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AIP Community Q2 Update: Events, Advocacy & Research (Ep 081)
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Episode 81: AIP Community Update — Events, Advocacy & Research

Living with autoimmune disease is deeply personal—but the systems that shape diagnosis, treatment options, and long-term outcomes extend far beyond the individual. Research advancements, policy decisions, and community-led initiatives all play a role in what care looks like today—and what becomes possible in the future.

In this second Quarterly Community Update episode of the Autoimmune Wellness Podcast, Mickey Trescott zooms out to explore what’s currently unfolding across the autoimmune landscape. These quarterly conversations are designed to keep you informed and grounded—without overwhelm—so you can better understand the bigger picture while navigating your own healing journey.

This episode focuses on three key areas shaping autoimmune care in real time: research, advocacy, and community education. Mickey is joined by three returning contributors who bring both professional expertise and lived experience to these important conversations.

First, Sybil Cooper, PhD, immunologist and AIP Certified Coach, breaks down emerging research on CAR-T therapy—an innovative and highly targeted treatment approach that may transform how autoimmune disease is treated in the future.

Next, Jamie-Nicole Martin, chronic illness advocate and founder of the AIP BIPOC Network, shares insights from recent advocacy efforts in Washington, DC, along with updates on community-driven initiatives like the ROCK Summit and ROCK the Block, which aim to improve awareness, access, and equity in autoimmune care.

Finally, Jaime Hartman, National Board Certified Health & Wellness Coach, AIP Summit organizer, and co-teacher of the AIP Certified Coach Program, discusses trends within the AIP community, including how coaching support is evolving and how more practitioners worldwide are integrating AIP into their work.

Together, these conversations highlight how innovation in research, progress in advocacy, and growth in community education are all interconnected—and why they matter for anyone living with autoimmune disease.

In this episode, you’ll learn:

  • What CAR-T therapy is and why it represents a promising new direction in autoimmune treatment
  • How CAR-T differs from traditional systemic treatments by targeting specific immune cells
  • Why this research could shift the conversation from symptom management toward potential remission or cure
  • How advocacy efforts are pushing for increased autoimmune research funding and policy change
  • The role of the Office of Autoimmune Disease Research and why coordinated data matters
  • Common barriers patients face with insurance, including step therapy and copay policies
  • How community-based events like ROCK the Block and ROCK Summit are improving awareness and access
  • Why advocacy happens at both the individual and systems level—and how they connect
  • Where people commonly get stuck on AIP, especially during reintroductions
  • How AIP Certified Coaches provide personalized support to help navigate those challenges
  • How the AIP community is expanding globally, with more practitioners and diverse specialties
  • Practical ways to find AIP-trained support and connect with ongoing education

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Episode Timeline:

00:00 – Introduction to the Quarterly Community Update series

01:10 – Meet the recurring contributors

02:31 – Research update with Sybil Cooper, PhD

03:07 – What is CAR-T therapy?

07:08 – Future implications of CAR-T for autoimmune disease

10:33 – Advocacy update with Jamie-Nicole Martin

11:25 – Autoimmune Association fly-in and policy efforts

16:25 – ROCK Summit & ROCK the Block recap

20:07 – Upcoming initiatives from AIP BIPOC Network

21:49 – Community trends with Jaime Hartman

22:47 – How AIP Certified Coaches support clients

25:59 – Trends in the current AIP coaching community

28:50 – How to find the right AIP Certified Coach

32:02 – Closing reflections and wrap-up

Transcripts

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Autoimmune wellness doesn't just happen in isolation.

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It's shaped by a constantly evolving landscape of research,

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advocacy, and community.

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And while most of us are focused on what's right in front of us, managing

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our symptoms, making daily decisions, cooking for ourselves, and figuring

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out what works, there are also bigger shifts happening in the background

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that directly impact the care that we receive and the options available to us.

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That's what this series is all about.

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Welcome back to the Autoimmune Wellness Podcast.

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I'm your host, Mickey Trescott.

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This is our quarter two community update, part of a series where we

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take a step back, zoom out, and look at what's happening across the

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autoimmune space in a way that feels grounded, relevant, and accessible.

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Each quarter we focus on three areas that are shaping autoimmune care in real

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research, advocacy, and community.

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The details might change, but these pillars and the voices guiding us

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through them remain consistent.

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If you tuned into the quarter one update, these voices will be familiar, but if

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not, I'll introduce them again right now.

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First, Sybil Cooper joins us to help break down what's

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happening on the research side.

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Sybil is a PhD trained immunologist, an AIP Certified Coach and a functional

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medicine trained health coach.

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She brings together scientific expertise and lived experience to translate

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complex research into something that is relevant and actionable.

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Next, Jamie-Nicole Martin joins us to talk about advocacy and autoimmune awareness.

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Jamie is a chronic illness advocate and the founder and

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CEO of the AIP BIPOC Network.

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Through her work, she focuses on building community, increasing

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access, and creating more equitable and inclusive support systems for

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people living with autoimmune disease.

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And finally, Jamie Hartman joins us to share what's happening

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across the broader AIP community.

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Jamie is a national board certified health and wellness coach and

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my partner and co-teacher in the AIP Certified Coach program.

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With a background in educational psychology and decades of experience

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in teaching and program development, she plays a key role in shaping how

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AIP education is delivered and how this community continues to grow.

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Before we dive in, a quick reminder that this podcast is intended for educational

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and informational purposes only.

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These conversations are not meant to diagnose, treat, or replace medical care,

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and always consult with your healthcare provider before making changes to your

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diet, lifestyle, or treatment plan.

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To start this update, I want to zoom out a bit and talk about something

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that's happening on the research side that's been getting a lot of attention.

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And that's CAR-T therapy.

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Now, this is one of those topics that can sound really technical or even a

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little intimidating at first, but it's also one of the most exciting areas

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of research right now, especially as scientists begin to explore how it

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might apply to autoimmune disease.

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So to help us understand what this actually means and why it matters,

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we're going to get immunologist Sybil Cooper on the line.

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Sybil.

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Thank you so much for being here.

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Sybil Cooper, PhD: Oh, thank you for having me.

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So we're going to jump in and just start with some basics.

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CAR-T therapy is something people are starting to hear about more,

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especially in the autoimmune community, but it can sound really complex.

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Can you explain what it is in a way that helps us understand what's happening?

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Sybil Cooper, PhD: So we have two types of lymphocytes.

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T cells and B cells.

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B cells are producing all the antibodies that we know and love

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that we're often tracking when someone has an autoimmune disease.

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T cells are our soldiers that are going to go out and fight directly

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on the front line to kill tumor cells, virally infected cells.

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They also provide help in the form of various growth factors for the B cells

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so that the B cells can do their job.

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So what we're trying to do, instead of having our T cells go out and target

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a cancer cell or target a virally infected cell, we are going to change

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those GPS coordinates in our T cell and direct them to kill the B cells that

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are producing these rogue antibodies that are leading to autoimmune

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conditions such as lupus and myasthenia.

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So think of it as now we're not just giving them the city

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that we want them to go to.

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We're giving them the precise coordinates, the exact house on the street, in the

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town, in the county, in the state, that we want those cells to target.

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When I learned about it, traditional medications

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that treat autoimmune disease are pretty systemic, and even with

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immunosuppression, its very broad.

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Right?

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And so I love how you described that as so targeted.

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And the history of CAR-T is in the context of cancer.

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Can you talk a little bit about what makes this approach so interesting or promising

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for conditions like autoimmune disease where the immune system just has a little

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misdirection in that GPS coordinate?

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Sybil Cooper, PhD: Yeah, it's actually simpler with less complications

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to apply it to autoimmunity.

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Because with cancer you have a very large tumor burden.

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So in order to make space for the CAR-T cells that we're injecting, and

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those T cells come from the person.

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They're modified and then they're put back into the person.

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So this is definitely precision medicine.

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We call that an autologous T-cell transfer.

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So you have to make room for those lymphocytes in the cancer patient.

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So they have to go through a radiation, and that presents

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long-term health consequences.

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We don't have to do that for autoimmunity because the number of cells that

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are misbehaving are very small.

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And so it's actually done in an outpatient infusion center.

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The symptoms that most people report even in the controls are just some fever,

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fatigue, muscle aches for 24 hours.

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People felt well enough to go back to work.

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So in that sense it's much easier to implement CAR-T therapy for

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autoimmunity than it is for cancer.

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And as you pointed out, the drawbacks of our current therapies is that they're

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systemic and it leaves the person often susceptible to other infections, right?

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And the more precise we can be, the less of those side effects are anticipated.

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Well, I'm just so grateful to hear about this research

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because we have so many people in the autoimmune community who are

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not experiencing a relief from their symptoms, sometimes very debilitating.

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I also want to clarify that this is a therapy that right now is really being

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studied, it's not really something that everybody has access to, but if you

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have a certain condition, you might be able to get in a clinical trial.

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Sybil, with somebody living with autoimmune disease, how should

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we think about CAR-T right now?

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Is this still really in the experimental category or something that could

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realistically change treatment options in the near future for us?

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Sybil Cooper, PhD: So up until last year I think there were several phase two

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trials, and I think the one for myasthenia was moving into phase three, which means

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they're actually getting pretty close.

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So the early studies are done with just a handful of patients, you know,

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3, 5, 10, 15 people in order to show that it's safe in the short term.

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And then the next phase is to determine what is the best sequence of events.

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For a lot of these, it's like weekly infusions for six weeks and then the

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next phase after that is doing the double blind placebo controlled trials

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where you actually get the scientific data to show that the response rate

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that you get with the CAR-T therapy is better than what you get with placebo.

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And that way the people don't know what they're getting and their physicians

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don't know what they're getting.

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And so after that waiting, six months, a year, two years, three years to see what

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the outcomes are, how long is remission.

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But it's really the first time that I think as a whole, anyone has ever dared

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to think of a cure for an autoimmune disease as opposed to management.

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And so the data has been pretty compelling so far that people are disease

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free up until 18 months to two years.

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I think for the lupus and the myasthenia trials.

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For myasthenia, I think they had to do a second infusion.

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And granted, we're talking about two patients.

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So the key is to see how broadly this data applies to 75 or 85 or 90% of people

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with myasthenia or people with Lupus.

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But it is extremely, extremely promising and that the side

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effects are very, very minor.

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And we would anticipate that the long-term effects are very minor as well compared

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to like using CAR-T and cancer treatments.

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Yeah.

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Thank you so much for breaking this down for us.

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I know there's a segment of our community who really don't experience help

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with a lot of medical interventions, and so this is really exciting new

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research coming down the pipeline.

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What it sounds like to me is that they've figured out a way to either

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temporarily or potentially long term, make the immune system forget that

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original mismatch, which is just such an interesting way to think

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about solving this problem long term.

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I'm really excited about this research and I appreciate how you made something

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that feels really complex, understandable.

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You definitely have a gift for that.

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So thank you so much for being here.

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Sybil Cooper, PhD: Thank you.

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and sharing with

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Sybil Cooper, PhD: I enjoy it.

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I think that what stands out to me after that conversation

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is this, while research like this is incredibly promising, it also

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highlights how important that autoimmune disease continues to be a priority

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in research, funding, and policy.

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Because the reality is progress doesn't just happen in the lab,

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it also happens through advocacy.

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So for this next segment, I want to shift to that side of the conversation.

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I'm really excited to bring in Jamie Nicole Martin.

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Jamie is a chronic illness advocate and the founder and

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CEO of the AIP BIPOC Network.

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She's someone who is actively working to make autoimmune disease

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more visible, not just in our communities, but at the systems level.

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We were actually just together in Washington DC for the Autoimmune

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Association Advocacy fly-in, so this is all very fresh.

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Alright, let's get Jamie on the line.

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Jamie, it is so good to have you here.

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How are you?

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Jamie-Nicole Martin: Thank you for having me.

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I'm doing wonderful.

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And we were just together in DC and I think for

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a lot of people listening that's might be something they've never

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even heard of before, a fly-in.

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Can you share a little bit about what that experience was and what the purpose

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of that kind of advocacy work is?

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Jamie-Nicole Martin: Absolutely.

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So in general, we went with the Autoimmune Association, but in general, several

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advocacy organizations do what we call fly-ins, where they fly in advocates

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from across the country to come and advocate for a particular issue.

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And so, for this fly-in, we were advocating for all of those across the

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nation with autoimmune disease, I believe.

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The Autoimmune Association says over 50 million people who

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have it in the United States.

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So Jamie, can you tell us just in brief a little bit

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about some of the legislation that we were advocating for on Capitol Hill?

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Jamie-Nicole Martin: The primary one was advocating for more funding for the

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Office of Autoimmune Disease Research.

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And so we're excited that we have that because we only had that

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established a couple of years ago.

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It sits under NIH.

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And so it's basically about developing a national autoimmune research strategy,

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of identifying those gaps across the diseases because there's over a hundred

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different types of autoimmune disease.

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So unlike, I guess diseases like cancer, there's no defined strategy.

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There's no defined database to coordinate all of those efforts, which really is

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a barrier to creating defined research that we can all use and benefit from, and

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supporting a shared data infrastructure.

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Right now we have data that is basically siloed in different areas

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where we're all doing our individual research, different organizations,

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different institutions, but it's not centralized, so we can benefit from that

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research and move the needle forward.

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Jamie, I was shocked to find out that within the

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NIH, so cancer affects 30 million Americans and they get $7.5 billion

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every year in funding for research.

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You guys, autoimmune disease affects 50 million Americans.

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That Office of Autoimmune Disease Research that was just started in

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2023, they only get $10 million dollars and I think they're asking

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for $180, which is like a rounding error when we look at the NIH budget.

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So I think, yeah, Jamie, you did a great job just talking about just how wild it

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is and some of the barriers, it's not that people don't want that research

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or they don't know that it's important.

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It's just that autoimmune disease, 'cause our experiences

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as patients, we get diagnosed by all these different specialties.

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We know how frustrating it is with the medical system because

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they don't understand us.

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Well it's the same issue in the research side.

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And so, yeah, that's what we're doing is doing some advocacy work to help

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collaborate between all of those specialties and help develop some

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more treatments and studies and like diet and lifestyle studies are very

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popular, so of course that's the thing that we are all really excited about.

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So, right, Jamie?

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Jamie-Nicole Martin: Absolutely.

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And some of the other issues that we advocated for were step therapy.

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If you've never heard of that, it's where even though you and your doctor

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agreed that there's a certain medication that would work best for you for

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whatever reason, we all know the reason.

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Your insurance company wants you to start at the lowest level of

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medication and work your way up.

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This can affect patients in many different ways.

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If you switch insurance companies and you've already gone through

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that process and you're now on a medication that works for you, if

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you switch insurance companies, sometimes they make you start all over.

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So now you have to go through the process of going through flares

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medications not working just because you were forced for whatever reason

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to switch insurance companies.

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Another one briefly was the Help Copays Act where we are able to

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receive rebates to go against our deductible for our, our medications.

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And the, for whatever reason, the insurance company is not

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applying that to our deductible.

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So we end up paying more out of pocket than we originally anticipated.

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And those rebates are are given to help us with the financial

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burden of those medications.

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And it's not passed along to us in the, in the long run.

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And then finally, 340B, its a program with community clinics, hospitals to

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provide reduced cost to prescription medication to patients, but not all

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the time are those companies or those community clinics or clinics in general

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passing that savings onto the patient.

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And so that's part of why Mickey and I went to this fly in.

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So we can advocate for those who are facing this issues on a different

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level than just the individual level through the Autoimmune Protocol.

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Thanks for explaining that.

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Jamie and I think anybody who has a medication that is very specialized

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to treat their autoimmune disease, you probably have come across some

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of these issues with rebates and step therapy, and these are things that

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really affect a lot of autoimmune patients and their ability to connect

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with the medication that helps them live their best lives in collaboration

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with their healthcare provider.

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There's actually a lot of great options that people don't access to these days.

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So we're trying to help make that better.

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So Jamie, alongside this systems level work, you're also doing so

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much to bring advocacy into your community in a very tangible way.

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We talked last time about the two ROCK events that you were

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about to have in Houston.

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Can you give us a little recap and tell us about how those

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went and what stood out to you?

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Jamie-Nicole Martin: Absolutely.

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I'm so excited to talk about that as well.

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I'll talk about Saturday first, which is Rock the Block, Reaching Our

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Communities and Kids, community facing.

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We had over 400 participants.

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We had over 50 vendors.

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And I say vendors, but they were access to resources that

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the community actually needs.

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And we had blood pressure checks, blood sugar checks, information on autoimmune

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disease, anything you can possibly want from maternal health to senior health.

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And we had a great time doing it.

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So what I, don't want to get emotional about it, love most about this event is

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the look on people's eyes when I explain why, and they made that connection,

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oh, something may be wrong with me.

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Oh, I need to tell this to my doctor.

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They were going to the doctor, not even describing the symptoms because they felt

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as though, oh, it just runs in my family.

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Oh, it's hereditary, not making that connection.

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So through that event, we were able to make that connection.

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And so the day before, non-community facing, with other healthcare providers,

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practitioners, we had the ROCK Summit.

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The ROCK in that instance stands for Research, Opportunity,

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Collaboration and Knowledge.

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We had the new director of the Houston Health Department

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come out and give our keynote.

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What I loved most about that, it seems like, Mickey, that everybody is in

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alignment with the shift that we have been saying for a long time about community

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care and getting the community involved.

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There was a lot of talk about community assessment, addressing

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what the community needs are and also involving them in the process.

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I'm so excited not only about the event, the collaboration part afterwards.

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But a lot of good things have come from that event alone.

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And I'm excited to share what we'll be doing for the rest of the year.

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Wow, Jamie, I can tell just hearing you talk

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about it really lights you up.

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Being in your community and being around people and seeing those aha moments.

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So honestly, you are the person who really embodies that like advocacy

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isn't just one thing, right?

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Jamie-Nicole Martin: Absolutely.

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I think has been really incredible.

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So great work to you and really putting all of that together and

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bringing everybody together to really help people figure things

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out and live a healthier life.

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I love that.

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Jamie-Nicole Martin: I just wanted to say one thing about that Mickey, because

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I always have to tie it back together, especially for this particular podcast,

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it's again, important that we address the individual level and the systemic level

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by doing things, by going to the fly in.

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But we also can't wait, right?

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And then that was my thing.

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We can't wait for others to come and save us.

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That is part of it.

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But how I got involved in this in the first place is because at

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the individual level, you were doing this work before I was.

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And so I just, I just want to highlight that.

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And if it had not been for you, we wouldn't be doing this work.

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So putting the power back in our hands, sometimes with chronic illness, we feel

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as though, especially autoimmune disease.

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We feel as though we don't have any power.

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So empowering people at the individual level is what you have

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been doing for years before I was even thinking of going down this path.

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So I just wanted to tie it back to you and say thank you again for that.

Mickey Trescott:

Oh, Jamie, you're too sweet.

Mickey Trescott:

This is really the ripple effect, right?

Mickey Trescott:

Is talking about just our autoimmune disease with our friends.

Mickey Trescott:

That's how this started for me.

Mickey Trescott:

And now we're going to Capitol Hill, we're working in our communities and

Mickey Trescott:

everybody listening is a part of this.

Mickey Trescott:

So, I hope that everybody can get involved and be excited about this

Mickey Trescott:

'cause really we're all just trying to make it better for the next person.

Mickey Trescott:

But thanks for those kind words, Jamie.

Mickey Trescott:

Can you tell us, I know you're always up to something.

Mickey Trescott:

Whenever, you guys, Jamie and I email a little bit back and forth about just

Mickey Trescott:

what's going on and Jamie's emails about what she's doing as a single

Mickey Trescott:

person running this organization, she's got helpers, but I will tell

Mickey Trescott:

you, she's got a lot on her plate.

Mickey Trescott:

She's always up to something.

Mickey Trescott:

What are you up to, Jamie?

Mickey Trescott:

What's coming soon?

Mickey Trescott:

Jamie-Nicole Martin: One of the things we had, at Rock the Block

Mickey Trescott:

were breakout sessions and workshops.

Mickey Trescott:

One of those sessions was called Worthy Beyond the Flare, because oftentimes,

Mickey Trescott:

as I mentioned, the mental burden that comes with dealing with autoimmune

Mickey Trescott:

disease is sometimes heavy and so we have started partnering with a organization

Mickey Trescott:

here called Positive Express, with the certified counselor to do in-person

Mickey Trescott:

live workshops here quarterly.

Mickey Trescott:

Here in Houston, we have our first one coming.

Mickey Trescott:

On the 18th, if you go to our website on our events page,

Mickey Trescott:

the address is listed there.

Mickey Trescott:

Another collaboration that we have made is that we partnered with the

Mickey Trescott:

with MD Anderson Cancer Center.

Mickey Trescott:

We'll be, partnering with them to create and collaborate on

Mickey Trescott:

events, for the community.

Mickey Trescott:

Advocating for better health and wellness through programs like fitness,

Mickey Trescott:

wellness workshops, sleep health workshops, everything that we advocate

Mickey Trescott:

here for, and, for autoimmune disease.

Mickey Trescott:

Oh my gosh, Jamie, that's so great and thank you so

Mickey Trescott:

much for the work that you're doing, for bringing this side of autoimmune

Mickey Trescott:

wellness into the conversation.

Mickey Trescott:

I think it's something that can feel really far away to people, but you make

Mickey Trescott:

it feel really tangible and accessible, and I hope that for everybody listening

Mickey Trescott:

who's not in Houston they are feeling inspired to look into organizations

Mickey Trescott:

that are doing this type of work in their communities, or spoiler alert,

Mickey Trescott:

like you might be able to be a part of bringing this to your community.

Mickey Trescott:

Jamie, just thank you so much for being here.

Mickey Trescott:

It's been great.

Mickey Trescott:

Jamie-Nicole Martin: Thank you so much for having me.

Mickey Trescott:

And now I want to bring in somebody who always has

Mickey Trescott:

such a unique perspective on what's happening across the AIP community.

Mickey Trescott:

Jamie Hartman is the organizer of the AIP Summit, she's also the lead instructor for

Mickey Trescott:

the AIP Certified Coach Training Program.

Mickey Trescott:

She works closely with both practitioners and individuals navigating AIP.

Mickey Trescott:

So she really has a front row seat to what people are struggling with and

Mickey Trescott:

what's actually helping them move forward.

Mickey Trescott:

We're going to talk a little bit about the role of coaching, what Jamie is

Mickey Trescott:

seeing in the latest AIP Certified Coach cohort, and how you can find the right

Mickey Trescott:

kind of support if you're feeling stuck.

Mickey Trescott:

Alright, let's bring Jamie on.

Mickey Trescott:

Jamie, I am so excited to have you back for this quarter two update.

Mickey Trescott:

You always have such a unique perspective on what's happening

Mickey Trescott:

across the AIP community, both through your work in the AIP Summit and in

Mickey Trescott:

training these AIP Certified Coaches.

Mickey Trescott:

So let's start with the role of coaching itself.

Mickey Trescott:

From your perspective, running the AIP Summit and working directly with

Mickey Trescott:

clients, how can AIP Certified Coaches really help people experience success?

Mickey Trescott:

And what are some of the most common obstacles or situations where having

Mickey Trescott:

a coach really makes a difference?

Jaime Hartman:

Well, thanks for having me here, first of all, I'm excited to

Jaime Hartman:

share and always good to talk to you.

Jaime Hartman:

The thing I see the most when I'm meeting people who are doing AIP and

Jaime Hartman:

looking for support, whether it's in the summit or my own practice or the

Jaime Hartman:

by extension talking to AIP Certified Coaches, is that people benefit from an

Jaime Hartman:

AIP Certified Coach when they get stuck.

Jaime Hartman:

And they can get stuck in a lot of different places.

Jaime Hartman:

One of the places I see people getting stuck, I hear about people getting stuck

Jaime Hartman:

a lot, is in the reintroduction phase.

Jaime Hartman:

I'm always hearing about people who say, I can't reintroduce anything.

Jaime Hartman:

Like nothing is working for me.

Jaime Hartman:

Or they don't know how to go about doing it.

Jaime Hartman:

They're just sort of deciding maybe I just have to keep eating

Jaime Hartman:

the elimination way forever.

Jaime Hartman:

And I can say with all of the experience that I've had, working with countless

Jaime Hartman:

people and talking to countless people through the AIP Summit, working with my

Jaime Hartman:

own clients that I've never had anyone who was not able to reintroduce something

Jaime Hartman:

and usually many things, but they may need some support in figuring out how do

Jaime Hartman:

they identify what's actually going on.

Jaime Hartman:

They might need to reconsider how they're doing their reintroductions.

Jaime Hartman:

They may need something entirely unique to them.

Jaime Hartman:

You know, we're all really, really unique and this is where I think that people

Jaime Hartman:

can really, really benefit from having an AIP Certified Coach support them in that.

Jaime Hartman:

That getting stuck in the reintroduction phase in particular.

Jaime Hartman:

Another place I see people getting stuck is in a cycle of doing AIP over and over,

Jaime Hartman:

kind of doing AIP and then not doing it, and then doing it again and not doing it.

Jaime Hartman:

And we know that's really not the best way to live your life.

Jaime Hartman:

We really want people to be able to use AIP as a way to get to a long-term

Jaime Hartman:

sustainable, enjoyable, supportive way of eating for the long run.

Jaime Hartman:

And that's another place where people can get stuck in that cycle.

Jaime Hartman:

And an AIP Certified Coach can really help.

Jaime Hartman:

So yeah, I think those are the big areas where I'm seeing common threads

Jaime Hartman:

that are really individual that really require unique, personalized support,

Jaime Hartman:

but an AIP Certified Coach is prepared to help somebody with each of those

Jaime Hartman:

areas and has probably seen somebody with something similar or can apply

Jaime Hartman:

some common lessons that they've learned to those unique situations.

Mickey Trescott:

Yeah, that's such an important point, especially because

Mickey Trescott:

I don't think people realize how much support can change their experience.

Mickey Trescott:

So not just getting through that elimination, I think that's what

Mickey Trescott:

people think is the hard part.

Mickey Trescott:

But like you said, reintroductions I actually think are much more tricky

Mickey Trescott:

navigating just because that's where the nuance and the personalization and

Mickey Trescott:

where your road is going to diverge from everybody you've heard about

Mickey Trescott:

doing AIP or all of these resources, everybody's doing more or less the same

Mickey Trescott:

thing, but then in reintroductions it, it really gets personal really quickly.

Mickey Trescott:

A coach can really help people troubleshoot and move

Mickey Trescott:

forward with confidence.

Mickey Trescott:

And actually, speaking of the coaching community, we have a spring class you and

Mickey Trescott:

I are teaching right now in AIP Certified Coach, they're just about to wrap up.

Mickey Trescott:

Can you share a little bit about what you're noticing in this current group?

Jaime Hartman:

Yeah, and this current group and the one that preceded at one

Jaime Hartman:

really cool thing I noticed when I was kinda tallying up where everybody was

Jaime Hartman:

from and counting was that more than half of our current students and the

Jaime Hartman:

cohort right behind them are joining us from outside of North America.

Jaime Hartman:

We obviously still have a really strong contingent of coaches in the United States

Jaime Hartman:

and in Canada, but we're seeing people who are joining from all over the world.

Jaime Hartman:

So the global reach of the AIP movement is really expanding.

Jaime Hartman:

It's really exciting to see people coming from all different parts

Jaime Hartman:

of the world and they're coming to us with a variety of language

Jaime Hartman:

backgrounds, which is super fascinating.

Jaime Hartman:

We've seen the last couple cohorts, people who tell us, English is not

Jaime Hartman:

something I'm super confident in speaking, but I know how to use some tools.

Jaime Hartman:

I know how to use the technology to take the transcripts and translate them

Jaime Hartman:

and know how to reach out for support.

Jaime Hartman:

And they're making it work, which is just so exciting.

Jaime Hartman:

So seeing that marriage of people, like real people and then using the technology

Jaime Hartman:

tools is just so cool and so exciting.

Jaime Hartman:

Also, we're seeing a lot of variety in different types of practitioners

Jaime Hartman:

that are taking the program and becoming AIP Certified Coaches.

Jaime Hartman:

One thing your listeners should know is that to be an AIP Certified

Jaime Hartman:

Coach, you have to already have some kind of a base training, something

Jaime Hartman:

that you are qualified to do.

Jaime Hartman:

A lot of us are health coaches or nutritionists or some kind of a

Jaime Hartman:

nutrition professional, but we also have people become AIP Certified

Jaime Hartman:

Coaches who are like therapists or fitness professionals or even doctors.

Jaime Hartman:

It's really getting to be a diverse group of professionals who are learning this

Jaime Hartman:

common protocol, and as we were talking about in the first part of this, learning

Jaime Hartman:

how to help people make it their own.

Jaime Hartman:

Doing that through their own lens of whatever their specialty is, where they're

Jaime Hartman:

coming from, applying their practice to it is so exciting to see in that wide

Jaime Hartman:

range really like enlivens the learning environment too, to have people coming

Jaime Hartman:

in who have got training in all kinds of different things and are doing all kinds

Jaime Hartman:

of cool things in their practice already.

Mickey Trescott:

Yeah, I completely agree.

Mickey Trescott:

It really speaks to how this work that we're doing is really spreading

Mickey Trescott:

and evolving and how these different types of practitioners and language

Mickey Trescott:

backgrounds and people around the world are really recognizing the

Mickey Trescott:

value in the approach, which feels really special to be a part of that.

Mickey Trescott:

For anybody listening who's thinking, okay, I want this type of support, even

Mickey Trescott:

if maybe they're somewhere else in the world where they thought that all of

Mickey Trescott:

the AIP universe is actually in the US.

Mickey Trescott:

Now, it's actually very spread around the world.

Mickey Trescott:

Let's make this really practical.

Mickey Trescott:

Do you have any tips for how somebody can connect with an AIP Certified

Mickey Trescott:

Coach who fits their specific needs?

Jaime Hartman:

Yeah, I have two tips.

Jaime Hartman:

So one is that they can go to the website, aipcertified.com,

Jaime Hartman:

and there they can learn about what an AIP Certified Coach

Jaime Hartman:

is and the program and stuff.

Jaime Hartman:

But if they click on the directory, that'll take them

Jaime Hartman:

into an amazing resource there.

Jaime Hartman:

You can browse on the directory.

Jaime Hartman:

They can browse the directory by location or by base certification.

Jaime Hartman:

So maybe they're specifically looking for like, a personal trainer and

Jaime Hartman:

they want to see who's got that background and exercise that can help

Jaime Hartman:

me implement movement into my protocol or whatever the example might be.

Jaime Hartman:

And they can go by location remembering that most of us

Jaime Hartman:

or many of us work virtually.

Jaime Hartman:

So that may or may not be really relevant to you.

Jaime Hartman:

You might also look broadly around the world as well.

Jaime Hartman:

You can also search by keyword.

Jaime Hartman:

What that means is that you can type in a word or a phrase and it will bring

Jaime Hartman:

up the profiles of the coaches who used that keyword somewhere in their About

Jaime Hartman:

Me section or in their credentials and their other certifications.

Jaime Hartman:

Like so for example, you have a specific condition and you'd really like to

Jaime Hartman:

consider working with a coach who's had some additional training or expertise

Jaime Hartman:

with that condition, give it a try.

Jaime Hartman:

Type your condition in.

Jaime Hartman:

Maybe there'll be somebody in there who has that in their

Jaime Hartman:

profile that they talked about.

Jaime Hartman:

Or another example would be somebody who has interest in a specific

Jaime Hartman:

stage of life that they're at.

Jaime Hartman:

I know a lot of us are dealing with perimenopause or menopause,

Jaime Hartman:

so that might be a word you could search for, and perhaps other

Jaime Hartman:

coaches who have had additional training in menopause certifications

Jaime Hartman:

might be of interest to you.

Jaime Hartman:

It narrows it down.

Jaime Hartman:

You still have to probably do a little bit of work to read through the bios

Jaime Hartman:

and learn about each person, but it would help you then just get a

Jaime Hartman:

smaller list of folks to start with.

Jaime Hartman:

So that's one the directory.

Jaime Hartman:

And then the other place I would tell people to go is to AIPsummit.com.

Jaime Hartman:

That's the place where we house all of our resources.

Jaime Hartman:

Each year we come together and do an annual summit where AIP Certified

Jaime Hartman:

Coaches present a talk on a specific topic that they're interested in.

Jaime Hartman:

They're all recorded, they're all archived, and we do periodic

Jaime Hartman:

encores of those for free.

Jaime Hartman:

Or people can join the membership community for a small fee and they

Jaime Hartman:

can look at all the recordings from all of the years in the past.

Jaime Hartman:

They can also post questions in the community there.

Jaime Hartman:

So it's a great way to kinda.

Jaime Hartman:

In quotation marks meet, a bunch of AIP Certified Coaches, and you might meet

Jaime Hartman:

one there that really speaks to you and suits your needs and would be somebody

Jaime Hartman:

you want to investigate working with.

Mickey Trescott:

Jamie, thank you so much for sharing this perspective.

Mickey Trescott:

It's really encouraging to see how much the AIP community continues to grow,

Mickey Trescott:

how much support is actually available for people, and how personalized and

Mickey Trescott:

dialed in that support can be for every single stage of their journey.

Mickey Trescott:

Thanks everyone for listening to this second quarterly community update episode

Mickey Trescott:

of the Autoimmune Wellness Podcast.

Mickey Trescott:

My hope is that conversations like these help you feel more connected,

Mickey Trescott:

not just to information we know all that information is out there.

Mickey Trescott:

You probably have it at this point, but to the people, the research and the advocacy

Mickey Trescott:

efforts shaping autoimmune care right now.

Mickey Trescott:

Whether you choose to get involved directly or simply feel just a

Mickey Trescott:

little more oriented and supported, that connection really does matter.

Mickey Trescott:

As always, take what's useful, leave what's not, and move forward

Mickey Trescott:

in a way that feels right for you.

Mickey Trescott:

I'll be back next week with a Kitchen Confidence episode where we'll

Mickey Trescott:

get practical and grounded in the day to day of autoimmune Wellness.

Mickey Trescott:

Until then, take good care.

Mickey Trescott:

I'll see you next time.

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