Do you get defensive the second your spouse says they're upset with you? Most of us do. We start correcting the facts, or we go straight to "poor me," and five minutes later nobody's talking about the original problem anymore.

We're Robert and Sharla, married for over three decades and coaching couples through the same struggles we've lived ourselves.

In this episode we talk about what Terry Real calls relational maturity, and his surprisingly simple test for it: “what do you do when your spouse is unhappy with you?” We tell on ourselves with the story of a porch swing Robert built, a creak that scared Sharla, and a lecture on snow loads that cost us the swing. Then we walk through four moves you can make the next time a complaint comes your way, and why owning more than you're asked to own is what calms your spouse down.

In this episode

• Why the first five seconds after "that bothered me" tell you so much
• The adaptive child, the wise adult, and where we each learned to handle complaints
• Pia Mellody's three ways we dodge responsibility (Sharla admits to using all of them in one sentence)
• Why defensiveness is really a way of keeping shame out
• The porch swing story, and the snow loads lecture
• Why a complaint is a one-way street, and Terry Real's customer service window
• The four moves: listen and reflect, acknowledge, own the pattern, give and let go
• Why saying "it's not the first time I've done this" can calm a fight down

A place to start this week The next time your spouse is unhappy with you, ask yourself which part of you is about to answer. Then try one move: "Here's what I heard. Did I get that right?"

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Related episodes

• Ep 169: Defensiveness Is a Self-Esteem Problem, and How to Fix It
• https://sharla-and-robert-snow.captivate.fm/episode/defensiveness-is-a-self-esteem-problem-and-how-to-fix-it
• Ep 98: Repair, Part 4 (we process a regrettable incident live)
• https://sharla-and-robert-snow.captivate.fm/episode/real-repair-what-happens-after-a-big-fight
• Ep 162: When Is It Okay Not to Forgive?
• https://sharla-and-robert-snow.captivate.fm/episode/when-is-it-okay-not-to-forgive-and-when-its-not

Resources mentioned

• Terry Real and Relational Life Therapy
• Terry Real, Us: Getting Past You and Me to Build a More Loving Relationship
• Pia Mellody, Facing Codependence
• The Gottman Institute (processing a regrettable incident): https://www.gottman.com

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