my whole band was there playing, like, 12,000 people arena.

And I love that.

But my all time favorite is that theater, because, like, that size George theater.

Well, no, I just.

Any theater that size, like, where it was an old movie theater, I think St.

And the sound, honestly, it's just like this, jeff, that sound in there, the singing, it's wonderful.

It's marvelous.

I mean, there's just nothing.

When you're a singer songwriter and you're not just, you know, rocking, you're also telling a story through your music.

There's nothing like a theater like that with good acoustics.

That's the theater that.

If you ever saw the movie school of rock, the big scene at the end, that's where they filmed it.

I didn't see the movie, but I didn't know that.

So I'll go watch it.

Oh, yeah.

A bunch of music videos have been shot there.

My wife and I were big supporters of it.

Before the show, we were talking to the owner of the theater, and we got a preview of what's coming up.

That's so gracious.

It is a great, great, great theater.

I don't know anyone who's ever gone there and said, nah, this isn't for me.

Jordan, have you ever been to St.

George?

I have.

I've actually played there, and I want.

I want to ask a question, because I've done the.

I've done the music thing, too.

And, you know, when you're talking about all the bands that you opened up for, and then you seem like you're a great fit and stuff like that.

I want to hear about the gig that you get up there and you open and you are the.

You are not the correct opener for the band.

Well, it didn't happen to me, really at all, except for one time that I went to, and it was just a nightmare.

The first, the first tour I went on, I was opening for blues traveler, and I didn't have the band.

That was a solo tour, and I didn't have much.

I didn't have a bus, I didn't have any budget.

It's gotten better.

But I was sticking canned goods in my trunk and I actually wrote a song called whole lotta highway about it.

You were on the tour?

I was traveling in my own car, and I opened up for eight weeks for them all over the.

They were great people.

Ended up making friends forever with some of those Bami's.

John Popper friends forever.

I toured all over and you had.

To drive yourself to the show.

I drove 12,000 miles in that car in eight weeks.

That was my first tour.

And things have gotten better, but I do hustle.

But there was one time I went on that tour, and I had scheduled a tv show appearance in Boston, and I left for the tour to go to New Orleans.

And I found out, like three days before I was leaving, I had to go.

So I get down to New Orleans, I had to leave my band there and fly up to Boston.

Right?

And I left my.

Because I.

Oh, no, wait, wait.

The band was playing with me somehow in New Orleans, and then they weren't on the rest of the tour.

Anyway, I get on the plane and I fly up and I leave my car there in the airport in Georgia.

And I get.

We.

Oh, I know what happened.

New Orleans.

Then we traveled to Georgia.

Oh, God, it's so confusing.

And we performed.

I left my.

Yeah, because we must have been in Atlanta.

I left my car at the airport.

I flew up to Boston.

I did the show, the tv show.

When I came back, my luggage wasn't.

It was missing, and I had all this stuff I needed in it.

I got in the car and I drove to Athens, and that was where the horrible show happened.

So I drive to Athens and I'm getting ready in some parking lot.

I had to go to CV's to buy makeup.

Everything was missing because my luggage got lost.

So I get to the show and I get on stage.

I think it was like a college type crowd at that one city, and it stayed in my mind because I don't have many flops.

They were just, like, looking at me like, what the hell?

They looked clueless, and I just felt mortified.

And after my luggage, it was a horrible, horrible night.

So that was my bad story.

But there was nothing really monumental about it.

It was just awful.

And it was, like, my second show of the tour, and the rest of the tour went wonderfully.

I know, like, when you're, like, a comic, right?

And, like, sean, like, when maybe you look like a clean comic or you with someone who is, you know, has, like, a niche or point of view, and you're the complete wrong act for it.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

That is brutal.

It was last week.

That was last Friday night in Staten island.

What was that gig like?

Sean plays a lot of the big rooms.

He played, I believe, a mexican cantina.

Yeah.

So this is what I actually said to them.

I said the best thing about meeting people in comedy, 16 years, you meet good friends.

And my friend booked me on this show.

I said, but he's not the only comic that I'm really good friends with.

In fact, my friend Sebastian maniscalco called me at 430 and said, hey, listen, I don't know if you're free.

Uh, my opener got Covid.

I'm doing msg tonight.

I can pay you ten grand to open the show.

So I said to him, hey, listen, I don't know if you heard, but do you hear the mexican cantina on Victory Boulevard and staten island?

Can't top that one, buddy.

Yeah.

I should not have left my house.

Oh, I've done.

And the scary thing is, I've done that Mexican Tina more than once.

Yeah, I got there and I thought it was a different place, which I thought had this huge, uh, back room, which I had been.

And I walked in and, uh, yeah.

Uh, the two by four that I was, uh, performing on was literally right in the front, alongside the stage.

Uh, and it was, uh.

I was.

I was not.

I was not happy.

Yeah, it.

It's comedy music.

It is tough.

But the thing is, there's some good times, too.

And so you did get to sing with, uh, Springsteen and Jon Bon Jovi.

Let me start with Jon Bon Jovi first, because I.

Because I actually got to see the video clip of that again.

That was really, really good.

I mean, they were doing, you can't go back.

You know that song?

He says, you can't go home.

He says, you can't go home.

Good song.

Yeah.

And they did it as a duet, and it was great.

It was great.

How did that come about?

And do you have any future plans on working with John?

I don't have any future plans at this very moment.

I've worked with this producer a couple of times because I recorded one of my very first cd up at his home studio that he had when he was in Rumsen.

And I got to be friends with the engineer and he's done some work for us in current albums.

But with John directly, I don't have a current plan, but you never know.

That was a cool thing.

I sang with him a couple of times.

In that particular time, we were doing a benefit concert that his wife, a charity that she was very involved in.

And so we just had a charity show and rock and soul review.

Bobby Bandiera was pretty much responsible for putting all the musicians together locally to be part of it.

And John asked that we all do one song with one song of his, and that was the theme and then one of his other favorite songs.

So he assigned me a song that I don't like as the other song.

And it was a song that I don't like so much that all my friends knew of it.

And when they heard that I was assigned it, they laughed last.

I said, just let me sing it.

I actually had an okay time singing if I.

I don't want everyone to get mad at me that loves the song, but I just personally don't like it.

There's nothing wrong with it.

Build me a buttercup.

It's not my jam, but I did do it.

I love that song.

I know.

So don't get mad at me.

But that's art.

It's subjective.

I don't like the song.

It's okay.

I sang the song.

I agree with you.

It's a horrible song.

It's a terrible, a terrible song.

I feel like if someone called me Buttercup, I would just be like, we're breaking up right now.

I think that might be, like, a top five worst song ever, actually.

Out of your mind.

That's a fucking horrible song.

That's a great, like, summer, you know, bar song, going down to the Jersey show.

I used to sing it all the time.

If I ever came to your house in miss Summer and you invited me over for a barbecue and we're hanging out and you put on build me a buttercup I'm drowning you in your pool I'm telling you right now I know I could hold you down and I could end your life in your pool if you played that song around.

Me, the next show that you and I do together, that we're coming out to walk up music.

That's what I'm walking up to.

I'm coming to see that.

Oh, my God.

So then after that, the other song that I got to pick would be one of John's and everybody else, like, oh, I think he assigned it to us.

Yeah, like that.

So he assigned everyone one of his songs, and he asked me to do that one with him.

So I was like, that'll be awesome.

And we did, and it was great.

Did you speak to him afterwards?

I was kind of curious what he said to you, but we have been.

In rehearsals all week, and I've worked with them other times.

We know each other, you know?

Okay.

Because that was really, really good.

And I could definitely see something coming out of that from in the future.

How long ago was that, by the way?

I'm very bad with time, and as if I wasn't.

Pandemic made me completely confused.

So I'm not even going to.

I don't even know.

Did you see the video with Jon Bon Jovi from last week?

What happened?

Yeah, we were on the air when it happened.

They had.

That's right.

That was the night that lisa came on the radio with us.

Video footage was amazing on that, though.

Really was.

You think the guy asked for an autograph after?

Well, he should.

He's got the picture.

That's what I wanted.

Picture, an autograph.

Like, you know, I won't jump, but you got to give me a signed guitar and tickets to your next show.

I just keep asking for shit.

Yeah, I would.

Why not?

What are you going to live with your life?

I mean.

Yeah, exactly.

Making you look good here.

John, how did you wind up getting together with Springsteen?

It all came through the whole Jersey shore scene.

My management and Bobby Bandiera and rock and Soul review that happens at the count Basie theater and some of the charity work.

And that was, I believe that was a different concert we put on called the Hope concert.

I think that was at the basie that I did backups for him.

And that was incredible.

Watching him lead a band is like, incredible.

I mean, because, you know how when we're all wouldn't, like.

You guys know, when you're by yourself, you can kind of change things up and go a different direction according to what's happening, come feed it back from the audience or just anything.

Your instinct, your vibe.

Right.

I can change what song I'm doing.

I can make a song shorter or longer.

I had to do that at the St.

George theater, because I looked and I was running out time, so I had to abbreviate the last two songs on, like a.

Like a Peyton Manning mentality, right?

You guys are probably the same, but when you have, like, a whole band, you really have to be a hell of a band leader to be able to turn around to them and just, you know, and get everyone on the same board when you're about to change lanes, you know?

And he just has that ability.

He can bring it up, bring it down, change directions, and he's just in the moment.

And he's just a great bandleader.

But that band also been together for 40 years.

We saw them last week in Asbury park.

And I think the greatest thing that came out of that concert was that he didn't do night shift by the Commodores.

Every.

Every concert I've seen him do over the past three years, he's played that dumb song.

This guy's got 200 amazing original songs.

He keeps doing the fucking night shift cover by the Commodores.

I can't stand it.

But let me tell you.

I love night shift.

Yeah, I know.

It's a great song.

But now you're gonna do prove it all night or you gonna do night.

Shift prove it all night, my favorite song.

So, yeah, of course you have to do prove it all night.

Let me tell you.

I don't know if you saw the set list for the Asbury part.

I did.

I mean, listen, I've seen Bruce a dozen times, and this was, without a doubt, the greatest set list I've ever seen him perform.

It was.

He changed.

Oh, that's awesome.

We did a lot of stuff from greetings, did stuff from the first three records.

It was just unreal.

What a great, great show.

But 35,000 people on the beach and.

As overhead, pictures of that are insane.

You know what?

On this tour, not a song I really loved by Springsteen.

I kind of just discovered over the summer.

I really love the song living in the future.

Do you guys know that song?

I don't even know it.

Off of magic.

Yeah.

Magic's a very underrated record.

Really great album.

Yeah.

I've been listening to a lot of the newest stuff.

Really good stuff, man.

I still say his last album is one of his best records in 20 years.

Or 72.

And he just recorded them for the first time, and they still sound just as fresh 50 years later.

It's unbelievable.

The justice freshen.

They're just as fresh.

They are a fucking mo.

I'm a just as fresh.

I'm gonna go kill myself.

Can you find my ticket stub?

Yeah, my ticket stub.

Lisa Bouchelle.

Also, this is what people don't know.

Two.

Two top adult contemporary 25.

Two top 25 singles.

Adult contemporary chart.

Yes.

Yes.

And the song you mentioned, love is for the making, that freaked me out.

We ended up in the top 20 for ten weeks of the adult contemporary Billboard chart this past year.

It was crazy.

Ten weeks.

Now, these albums that, you know, cds that you put out, are you signed on a label or are you putting them out on your own?

Is, you know, and how do you get distributed?

I mean, I've spoke about this before.

My first job at a college, I worked for a major label.

I worked for Columbia.

You know, with CV's records.

I work.

It was Columbia, Epic, all the associated labels.

The record business has changed completely since those days.

Okay.

Not as many artists assigned distribute.

You know, the amount of records sold isn't nearly.

So are you putting out a cd just to put it out there so you can tour?

And who distributes your stuff?

Well, we work sort of like a subsidiary with Sony records right now.

We've done.

We used to work with universal, and then we've done a lot, you know, on our trash can dreams label without any extra distribution.

But this current one, we get distribution and stuff.

We worked with Sony.

It's definitely, like you said, a different business.

I do still sell cds, and I also have it on all the streaming platforms, and it's harder, but I think it's more like you say, you have to think outside the box.

I think everybody does.

I mean, me, I have my tv show, and I kind of use that to feed you.

I just have to look at what each person kind of people say to me, how do I do it?

These musicians just look at what you have and try to think outside the box to capitalize on whatever's unique about you.

And it's kind of like I've managed to get some assistance that way.

So we do have the distribution, but it is definitely a different business.

And for me, touring is always my favorite.

So if I put out the music and it does well, and then we get better tours, that, to me, is what I want.

So I guess that's kind of the answer, but it's hard to say, jeff.

I mean, honestly, like, we all know it's hard to say what my plan is because I don't know what opportunity I'm going to be presented with that I have to weigh out and how I'm going to go about it, you know?

So I just have to put myself out there and see what I'm offered and then try to make the most intelligent decision I can.

Moving forward.

Forward motion.

As long as I keep getting farther, I'm good to go.

Well, that's the thing.

The thing is to always keep moving forward.

But you're out there.

I mean, you'll play the St.

George theater one night and you'll play someone's living room the next night.

Well, yeah, house concerts are awesome, but let's make it bar when I have to go to bars, which is this weekend, which is fine, but it's a little different.

We're in the same situation, you know?

I know.

Exact same situation.

I can.

I can never.

I'll never forget that.

And then the next week, my gig was five people in a basement sea caucus, you know.

Yeah, it's never.

You can never tell.

And you got.

You good with the bed with it, though.

But I got a question.

Rockstar kitchen.

I want to know about this because I was a rock star.

I'm still a rock star comedian, and I could fucking cook.

So I want to know about.

Well, Rockstar Kitchen is right now repeats because we're going with another network soon.

So then I could let you know what's going on.

But right now it's the repeats.

We have a great show concept.

Apparently it went really well.

I came up with this idea to do, like, cooking and have someone bring, like, famous people.

Come on.

But bring, like, a recipe that's near and dear to their heart.

Like, say they're, like, vegetarian or say they picked it up on tour in New Orleans or say they're really famous and you want to hear about their grandmother's goulash or something.

You know, we recreate that, or we try to do whatever recipe is our favorite.

And then we, while it's cooking in the oven, we usually do one song that's one of their classics and one new song that they have, and we do them very acoustic because I'm like a folky kind of check.

Even my band is all based around the acoustic.

So we sit around the kitchen table and just do, like, acoustic versions of songs that people have usually only heard, like, fully produced and the great thing about having them bring something that's near and dear to them is that you open them up and they start to talk about their childhood.

They're touring things that you normally wouldn't hear about while we're rolling dough and flour.

You know, it's, that's, that was great, you know, because I like the cooking segment of, I mean, you got some great guests, man.

But I, but the best part really was like, you're singing with the singer from tonic.

Yeah, that was, that sounded really, really good.

You're saying you had not only Kelly Hansen, but you had Jeff Filson.

I love both those guys.

Oh, you do?

From Farna.

Yeah.

I thought that was great.

You're getting some.

You had great guests on that show.

You had bowling for soup.

I thought that was kind of like a fun episode.

I mean, really.

Yeah.

But really like a different type of guy that Jack blades from night Ranger.

It's a great idea, for sure.

I'm a little shocked that it hasn't been picked up and has been at least syndicated in major markets.

Right?

Well, yeah, that's where we're going right now.

We're in talks about that because when we first got, I came up with the idea.

It took us literally, like a year and a half to get it onto the network.

Now it's like it was their top rated original content show on that network.

Meanwhile, it takes a year and a half.

Everyone says, you guys know, the two of you know better.

I'm preaching the choir.

Oh, you just, it's such a great idea.

It did so well.

Must have been.

It didn't.

We had to fight to get any placement at all.

So it's like now it's doing well.

So now, you know, other people are interested, so hopefully, you know, we get a farther along with that, too.

What's your, now let me ask you a quick question.

Are you married, Lisa?

Are you in a relationship?

Oh, well, I'm seeing somebody.

Okay.

So here's my question.

Now that you're a cook, what is your go to dish?

The first dinner that you have to make somebody, you're trying to impress them, what's your go to dish?

Well, if I'm in, if we're, if we're doing an indoor dinner, I'll probably go with pork chops, Creole, and if I was outdoor, I'd probably go with salmon on the grill, that type of thing.

Salmon salad, some roasted vegetables on the grill and stuff like that.

But inside, I'm giving her my signature dish.

I want her to make it.

I want her to make it her own.

That's what she's going to do.

She's going to sit there and cook for you all day.

I'm telling you, this is a goddamn good.

I want to hear.

I'll make it for you, too.

It's a very simple pasta dish, so I like to make my own pasta.

And then what I will do is I'll take cherry tomatoes, cut them up into quarters, and then I will take olives that have the pimento inside the olive as well.

Chopped them up.

Feeny.

Feeny, right?

Tons of garlic.

Because when it says two cloves of garlic, let's just be honest.

We use twelve anyway, right?

Nobody?

Two cloves.

Okay.

Tons of fresh basil.

It's an olive oil based, so it's very heavy, but layered, bottom of olive oil.

And I saute the tomatoes and the olives all the way down.

Throw in hot, you know, the red, red pepper flakes afterwards.

Throw that in there, too.

Very end.

Throw all that tons of garlic in there.

More olive oil.

Makes into a sauce.

Put your fresh pasta in, twirl it around.

Pecorino Romano.

Could this be more complicated?

That's a mic drop right there.

That sounds like.

Yes.

God.

Don't encourage him, Lisa, please.

It's making me hungry every night.

Jeff, you learn more about me.

You had no idea how much of a great cook I was, too.

Yeah.

You in the kitchen.

Continue.

We had a show with.

With a chef on, and he's going on and on about this dumb pasta dish that he made.

You put.

You put macaroni in a bowl.

In a pot.

You let.

That's what you did.

Stop it.

Make your own pasta, Jeff.

Hard.

Where are you from?

Born in Trenton.

Oh, so you're a Jersey girl.

Okay.

Yeah.

Did you spend.

Did you spend time in the south?

I did in New Orleans.

That's great.

Yeah.

Out west in Mesa, which is outside of Phoenix.

So I traveled a bit, you know, coming up.

And now I'm still.

Right.

I'm in Jersey now, so I like it a lot.

Writing a joke could be.

You could have weeks, sometimes months, you know, even years, where things come to you.

You know, like, you'll be driving, you'll have clarity in your head, and you're able to write, and, you know, you just gotta be able to get it on paper as fast as you can think it.

When it comes to you and your songwriting, how do you go about doing a song?

Do you do lyrics first?

Does the music come to you?

Or do you work in a collaboration with your band.

I write, and usually.

Sometimes I co write, but mostly I write solo and I bring it to the band, but I.

I have different ways.

I write.

Sometimes I'll pick up the guitar and, like, you get, like you say you're in a.

You're in a mood where you're tuned into that frequency.

Somehow it feels like it comes through you.

Like maybe you didn't even write, even though you did.

It's almost like you're channeling it.

You're.

It tuned into that frequency of the muses.

Right.

And this goes on for.

It can go on for weeks or months, and I can always write something.

I could write something right now, but the really good stuff, it's like when you're in one of those, you know, like, modes where you're writing.

So it can either be where if I'm in that mood and I pick up the guitar, I'm probably going to come up with something, be it a verse, and then I write the chorus, be it a verse.

And I go fish through my lyrics.

Scraps that I write down when I have an idea and I grab a chorus from it, well, that'll match like an outfit.

Or whether I write the poetry first.

Like, I have a song I called I believe, and I wrote it as a poem, kind of.

And it sat there for, like, couple months because I couldn't figure out what kind of music.

I must have changed it ten times.

And then finally it ended up being four chords, the whole song.

So, you know, sometimes it happens in pieces, but, yeah, there's no rhyme or.

Reason I can say.

I mean, there's no rhyme or reason to it.

Because, again, I can write.

I have a book over here that probably has three to 350 songs that are written in there already, too.

But, you know, Jeff, it's not like the only way you can describe it, too, is with us.

Like, if you wrote a joke, you know, ten years ago, you know, the joke that you do about the didgeridoo, I make fun of it, but just say you did that, right?

And then, you know, that came to you in, what, ten minutes?

Maybe 15 minutes.

That came pretty quick.

Yeah, that came quick.

You know, I have half written songs from literally 20 years ago that I don't know what direction I would ever go into with it.

And then I have lyrics that I wrote in 45 seconds where I've written three verses, choruses, bridges, everything like that.

There's no.

It's just.

It's very strange, you know, like, I can remember hearing slaughter the slaughter the song up all night, and they wrote everything, and they had.

He had all the lyrics in his head.

He had nothing to write it down on.

He wrote it down on the back of the Domino's pizza box, but they wrote higher song in 30 minutes.

You know, similar story to cherry pie.

Exactly.

The Warren song.

You know, when.

But we had Bobby Brown on the show, and she told us the story of that and how Janny wrote that one.

You're inspired.

Who, growing up, Lisa, who did you listen to?

It was really weird.

I listened to classic rock and, like, waylon Jennings, like, outlaw country for a while, and then I got into, like, some pop stuff, but I honestly was, like, always into, like, the older stuff.

Like, I still have.

My parents have passed away.

I still have their vinyl, and I listen to that all the time.

What made you want to be a singer?

Songwriting.

And when did you know?

I was four years old, and I went to a talent show at a picnic, and my parents and grandparents were there.

I was the only child, and they were fighting all the time, and I signed up for the talent show.

We knew a little bit ahead of time, so my grandmother made me this patriotic outfit, and I was going to get up and sing America the beautiful.

And I still remember memorizing America the beautiful, like, literally, like, purple Mountain's majesty, as, like, a child would remember the words.

I still can remember that.

And I got up to sing, and they stood me on a picnic table because I was the smallest contestant, and it was like a contest, and I thought, oh, they gave me a stage.

So there I sing in my little patriotic outfit.

Everyone clapped.

The family got along the rest of the day and talked about what a great day it was.

And I decided right then and there that's what I wanted to do.

And I never looked back.

Do you practice every day playing guitar?

Guitar?

I have to because I have stuff to do, but I can tell you that I'm not sure that I would do that for fun, because I remember when I first started playing guitar, I would practice my singing lesson every day.

Love to sing like a bird and my guitar, I had to actually, like, be disciplined.

But now I have so much I have to work on and record and play that I have to play pretty much every day.

Yeah, I like it.

I like it better now that I got better at it.

A song like loves for the making.

Okay, can you play a little bit of that so Shaun knows what we're talking about here?

Yeah.

I want him to hear the difference between love is for the making and.

Jump in okay, now, love is for the making sounds a lot better with a little harmonizer pedal because it gets everywhere.

That was another thing I was going to ask you.

That's what you had.

You did have a little harmonizer thing when you were saying that sound.

I don't pre record.

I sing through it.

I put the guitar, Sean, you'll know.

You put the guitar and you put the vocal mic through it and it calculates it's like a millisecond behind.

You can't tell.

I said it for like a.

Yeah, like a fifth or a third below.

And then when I want to have a harmony to show everyone.

Okay, you haven't heard this song.

Here's the chorus.

Hit that.

And everyone just automatically knows, you know, gives the song a little bit more dynamics live.

I dig them.

Yeah.

Let our audience get a sense of what you sound like.

Okay, so love is for the making.

Do that one.

Love is still the answer it's still the truth I'm still the flag don't close your fists around it let it flourish in your.

I give this fall when I give it life is for the living love is love is love is.

All right, that's a great job.

Now that was that the sing along song?

Um, that was, um.

Sing along song.

Yeah.

Because it was, there was a song you asked everybody to kind of like, sing.

I did, I did.

I think they were singing on the la, uh, of part.

Yes.

And I jump in.

I have them all clap, too.

That's a, that's a good one for clap, getting them to clap.

I'm trying to find my tuner on this particular guitar because it obviously needs it.

Because you did get the, uh, the crowd into that as well.

Yeah, yeah.

Jump in was.

I'll do a piece of that.

There's a little piece of that.

I just gotta tune this up.

Sean, do you know how to tune a guitar?

I tuned by here, buddy.

Do you know how to tune a fish?

I'm not high enough for that kind of fucking humor, Jeff.

Give it time.

Right.

The night is young, okay, so jump, jump, jump, jump, jump.

And I understand you've been feeling depressed.

And I do agree it's kind of dangerous.

My soul is swimming, I was in a mess.

I'm wondering if I fear my life more than my death is inevitable.

You can afford it.

Don't tire snake inside of going down that same old road nowhere if too jumping jump in, gotta jump in.

Whether I sink swim, I'm gonna jump in.

And when that cold water hits me, I stop to catch my breath, I just walk down.

Even.

Jump in.

Jump in.

Jump in a wall.

Jump, jump, jump, jump, jump, jump, jump, jump, jump, jump, jump, jump, jump, jump, jump in.

Jump in.

Watch me jump in.

I gotta jump in.

Yeah.

There we go.

Little jump in.

You see?

Now you.

You need to.

You need to do this live.

Bring Shawn with you, and he can come out to the side, and he can, like, jump like that.

Like, with arm up.

How about every time she says the word jump, I just take a hit?

I think you should have to play a song for us now, Sean.

I don't have.

I have.

I don't have any acoustics down here.

I have an acoustic bass down here, but I have three electrics.

I don't have a.

My acoustics are upstairs.

Cool.

So, Lisa, the name of our show is called who's your band?

Right?

And, you know, and this is really one.

One of the rare shows lately that we've been talking a lot of music.

And your band, when we spoke off air, you said you're a big Steely Dan fan, and we haven't had.

That album's already here, a couple of them.

My favorites.

I gotta say, I never was a big Steely Dan fan until recently.

And then I became, as Sean would say, obsessed.

Cause Sean likes to overuse that word.

But I became obsessed with steely.

Daniel.

Loved the band, really.

Started preaching, like, the songs I didn't like.

I didn't like the song, peg, growing up.

Really?

Yeah.

Yeah.

I thought.

I thought that music was too sophisticated, and I think over my head and over the last few years now, and I really started to get into it.

Appreciate it a lot more.

Then I got to see them open up for the Eagles, and I thought they were fantastic.

Oh, my friend, that show.

Yeah, yeah, that.

That was great.

I got it.

I gotta tell you, I'm not.

I'm not well versed in that kind of band.

Like, I'm not really big with them.

And, like, Bachman Turner overdrive, like, that whole seventies kind of arena rock, I guess, genre, I guess you want to call it.

I'm not familiar with that.

All doobie brothers.

I know a little bit, but I couldn't tell you.

One c la Dan song.

They're great.

Do it again.

It has to be one of the best songs recorded.

I think Donald Fagan is really a musical genius.

He really is.

He overcame this crippling shyness.

I don't know if you ever saw the video for do it again.

Steely Dan was really one of the ugliest bands in creation.

And he wouldn't.

On the midnight special, he was too shy to actually sing the song.

So they get this guy to come out and sing.

He sings it great.

Doesn't sound like Donald Fagan, but he does a great job.

A more ugly human being.

Okay, like, Donald Fagan is.

On a scale of one to ten, he's a minus two.

Okay?

They wound up getting a minus eight to do this, all right?

But it's all about the music.

It's all about the, you know, the sound and the perfection.

And, like, on the classic albums, they would change, like, Asia, they would change up the musicians per song to fit the song.

And the only ones who would really kind of be the constants with Donald Fagan and Walter Becker and.

I did that one time.

I was watching one of those time life, best of the seventies things.

I was.

I was really, really hungry.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And I bought the entire midnight special series.

It came to my house, like, eight days later.

I had no idea when I bought this shit.

Adam?

Adam, are you there?

Okay, do me a favor.

Before we end this, can you find Neal Sidaka singing bad blood on the midnight special?

Can you just bring that up?

Okay.

Hi.

Very random.

You have no idea what I'm about to show you.

Okay.

The midnight.

I would buy that box set for what we're about to see.

Oh, I can just go upstairs and give it to you.

You never wound up listening to it or watching it?

I never watched it.

I did that another time too.

I was really hungover after a show, right?

And I dozed off.

And, like, I was watching walking dead.

I'll never forget this.

I was watching the walking dead, and I dozed off.

And then after walking dead, there's a show called the Cutlery Corner.

Do you ever see that?

Yeah, they sell knives and shit.

So I dozed off watching the walking dead, and I woke up, like, the groggy, and then I hear them say, do you want to survive the zombie apocalypse?

And I was like, yeah, yeah, I do.

Like, I didn't.

I didn't realize where I was.

And I ordered, apparently, this fucking zombie machete.

That's this.

And it came with a little zombie knife.

And it came, like, again, like, two weeks later.

I had no idea when I bought this, I had to go back and figure out, like, you know, what.

What time and what day and shit like that.

And it's upstairs too.

Jeff, all my bad purchases are upstairs.

How many bed purchases?

Yeah, yeah.

Come on.

I'm fine.

This.

This is not hard to find.

Okay, pull this up.

Let's see this.

I don't know if you got.

I'm sure you guys have never seen this.

I've watched if there's a thousand views on this or a million views on it.

9000 of 9 million mine.

All right, play a little bit of it.

Watch when they zoom in first.

This is his outfit.

Look at what he's wearing.

How awful is Lisa?

How bad is his dancing?

Oh, God.

Look at him.

Look at it.

Look who he's wearing.

Locker.

Look at him.

Adam.

Where's the sound?

Look at his pants.

Well, you don't sound or.

No, there was a sound.

Good sound.

Hold on.

Give me 1 second.

Termite.

Wounding it.

Adam.

I know, I thought I had it.

All right, hold on a second.

What are you doing?

Come on, Adam.

All right, here, try this.

Try this one.

Let me know if this sound.

Okay, here we go.

Play.

Look how bad it looks.

Dance.

His dancing gets worse.

By the way.

The outfit is hair.

His faces are sing.

Also, when they show the crowd shots, he gets nothing from the audience.

They just look at him.

Look at his pants.

He's a mom jeans.

You see where he's moving his hips?

Know what this reminds me of?

He's like the kind of guy that, like when you get knocked on your door and you open, he goes, hi.

Hi.

My name is Dan Wilson.

By court order, I have to come here and tell you.

Look at his hands.

He's doing this thing with his hand.

He's holding up the microphone.

Look at this guy right here.

The guy sitting there with his hand on stage.

Nothing.

Getting nothing from the crowd.

He's doing a little teapot move.

Gross.

Now, in this real song, in recorded versions Elton John is doing the backup vocals.

What he's gonna put bad.

Nothing.

Nothing from the audience.

His dancing is insane.

He's just kicking his little kicking legs.

Finger snaps.

I'd wear that outfit.

You will never wear.

You would never wear this outfit the day you wear this outfit.

If you wear those pants, we stop being friends.

Oh, now he's sexy with the hot chicks.

If you wear those pants, then Jeff is gonna play buttercup.

I'll play.

Look at.

Look at this.

How awkward is this?

Luke said, what would you do if you on stage with nails back?

It's so cringe.

Tell you what, tastes anything of a gold meal.

Buttercup.

It's not better than boatmeal.

Adam.

Pete, stop it.

Adam, please stop before I come over there and pull out of your hand.

Okay.

Thank you for sharing that with us.

Thank you for sharing.

Song is okay.

Yes.

The dancing.

The performance.

The dancing.

I would seem worse.

He's not the best answer.

He's not the best video of rock me tonight is worse.

But that's.

But we were just watching the live version.

I like when he, like, he's going bed.

He wants the audience to go bad and, like, that's nothing.

He gets nothing.

It's like a comic that goes on stage, not a laugh, and it's like.

But anyway, like, yeah.

And just has to just plow through.

Thank you.

There's nothing worse than getting no reaction from an audio.

Like, he's very different.

Okay.

Comedy is very different because, you know, you could say a joke bad, you know, we've all done it.

You know what I mean?

We don't get the reaction.

But if, you know, you're playing a song right and you're not getting any reaction for it, that's a fucking hard nut to take.

I'll never forget.

One time we were doing a show at Lamore in Brooklyn, and I got booked to open for this band.

It was a very.

They were a heavy band, and they were really, really popular at the time.

And we were not a heavy band.

We were all hard rock bands.

And I go, guys, we got to open up with the heaviest song we have.

And we went and we dropped it down.

We went drop downs daily.

We went a whole step down.

Like, even just to make it as heavier as we possibly could, you know, I'm going really deep with the vocal.

I'm really getting into it.

And you literally heard.

It would help you by the microphone doing that.

Heartbreaking.

It was heartbreak because we were like, well, that was the best we got.

So now the rest is all fucking downhill.

But I remember even the guy, the singer from the band that we opened for, he came up to me, he goes, yeah, man, good set, wrong show.

Yeah.

And I was like, I took that.

I was happy with that.

I accepted that.

But, man, let me tell you, I'll take.

I'll take bombing with a joke any day over not getting a reaction with him.

With a song any day, at least.

With a joke, you can move on to the next thing you don't have.

You can.

You can bail out of your material and do crowd work to try and save the day.

Okay.

A song, you got to plow through and just.

Have you.

Have you ever opened up for someone, Lisa, and it just is just not your night.

I mean, I'm not talking about, you know, logistics and travel.

I'm just talking about the audience is just not feeling it.

Oh, yeah.

Well, that was the time, after all that logistics and traveling, that was the time that the audience was just like.

That makes it when everything else sucks, and then you're hoping the show's gonna bail you out, and that sucks too.

I got.

I also got stage fright one time that was.

That was.

Oh, my God.

It was horrible.

I guess I was just tired when I went out on tour.

Cause I was exhausted from getting ready to go.

I don't get stage fright.

I got such debilitating stage fright.

I don't think I totally bombed.

But I knew I wasn't that good, as, you know, and I was, like, shaking, and I couldn't get over it.

I didn't understand what happened.

That never happened again either.

But that was a horrible night, Jeff.

I remember one time I had one.

Time, and Jeffrey's involved indirectly.

He doesn't even realize this a million years ago.

Jeff says, hey, do you want to do the ring announcing for an independent wrestling event?

Because he knows I love wrestling.

Now, of course, we get a little nerves on stage like this.

Fucking terrified.

The reason why, as I was terrified of going into the ring and tripping and falling in the ring, right?

So every time I'm walking in so gingerly and making sure my feet don't clip the ropes, right, it was.

It was so bad.

And then the last match.

The last match, I walk into the ring, and my toe clips the middle rope, and my watch hits the rope, and my watch smashes, and it explodes all over the ring.

And all you're hearing is the crowd going, you fucked up.

You fucked up, you fucked up.

It is.

It's a soul crushing feeling when that happens.

It really is.

No, I remember I had.

I drove out.

I took Mike.

So Coley with me on to this show, right?

I was co headlining a show out in.

Out in southampton.

So it's about a two and a half hour drive.

Me and him drive out there.

We bring this other guy, Freddie G, with us, right?

And three comics go up before me, and this other guy are gonna close the show, and he's a long island guy.

So I was like, you know, you can close it, but I'll just go on before you.

The three other comics, there was this guy in the audience and his table that the second they went on just starts hammering people, you know, just interrupted, said heckling.

And I tell Mike before he goes on or before they're about to introduce me, I go, this guy starts with me.

I go, I am wasting no time going right after him.

12 seconds in, this guy starts.

And now for me, and I'm supposed to be doing Sentinel headline.

I think I was only doing 25 minutes, all right?

I start going after this guy, and for the next, maybe ten to twelve minutes, I'm going at this guy, and it ends with me, tell him to go fuck his mother.

Okay?

Oh, my God.

I mean, it gets awkward.

It gets weird, okay.

Him and his table get up and leave.

All right.

Now I had.

Now, now the audience is.

It's, it's really uncomfortable in there.

And there's a guy sitting there, arms folded in the first row.

And like, you know, listen, I can't go right into material.

I got dressed as going on the room.

So I started doing a little crowd work.

And I go, and I go, sir, what do you do for a living?

The guy gives me nothing.

Goes, move on.

I go, no, I'm not moving on.

I go, what do you do for a living?

Move on.

I go, sir, this will be the show.

This just me asking you what you do now.

The audience starts to come back on my side, and I'm able to salvage the set the last ten minutes.

I'm able to get them and I get off, but I'm pissed off.

I drove two and a half hours.

I spent more than half my set fighting with this asshole in the crowd and his table and this guy in the front row.

I walk out and I walk out of the showroom, and to the right of me is the bar where I left my book, my comedy book where you write your jokes, okay?

And I have to go get it.

And who's at the bar?

The guy and his, and his friends.

I have to walk to them, okay?

And I'm thinking to myself.

Cause I see as I'm walking, they're going, that's the guy.

That's the guy.

Okay?

And I'm thinking to myself, if these, if these guys gonna start anything, the first guy, I'll go, I'll take out the guy who was the troublemaker.

His friends could fuck me up, up.

But I will get my pound of flesh on this one guy.

I have hostility in me.

And he goes, I woke up, there.

He goes, were you the guy on stage?

I'm like, you know exactly who I am, okay?

And now I'm ready for it.

And he's like, I just wanted to apologize.

I'm embarrassed.

I thought it was helping the show.

Can I buy you a drink?

He sincerely thought he was helping this show.

But for us, we want to get our jokes that craft, that.

We want to put them out there to an audience that hasn't seen us before.

And I have this fucking asshole that I have to sit there and contend with.

There are a lot of similarities, I think, between being a comic and being a musician and even being a wrestler, doing this and doing this.

Like, you know, we're grinding and we're taking gigs in big, big arenas, opening for major acts, and we're doing it in cantinas and.

And, you know, bar shows.

Yep.

Right?

Very true.

Yeah.

Yes.

But Lisa, I want to thank you so much for coming out and doing the show.

We really do appreciate it.

Thank you for having me on.

You guys are a lot of fun.

Thank you.

And tell us how people could find you, support you.

Tell us where you're going to be.

They can look up lisabushel.com, lisabouchelle.

Lisabouchell.com.

and then if they do that, then all the social media links from there.

But the website's really groovy, too.

We have, like, all the latest videos and mailing lists, sign up and all the merch and the swag and everything.

And, you know, it's a fun website.

So I would suggest do that when they also, all the shows are on there.

It'll say shows.

So that'll be any tours when my new record is about to drop.

But we're probably going to hold it till January rather than, you know, because we're mixing it right now.

So when that drops, that'll be on there as well as any tour dates that I'm doing, doing to promote that and all the local shows while I'm recording, I'll be local.

So thank you.

Let us know when the album comes out so we can help you push it.

Awesome.

Thank you so much.

You know, we want to listen to support.

We have, we have good followers and they'll do stuff like that for us.

So, hey, listen, again, thank you so much.

Thank you so much.

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Thank you so much.

We'll catch you next time on who's your band.

Thank you, everybody.