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Episode 18 — Michael Phillips | A Fight for Credibility, Not Just Money
Episode 183rd September 2026 • The Excuse • Joshua Boyt
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Michael Phillips — World Barista Champion, Blue Bottle veteran, educator — sits down with Joshua to talk about what specialty coffee's rise was really about. The competitions, the Cup of Excellence, the relentless push for quality: none of it was primarily about price. It was a fight for respect. A fight for credibility. And the money followed the credibility — not the other way around.

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