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Shaking Our Heads to the Beat: A Night at the Roxbury Deep Dive
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Welcome to a special summer break episode of the Ten to One Podcast, where your favorite SNL recap trio – Brad Oman from Slashfilm.com, Nate Loucks, and Ben Konowitz – take a slight detour from their usual sketch comedy analysis to bring you a deep dive into the cinematic world born out of Saturday Night Live's iconic skits. This week, we don our finest rayon suits and revisit the 1998 cult classic A Night at the Roxbury, starring Chris Kattan, Will Ferrell, and Molly Shannon.

Dive into the pulsating heart of '90s comedy as Brad, Nate, and Ben break down the film's connection to SNL, explore its cultural impact, and debate where it stands amidst other SNL feature adaptations. They'll discuss the infamous head-bobbing duo of Doug and Steve Butabi, review their outrageous attempts to enter the hottest club in town and dissect the unforgettable cameos and soundtrack that have made this movie a beloved piece of nostalgia for fans.

The hosts will also discuss the film's reception at the time of release, its mixed critical reviews, and how perceptions of the movie have evolved over the years. They'll also delve into the chemistry between Kattan and Ferrell, examining the drama behind the scenes that left a permanent mark on their friendship.

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Oh. Emilio. You're a you're a Butabi. Pew. Pew. Okay. Alright. Pew. That's about as as as funny as the movie is.

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window again. That's a funny bit.

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There's several funny bits.

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There's a couple.

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That's it's not very very few

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there's a I can count on one hand

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no that's just as high as you can count period so

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this is another special episode of the ten to one podcast while we are on let's

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talk to Brad about his drug use

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on hiatus between seasons

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this is what we call an intervention

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we're continuing to go through the Saturday Night Live movie library and the next movie on that list takes us forward to the year nineteen ninety eight and this is a movie called

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It would be takes us back to the year nineteen ninety. We're in twenty twenty four. But we

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jumped forward from Stuart Smalley.

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Well, Well, you should've said that.

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Well, people understand if they're long time listeners and they listen better than you do.

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There's only two of them.

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So that brings us to A Night at the Roxbury.

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Are are you making this podcast into something very, like, official? And this takes us back

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Now, to come with me if you will

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here's a UFO known as A Knight Upon the Roxbury.

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Nate where were you in the year nineteen ninety eight? Feral Will and Catan Chris.

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What do we say about they?

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Little James Lipton in there.

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I tried my best.

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That's pretty good.

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Yeah. So we're we're talking about A Night of the Roxbury, which is this is the the first of a new batch of Saturday Night Live movies based on popular sketches at the time. We had a little bit of a run-in the early nineties after Wayne's World was a big hit, and we got Coneheads and Wayne's World two and Stewart Stays His Family and its Pat and all these things, but they they very much tapered off, and none of them were anywhere near as big of a hit as Wayne's World was. Many of them were even box office bombs, And as we'll soon see, that didn't change much, as we went into the late nineties and early two thousands with these new SNL movies.

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Yeah. It's it's the it's tough, man. Taking a turn from Stuart Saves' family, which we talked about at length last time, which could have been an independent film, could have been it was a way better movie in a lot of ways than we thought it was gonna be, but now we're just kinda back to this is the dreck of, like, what you think of when you think of an SNL movie normally, in my opinion. It's, like, yeah. It's a throwaway. These characters should never have been made into a feature film. It's just it's a lot of just extending a a premise that doesn't need to be extended.

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I mean, they should just think it's packed, Because if not, this would be the worstest style film of all time.

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Well, I'm not sure I would I mean, at least up until this point. Because let's not forget, we're we're coming up on Blues Brothers two thousand.

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I've never seen that, by the way. I haven't either.

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It'll it'll be hard to be worse than this.

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Is it good man? Just is it just John? Good man? Okay.

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So let's come with me a little further back in nineteen ninety eight. That's not this one.

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Oh, sorry.

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No. So, the original, Roxbury sketch, which is the which is known as the Roxbury guys because the night at the Roxbury obviously wasn't a thing yet, debuted on March twenty third nineteen ninety six. Do you do you wanna take a guess? Nate, if you know, don't guess.

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I won't.

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Because you might have researched. Who

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Put my friends like Ben did not research. We know this. Who hosted this episode? Nineteen ninety six. I'm gonna go with nineteen ninety six. Somebody got very popular. It was Charles Barkley.

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No. I'll give you a hint. It's a former cast member.

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Nineteen ninety six, that's going to be I'll

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give you another hint. One of my favorite former cast members.

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Ellen Cleghorn.

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Close. Close. Very similar in every aspect. It is a man by the name of Phil Hartman.

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The late great.

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The The late great Phil Hartman was hosting on March twenty third nineteen ninety six. This is where the Roxbury guys debuted. Phil Hartman was not in the sketch though, and in fact, this is the only version of the Roxbury guys where the host did not appear in the Roxbury guys sketch throughout their entire run on Saturday Night Live.

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And these days, if you watch Saturday Night Live, it is extremely rare for the host to not be in the sketch. Correct. They are in everything these

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days.

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Back in the nineties, not so much.

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And also, unique of of the debut of this sketch, is first of all, it was only two minutes long. It was very brief.

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Which, I'm pro shorter sketches.

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Yeah. And this was the very basic setup of what the Roxbury guys were until it expanded into different sort of avenues, where it's Chris Kattan and Will Ferrell as the Butabe brothers. They're in the China Club and they're dancing. They're not dancing to What is Love. Some flares of what the characters would become, but ultimately, you don't see really who the characters are until the movie. And the movie changes how the characters appear in a couple of the later iterations of the Roxbury sketches because if you listen to Will Ferrell in the early versions of the Roxbury sketches, he he talks like this. And it's like it's like, hey, I'm I'm just a weird guy. And like like he probably works like on Wall Street or something. And they're very much doing the the the coke nose thing, even though you never see them do coke in the sketch. And they're so they're just douche bags. And their eyebrows look really bad in early versions of the sketch. Like, they're just, like, pasted on pitch black eyebrows. They look terrible. So so yeah. Nineteen ninety six is when the Roxbury guys began.

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They said we need to make a movie, a full length feature movie about this.

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There was another another thing about the first, sketch of the Roxbury, guys that I noticed that I I thought was interesting. There was, there was two other characters in this. Right? They were not featured. They were just in the sketch in the background. Mhmm. One of them was the great Cheri Oteri. The other one was a person that was only on SNL for one season.

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Who was it? Oh, it's, oh, no. I'm thinking of a different, sketch. So the first one, I don't remember. David Koechner. Oh, interesting.

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I forgot he was on I

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I must have I must have missed him. Himself.

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Yeah. I I forgot he was on Or was he? He He was the bartender.

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Oh, okay. I wasn't paying attention.

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That's what I'm saying. You you would easily miss him. But, like, I I saw him in the background, and I thought, I forgot David Koechner was on SNL. That's interesting. But yeah. For sure. And they don't play, in that first episode or in that first iteration. They don't play the, what is love?

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What is the song they do? I I

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I I said that.

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I know. I'm just I just I didn't hear you say that,

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but What was the song? Do you know?

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So the the first song from the sketch was actually More and More by Captain Hollywood Prodas. Oh. The classic.

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Yeah. More and more and more. And bam bam bam bam bam bam

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bam bam. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Still very much a house techno, you know, pop song, but nowhere near as iconic as What is Love?

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Baby don't hurt me. Don't hurt me. No No

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No No more. No more.

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No more.

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So the second iteration of this is basically what probably people immediately think of when they think of the Roxbury guys.

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The Jim Carrey one? Correct.

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The the I couldn't believe that the second iteration of the Roxbury guys was the one with Jim Carrey because I would have thought that Jim Carrey arrived at a time when the Roxbury guys were already well established. But no.

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I'm gonna guess this is why this sketch became a thing. Right?

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I would imagine it helped for sure.

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Because he he was an uncredited writer of the film.

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Yes. Jim Carrey?

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Well, so that's that's that's what it says on the IMDB. I don't necessarily believe it because there's nothing else out there that indicates as much. So I don't know if someone made up that fact or if they Or

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they took enough mannerisms from what his ideas were

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Right.

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On it to be like, yeah, we should give him an uncredited The The

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The The only thing that makes me think that it could be true, or it could or or could easily inform the lie is that there is a reference to Jim Carrey in the movie where Jess Palminteri is like, hey, Jim Carrey. Come here, you pet detective bastard.

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And, again, it just says that he contributed to the script. So it doesn't it doesn't say he was in the writing room or anything.

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I don't know.

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But that doesn't it wouldn't shock me if, again, they were friends at the time Maybe. And they met with him and said, this is what we're doing. Do you have any ideas?

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Stranger things have happened. But yeah. So this this is the most, I think, known well known version of this version of the

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Tom Hanks one I think I do remember pretty much. much.

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much. much. Tom Hanks pretty big and Tom Hanks is the next one. But the Jim Carrey one, it's Jim Carrey doing the exact same thing with the guys, going to multiple locations. And he's got the neck

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for it. Better.

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Yeah. He's got he's got a neck for it.

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You know?

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Right? He he can

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he can do the the whole bop.

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He's a he's a he's a stretch Armstrong come to life.

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Yep.

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So he's mister rubber face, so he can do those Yep. Exaggerated mannerisms perfectly.

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And

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and that's kind of what his physical comedy was what was really selling him at that time

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in the early nineties.

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Come on. He's playing a burnout cokehead guy in a club, which allows Jim Carrey to go off the rails, which is what he's best at.

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Brad, you would you have maybe know this, but was Jim Carrey a ground lane at all? Would he was he into sketch comedy at all? Because I know that they wrote this sketch when they were at the ground lanes, Will Ferrell and Chris Kattan. So So

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So So I know Jim Carrey did stand up. Came from

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stand up and then got In Living Color.

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Yeah. Okay. I didn't know if he was ever a sketch comedian.

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I don't believe he ever did set

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up a real role. Yeah. Ever at any of the staple places where people did like, he might have done sketch comedy here and there, but he was mostly known for doing stand up and, like, doing characters in stand up. up.

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up. up. Same characters in stand up. Yeah. Okay.

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But but yeah. And so this this version is actually where the Roxbury guys' sketch really takes shape because this is where they establish them going to multiple locations in a single night around New York City. They establish them being in a car in between those locations, and that is the entire shape of the sketch as it would continue forward.

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And How many of these overall?

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Overall Did they after nineteen ninety six, we got one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight

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One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine,

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nine, nine times.

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Nine till that is that is roughly half of what they did with Stuart Smalley, which is shocking, honestly.

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But yeah. Nine and three seasons, essentially? Four?

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Yeah. Between nineteen ninety six and then nineteen ninety eight was the last one. And they only did one in nineteen ninety eight. And I we'll talk about actually why that probably is, once we get a little bit later into the movie. But, like Ben said, Tom Hanks did one, which was another another very famous one. Martin Short did one. He was the fourth one Wow. Where he plays someone who comes in from another country, some vague Middle Eastern country. And, like, they give him a makeover, and he starts hanging out with them.

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Can we can we time out about the Martin Short real quick? Because can we talk for our listeners, who have not seen it yet, go search out Martin Short doing Jimmy Nick Glick on Jimmy Kimmel right now.

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Yes. That's a it's a good point because even though Jiminy Glick is not a Saturday Night Live character, it is You're a fan of comedy.

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You're a fan of comedy. Yeah. So, like

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The first interview he did on Kimmel for Martin Short's guest hosting stint was with Bill Hader if you need a Saturday Night Live connection, and it is hilarious.

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I I skipped the Nick Kroll one. I didn't really like that one.

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I haven't watched the Kroll

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one yet. But the

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other one Nick, he's not doing a

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Nick was trying to yes and him a little bit.

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That's too much. Work. Yeah.

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Yeah. You don't you don't yes and Jimmy Glick. You let him do his things. You know? Push back on Jimmy Glick. That's what he's supposed to do.

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Or you just you just laugh at him like Bill Hader did. Yeah.

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Who Bill Hader could not stop laughing, and it was a door.

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He was in his happy place. It's just like watching his comic hero do what he does. Best.

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Yes.

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But it is just

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Jiminy Glick is one of the better characters of all time as far as just just soup to nuts. It's the fat suit. It's the food that he eats. It's the treatment of the it's between two ferns before between two ferns.

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And it's sketch comedy gold. Right? I know it's on on Jimmy Kimmel, but this is sketch comedy. Right? Yeah.

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Hundred percent.

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It is so good and just it's just

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perfect character work.

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Fun to see a varsity level performer come in, and he just knocked out of the park. Crush. Again, the connection, obviously, is he did this sketch when Martin Short hosted, but also I just wanna as many people to see this as possible because it's and you wrote about it, I know, on Slashfilm, but

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it's really good. Yeah. And so that that was what we'll call the tangent to one part of the podcast.

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Mhmm. Wow.

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You're welcome, everybody. So the next version of the sketch I wanna talk about because this is an extremely unique version that I can't ever recall seeing something like this done before Saturday Night Live. This is the one that was hosted by Alec Baldwin, February twenty second nineteen ninety seven. Night of the Roxbury sketch or, the Roxbury guy sketch appears right after the monologue. But not only does it not appear just after the monologue, it appears morphed from the monologue because Alec Baldwin's monologue is one of those monologues where he starts going around backstage and talking about how great Saturday Night Live is and how cool how cool, like, all the the background action is and everything. And they'd make some jokes about the background, but then they actually prepare him for the sketch live on air while he's doing the monologue. They put on his wig. They take off his shirt and jacket, put on a new one. He walks to the set of where the sketch is gonna be, exits through the door that he's going to enter, and they begin the Roxbury sketch straight from the monologue.

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That's fun.

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It's really cool.

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And that's a that's a choice. You know? That's a It is. A a different choice. Lauren was, like, gone the whole whole

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whole whole day. And Lauren's in the sketch. That's so crazy. Lauren's in the sketch Lauren's in the sketch appearing as a guy painting one of the matte backgrounds with a big paint overall suit on.

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You don't see a lot of formula changing

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Yeah.

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You know, with the show all that often.

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I I had never seen, seen it before. And so I was like, oh my gosh. This is really fucking cool.

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That's awesome.

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The

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one bad thing I will say about the Roxbury, Guy sketches is none of them are officially available online because of music rights. Right. Thanks to What is Love and the original song they used, they don't have the rights to keep paying to stream those. And they are not even available in the episodes that are on Peacock because that's where I originally tried to find them. The only way I was able to watch most of these sketches

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He got it off Craigslist.

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Was, a, Reddit, but, b, the actual more superior source because they have the more rare clips, and this is the only time I'll ever give them a compliment, is TikTok. TikTok is a treasure trove of old SNL sketches that are not available anywhere. That. Yeah. Yeah. It's incredible.

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Because TikTok doesn't give a shit about music rights?

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TikTok doesn't answer to any piracy laws because of China. So they don't really have to do it. Like, they there's no way to reinforce it. China. So it's a bummer because there are a lot of people pirating movies on TikTok in chunks. But when it comes

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Of all people that I think would have a problem with it, it

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would be you.

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I do. But when it comes to media But

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when it comes to the thing that I want No.

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No. Well, no. But when it comes to But I want No.

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I wanna see this, though. This I wanna see. see.

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see. see. So but here's the thing. And this is the trouble that I have with this is why I'm a physical media person is when you have, like, companies, like, big com conglomerates like NBCUniversal and stuff like that that take material of they off from streaming and don't have it officially available for her, whether it's because of music rights or because they just don't wanna pay to have it on a server somewhere anymore. That's when, like, okay. Well, then we have no choice but to pirate this if, like, we want to watch it because you don't make it available anywhere else for us to watch.

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And you also I didn't know this until Brad told me, but if you buy a movie on, like, iTunes, and it's in your library, they can just take it back and, like, make it go away.

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That's a hundred percent true. You do not own any of the digital movies that you have bought in the past. Even Even

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Even Even though he said, I purchased it. I bought it.

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They do not belong to you. All of your digital movies can disappear one day if

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they decide. But if I buy a physical DVD, I need a physical DVD player, which is clutter. And then I've gotta find places Clutter. Then I've gotta find places to put all the DVDs, which is a lot of space. It is.

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And then also, you have to, like

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Yeah. They have to tap on your DVD they have to tap on your DVD player and bang on it two times.

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You gotta get all the things.

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It's not an NES. It's It's not an old Nintendo.

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You get the the spray Yeah. And, like, and then you get a, a disc cleaner.

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They even take it to the, disc resell store so they can resurface it.

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Family Video used to offer that service.

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I remember that.

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It was, like, fifty cents, and then, like, Mike Flores would just be, like, and put it in the disc watcher and and give it back to me, like, wait. And I'm, like, is that a is that a sand wheel? Is that a is that a sander? I was, like, it actually looks worse when it came out. But But

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But But it did work better.

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It did work better. Yeah. It did. It did.

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Adam Sander.

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Oh, boy. Wow.

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Okay. So the next version is the first time we get a female host involved. Do you know do you know who it is?

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Jennifer Garner.

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No. Because this is nineteen ninety before.

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What was the show she was on?

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Alias. Yeah. It was It had been, like, just before Alias, probably.

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Alright. Mar Margo Kidder. No.

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No. No. No. No. No.

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No. Sanjay, what

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are you doing?

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You're well, here's the thing. You're asking me. You're getting, like, you're looking me, like, guess.

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Well, like, think of nineteen ninety seven. I wanna I wanna know your not not

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not not kidding. Let me

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let me see.

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Lois Lane

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is very famous. Listen to me. Let me see

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if you He He

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He He just kicked me.

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Let me see if you and I can do.

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Audrey, come here. Nights. Sunday nights. Okay.

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You got feeling that special feeling when you watch this show with women on the beach?

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Marge Simpson. Oh, sorry. Pamela Anderson.

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He was right. It's Marge Simpson. Yeah. Pamela Anderson hosted on April nineteenth nineteen ninety seven.

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Seven Sunday nights, I think.

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She was promoting barbed wire.

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Yes. And now this version is maybe a little more creepy than the typical version of the Roxbury guy. Because what we haven't mentioned up in this point is that, the Roxbury sketches maybe haven't aged quite as well because they follow two creepy guys who are forcing themselves upon women.

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Yeah. Well, and banging their crotches into them physically on the dance floor, rubbing their genitalia in a way that says we're fucking on the dance floor.

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Yes. It's a bit of a problem.

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It's a bit windy.

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Significant amount of sexual assault. Yes.

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Yes. Correct. And so

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Especially because in the very first one with Chariotary, if you watch that, she's looking at them, like, I don't want this. Oh. This is not what I want. Hundred percent.

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She never wants it.

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So it's nobody. None none of them ever

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want it. Yeah. But Pamela Anderson But they're

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like, you know what? Eight more of these and a movie.

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Pamela Anderson, doesn't want it either. But and so but so so she leaves the club, but they they follow her.

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Okay.

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Yeah. So So, like, she's she's in her own car and for somehow, they have her cell phone number. And so they both call her and she was she's like, what the and she throws her phone and smashes their windshield. The the funny part though

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Oh, yeah. What's the funny part? The The

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The The one that that works because that doesn't make any sense and is that, she's she's gone to, like, health club or she's, like, at her hotel or whatever. She's in the hot tub. That's the the SNL hot tub set that they have for sketches like this. And she's in the hot tub, and they just come rising out of the jacuzzi, which is a funny gag, you know? But but yeah. So Pamela Anderson was was the the first famous, female who was the object of their affection in The Rock's Paradise.

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Fun fact about this. K. In that sketch, there was another dancer in that sketch played by

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Jennifer Lopez.

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Nope. It was a male, The brother of Will Ferrell, Patrick Ferrell.

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Oh. Sketch. Yeah. Patrick Ferrell has popped up in some of Will Ferrell's movies as well.

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No. He he I I looked him up on, SNL archives dot net. If you're an SNL fan, certainly visit that site. I think he was probably in a dozen or two sketches on SNL as a background person. Mhmm. So, because again Similar

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to how Chris Farley's brother was also seen in the You

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know, if you ever watch the show and you know that there's some scenes that happen in cafes or clubs like this, they always need Extras. Extras. And sometimes they pull the

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staff in or

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the, you know Writers. The The

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The The writers, these kind of things. But if you've got a friend, hey, my brother my brother's in town. He wants to be on it. Great. Come come in here. And that's a fun story to give. So

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It is. Yep. The next one we got was with Sylvester Stallone, and this turned into a a Rocky themed version of the Roxbury.

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Wasn't he good? Lot Lot

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Lot Lot of Rocky jokes, in this one where he one where which was very concerning where, he doesn't know how to dance. And so when he tries to Stallone? Yeah. Not not not as an not as an actor as a character. He he doesn't know how to dance, and he he goes to, like, punch the woman instead. Oh my god. Like like Rocky, but it's like, woah. Wait. What's going on?

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We don't even do that.

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Like, we'll hump them, but don't punch them.

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We we we penis punch. We do not hand punch.

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But so the Patrick fails in that one too. I just is the Patrick Farrell podcast now? Thanks, man. Appreciate it.

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Yeah. Let's move on.

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That one. Hey. If you ever wanna interrupt if you're gonna interrupt the flow with other fun facts

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I I I'm I'm on I'm on Patrick Farrell watch right now. Yeah. Good. You know who else is in that? Ben's favorite, Jim Brewer.

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That is that is true.

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What what is what is wrong with you? Jim Jim

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Brewer is in this one, but they they do, one fun variation where they're in the car and they're listening to What is Love, but Sylvester Stallone, he he can't quite get the thing down so he changes the song to Eye of the Tiger and he's fucking just jamming out to that of course

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of course

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but yeah. And then, like, of course at the end, he's like, he admits that, like, he can't dance, but then they get him to do it, and it's like, it's funny. The next iteration would happen in December of nineteen ninety seven, and this, I actually kind of like the later versions of the sketch because, like, it evolved it into different They actually premises.

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They do the Yeah.

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Like like, they do the same thing at first, but then it changes into a thing. So, like, this is the one where they they start to throw Cherio Terry around between them, but then she's like, hey. Hey. Wait a minute. She's like, I don't really appreciate this. You know? She's like, not not one time did any either of you ever ask me if I wanted to dance. And And then she's like, you need to like to see a professional or something like that. So they go to a psychiatrist's office and the psychiatrist is played by Helen Hunt, and so she tries to get to, like, the the the root of, like, you know, why they're doing what they're doing and, like, to try and help them be better. And then there is a a fun cameo in this one. Can you guess in December of nineteen ninety seven with Helen Hunt as host who the guest might be?

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Haley Joel Osment.

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No. Why?

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I don't know. I just thought it was

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because it pay it forward?

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Yeah.

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It came on, like, two thousand one.

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Oh, well, you know what? They were still friends. What? I don't know.

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But you're close. You're on the right path.

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Jack Nicholson.

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Yes. Jack Nicholson pops in. So Helen Hunt, basically said

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Tries anger management.

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Tries to tell the guys that no one's into that, like, cool suit sunglasses slicked back hair. And Jack Nicholson comes in. He's like he's like, hey, honey. Are you almost done? And then,

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Oh, because he's playing the the therapist's husband. Yeah. Ah, okay. And And

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And And so the best part is that, the song begins at the very end when Jack Nicholson is leaving and he starts on the way out.

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Doing the thing. Yeah.

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So that that was a good one. The last one that they ever do is September twenty six nineteen ninety eight.

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Al Gore.

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No. Close though. Cameron Diaz. So what's interesting about this sketch is it kind of starts out like it's a completely different kind of sketch. It's at a completely different club. It's set up almost like a dark crime kind of vibe where Cameron Diaz

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crime club?

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Where Cameron Diaz is wearing this, like, black dress and a black wig. She talks to Billy Corgan from Smashing Pumpkins and addresses them, like, as such, like, they're there hanging out. It's just like, hey, Smashing Pumpkins.

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Hey, Billy Corgan in Smashing Pumpkins. No.

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She literally says, hey, Smashing Pumpkins. And so then so then it pans over. She's like, who's the new guys? And, of course, it's the Roxbury guys, and they're dancing. But this evolves because they it kind of takes them to where they've never gone before where she's into them. And she takes them back to, like, her her room and stuff. And, like, they seem seemingly start to hook up, but then she jumps out of the covers, and they're both in with each other where, like, Ferrell is, like, behind Catan. They're like, woah, woah, because homophobia is funny. Gay. But then we get, what is arguably, potentially, maybe a bigger cameo It's It's

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It's It's a crossover hit.

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Than Jack Nicholson. Can you guess who the other cameo might be?

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Ben Siller.

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No. I'll give you a hint. They're a former cast member and a former big time host. Think Eastern European.

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A former cast member and a and a and a a Eastern European Joe Piscopo.

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No. Characters. Characters.

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know. Well, there's two new guys on the scene, and they are wild and crazy guys. Dan Aykroyd and Steve Martin appear in this sketch. As those As two wild and crazy

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guys. Brothers.

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This is the first time the best Festering brothers have appeared on Saturday Night Live in twenty years when this happens. Last time it was was in nineteen seventy eight. And it was and the only time they ever appeared was when Steve Martin hosted the show. So this was a a curveball out of nowhere and the audience went fucking wild.

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I bet. Yeah.

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Like, I I I like I can't even imagine how exciting that would be because, like, I when I went to look up well, they had to have done this, like, more recently, but it had been twenty years since they did anything with those characters.

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They really

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did those characters before this four times.

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Yeah. They wasn't like a a super popular thing.

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For some reason, that's that would probably in the top ten for me characters Yeah. Of SNL that are kind of institution.

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We're two wild and crazy guys.

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And they weren't doing it all that much.

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Yeah. Exactly. So so yeah. So we get two Wild and Crazy Guys. Funnily enough, the next time that they appear wouldn't be for another fifteen years. And do you wanna know who hosted that episode? You

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talking about Wild and Crazy Guys? Yep. Yep. So that would have been, two thousand and thirteen?

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Two thousand, good good math.

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Yeah. No. He did math right.

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Twenty thirteen.

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That's why he's a business owner.

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Oh, yeah. It would have been, Peyton Manning.

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No. Close.

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Who else who else was killing Stop

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saying close. Every time I do you're gonna be like, Dakota Johnson.

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No. Who else was killing

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it on SNL at that point?

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In twenty thirteen, the lonely island.

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Well, get closer? You're getting closer. Getting warmer.

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Andy Samberg.

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Well, he's good. I mean, he why he's not hosting.

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Hey. Who Andy Samberg did a very famous, lonely island sketch with this.

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Dig in a box, so Timberlake's coming out?

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Oh. Timberlake was when two of them crazy guys came back again. Oh. So there you go. This and so that sketch in nineteen ninety eight, that was the last time, the Roxbury guys would ever appear on Saturday Night Live. The movie came out in October.

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And that's why.

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Well, no. So the movie would come out the next week, and and that's basically why the Roxbury guys came back.

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Sure.

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So the movie itself was released on October second nineteen ninety eight. As you might guess, it did not do well. It opened at number four at the box office the weekend it came out

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out of three?

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No no the movies that preceded it on the box office chart

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oh let me no I'm not gonna

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go that weekend Number one was Antz with a z. I I

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I I saw Antz. You didn't see Antz?

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I saw Antz. No. I I

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I I did see Antz.

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Good movie.

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Yeah. Yeah. Well, what what

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Yeah. Probably.

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has a z, so what?

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Number two, what dreams may come with Robin Williams.

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I like George Johnson.

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It's good. Do you

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know why I liked it? Tell me. Because it's super sad.

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Yep. Number three, Rush Hour.

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In its seventeenth week?

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Yeah. It had been, like, eight

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weeks. Yeah.

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Other movies on still on the charts at this time, though below Night of the Roxbury opening at number four, Ronin, Urban Legend, There's Something About Mary.

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That that would have been out for weeks and weeks. Twelve weeks Yeah.

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Still on the top ten incredibly.

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Well, because it was

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Saving Private Ryan in its eleventh week Great film. Blade

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In its third week.

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Rounders I have Stella got her groove back Oh, girl. And Small soldiers Yeah. With Phil Hartman.

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Full circle.

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Full circle, bitches. So neither the racks where it comes out, it's yeah. It's it's not well received. Overall, it's Tireboxup was run. It lasted in theaters about five weeks, and it is only making over thirty million dollars by the time it's done. Not a big hit Sure. For Sound Life. Now, will you But still did make back

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its budget at least. Like

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Sure. It was a small budget we made. Now, so did you guys see Neither Rockstar when it came out in theaters?

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I had no desire to see this one.

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I did not.

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Wow. Really? No. If

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it had because I also wasn't a Will Ferrell fan. Like, I like Will Ferrell on SNL. If this had Chris

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Harley I saw this on I would've

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saw this. I saw this on VHS. So at this time, I wouldn't have called myself a Will Ferrell fan necessarily because I

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I Will Ferrell had done nothing to be a fan of other than SNL. He wasn't a movie star. Yeah. He wasn't a a

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a a movie star and he really hadn't hit, like, a big stride on SNL yet even. Like, like, like, the they had done the cheerleaders and stuff like that, but, like He was making a name, but But it was never anything where, like, oh, man, I love Will Ferrell. You You

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You You know? Yep. Yep.

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But I wanna season theaters because I like the Roxbury sketches SNL. So, like, I I really liked it. And a big part of that was the Jim Carrey version of the sketch. Sure. That was the one that stuck in my mind. I was obsessed with Jim Carrey around this time, and so that like, I really like these Roxbury sketches. So I made sure that like my mom took me to see the movie, and, in front of the pod, at least go flicks yourself, not the Saturday Night Live podcast, but Charlie Young, who's a good friend of ours, is also a huge fan of Night at the Roxbury and we well, this was this was like one of our staples, growing up. We still make references to the movie to this day. It's it's not a good movie, but I love this movie because of just, like, when it hit when I grew up and so, like, it still makes me laugh. I I really enjoy it. But you guys didn't watch until it was on VHS? No. No. Nate, did you even see it much later than that?

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I don't think I saw this one till, like, ten years ago. Oh, wow. Interesting. And I've hated every time

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I watch this film. You you

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hate it?

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This film's awful.

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I just see I just like, it's I I feel like

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There's funny parts, but overall, it's

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so very, very bad.

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Like, I hate it's bad.

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This is in that level for me. No. Yep. It is it is. No. This has this okay. It's pat had no funny parts to it. Right? None. Like, maybe one. There was

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I left one. Yeah. One time.

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This probably had three or four for me, but I actually just found it obnoxious.

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I mean I

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found it obnoxious.

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It it's stupid, and it is obnoxious to an extent. But, like, there's something about Chris Catan's character in this movie that I I like that it flushes it out beyond what's in the sketch because you never really get a sense of like who they are as characters in the sketch. You don't hear Will Ferrell's voice is changes actually, once they do the the the nineteen ninety seven version with Helen Hunt, that's when you hear the Doug Butavi voice that he uses in the movie because it's a little like this. He talks like I hate it.

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Okay, guys.

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I hate it.

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What I'm really thinking about is what we need to do to open our own store.

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Yeah. Yep. And I kinda hated it. Honestly, I I

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I I just did I was fine. I still fine with it. I hated it. But yeah. So, like, that's the official voice that he gets. That's the voice he uses when even when they did the the nineteen ninety eight version. But I like Chris Kattan's energy in it. You know, it's it's very much signature Kattan. Like, it's it's it's, like, all over the place and, like, wild. But, like, I love the way he he dances. Like, there's great physical comedy in this movie, I think. I there's two gags and this is a very specific kind of laugh that, like, works for me and I don't know why, but I love a good sight gag where something is thrown and it makes a very loud, like, thunk or crash sound.

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Potted plants in the middle.

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Potted plants cracks me up every fucking time because if you watch Kattan while I was doing it, he's just chucking him at the side of the van. It's hard. And it's hilarious.

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I laughed when he when he breaks a window because it was unexpected. He goes broke the window again. Like, this has happened multiple times. I did laugh at the pots being thrown for sure. Yeah. But, like, the most annoying stuff is, like, at the gym when they're, like, do you have a power bar? There's an energy bar. You got this bar?

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No. I got a muscle triplicated bar.

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Fuck you. You're I want that on my life.

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But they're gym bros.

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No. That's bad humor.

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You know, right before this film came out, what, a year before maybe or two years, Clueless came out, and I I saw a review of this. This is Clueless without any charm or without any actual Yeah.

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Except this time he hates his

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sons. Right. And so but and there there funnily enough, there is a bit of a darkness behind that clueless vibe, because as Chris Kattan revealed, in his memoir, which is called, Cleverly Memoir. Baby Don't Hurt Me.

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Is it really called that?

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It really is. Yes.

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It makes me just I thought

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it was gonna be Mango Unchained.

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That's fucking hilarious. It's really good. I love that joke so much I'm not even laughing at it because I am so Impressed. Happy for you. I'm so happy. It's like like that that is like I have wow. You're really good. I am like I'm really mad too. Because that's a fucking great joke. Holy shit. Mango Unchained. Goddamn. If this were Go Flix Yourself, that's the name of the episode.

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Well, there you go.

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By the way, Will Ferrell had done one movie before this. Only one. What was the film?

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Oh, I I maybe I do have an answer for this. So early nineties Will Ferrell.

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I loved him in this film. And it obviously was a bit part. Like, you know, he wasn't getting starting parts yet, but a bit part. Well, I remember him. Ninety eight. Nineteen ninety seven.

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What were in ninety seven? What would Will Ferrell better in ninety seven? Oh my god. Yeah. I can't remember either. What a fun bit.

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Yeah. This is a good question.

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He did one.

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What is it, Nate?

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Yeah. What is it?

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Austin Powers' Internet.

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Oh, of course. Goddamn it.

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Mustafa. I love Is

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that his first movie?

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That's his first movie. Wow. And so, like, Will Ferrell, I think, is brilliant in there. And and it's a bit part, but he's just so freaking funny in this. Yeah. I remember leaving that film not knowing barely anything about Will Ferrell other than

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his That that that was some

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of the funniest thing. Hilarious.

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It's a bit it's it's beginning to turn gangrenous. Yeah. So it smells

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a bit like almonds. Which is not good.

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Which is not good.

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So, so that was a tangent that we had there. But so I was talking about Chris Kattan, and in his memoir, he wrote about how, Lorne Michaels basically pushed him into having a sexual relationship with Amy Heckerling Yeah. Who was the director of Clueless because Lorne wanted Amy to direct Night at the Roxbury, and so he encouraged Chris Kattan to strike up a relationship.

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Which is mafia level Yeah. Power that Lorne Michaels evidently holds.

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Well, and you well, you have to wonder though if maybe there was already, like, some kind of chemistry there and he, like, encouraged it. But either way, not cool.

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Well yeah. And and, again, this is in a memoir to sell books, so who knows if it's inflated or what? I I

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don't know. But they There's

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a lot of weird stuff out there.

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So so they did That's

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just weird if true.

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Apparently, they did hook up in her office. It did that did happen, but she didn't end up directing. She only ended up producing the movie. And so, that's her involvement actually is a big part of the reason the movie does not take place in New York, which is primarily where the sketches take place.

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Which I think was a bad I I

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I I don't know because I thinking about it, like, their vibe kind of fits a little bit more perfectly in in Los Angeles, I think, rather than New York. It's just, like, at at least the way it plays out in the movie. Like, their their kinds of characters fit better in Los Angeles than they do in New York.

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But the whole I thought watching the the actual sketches, like, I I I felt like it was a very New York type of setting.

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Right? New York club scene Sure. But the LA club scene isn't much different. But but the way the characters play out as far as, like, the kind of guys they are and, like, their parents and that kind of thing fits better with the Lara like, actually actually, I was specifically talking to, BJ Colangelo. She's a writer at Slashfilm. And she said ever since she's moved to Los Angeles, she lives close to, like, an Armenian neighborhood. And she said there are so many specific references in this movie that she understands much more now because of where she lives.

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That's fair. And and the whole, again, Clueless connections, the California kind of felt, again, derivative of that too. Yeah. I felt like setting it in New York City could have been a little bit more of a separation from Clueless as

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Oh, for sure.

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The plot kind of device.

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For sure. Yeah. But, yeah, Amy Heckerling, apparently, she had said, like, they didn't wanna deal with what she referred to as, like, the the bridge and tunnel, you know, scene and, like, figuring out how to make if that, like, could be part of the movie and, like, all that kind of stuff. It's just

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harder to shoot in New York City than it is.

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That I mean I mean Just just buy anything. Sure. But but yeah. So so yeah. So that's kind of a dark thing and so the the relationship with Heckerling is actually, the reason that there was a falling out between Chris Kattan and Will Ferrell. So Chris Kattan and Will Ferrell, at the time the movie comes together, have been friends for a long time. They both came up at the Groundlings. They came up with the Roxbury guys at the Groundlings. This is something that they had and that was part of their friendship and they're coming up in comedy before they even came on Saturday

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Night Live. On SNL. This is yeah. These are these are guys that were nothing together.

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Yeah. And so so as it goes, apparently, what happened is, because of the the relationship, Chris Kattan, he says that at one point, Farrell told Chris Kattan, he's like, so I got all your messages, but I didn't call you back because I didn't wanna talk to you. And Which is the best.

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If I remember that I got all your messages over the summer break. Right. You know, now we're back at SNL, and now we've gotta work together again.

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Right. So So

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So So he comes up to us and says, I got all your messages. I didn't call you back because I didn't want to.

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Which is stepbrothers

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for me. Exactly. I mean, that's but it's also, like, a hundred percent honest. Yep. Right? No excuses, but also, like, fuck this. I don't wanna call you.

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Yeah. And this would explain probably why there are no Roxbury sketches from September nineteen ninety seven.

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They were still on the show for three more years?

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Yeah. To to September nineteen ninety eight when the movie comes out because they had already had their falling out during production of the movie between that season and the the next season.

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Does it say why they fell out? It's It's

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It's It's I I it sounds like Ferrell was upset that Chris Kattan engaged in the relationship at like to to try and benefit the movie.

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But why? I I

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I I mean, I don't know. Because it's kind of a a sketchy thing to, like, agree to and

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Well, according to Chris Kattan, he was pressured to do so by Lorne Michaels.

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Sure. But he still did it. I mean

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I I get it. Right? But, like like, I feel like Chris Kattan's put in a really weird place

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I don't know.

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By

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Maybe there's more in the producer of

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the film and his boss. Well, there's there's more of the story on.

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That's what I'm saying.

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There's your side, my side, and the truth. Right?

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I feel

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like there's There's a lot going on here that we have no idea

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about. There's layers there.

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So many.

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I'm not understanding. So I'm

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gonna point out something, an interesting fact about this too. And this is something that, Nathan Rabin, who is a writer, for used to be be

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be be Not me.

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Not me. Used to be the AV club. He actually is, does a really interesting series about Saturday Night Live where he's going through each episode one by one. He does, like, a couple a week. He's written about Saturday Night Live a lot, and he did like a retrospective on this movie back in like twenty seventeen or something like that. He says, he so he interviewed Chris Kattan and Amy Heckerling because they did interviews together when they were doing press for Night at the Rocksbury.

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Which is also insane Insanely awkward. That you would no. No. Insane because why wouldn't you have the two stars? Oh, because they end up falling out. So that's a producer?

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Yeah. When's the

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last time you saw a producer? So they started to

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write letters. Ever since he even mentioned that. Like, ever since he found that out, he's, like, oh, well, that explains that, and that's really weird. It's weird. Yeah. So he's so he says this about, he said, incidentally, the the two movies I was thinking about writing up today when he wrote this article were Steward Saves His Family and A Night at the Roxbury, both of which were co written by men who had secret sexual relationships with Heckerling. Harold Ramis, the co writer and the director of Stuart Sage's Family, even had a secret child from his secret affair with Amy Heckerling. Who is Amy Heckerling? Crazy.

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She's got that good good evidently. Yeah. That's

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Only in Hollywood.

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Only in Hollywood.

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I mean, let's be honest. The two men she's sleeping with aren't like

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Well, that's also very true. It's Chris Kattan and Harold Ramis.

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But so but I I like the Los Angeles vibe of this movie that comes with it because then we they, like, you you get Richard Grieco being there cruising around in his illegal Ferrari. It's a fun cameo.

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I also, did watch a clip of a podcast from two or three years ago with Emilio Estevez. And it and the woman is in her twenties, and she goes, I love Night of the Rocks parade. I'm sure you get this all the time. But when you were the mighty duck man himself, Emilio Emilio, did that happen to you all the time? He goes, it happens every day. That's awesome. He goes, it's still one

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of my favorites.

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It still

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happens to him

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every day.

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I love that. And they they

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they they were really

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trying to I'm not even sure I would be able to resist.

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So then so he tells the story. He goes so then one time, and this is, like, a few years after the movie came out, I'm at a function. It's an all day thing, and Catan's there. And I can see him kinda side eyeing me and, like, just, you know, not really. And he comes up, and he goes, are you you mad at me? And he goes, for what? He goes, you know, for the thing. He's like, I don't know what you're talking about. What what do you mean? And he goes and so then he says, and this is gonna be the the exaggeration. Yeah. He says, Kattani, in that moment goes, Emilio. And everybody turned their heads and says, I wasn't mad before, but I'm mad now. So I don't know if that's the

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the bit. That's that's a bit, but Still

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a big joke. Yeah.

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That that is really funny. Yeah. Gosh. That's I yeah. I can't imagine that.

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It happens every day.

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So funny.

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There was another actress, famous actress, that made her film debut in this. At the end, she was a bridesmaid. Who was it?

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That's correct. I I found I also found out that this was Eva Mendez's first movie ever. Oh.

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Yep. I'm not gonna lie to you guys,

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and I know this is controversial. Molly Shannon's hot.

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I have a big crush on Eva Mendez.

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So does Ryan Gosling.

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Yep. For sure.

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I just don't think I have a chance, though.

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I don't think you do.

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Is your

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your name your full name is Nathan. Correct?

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Yes.

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Not Nathaniel? No. Okay.

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If you were Nathaniel, maybe. Mhmm.

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Yeah. That's

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also Will Ferrell met his wife on this film.

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Yes. That's true. It's the only movie they've ever appeared in together. She plays, like, a a random Yeah. But person. Next film. Isn't that fun? The other, coming back to something I was talking about before, the other physical thing that makes me funny that is the same sound throwing thing is when, Will Ferrell's crying in the van, and he's like, Hey hot lady, what's shaking? And they just throw the milkshake at the van, the sound it makes, like, it fucking cracks me up every single time. And Chris Kattan's reaction is great too because he's like, oh, don't worry about it. We'll clean it up later.

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It's a bad movie. Right?

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Yeah. I don't I don't disagree. No. You're fine. I don't disagree. We're in the It's a bad movie. I think it's very funny, though.

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Okay. There are times, though. I hundred percent agree with you where

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Chaz Palminteri is hilarious.

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No. He's

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Every time he's

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on screen. He's good. He's good.

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The the whole, you know

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Do you grab my ass?

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Who grabbed my ass? The, Jim Carrey, you you pet detective son of a Moping. That's good. You know? It's good.

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But it's funny when we're thirteen. It's not as funny.

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No. It's still funny. It's still funny. It shows. To prove to prove to prove this, I'll show you. My mom was laughing at this movie today when I when I watched it. I put it on, and she was laughing at it. Yeah. But your mom likes Chaz's butt. Weird.

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She wants to grab the butt.

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So the the music song and dance sequence I guess you can call it in the middle of this movie I think is very good because it's it's very funny like the the physical comedy aspect is is really funny it's also like edited and choreographed very well with the music Like, it's it gives you, like, a good nineties club energy.

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I love you with all my heart, but you're stretching you.

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I'm I'm really not.

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One thing that I think is to to my, whatever, fourteen year old brain or or sixteen year old brain when I saw this, one thing that I thought was awesome and that I don't think is as awesome anymore is the idea of that they had to have the club. The the way it looks like you're inside when you're outside and outside. I thought even back then, and and for those of you that don't know, I had, some escape I had an escape room business, and I loved theming and designing. And that probably back then was like, oh, yeah. You can make the inside look like the outside and the outside look like the inside. I just I lost my mind at that when I was that age. I I'd love shit like that.

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It doesn't make any sense though because they have actual club furniture outside of the club and if it rains it's ruined.

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Yeah. That's like the old Holiday Inn in La Plur

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Exactly why it's a terrible Nobody.

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Nobody. But but they have actual club furniture out like, in the elements. Lure. Yeah.

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Stuff that will be matted and smell like wet dog immediately.

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But, no. Like, speaking of Chaz Palminteri and that sequence, though, I love when they're dancing with each other and they all, like, grab each other's butts. It's like, there's some good ass grabbing going on there.

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What a weird

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That's fine.

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That's fine.

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That's a

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that's a nice little I mean, I can I could

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try?

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I have seen this movie so many times that I noticed

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something Why would you ever watch

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this again? I have seen this movie more than you would even want to watch any movie.

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I love so much respect for you.

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I have respect for myself, and that's all that matters. Do you? Yeah. Do you? I'm good enough. I'm smart enough, and doggone to people

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like me.

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That's a film.

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That is a film. You think think

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think think you do?

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If that's a but I don't think you do. do.

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do. do. That's fair.

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Wait. Which which which is better? This or Stuart saves his family?

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I enjoy this more than Stuart Sages' family. No. No.

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No. No. Not even

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I think Stuart Sages' family is the better film, but I enjoy this more than Stuart Sages' family.

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Was actually trying to be a a

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a a better film. Not saying anything.

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I wanna know what Ben is saying.

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This is by far the funnier film. Okay. No. There's five times I laughed out loud. Stewart's Family is not a comedy whatsoever. It's a it's a drama. And it's a drama. It's a great comedy. It's a drama. It's a great movie.

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Which one would you watch again? I I

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I I would watch Serious Incident Family again.

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As you should. Yep.

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I'll watch Night of the Rexburg tomorrow.

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Okay. Anyway, what's your point?

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There

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is this is a PG thirteen movie. There is Okay. A moment, when they go to Chaz Palminteri's character's house where the camera is panning across the party in the yard and sitting in the pool is a woman with no top and her boobs are just sitting right out there and no one noticed.

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It doesn't shock me that you figured that out.

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I didn't even realize that. It was a thing. Okay.

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I didn't see that either. Yeah. Yeah.

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Yeah. Yeah. So what what Brad's trying to say is you're not allowed to do that in a PG thirteen movie. Yeah.

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No. You cannot have bare boobs in a PG thirteen movie, but they made it in, and they are right there for everybody to see. Thirteen year olds included.

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Did you see it when it came out?

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No. I didn't notice this until, like, repeat watching this.

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Until I paused it frame by frame as I normally do on Tuesdays. There's a

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repeat watching tonight. This part of the tape was worn out. But no. I mean, yeah. The Emilio gag is hilarious. The Will Ferrell's ambulance sounds like we were doing before is is really funny. Yeah. I don't know. I just I I I get a lot of enjoyment out of me.

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It tickles a very

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specific The say anything reference at the end is very funny.

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That's that's fun. That's fun.

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It's not a joke. The Jerry Maguire riff? Fun. Jerry Maguire riff?

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It's fun. It's fine. It's not

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gonna say funny. That was a fun scene, but a lot of funnies.

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This movie's very funny.

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I know you're trying to sell it, and I love that for you. But, like, actually, I will say this. I thought Molly Shannon was one of the better parts of this film.

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Yeah. She loves making out.

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She's great, though.

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No. I think she's pretty funny in this. Yeah. I I get why I think maybe they were making Superstar right at the same time, were they? I think they green lit both of those films. I I

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I I imagine they probably went and pressed on Superstar, like, right after this.

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Yeah. And so but I get that because she she does have so much talent. And I know that film's not any good, but, like, she has so much talent. And she's she's charismatic when she's on like, she does this thing that I get. Like, I I get why people like Molly Shannon when you watch it. Yep.

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Well, yeah. There are critics who agree with you. I picked two of, my my more favorite, commentaries about this. Nathan Rabin, funnily enough, wrote a pretty scathing review of Night of the Roxbury. And he can be a little bit pretentious when it comes to certain comedy things sometimes, so I'm like He just

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likes good comedies.

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So here's what Nathan Rabin said, while he was writing at the AV Club. And the first part of this will make you be like, oh, hold on a second, motherfucker. So hold on. Apparently seeking to continue Chris Farley's enduring legacy of awful Saturday Night Live derived buddy comedies

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Go fuck yourself. See, I told you. You're done.

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Chris Kattan and Will Ferrell bring their clueless disco dancing club hopping SNL characters newly christened the Batabi brothers to the big screen in the Night of the Roxbury. Faced with the daunting task of transforming a skit involving a pair of hapless near mute disco dwellers into a feature length movie, the filmmakers have given the brothers a backstory seemingly assembled at random from discarded scripts from past SNL projects. Ouch. For the record,

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Black Sheep's not a good film. Black Sheep is a thousand times better than this. Yes. There are

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so many more laughs in Black Sheep.

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I agree with that. But, yes, Black Sheep is not good.

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There are there are so many more thousand times better. There are so many more laughs in Beverly Hills Ninja

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than there are in the I will that I won't go that far. Beverly Hills Ninja and either Roxbury are equally bad, and they each have funny moments.

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Beverly Hills is just bad. Black Sheep is Very bad. Wagons East Black Sheep is

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just fine. That's not even remotely true, and you know it.

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Black Sheep, I think, is fine. It's not good or bad. It's fine. Beverly Hills Ninja is bad, but I still like it.

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Kill Whitey. I laugh at that every night. night.

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night. night. I laugh hard at them every time. The bat scene with

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Yeah. Oh, exactly. That That

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That That that'll

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There's plenty in there.

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Falling down the hill.

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Let's talk about that one. Yeah.

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Like, yeah. Like, can we just talk about that movie?

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I do wonder once we're out of SNL movies if we should. We We

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We We should

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just do the Farley movies. If If

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If If we want, we just go through the movies of SNL stars that kinda, like, happen well. Anyway, Roger Ebert. This is my favorite one.

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I like

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Raj. D kapesch of Chicago writes, do you ever find yourself distracted during a screening by thoughts of their view you will write later? Distracted to the point of missing part of the film? Sometimes, it gets much worse than that, d. Sometimes, a movie is so witless that I abandon any attempt to think up clever lines for my review and return in defeat to actually watching the film itself. I approach it as an opportunity for meditation. My mantra is, a Night at the Roxbury is such a

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movie. So

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I agree with Raj.

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Well, this is one of the cases where Roger Ebert was wrong. Mhmm. So, and I don't say that often. But when it comes to Night at the Roxbury, a classic comedy

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Oh, boy.

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And I think we've said all we could say about it.

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Yeah. Like, I like that Brad's looking at, like and now that, like, time has passed and the criterion collection version has come out, I think we all know that it's aged very gracefully and that it's just it's like a fine wine.

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Yeah. I mean, how often do you get a post humus essay from Paul, or or shit. It's not even worth it anymore.

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Thomas Anderson?

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I was gonna say Hunter s Thompson, and I started saying Paul Thomas Anderson, and I started saying Paul Thomas Anderson, and said, nah. It's not even worth it. No. That stays in, Nate.

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No. Yeah. Yeah. He needs to be punished.

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That's a fuck up, and I'll I'll I'll own something. You're gonna own that you're gonna own that one? Yeah. That fucked that joke up.

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Sorry, guys.

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Would have been gold if I landed the delivery, but listeners

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don't know how many times that happens in episode. Yeah. Yeah.

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Yeah. Yeah. I had a triple lutz planned for this performance, and I fucking knocked

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Not getting a gold medal tonight.

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We're not professional professional editors, so I think they have kind of an idea how how many times it happens in an episode.

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No. We hide a lot. Brad and I hide a lot when we get

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into these episodes. Mhmm. Yeah. Most of it from Ben.

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Yeah. Final thoughts on the, A Night at the Roxbury besides the fact that it's great? It's not good.

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It's a great nineties soundtrack. It's got a lot of bangers.

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I don't I don't like dance music.

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I don't like dance music either, but I like this soundtrack. Okay.

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Ben, anything from you?

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I'd I'd like the only thing we didn't touch on is we did a little bit. Sorry. The Molly Shannon character. I like I

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touched on that.

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The dynamic between Will Ferrell and her and his just reluctance to just, like, I guess this will be my life.

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They could have done more without it.

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Really, if they would have explored that, it could have been a way better movie. But Agree.

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Their chemistry is very good. It It

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It It yeah. And I see why Superstar probably the cast worked there as well because Will Ferrell's in that movie as well. But, Molly Shannon and and and Will Ferrell's relationship was an underrated part of of this film. And Dan Haidai is great, and Chaz Palminteri Palminteri

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Mhmm.

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Is great. They're they're very, very good in this movie.

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Alright. We wanna hear from you. Let us know what you think about this film. If you liked it as much as Brad or if you disliked it as much as I did, or if you're just, you know, kind of in the middle like Ben.

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I liked it more than Nate, a lot less than Brad.

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I love this movie.

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So sound off in the comments on the Facebooks and let us

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know. Yep. Alright. Hey. Where can people find you?

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Oh, you can find me at slash film dot com. Sometimes I'm writing about Saturday Night Live. Sometimes I'm writing about Saturday Night Live movies. I actually just recently wrote an article about a little bit of trivia in in Wayne's World that I didn't know about, which, you can go read about that if you want. It's con it's concerning the Led Zeppelin Stairway to Heaven reference. Oh. You can find a little interesting factoid about that on slash room dot com. You can also find me on Twitter at Ethan underscore Anderton, and, stick around because we have plenty more Saturday Night Live movie festivities coming in.

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You can find Nate and I, on Go Fix Yourself, our

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other You gotta know you and I have a podcast.

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Go fix yourself.

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You guys you guys still fuck around on Twitter too?

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Here and there. Make bad jokes about Airbuds sometimes.

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What else is new? The next movie in our list I believe is superstar correct yes superstar starring Molly Shannon with Will Ferrell in two different roles, and we'll be, we'll be watching that in, and coming back to talk about it in a couple weeks.

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Plays Bruce Dexter and his evil twin, Dex Brewster.

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Alright. On that joke, we're gonna let you go, but, we look forward to please rate and review this podcast and keep listening. We'll be with you all summer. Thanks so much for listening. Be good to yourself, be good others. Bye bye.

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