There's no getting away from it: this is a difficult topic to talk about. Fraught with danger from either sides of the extremely complex discussion. We try to navigate what is going on, while being sensitive to the events in Israel and Palestine.

We quite possibly get things wrong and for that we are sorry. Although we usually watch five minutes of YouTube and are the experts, we're certainly not saying that in this episode.

The main focus of the conversation is around binary arguments, where this all started and why TV news anchors feel the need to be the central character.

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