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[00:00:15] Jared Grifo: get it? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If you already have it, I mean, there's no reason to do any other fuel. Um, the, the upside of propane is, uh, that you actually, you get, uh, they're rated higher if you will.

[00:00:51] Jared Grifo: You have less horsepower. You're in, you need horsepower to turn it back. Right. When it comes to remodeling and renovating your home, there is a lot to [00:01:00] know, but we've got you covered. This is around the house. Welcome

[00:01:11] Eric Goranson: Thanks for joining us. This is going to be a powerful episode today. We got Jared Griffo from Power Equipment Direct. Let's talk power today, my friend. Welcome to

[00:01:25] Eric Goranson: That's going to be a lot of fun, man. And you know, it's, it's interesting and I'm a West coast guy.

[00:01:55] Eric Goranson: And I went, all right, guys, come into a city near you. This is going to be coming. And sure enough, we're [00:02:00] starting to see that when the red flag conditions go, you could be have. You could be shut down for two or three days and now it's a whole different ball game.

[00:02:21] Jared Grifo: And,

[00:02:42] Eric Goranson: If we didn't have crazy people soon, then we wouldn't have that stuff going on. I think they'd want to sell me power.

[00:02:58] Jared Grifo: Yep. I

[00:03:24] Eric Goranson: And then, of course, the podcast, we go internationally. So we got a lot of people. I don't want to talk about my local store down the street because 99 percent of you guys out there, you know, that ain't going to help me a

[00:03:42] Jared Grifo: I mean, really need it. We can get you out there, you know, with a volcano going off. But yeah, I mean, the, the, the grid's pretty rough. I mean, the, the Northeast is a, is a big market. Um, you know, it's a very old grid. Um, obviously, you know, Florida, Texas, where you [00:04:00] get the weather based outages and things like that.

[00:04:26] Jared Grifo: Well, yeah. And

[00:04:44] Eric Goranson: Cause I mean, it, my house is led. It's pretty efficient. I can run most of the house off it. Cause I think it's like a 10. 5 KW or whatever it is on that thing. So it's big. However, the problem is, is when I had power outage because of an ice storm for five days, I [00:05:00] think even though the thing's energy efficient, I used like 40 gallons of gas in that thing, which I don't keep 40 gallons of gas around the house.

[00:05:23] Eric Goranson: But. That's one of the issues when you just have that gas generator is that it's good for short times, but man, that was starting to get hassle trying to find gas. Yeah. Generators

[00:05:49] Jared Grifo: Yeah. So, I mean. Even with a big propane tank, you really got to calculate out how long of an outage you're planning on having, you know, it's out for a week, two days, three days, [00:06:00] you know, it's a lot of propane and you know, prices of fuels in general are just not great no matter which way you cut it. So,

[00:06:08] Eric Goranson: So it's pretty much I'm, I'm, I'm forced to go look at natural gas probably is how I'm going to have to do it on this. Yeah.

[00:06:30] Jared Grifo: It's everything's electric. So

[00:06:50] Eric Goranson: What do you guys, you know, what's some of your favorite stuff over there? I mean, it really

[00:07:17] Jared Grifo: So, you know, sometimes the portables just the way you have to go, but those have the limitation. Um, You know, you're not going to do any real HVAC or anything with a portable generator. And, you know, if I'm in Florida, I may want to run my HVAC. It's again, it's a necessity, not a want. Um, but yeah, I mean, starting, you know, portable generators, there's, there's some great units out there.

[00:08:01] Jared Grifo: So this generator will kick on and do its thing and I don't have to worry about it. And, you know, they've got. Fun stuff like, you know, wifi connectivity and it'll tell you if it turns on. So, you know, kind of moving into the 21st century with, with all that and they're getting a lot smarter and a lot better at what they do.

[00:08:17] Eric Goranson: I mean, that, and that's my thing. I mean, I have no problem, you know, I've got a battery powered garage door opener, so it'll back up on that. So I have no problem going over, open the garage door, the power out, dragging the generator on outside, plug in the cord into the side of the house where I got it and doing that.

[00:08:49] Eric Goranson: I just don't want to make her do it if she had to. Well,

[00:09:06] Jared Grifo: Maybe just have it turn on by itself, you know, it's

[00:09:23] Eric Goranson: And, uh, I mean, you guys have a lot of different. Brands, which I love. I mean, you guys go from like generac to Westinghouse to champion to a lot of the different, you know, even the Cummins ones, which are really cool. Those coming on own one and Honda and all the, all the big brands. Yeah. Where do people start out with kind of what, what would you recommend if, okay.

[00:09:53] Jared Grifo: Exactly. I mean, starting out, I really, to simplify it, if you just want to run your home, [00:10:00] 8, 000 watts will cover pretty much most of everybody.

[00:10:26] Jared Grifo: I can utilize all that power. So, I mean, just to make it simple, you know, 8, 000 watts, if you're basic, just your necessities around the house, if you want more, move up to, you know, 10, 12, 000. And that'll cover your house. And there's just a plethora of generators out there that, and you'll see most of them in that, that range due to that fact.

[00:10:48] Eric Goranson: and, and the other thing too, is that, you know, you and I haven't talked about this, but it's just one of the things that I'm always concerned about, man, is okay. And then now people have that. F 1 50 or the, or the, uh, you know, the new, [00:11:00] the new truck car that they got to charge. Right. So all of a sudden you've got, okay, cool.

[00:11:21] Eric Goranson: So you got some quote unquote fuel to get there. Yeah.

[00:11:41] Jared Grifo: And so, you know, sizing or helping my customers size to that. It's like, well, what do you have? And they don't know, you know, unfortunately, I don't expect them to, you know, they had somebody installed to their house, which they should, you know, you need a professional. And so, you know, whether it's a, you know, Tesla or a Ford or this and that, they're all going to vary.

[00:12:16] Eric Goranson: Um, well, you're so right about the Chargers though, man.

[00:12:34] Jared Grifo: huge.

[00:12:41] Eric Goranson: So now you're grabbing out your, you know, level two charger or something like you said that to put that in there, but you're not hooking that up to a portable generator very easily.

[00:12:59] Jared Grifo: [00:13:00] Sure. There comes an issue with, um, not to go over people's head, but GFCI stuff. Yeah! So, you have bonded neutrals and this and that, and that actually takes a specific transfer switch that breaks the neutral, otherwise it will trip the breaker every time you go to plug it in. And we see that with a lot of professional generators out there because OSHA regulates, it has to have GFCI across the entire, uh, front panel hadn't thought of that.

[00:13:46] Jared Grifo: I got the art

[00:14:04] Eric Goranson: Great point.

[00:14:12] Eric Goranson: now. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, they, I saw one almost a year ago, so, yeah. I mean, that's when they were first bringing it out, so, but uh, yeah, I mean, and yeah, that's gonna be a problem.

[00:14:37] Eric Goranson: I got to get that thing. Oh, there goes the power.

[00:14:55] Eric Goranson: Yeah, well, I've heard, you know, here's the other thing I heard from people in the RV world [00:15:00] out there.

[00:15:22] Eric Goranson: And, uh, there's been a lot of issues talking to people in the RV world that are taking out there, you know, that are towing around the Tesla, or they got it, you know, towing the electric vehicle around that they go plug it in at the campsite and it's taking the whole campsite down.

[00:15:49] Jared Grifo: I mean, people were buying RVs with no generator on them that need a generator and they're waiting years for those to come out. But, uh, yeah, I couldn't imagine that. I mean, I, I never [00:16:00] thought that. You know, having to charge your vehicle is going to take down a whole grid and people are trying to enjoy their, their weekend.

[00:16:07] Eric Goranson: exactly. Yeah. It's, it's, it's wild. So how are you guys doing on, on inventory and stuff too? I just want to ask that question. Cause I know we've had hurricanes now we had COVID we've had all the different, you know, I know everybody's here tired of hearing about the supply chain issues, but they were real.

[00:16:25] Jared Grifo: stock. Surprisingly, yeah, I mean, uh, it seems like most of the major brands out there, you know, we, we, we sell everything we sell, or at least for standbys, Generac, Kohler, Briggs, Cummins, you know, the, the big major brands. And they're all doing actually pretty well on, you know, the, they're more popular items.

[00:17:04] Jared Grifo: We do have specific generators that have to ship into California. Um, they have to have like catalytic converters on them. And this is for. Even propane and natural gas. Oh, so

[00:17:27] Eric Goranson: Okay. Yeah, I get it. What's the, what's the most common size of let's jump over into standbys a little bit because I know people see him, but I don't think they really understand how that all works. I mean, they're a great unit that you can slam in there, you know, next to your house, but you got to sit there.

[00:17:59] Jared Grifo: [00:18:00] Yeah.

[00:18:18] Eric Goranson: I mean, you'll be as charged.

[00:18:36] Eric Goranson: So, you know, you're watching the game and the game's still on, you know? Yeah. Just, you don't wanna have to mess with that at that point. That's the whole ro that's the whole reason of getting that right. I mean, it's true. It's the power, everything. So, yeah.

[00:18:53] Jared Grifo: For 26, 000 Watts. Yeah. Right around there. That's, that's pretty much where we stay. Um, [00:19:00] again, lower wattages, there's nothing wrong with them. It's just, you know, and when you're at, you know, 24, 000 Watts, you're talking, that's a hundred amps. That's if you have a 200 amp panel, you're feeding half of everything.

[00:19:34] Jared Grifo: Now, you know, 18 older for so on and so forth. So when we are dealing with, you know, again, Texas and Florida, which everything's bigger in Texas anyways, but, uh, but you know, they got two, two, five ton air conditioners and the generators need to compensate for that startup surge. You know, of a five ton, even with the very efficient stuff out there now with HVAC, you're still talking, you know, maybe surging [00:20:00] to a hundred, 120 amps instantaneously.

[00:20:03] Eric Goranson: So I hadn't thought about the surge. Cause yeah, like, like my AC unit, I just put a brand new, uh, uh, one end that's variable speed and everything, but that thing, you know, it's, everything's all digital motors and stuff on it, but still that thing is still using a 30 amp breaker. The AC side of things, you know, the furnace side as far as, as far as gas, but yeah, hadn't thought about it.

[00:20:26] Jared Grifo: something like that. Yeah. We, we kind of take that for granted with regular power because it's pretty much unlimited, you know, it starts up, we don't care, you know, maybe the lights dim a little bit when my AC fires up, you know, the, the grid doesn't really care, but the generators do.

[00:20:52] Eric Goranson: thought I had on mine. I put the, you know, I went from a gas water heater to electric, but I went to the heat pump water heater, which is great.

[00:21:24] Eric Goranson: And with led lights, they're sure helping

[00:21:40] Eric Goranson: You're almost better to go buy a convert over to the water heater.

[00:21:57] Jared Grifo: absolutely. That makes sense. [00:22:00] Um, what are those the on demand water heaters?

[00:22:04] Eric Goranson: well, the electric, they're great. The electric ones, I'm sure are a headache for you guys that the electric on demand ones, because all of a sudden those are pulling 70. It's 70, you know, amps on that thing. Cause those things are not efficient. Just the coil.

[00:22:20] Jared Grifo: Just pull up tons of power. Yeah,

[00:22:39] Eric Goranson: Do you just kind of start working on, on the. How big a panel it is. And then kind of based on the, the AC tonnage as well.

[00:22:59] Jared Grifo: You can actually [00:23:00] go down and it'll kind of just spit out a list of generators. We actually have one on our site that works great and it actually will. We, we try to oversize about 20 percent gives the generator a little breathing room. So, you know, if you are using it towards the max, you know, you're not really, you know, working it very hard, but I mean, the, the sizing calculators work fantastic.

[00:23:39] Jared Grifo: Um, a lot of places, you know, even I've dealt with it, even in California, they require a load calculation to be done before install anyways. Oh, cool. Make sure that we're actually meeting the needs of, of that home. So smart. Yeah. But it, it can cause issues. I mean, [00:24:00] because you're not, you know, you and I know we're never drawing 200 amps off a 200 amp panel.

[00:24:06] Eric Goranson: you're undersized on the panel, to be honest, I mean, you're, you're, you're, you're loading that

[00:24:27] Jared Grifo: You know, it's, if you get something in the hundred amp range, cover half of your panel, usually it's going to be perfectly fine. You don't have to worry about much unless you have a gigantic home or, you know, a 400 amp panels split services, it starts to get a little messy, which we do deal with that. We actually have switches.

[00:25:03] Jared Grifo: Your code may need it.

[00:25:23] Eric Goranson: Kind of doing their due diligence on, on just kind of looking around, thinking about what they want to get. So AC

[00:25:45] Jared Grifo: Let's say, let's say I have a hot tub, right? I really don't care that my hot tubs on, but that thing's on a 50 amp breaker. And you know, it's going to just draw half of the power of my generator all the time. You can use the load [00:26:00] shedding to actually either shut it down, you know, if it's going to overload the system, or you can actually completely lock out.

[00:26:24] Eric Goranson: that's great for hot tubs and pools and things like that, that you're like, I'm not worried about it today.

[00:26:42] Jared Grifo: Well, the, one of the great uses for it is, uh, if you have multiple AC units.

[00:27:07] Jared Grifo: So it's just a simpler way of not having to load manage yourself, you know, go and shut off breaking breakers.

[00:27:28] Eric Goranson: Each manufacturer, so

[00:27:49] Jared Grifo: They're not actually using like wifi or anything. They send a signal over the neutral wire of the home. So it knows that the generator's on.

[00:27:59] Jared Grifo: Yeah. [00:28:00] But I guess to bring it, bring it back, they can only be used on two 40 volt items. Oh, yeah, because of that, that

[00:28:14] Eric Goranson: So, yeah, coming in. So that makes sense. Okay. Yeah,

[00:28:32] Jared Grifo: Well, if the generator turns on, the inverter says, Hey, we got power back. And now it starts back to the generator, which is a no, no. Yeah. So what we do is we put one of those on that breaker. It locks out power from going to that. Inverter, and then the generator shuts down, unlocks that module and allows it to back that

[00:28:58] Eric Goranson: Yeah, and the [00:29:00] solar is not bringing enough to power the house because it's only kicking a little bit out. Ah. And they thought everything on that. I love it. I love it. So is most everybody doing on those standbys? Are they pretty much is natural gas pretty much the most common way to go? It's

[00:29:16] Jared Grifo: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If you already have it, I mean, there's no reason to do any other fuel. Um, the, the upside of propane is, uh, that you actually do get. Um, they're rated higher, if you will. So there's, there's more energy and propane, so you'll see a lot of these generators are actually rated at their propane rating.

[00:29:58] Eric Goranson: So, [00:30:00] so it's like when you're, when you got a car that's flux fuel and you go use the E85, all of a sudden it's like, Hey, that's cool.

[00:30:11] Jared Grifo: Yeah, it cuts down your power. And then it also like drains your fuel tank. Cause it takes two times the amount.

[00:30:25] Eric Goranson: You gotta have a. You know, a solid, like what you see at the gas station style propane tank. If you're going to lose power for four or five

[00:30:44] Eric Goranson: bury it.

[00:30:47] Jared Grifo: Yeah, I've had HOAs that made people paint their generator the same color as the house. Oh, just a minute. So everything matches and

[00:31:05] Eric Goranson: So, oh yeah, that's hadn't thought about that, but that's the thing with those big tanks. You got to figure out where to put those things and have access for the propane company to come out and fill it up too.

[00:31:23] Jared Grifo: So if I'm, you know, got a 250 gallon tank. It's below 40 degrees. I might only have like a hundred usable gallons in there. Oh yeah. So, and my BCUs,

[00:31:41] Jared Grifo: Oh yeah, definitely

[00:31:49] Eric Goranson: Yep. They're smart on that. Okay. That makes sense. That makes sense. I like that. And does anybody on the residential side do anything like diesel or stuff? Or is that pretty much more [00:32:00] commercial farmers,

[00:32:04] Jared Grifo: They have a ton of diesel on their property. Why not? Yeah.

[00:32:09] Jared Grifo: And they can use that. I guess the biggest misconception is people think they can use heating oil in them. And yeah, no, that will just destroy a generator. I've had, I've had too dirty, right?

[00:32:47] Jared Grifo: Yeah. Different animal though,

[00:32:56] Jared Grifo: Yeah. That makes more sense on that aspect. Or, uh, we have a [00:33:00] lot of, uh, PTO driven generators. Oh, I hadn't thought of that. Yeah.

[00:33:10] Eric Goranson: And the power's there. The tractor tractors used to run and all that time. And you can just, I forgot, totally forgot about PTO. That's

[00:33:23] Jared Grifo: They're so simple. And

[00:33:43] Eric Goranson: And, uh, turn on the, the, you know, maybe the mower deck that's behind them or whatever else they're dragging around. So instead of running that blade, you can put on a generator and run your, your power that way. So hadn't thought of that because now all of a sudden you don't have to worry about a power source.

[00:34:09] Jared Grifo: No, they're, they're actually fantastic. I mean, obviously these people have invested a lot of money in a tractor. We're not talking like, you know, a regular lawnmower or anything like that.

[00:34:24] Eric Goranson: people's houses in our list of the audience. Let's get serious. Yeah. Nice. Oh. Yeah, those tractors, some of those tractors. And if, if you're not in a farm area, uh, when I was in high school, I'll tell this funny story and you'll kind of laugh.

[00:34:56] Eric Goranson: 11 o'clock at night. We got everybody stuck. We'd always have one person. [00:35:00] We'd drive like 10 miles on the freeway, go over to the tractor dealerships. Cause all my buddies worked there. We'd get the flag cars and run the tractor out the freeway in the middle of the night, go out there, pull everybody out, run it back, spray it off, put it back up in the line.

[00:35:33] Jared Grifo: See, that's just normal around here. I mean, we're in Illinois. So, you know, Illinois, if you're not in Chicago, you're in a farmland. I mean, that's pretty much it or Chicago, which we're in the burbs, but.

[00:35:55] Eric Goranson: Brilliant. Brilliant. And then you guys do also the service on the RV [00:36:00] and replacements on RV generators as well. Right?

[00:36:04] Eric Goranson: um, yeah,

[00:36:18] Jared Grifo: On your, your RV or your truck, or, I mean, we even sell commercial models for like boom trucks. They'll have like a, again, a PTO or a hydraulic pump driven on for the hydraulics, but, uh, yeah, uh, just strictly sales. Okay,

[00:36:38] Eric Goranson: You also got to make sure it fits in the

[00:36:53] Jared Grifo: So sorry, sorry, sorry.

[00:37:27] Eric Goranson: Yeah,

[00:37:48] Jared Grifo: So the small, little generators, you know, um, some of the Hondas and, you know, a champion makes a good ones and then Westinghouse, um, basically what they do is they [00:38:00] take the power out of the generator, they turn it into DC, and then they turn it back to AC, which makes it extremely clean. So a very clean sine wave.

[00:38:35] Jared Grifo: So, uh, those are a little bit, uh, tricky to size for, but yeah, the low inverters are fantastic. You know, you use it for camping, you can use it for RVs. You can even use it for home use, you know, if you're just trying to run

[00:38:56] Eric Goranson: I've had no issues as far as that, you know, other than [00:39:00] massive gas consumption. But other than that, you know, it gets the job done. I mean,

[00:39:16] Jared Grifo: So 3, 600 RPM with the magnet. Well, the inverters, because they're taking in that power, they can almost work like a three phase where they can lower their RPMs to let's say 2, 500 RPM. So you'll conserve on fuel because it doesn't have to put out a lot of power.

[00:39:35] Jared Grifo: makes sense.

[00:39:39] Eric Goranson: couple of gallons, right? Oh yeah. I'm due for an upgrade. I think it's one of those things that I'll probably be getting ahold of you guys for, for doing a standby one of these days. Cause it's just going to have to be that way. And I mean, I've got, um, you know, I kind of have that, uh, uh, it's one of the reliance, you know, manual switch over switches, which works great, but [00:40:00] that's only 30 amps.

[00:40:22] Eric Goranson: Or is 30 amps pretty much the biggest they do for that? I guess that's the question that have you seen anything bigger that on those transfer switches?

[00:40:38] Jared Grifo: And then even on top of that, we've got like whole house type switches where almost like an interlock, but, uh, what it'll do is it's rated for like 200 amps on one end and then on the opposite side, you'll have like a 50 amp or 125 amp breaker shut off the main. Flip or shut off that main breaker, flip it over to, uh, the generator side.

[00:41:04] Eric Goranson: That's cool. That's cool. Yeah. If I wanted to take that project on, that might be a way to go, but, uh, I think I'm just going to have to go the other direction with that, you know,

[00:41:16] Jared Grifo: Cause you have to pull the meter can't, you can't. It has to be installed before the main breaker. So, yep. Well, I

[00:41:32] Jared Grifo: Yeah, those are actually pretty awesome.

[00:41:50] Jared Grifo: Um, you know, beyond that, if you just get a, you know, like a reliance switch, 30 amp with 10 circuits or however many you need, uh, they work very [00:42:00] well, you know? Yeah. It's mine's

[00:42:07] Jared Grifo: like the fact that you're not flipping on and off breakers.

[00:42:22] Eric Goranson: Oh yeah. I mean, I can't tell you how many commercial, you know, you think about commercial buildings all the time, people go in and turn the warehouse lights on and they're clicking breakers every morning when they leave, they're clicking.

[00:42:34] Jared Grifo: designed to do that. No, that's how you wear that

[00:43:00] Jared Grifo: Um, I guess one of the genres that we didn't cover is the batteries. So there's a lot of batteries, everybody's got batteries now, it's, it's the hot new thing, right? Um, if you are buying something along those lines, be careful of the limitations. A lot of people don't understand what a watt hour is. Um, you know, so if I have a thousand watt hour generator, or.

[00:43:53] Eric Goranson: systems.

[00:44:04] Jared Grifo: them. Yeah. Yeah. It's a, almost like a, just a gigantic UPS system. Yeah.

[00:44:13] Jared Grifo: that's right in your house.

[00:44:39] Jared Grifo: Nice. So that's kind of nice. You know, the US isn't terrible. I mean, so certain places are, um, as far as grid power, but. Uh, it definitely is a great option, a little pricey. I mean, this comes with the technology, you know, it's new. It's that shiny new thing. Everybody wants it. So,

[00:45:05] Jared Grifo: Uh, they're quite a bit more, I mean, if you're looking for backup power, I don't think you're going to beat the pricing on a generator. Okay, that's what I was thinking, because you're talking, you know, they say, you know, for a good system, probably 30 grand, and that's like batteries. You'll be running for days off batteries, but yeah.

[00:45:27] Eric Goranson: yeah, yeah, that's, uh, my, my, I want to wait till technology gets a little bit better. And that price goes down if you're thinking battery to me

[00:45:43] Eric Goranson: I noticed recently that, uh, Tesla and their solar roof. Kind of just got quiet and went away. I saw that, uh, heard from some listeners that had, uh, that, uh, had scheduled installs and all of a sudden they went, um, no longer available [00:46:00] and gave them their deposits, showed up in their bank account and, uh, off they went.

[00:46:11] Jared Grifo: Yeah, with the limitation on certain things, you know, there's still micro processors and stuff like that, uh, you know, it's, it's a weird market and I think, uh, Tesla's always ahead of the game, but maybe too far ahead where they don't see, you know, the market changes so quickly that, you know, they're all great intentions, but.

[00:46:32] Eric Goranson: they're just, they're just, you know, being the leader sometimes means it means you get your head hand slapped a few times too. So it does. But I tell you what, they are the worst as far as the media trying to get ahold of those guys to talk about something. It is. It's easier to talk to a manager at Apple than it is a Tesla.

[00:46:51] Jared Grifo: you can probably get ahold of Elon Musk on Twitter easily, more easily than talking to one of their PR people.

[00:47:11] Eric Goranson: They're like, all right. That's their game. They're just

[00:47:18] Eric Goranson: 14 herbs and spices.

[00:47:29] Jared Grifo: Uh, no, the batteries are great. Um, You know, as far as generators go, if you really are interested in them, you know, give us a call or, you know, there's tons of information online.

[00:48:04] Eric Goranson: right?

[00:48:26] Eric Goranson: Yeah.

[00:48:43] Jared Grifo: Yeah. And it's like, well, you know, some people just don't need that. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's, it's, it's

[00:48:53] Jared Grifo: with that short cycling and humid in your house. Yeah.

[00:49:07] Eric Goranson: That can't be that great for it either. Yeah. You'd think you'd want to kind of have it sized correctly. Yeah. I mean,

[00:49:32] Jared Grifo: So those are a little bit more finicky. But again, most people that are buying diesels up Pretty much know what they want. You're not going to come into it. You know, come on, call me up being like, I want this 18, 000 generator on my house, you know, you're doing a little bit more research. Amen.

[00:49:52] Eric Goranson: This has been great today, man. And, uh, best place to, for people to get ahold of you is over at, uh, power equipment, direct at power equipment, direct. com or give [00:50:00] you a call on the phone.

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[00:50:34] Eric Goranson: That's great. And thanks for that promo. Who doesn't want 50 bucks? Right? Yeah. I mean, especially nowadays. Right. That'll fill one of the tanks up in a truck. Maybe. Yeah. Fill the tank in your generator. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. Haha. That's awesome. Well, thanks for taking the time today, man.

[00:50:55] Jared Grifo: I appreciate it. Thanks for having me on. Thanks Jared.