What if the goal of your marketing isn't to get everyone to like you?
In this episode, Anna explores what it means to create a magnetic website and marketing strategy—one that doesn't just attract the right-fit clients, but also helps the wrong-fit clients recognize that they're not in the right place. Because effective marketing should act like a magnet: attracting some people while repelling others.
Anna walks through her five-step Magnetic Niche Method and explains how therapists can move from knowing they "should have a niche" to creating marketing that actually filters for the clients they want to work with. If your website is attracting inquiries but they aren't the right fit, this episode will help you get clearer about who you're for, who you're not for, and how to communicate both.
1️⃣ Why effective marketing needs to both attract the right-fit clients and "bless and release" the people who aren't a good fit.
2️⃣ How a magnetic niche can help you stop sounding generic and create a clearer filter in your marketing.
3️⃣ The five steps of Anna's Magnetic Niche Method: embracing the magnetic mindset, identifying your red thread, defining your focus areas, profiling your ideal client, and writing your niche statement.
4️⃣ Why knowing who you're intentionally not marketing to is just as important as knowing who you want to attract.
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Marketing Therapy is the podcast where therapists learn how to market their private practices without burnout, self-doubt, or sleazy tactics. Hosted by Anna Walker, a marketing coach, strategist, and founder of Walker Strategy Co—each episode brings you clear, grounded advice to help you attract the right-fit, full-fee clients and grow a practice you feel proud of.
Hey, hey, welcome back to Marketing
Therapy, episode nine zero, 90.
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:We're 10 episodes away from 100
episodes of Marketing Therapy.
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:I've said this before, but if you had
told me a year and a half ago that I
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:would be podcasting weekly, I would
have laughed you right out of the room.
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:This, for some reason, was always
something that I saw for other
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:people, but never for myself.
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:I didn't used to be a big podcast
listener, although I have become one over
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:the last three or four years probably.
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:But it just felt so much bigger than
something I felt I would be capable
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:of doing, and have found in these
last 90 episodes how life-giving it
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:can be, how enjoyable it is to have
conversation with you one-sided but also
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:to hear from you that what we're doing
here matters and resonates with you.
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:Someone shared in an email, I, I think
it was a week or two ago, to our team.
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:She said, "Thank you for the podcast.
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:Thank you for, what you teach.
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:Thank you for not yelling at me."
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:And I was like, "Oh,
sis, you're so welcome."
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:So if, if you're here looking for
that, you know, encouragement, but also
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:some legit strategy on what's gonna
work in the therapy space right now,
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:then I'm really happy you're here.
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:So that was a, a off-the-cuff reflection,
but 90 feels big 'cause it's close to 100.
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:We'll see what I say in 10 more episodes.
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:But we're talking today about
the fact that I want people
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:to not like your marketing.
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:I want people to not like your website.
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:I want people to not like you.
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:Now, not truly not like you,
but we're gonna talk today about
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:the idea of being magnetic.
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:And when you are magnetic,
you do two things.
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:You attract, absolutely, and we talk
a lot about attraction in marketing,
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:attracting right fit clients,
attracting people to your practice,
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:but what else does a magnet do?
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:It repels.
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:Your marketing, to be effective,
must both attract and repel.
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:And I wonder if there are areas that you
have avoided the latter or just simply
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:not known to think about it, and why that
might actually be diluting what it is that
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:you're doing out there in the world, okay?
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:If someone lands on your website and
read it and go, "Oh, man, this is not
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:what I'm looking for," that tells me your
copy's probably doing a really good job.
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:That tells me your marketing is
probably doing a really good job.
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:I've shared about my pink pants
story before, how I bought these pink
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:barrel leg pants, which if you know
barrel leg is super in right now.
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:I bought these pink barrel leg
pants before I got pregnant with
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:my third son last year and felt a
little bit embarrassed wearing them.
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:They, they were kind of
a statement, still are.
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:But my friend, I showed up to her
house, and she opened the door, and
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:she said, "Oh, those are so you."
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:And it gave me enough
confidence to rock the pants.
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:But the point of the pink pants
story, among other things, is that not
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:everyone is gonna like your pink pants.
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:That's the whole freaking point.
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:Not everyone's gonna like
the way that you do therapy.
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:Not everyone's going to
be a good fit for you.
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:That's the whole freaking point.
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:In this market, you know this because
you know that niching is important.
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:You know this because you know
that there are certain clients
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:you want to be attracting more
of and certain that you don't.
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:But a lot of times, that doesn't
make its way into what you
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:actually do to grow your practice.
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:And to do that, you need to be really,
really aware and okay with the fact
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:that you're going to be calling in some
people and pushing away, repelling,
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:or as we say, blessing and releasing
those who are not the best fit for you
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:Often I see clinicians who are under
pressure to sound professional, right?
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:To sound effective end up sounding
just really safe and generic, you know?
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:I mean, how many times have
you seen a safe, supportive
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:space for healing and growth?
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:Such a nice statement.
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:Such a nice statement.
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:Says absolutely nothing, right?
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:Does nothing to attract
or most importantly bless
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:and release there, right?
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:So often what happens here is
you know you need to be specific.
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:You know how important it is to niche, but
then you don't have the mechanism for it,
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:and so you don't know what to do with it
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:So that's what this episode is about,
the actual method for turning, "I know
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:I shouldn't be for everyone," into
marketing that actually isn't, okay?
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:And I'm gonna walk you through the five
steps of creating, first and foremost,
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:a magnetic niche, which leads to
having magnetic marketing all around.
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:Okay?
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:So I wanna make the argument here that
a website, in particular, as the home of
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:your marketing, but all of your marketing
in general, has two jobs, not just one.
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:Everyone knows the first one.
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:That's to attract more inquiries, right?
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:And I absolutely wanna see that happen.
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:But the one that's harder to execute,
even when you believe in it, is this
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:idea of blessing and releasing, is
that idea of the magnet that repels.
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:So knowing you should niche and then
knowing how to market yourself in a way
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:that filters out those wrong fit clients
are fundamentally two different skills.
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:They're related, but it's one
thing to know you need one, it's
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:another to actually do it, right?
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:I want you to picture two homepages, okay?
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:So two homepages of therapists.
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:One says, "I help women navigate
life's challenges and find peace."
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:Okay, so if I'm a woman,
maybe I'm in the right place.
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:The other one says, "I work with
professional badass women in their 30s
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:and 40s whose lives look great on paper
but f- don't feel great to actually live."
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:Hmm.
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:All right, I am not a badass woman,
in this example, in my 30s and 40s.
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:I'm not in the right place.
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:Even the way that that is positioned is
not right for a certain type of person.
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:We've done that filtering
with that second one.
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:Someone passed through that filter
and either qualified themselves
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:to be a good fit or self-selected
out because of how it was written.
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:Now, you can tell as I read
those two statements, you know
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:which one is gonna resonate more.
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:You know that.
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:You probably just don't know
how to write it for yourself.
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:That's what I hear from
a lot of you, right?
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:'Cause no one really sits down and decides
to write, "I help women navigate life's
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:challenges and find peace" on purpose.
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:They just don't know what else to do
in order to become magnetic, right?
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:It's what comes out when you're
reaching for something really, really
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:specific, but you don't have the
language sharp enough to actually do it.
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:You don't actually know how to create
that filter in your marketing Now the
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:second one, Badass Women 30s and 40s:
Life's Looking Great on Paper That's gonna
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:cause someone to stop scrolling, right?
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:And it's gonna cause some people to
move on 'cause holy cow, that's not me.
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:That isn't relevant to me.
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:But then there's others that are
gonna be like, "Holy cow, yes please.
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:More of that."
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:I've said it a million times and I'll
say it again, if your website, your
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:marketing, your copy is connecting with
everyone, it's not connecting with anyone.
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:And you don't want it to.
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:You know that.
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:You have clients that you want
and clients that you don't.
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:The goal five years ago in the pandemic
times was kind of like maximum connection.
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:Like get them, you know, get in front of
them, get them in, get them scheduled.
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:These days, the market has changed,
our clients have changed, their
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:choices have changed, the way that
they're making decisions has changed.
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:The goal is no longer maximum connection.
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:Now it is the right connection with the
right client, and that means knowing who
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:you're deliberately not writing to is
just as important as knowing who you are.
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:Let me say that again.
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:Knowing who you're deliberately not
writing to, not marketing to, is just
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:as important as knowing who you are.
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:So you spend a lot of time
thinking about your ideal client
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:and who you wanna be attracting.
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:Have you spent time thinking
about who isn't the right fit?
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:And is your marketing doing a good
job of telling that person that
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:they're not in the right spot?
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:Kindly, compassionately, right?
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:All the good things.
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:But quite frankly, they're not in the
right spot if they've landed on your site.
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:So this isn't just about attraction,
it's attraction and repelling
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:on purpose for the right people.
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:Okay?
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:So let me walk you through our
Magnetic Niche Method, which
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:informs magnetic marketing.
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:If you wanna go through this
process in a really deep way, we
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:have our Magnetic Niche Method mini
course walkerstrategyco.com/mnm,
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:the letters M-N-M, Magnetic Niche
Method, to take you through workbooks
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:and trainings with me where I
really walk you through this.
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:But I wanna tell you and show you what
it takes to get magnetic and to get
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:really clear about both the attraction
and the blessing and releasing.
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:Okay?
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:Remember, this is about getting clear
on who you're writing to as well as who
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:you're intentionally not writing to.
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:That is what is going to turn your
website and your marketing from, "I
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:know I shouldn't be for everyone" to
right fit people actually calling you.
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:Okay?
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:And this is really born out of the
discussions and the observations I've,
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:I've made in recent months with therapists
who are telling me, "I'm getting
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:clients, but they're not the right fit."
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:And I say, "Okay, then what
about them isn't the right fit?"
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:And then we go looking at how that person
might s- be thinking that they are and
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:what could we be changing here, okay?
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:All of those things flow out of,
first and foremost, the Magnetic Niche
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:Method, and we have five steps here.
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:So first up is embracing
the magnetic mindset.
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:You gotta get really comfortable
with this idea, right?
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:You can say all day long, "Oh, I know I
should have a niche," or, "Oh, I know I'm
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:not the right therapist for everyone."
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:But if you don't actually believe
that, we're in trouble, okay?
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:So we have to start there.
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:You wanna jump straight to the
strategy and the niche, I get it.
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:But we've gotta address the fear that
if you narrow your focus, you're gonna
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:starve, right, and not be able to put
food on the table, whatever that is.
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:You're gonna worry that fewer people
are gonna find you, that your calendar's
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:We gotta address that fear head-on.
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:We've also gotta get really clear on what
you bring to the table and why you're
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:If you're not niching and marketing from
a position of deep clarity and confidence
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are exceptional when you're with the right
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:client, we're gonna have a hard time here.
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:So first we embrace the magnetic mindset.
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:We get really comfortable with who you're
for, what you bring into the room, why
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:you're really excellent at the work
that you do, and also spend a little
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:bit of time reflecting on who isn't
the right fit so that you have clarity
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:around who that person is and is not.
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:Okay?
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:We know that you cannot create magnetic
marketing from a mindset where you're
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:still trying to appeal to everyone or you
can't have one foot in both camps, right?
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:The all things to all people, but maybe
I should have a niche, but maybe…
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:We got to address that.
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:So first and foremost, we
embrace that magnetic mindset.
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:Then we look at what we call
the red thread, and I would
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:love to do an entire episode on
this, so I'll add it to my list.
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:But we've got to understand
and identify the red thread.
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:In your practice.
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:This is the connective tissue, for
lack of a better term, that runs
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:across all the different types of
clients that you love to work with.
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:Sometimes I will run across a therapist
who has just one very specific type
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:of client that they want to work with,
and they want a caseload full of them.
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:Amazing.
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:Super easy client to niche.
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:Life is good.
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:Most of you who I talk to enjoy a
couple different types of clients.
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:Maybe you really enjoy
couples and individuals.
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:Maybe you really enjoy people coming
in with ADHD concerns, but also people
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:Yes, those might be somewhat related, but
when you look at your marketing, you're
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so you feel this tension of, "Do I have to
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:So the red thread is about finding
a common denominator, a connective
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:tissue, a red thread that ties
together the commonalities amongst
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:And again, in order to know
our ideal client, we have to
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:know who we're not for, right?
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:Every single therapist has a red
thread, every single one of them.
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:They just don't know that approach.
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:But when they find it, that's what
liberates them to enjoy variety while
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:keeping a really focused message, while
not being all things to all people.
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:If a client meets the red thread
criteria, then at their most
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:They know that when the
red thread is put forth.
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:So we gotta figure out
what that red thread is.
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:If you don't name this and identify it,
then niching feels a lot like guessing,
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between your different types of clients,
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:You don't have to do that, not if we
have a red thread really, really clear.
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:Next up, we identify your focus areas.
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:So your focus areas are those
more distinct camps that your
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:So if you enjoy the ADHD and the
trauma, for instance, or you enjoy
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:couples and people-pleasing, whatever
that might be, we gotta figure out
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:what those focus areas are, right?
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:So this is moving from that more
general red thread that ties together
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:all of your different types of clients
into your specific focus areas.
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:Now, you probably enjoy a very
particular flavor of anxiety.
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:There are anxiety clients that
are not the right fit for you.
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:Who are those?
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:Who are the right fit?
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:So looking at the focus areas at that
more granular level are what are going to
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without being all things to all people,
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:without presenting as a generalist Right?
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:So not every anxious
client, but the anxious mom.
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:Not every trauma client, but
big T trauma clients, whatever
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:This is where your niche starts
to get a little bit sharper.
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:This is where we're speaking
specifically to people that
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:Then we get to profiling
your ideal client.
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:We know your red thread.
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:We've looked at the focus areas that
those clients fall into, and now we get
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:really clear on who your ideal client is.
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:So this is getting to know on a very,
very deep level who your client is, both
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:In order for your marketing to truly,
truly resonate with folks, it's not
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:It's what's going on outside of
the room that has led them here.
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:So we have to get a deep
understanding of what that is.
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they are demographically.
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:We're gonna look at what their
lifestyle and relationships are like.
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:We're gonna talk about what's
bringing them to therapy and what
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their goals are for therapy.
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:What are they telling you they actually
want to get out of this experience?
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:Is it direction?
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:Is it understanding why I keep
falling back into this pattern?
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finally, we look at what they
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AKA what you bring into the room.
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:So this is about what they appreciate
about your style, what they know
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that's going to inform everything
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us create the filter.
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this person and repelling someone
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magnetic niche method is going ahead
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language, creating what we call a
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:North Star for your marketing, against
which you can bump up anything.
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:So the Instagram carousel that you
create, the networking referral contact
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:you're considering reaching out to,
you know, the, the journal article
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:Whatever that is, you can bump it up
against the niche statement, is this
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:So your niche statement is your
statement about attraction.
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:Your niche statement is someone being
able to read it and say, "There's
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that if someone who was not the
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like, "Nope, that's not for me."
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statement is effective, and then it
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marketing, what you write on your
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Confident Copy Live cohort, so this is
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one of our students, she's incredible,
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been talking about how she doesn't
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varied so far in her career, and as she
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going cash pay, she isn't positive what
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really fun workshopping that with her.
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her is, "Okay, knowing what you know,
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in the, the Facebook group doing this
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red thread, her niche, was really grounded
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fit for her are coming wanting worksheets,
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wanting very, like, CBT structured type
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start leaning into in, in her marketing.
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where her right fit client could read that
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who is looking for that experience could
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Copy live student last year is a group
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:practice owner, and she and her team
work specifically with professionals
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they've experienced trauma.
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:Sometimes it's because they are being
asked to do things that are unethical.
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find themselves at a, at a tough
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remember exactly what the headline
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clear to the right person that they
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to their experience around work.
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and she said, "I shared my updated
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some feedback that maybe I was
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what do I do with that?"
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person who gave you that feedback
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that experience for some people.
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should be creating that experience.
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not right for everyone.
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you are so okay with being the right
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others, that if people were to give you
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that feedback does for you and brings
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okay with not being okay for everyone?
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much potential in your marketing, so
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not waste time having conversations with
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:people who aren't the right fit for you.
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:I don't want you to keep getting
on consults and wondering if that
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if you do couples work and you don't.
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:If it's gonna be all about fees and
insurance, or if you're just gonna
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you are as a therapist and what your
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your website and your marketing didn't
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:When done right, your marketing,
particularly your website, can do a lot
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:of this heavy lifting for you so that
the people who get to the bottom of the
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:filter, if you imagine a coffee filter,
the coffee, the rich, delicious coffee
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:that comes out at the bottom, the consults
that you have are those right fit clients.
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out, blessed and released to go
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the absolute best fit because there
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I can guarantee you will see
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you're getting from your clients.
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mindset, then identifying your red thread,
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that ideal client, and then writing
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such a way that the right fit would say
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you get that niche piece right, well,
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:But we gotta know that first.
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:If you wanna go through that process
at a deep level, like I mentioned,
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:Magnetic Niche Method, it's a full
mini course with videos and workbook
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:But if you're wondering what this
means for your marketing, if you have a
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:niche, if you have a website, and you're
wondering, are you doing this well?
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:Are you reaching people
who are more skeptical?
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have more choices available to them?
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:Jump into our Clear Website,
Full Caseload workshop.
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:That is our free training where I
walk through the four mistakes that
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:I'm seeing therapists make that are
preventing them from getting those premium
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:fee clients in this really saturated
and skeptical market that we're in.
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:I go a lot more in-depth in those
mistakes, what's happening, how to know
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:if you're making them, and then what
you need to do to change them, and I
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enlightening when you consider, okay,
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not right for others, how do I make sure
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:my website is, is communicating that?
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:How do I know that it's doing it well?
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:How do I know that the right fit clients
are gonna read it and resonate with it?
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:You can jump into that,
walkerstrategyco.com/cwfc.
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:We'll put that in the show notes as well.
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:100% free.
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:Like I said, a lot more of an in-depth
look at what's happening in websites in
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:But remember, it starts with getting
really, really comfortable with being
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:I'm excited to hear what
comes up for you on this one.
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:I'll see you in our next episode.