Heidi and Julie talk about some herbs they love and herbal remedies they use for self-care. Julie has a big announcement and she celebrated with Creme Brulee. Next, they talk about adulting and finances. Heidi asks Julie's opinion about whether or not she is over-reacting about preparing her son for travel. There is a war on deer happening in Heidi's backyard. Julie reviews American Song Contest which leads to a talk about Dolly Parton and barn cats. And, trigger alert, Heidi shares the story of the loss of her darling, sweet, 12-year-old pup. And, if you have a dog who needs a home....let her know.

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