[0:32] It's going well. I did take a shower. I did eat breakfast, which is,
Chris:
[0:37] I think, a majority of the battle, maybe 90% of the day.
Tyler:
[0:41] Is that something that you like? Do you win that battle often, the breakfast and shower and the morning battle?
Chris:
[0:48] I mean, typically. Typically, I'm very much a workaholic. Yeah. yeah i mean typically i have a whole thing there but i recently just graduated from college so now i'm kind of in a low period you know trying to get the job so thank you thank you i appreciate it i mean you're.
Tyler:
[1:12] Not so you're leagues ahead of me i've never eat breakfast and i did not graduate from college so you're like way ahead of me already i'm so proud of you
Chris:
[1:22] Well i i appreciate it that's you know that's at like one percent one percent better that's crazy.
Tyler:
[1:30] As a college graduate who's now looking for work i have to ask was it worth the four years of college um just
Chris:
[1:41] Well for me for me it was uh okay because i mean the the entertainment industry as a whole, I think, is very secretive. I was just talking with an advertising guy, and he was like, no, advertising is really easy. You do this, you know, there's a step-by-step process. You get through journalism or advertising, and then you go and you do $150,000 portfolio school, and then you get a job. And I think as an actor or a designer or someone in the entertainment industry you know as a as a high school student no one wants to tell you anything everyone just wants to uh keep keep things to themselves act like there's a job scarcity when there really isn't so um i i am very much a overachiever type person so i was able to quickly you know gain scholarships at my university and and learn a lot and do a lot of things and even though i don't have a job right now, I think that will change very soon.
Tyler:
[2:48] No, that's cool. Like, I hated school, so when I started thinking about going to more school, it was a pretty easy no for me. I remember the day, I guess it was my senior year of high school, where they're like, all right, everybody's going to go take the ACT and SAT today and all that shit. I just told my teacher, I am not going. And he's like, you have to. I'm like, I literally don't. Like I'm well within my rights to not get up and walk and get on a bus and go take this test. And I'll never, I don't hate this guy, but I have, I've like put him in my Rolodex of like people who said I would fail at life. And then like when I'm a millionaire, giving them a call just to let them know like you were wrong. But he was like, you're just going to be a flunky for the rest of your life, Mr. Crabtree. And he was wrong. I did. Okay. I didn't have to take this.
Tyler:
[3:48] It turns out you can in fact after you get out of like high school like and work for a while if you want to go back to college they don't care about that unless you're trying to get into like some specific program or whatever um but i was i needed to be in the military i needed like discipline not free like if you'd given me the freedom of just go to school but no one's gonna make you be here i would have just fucked the whole thing up and wasted a bunch of my parents money and uh right right well
Chris:
[4:18] In high school it's it's crazy you know they they um in high school i mean where i'm the biggest high school in south carolina at the time 4 000 students, um and they were all about oh you have to take these ap courses you should be taking you know dual enroll you know all these things and then i actually you know they don't, you need a 5.0 GPA if you want to, you know, even look approachable. Um, and then I got, you know, I went to a backup school and it just quickly, like I was talking with valedictorians from schools with 30 kids, you know, and all of a sudden, like the, I mean, within the first week of being in college, I'm sure it was similar, um, in the military, you know, you kind of just grow up and your whole view of the world, I mean, just kind of gets so much bigger and you realize like, oh shit. I mean, that's, I mean, that's what I felt.
Tyler:
[5:20] I, yeah, I just... I looked around at like what my options were at the time. And don't get me wrong. I was like a reasonably intelligent kid. I had a lot of pressure on me to go to college, like from elementary school.
Tyler:
[5:35] I was in like the Duke tip program and all kinds of shit when I was like eight or nine, I don't know. And all kinds of stuff. And I always had like people in my ear saying like, you're going to be a doctor or a lawyer or a scientist or an engineer or a blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Tyler:
[5:49] And I was more of an artist type person. And, yeah, i i took an honest look at career paths you know at i don't know 17 or 18 or whatever and all of my favorite like people i looked up to had gone into the military and then gone on to be a famous artist i'm talking like maynard from tool johnny cash like elvet like just right they also all did lots of drugs and fucked their lives up which you know hey um but i'm just like it just seemed like like this is a good thing to do if you are going to go on to do something else that isn't conventional at least you have that stability and yeah and then I didn't even join the military until I was like 20 years old I just worked like regular jobs for two years which I recommend to all people when they're young like get like just get some like actual work experience so you'll appreciate having a white collar job or at least a desk faring job if you go do like manual labor or some shit for a while first and yeah and you'll appreciate like
Tyler:
[6:57] The difference between a minimum wage gig and like even at, at the time, you know, minimum wage, like seven 25. So it's crazy now. Like when I think like people are like refusing to work at McDonald's for $15 or whatever, which I mean, I'm all for get paid wherever the fuck you can, but I'm just saying like literally more than twice as much as it was when I was like 16.
Chris:
[7:19] So when I started at, at the scene shop, um, at my college, uh, it was seven 25. But it's still like they had not updated their minimum wage, I guess. I guess when you pay students, now it's much different. They start students at $9. But we started at $7.25. And I mean, that's, I mean, we did, you know, we were carpenters, you know, moving lumber all day, working on sets for shows and, you know, all the good carpentry and hard labor stuff to make a production happen. And we were like, dang, man, I'm not working that much and I'm only getting $7.25, but I love it. I love it. It's so good.
Tyler:
[8:06] So, I mean, like, what was your kind of upbringing? Like, what puts you on the path of like, I'm going to go study acting or all this other stagecraft and everything that you've done so far?
Chris:
he iraq war um in the kind of:
Tyler:
[9:35] That sounded like some like. I went under the apprenticeship of a draftsman. Sounds like you're from a different century. So for the layman. Well, I think, I think apprenticeships are really cool. I want the world to revert to the guild system. Like I'm having this, like I'm having these conversations early about my kid and with my wife, like how I think the world ought to be or whatever. But like, so what, first of all, what was, what is a draftsman? And what was the process of the apprenticeship? like to become a draftsman
