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Myths and Truths About Hiring Virtual Assistants
Episode 461st May 2025 • The One Small Change Podcast • Yvonne McCoy
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In this insightful episode of the One Small Change podcast, Yvonne McCoy explores the powerful impact of small, strategic changes with guest Diane Rolston. Diane shares her journey from solo entrepreneur and overwhelmed mother to thriving business owner, all sparked by the decision to bring virtual assistants (VAs) into her workflow. She elaborates on when and how to delegate, debunks the top myths around hiring VAs, and discusses the transformative effects outsourcing can have on productivity, profits, and personal freedom. Diane offers actionable steps, practical tips, and resources to help listeners recognize when they’re VA-ready and how to maximize this game-changing support, especially for women entrepreneurs who often struggle with asking for help.

QUOTE FROM GUEST:

"You have permission to ask for help. We are not meant to be silos. Everyone has the ability to get help to scale your business, to have the financial success and the freedom you want."

CHAPTERS:

00:00 Balancing Entrepreneurship and Freedom

05:29 Business Growth Through Delegation

08:31 Streamline Tasks for Business Growth

12:55 "Delegation and Virtual Assistance Simplified"

17:17 VA Engagement Strategy: Four Clients

20:36 Virtual Assistant Backup Solutions

23:38 "Client Needs and VA Matching"

25:07 Managing Miscommunications with VAs

28:40 Maximize Productivity Through Brain Dumps

34:15 "Subscribe and Engage for Growth"

36:03 "Embrace Change, Stay Curious"

LINKS:

https://www.dianerolston.com/

The Ultimate Delegation Task List: Diane is sharing her list of 229+ tasks you can delegate right now: https://keap.page/mw315/229-tasks-you-can-delegate1.html 

5 Critical Problems to Avoid When Delegating: Avoid common pitfalls and set yourself (and your new VA!) up for success: https://keap.page/mw315/copy-of-5-problems-in-delegating.html

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Welcome to the One Small Change podcast. I am so thrilled that

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you decided to spend some time with us today as we embark on this journey

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of exploration and transformation. I'm your host Yvonne McCoy,

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and I bring almost thirty years of entrepreneurial experience

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and a passion for discovering growth through the power of

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seemingly small change. So I wanna make sure that,

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you know, you get great value for spending time with us that's

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gonna help you in that journey of exploration and inspiration. And this

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week, we are talking to the amazing Diane Ralston,

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and she is gonna share with us some smaller unexpected,

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decision or change that sparked a transformation and

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growth in her personal or professional life. Diane,

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thank you for spending time with me today. Thanks for having

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me. Such a joy to be here. Oh, that's great. I can't wait for

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you to tell my audience what you do and

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how that that small change steered you in that direction or

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helped you to do it better. Well, I I look

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forward to sharing more. Yes. So go for it. Tell us tell

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us about yourself. Okay. Well, I, I

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started my coaching practice over fourteen years ago, you know, leaving

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corporate, coming into my own. And I came

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from a company where I had a lot of support. I was using a lot

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of my skills, which was amazing. But then going on my

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own, becoming a coach, a professional speaker, author, and

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running a women's community, I started to realize,

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wow, I had a lot of support before.

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And I was thinking like going on my own

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is amazing and doing my own thing is great, But

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I couldn't keep up with everything that had to be done. And

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so maybe you know what it's like, you know, to have to do everything on

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your own in the beginning. And I was experiencing

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that. Maybe your listeners have felt that too. And I

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also became a mother of two. So I had two children under

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three at the same time, and I was building a business.

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Yeah. So I was really overwhelmed, right, with all

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I had to do and also being a mother. And I

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wasn't making the type of money that I wanted to be making, even though I

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was doing great work, because I just couldn't keep up with the cash flow activities,

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you know, getting more leads, following up with people that I

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had met Mhmm. Finishing off programs to actually

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be able to launch them properly. And so I thought,

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okay. I'm going to

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work, work, work, work, work, work. And then I started to have the finances,

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but then I didn't have the freedom. Right. But, like, how can I

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have both? So I'm helping my life coaching clients and my

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business clients to try to have that freedom, but why did, why couldn't I have

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it? So I ended up hiring a local assistant,

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like a admin assistant sort of thing.

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And as a lot of entrepreneurs find in the beginning,

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you're putting the money into that and then you need to have the return.

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And I couldn't have enough hours with her because

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the finances needed to be even higher to maintain both of us

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in a career. Right. And then we started struggling with

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tech. Because as you know, Yvonne, like, tech just keeps changing

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all the time. You and I are using tech right now to have this amazing

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conversation. And so I thought,

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ugh, I need I need some more help. And so I

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ended up hiring and this is, like, the big the big shift for

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me. I ended up hiring someone from The Philippines. I

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first hired a coach to teach me how to do that, And then I got

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myself a virtual assistant or as people say, a VA. I

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actually hired two in the end and I had them start

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developing my systems, my processes.

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And then that's when I went, ah, I now have a big girl business

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because things, the foundation of my business were starting to

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be in place. And then that's go oh, you ask. Go

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ahead. No. I was just gonna say your story is

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so amazing, and yet it's not unique, the the

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bones of it. I think as we go through that entrepreneurial

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journey, if we're coming out of business, we discover

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that we have lots of support and suddenly now we have to wear all the

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hats. Yeah. And then you always have

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that time money thing that you're going after. It's like, you

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know, if if I have the time, I don't have the money. And if I

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have the money, I don't have the time. And, you know, in some place in

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there, your family has to fit, you know, that kind of thing. And

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so the thing that you're talking about is absolutely

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what my audience needs to hear about.

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Yeah. And, you know, as you're mentioning that, it reminded me of a couple of

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pivotal moments where I just feel like I'd,

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I'd hit a a bottom when

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one of my, so I was running a women's community called Dynamic Women, had

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eight locations, running events every month. And

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one of those members said to my daughter who was about six at the time,

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so do you wanna be an entrepreneur or business owner when you grow up? And

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I was like, I was just gonna say yes. You know what she said?

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Very strong and quick, no. And they were like,

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why not? And she's like, my mom works all the time. That's what my kids

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said. And I was like, ah,

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like, heartbroken because

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she doesn't see the flexibility that being my own boss does allow

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me, the fact that I'm able to work and live in my passions.

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She didn't see all of that. Right. Which which was really sad.

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But in hiring the two Filipino VAs,

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I was able to hit just a new level of

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almost, it was almost like jet fuel for my business,

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you know? Because then if you've read the e myth,

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if your listeners have, the idea of we come into business and we're the

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technician, but we also have to be now the

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CEO and the manager. And so that's a lot of

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roles And all we really want to do is our core

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competencies or our zone of genius, which for me was coaching

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and speaking and leading these women's events and writing books and programs.

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But there I was, you know, in Disney in the bath bathroom, on

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my computer, finishing off some stuff that I really should have

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been passing off. And so finally I had

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two people who had the tech knowledge, the

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speed, and the ability to get

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those things done. And so that's when I really took off. And that's when I

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started to have the financial freedom and then

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the time freedom. So I started to feel really

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supported, really grew my business. And

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definitely like one of the most important things I think people think about is I

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increase my profits. Right? So

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that was important. I have a lot of questions. I have a lot of

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questions. One of the things that I think

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is really important is I think women in particular

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say, I want somebody like me, which to me is the

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biggest mistake that you could make because then what you've got

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is a lot of the same stuff and you've got big

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holes of the same stuff. Right? And so

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how does having a VA smooth that out? Also

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from an economic perspective, I jokingly say if I

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when I'm doing this, I'm actually paying an MBA to do what I should be

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paying, you know, a file clerk to do or something like that. I mean, I'm

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paying major bucks to do a job that is not a

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major bucks job. Yeah. Well, that's what I found

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with hiring local was that I was paying a higher fee

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than I would if I if I went to a country like The Philippines.

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And, before anyone comes for me, I pay them very well.

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They're very happy. That's not an issue. But it's

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just the way the way the different economies work. Right? And

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so I knew that if I because I needed more hours, but I also

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needed more knowledge and more tech experience.

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And if I was gonna do that, I would need to be going up to

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75 to a hundred dollars an hour where I was like, I I

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just can't sustain that at forty hours a week.

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Right? And so it's that knowledge of

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what are the tasks that I have to do? Those high income, high

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quality,

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and so high income producing activities and then the high quality

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tasks. And then on the flip side knowing what are those

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lower and lower income producing tasks,

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but what also can someone else do for you that helps

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you move the financial needle of your business? And it could be

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clearing things off your plate so that you can do those cash flow activities,

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but it might also be that they're doing things that move things

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forward. So the fact that I can now have an idea for

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a program, create an outline for it, pass that off in just a

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Word doc to my VA or in a voice memo, and

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they create the landing page and set

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up the payment system and then sync

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that to my CRM with the welcome emails and then

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set up all the meetings on Zoom

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and then send all the reminder emails. Mhmm. And then

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I give them that the actual course outline, and then they create all my

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PowerPoints, and then I record them, and now they're editing and then putting

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up on the system. Like, the speed to which I can work

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is phenomenal. And I think that's what gets a lot of business

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owners is it can feel like it takes so long to get

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anything done. So I'm gonna I'm gonna

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ask you a couple of things. So

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this is gonna be easy for you. I'm sure. What

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so when do you know that you're VA ready? That you're ready to have

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a VA? And the reason I say that is it reminds me

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so much of when, you know, you hire somebody, you know, when your

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mother would hire somebody to clean and spend two days cleaning before

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they got there. You know, I don't have two days to clean

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so I can have somebody to clean. And, also, you know, that

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myth of kind of,

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they're not gonna be able to do it the way I do it. So let

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me just tell you a little bit about my idea about it. And I believe

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in delegation kind of in the reverse order because what you we're usually

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taught is delegate, you know, automate, and eliminate. I believe in doing

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it in reverse order, and I, you know, my sis I do

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models. I like acronyms. So it's called, productivity

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ahead. So the first thing is is awareness. What

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situation am I in? What am I doing? What's going on in my life? What

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you know, whatever. So it's like if you're in a burning fire, this is not

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a time to learn how to, you know, make a campfire kind of thing. Right?

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Then it's what can I put on hold? And those are usually ideas. What

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then what can I eliminate? Then what can I automate? And sometimes automation

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is not technical. It's just, you know, you have a system for something. And then

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what you're left with is the important things in your business that

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you need to delegate. And I think a delegation is training. You're

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actually helping to train somebody to take stuff that is money

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producing off your plate. Yeah. So the

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my quest so having said that, my question is,

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when should people start thinking about a VA? What do they need to do to

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get ready for that? Yes. So

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I have had people come to me with just a business idea.

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And if they haven't had a business already, I

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suggest that they work with a coach first to get the basics of

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business in place. What's your vision mission? What colors are you

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wanting? To show up to a VA and be like, I need a

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website, but I don't know what what I'm gonna say on it. And I don't

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know my colors and I don't have a logo on it. It's just, we're kind

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of jumping the gun a little bit. But if you've been in business before, you

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understand all of those things. And so you can jump in with a VA because

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you're gonna be like, I need to research on the colors. I need a logo.

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Maybe you're you're gonna already know. But I really suggest you work with a

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coach. So sometimes people come to me looking for a VA and they end up

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getting a VA and a coach in me in order to be

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able to make the strides they need to make

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without wasting time and still being able to maximize their VA's

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time. Also, a lot of people come to me and they'll say, Diane,

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so I'm gonna get a VA soon. I just need to get all

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my systems and processes in place. And I say, hold up. No, you

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don't. Or they'll come to me and they'll say, I just need to figure out

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what to delegate and then I'll hire one of your VAs. And just to

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kind of put put the little piece in there where I haven't said yet, I

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did end up starting a virtual assistant agency programs called VA Made

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Easy because too many people kept coming to me and saying, how did you hire

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from The Philippines? What do you delegate? How do you delegate? How do you do

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systems and processes? How do you train? How do you give feedback? How do you

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communicate? How do you track the product? All these things. And I said, don't

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worry about it. I'll help you. So a few things to

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be thinking about is if you

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have too much work, meaning too

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many things to do that are outside

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of your knowledge, you need a virtual assistant to take care of it

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for you. If you are lucky enough to have a

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lot of work coming in, but you feel like leads are slipping through your

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fingers or you're kind of dropping the ball, you need a

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virtual assistant. And so what I do is I take people

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through a lot of different activities, really simple ones

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that have really powerful results in showing them

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exactly what they can delegate. A lot of times people come to me with

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like the shiny object syndrome and they're like, it'd be really cool if I could

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have this and this and this and this, and maybe they could do this for

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me. And I say, hold up. What are

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your main goals for this year? Oh, well, I wanna

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write a book and I and I wanna update my website,

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and I wanna bring in 10 new clients. And I'm like, great. So

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let's have your VA support you in making those goals happen. Mhmm.

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And sometimes it's taking stuff off their plate that they haven't had time to do.

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Sometimes it's the back end setting everything up. But that's really the key

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piece because if

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if you think you have to wait until you can figure out all your systems

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and processes, which, by the way, I teach my VAs how to make

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your systems and processes for you, if you wait to figure out all the

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things you can delegate, like, don't reinvent the wheel. I have lists

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of tasks. I have training videos. I have checklists

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and instructions. You can just copy all of mine. Right?

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And being that I have in my own business

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coaching, public speaking, workshops, leading communities,

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events, podcast publishing, YouTube

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publishing, blogs, books. I don't say

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all of this to brag. I say all of this, like, tap into my

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IP, my intellectual property. I share it with people.

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Right? That's that's the easiest way to get ahead.

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And I think I think the other the other thing that holds us back

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is if I hire somebody, I'm now

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responsible for them. You know? This is how much money I

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have, but is that really enough? You know? Is, like, five hours a

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week enough, you know, that I can I know I can sustain that?

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How do you how do you balance that? So

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I had a a client come. She was working in a job, and she wanted

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to start her own kind of side business and move into that. And she said

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to me a few months in, when I asked her the question, what would you

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say to someone who's kind of on the fence and not sure if they're ready

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to to start with their VA? And she said, start when you're

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not ready because because the best thing

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that this did for me was it lit a fire under my butt.

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I knew I was responsible for someone. And so in those moments when

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I'm like, I'll just watch Netflix. Oh, I'll just

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scroll Facebook. She was like, I knew I couldn't. I had to do things.

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And so she was able to have better business success because it

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motivated her to have someone. Plus that

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person there was able she'd say, I'm not sure about this. And she the

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VA said, I'll research that for you. Right? So there was a lot of

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time where she was able to move forward faster and then she

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got even more inspired because she was like, woah, look at the results. Well, look

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at my website. Look at this, look at that. That she, it was

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so beneficial for her to be able to kind of start when

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she did. And you can start smaller, right? You can start

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smaller, but there's key. How small is small?

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Well, you know, with my, with my clients, we start at ten hours a week.

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Reason being VAs need steady

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work. Right. Right? And so kind of of the idea of

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generally our VAs have four clients at ten hours a week.

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This gives them steady income. So they're focused on just the

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four people. They're not looking for other work, and they're not inundated

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with twelve, twenty clients trying to get their attention.

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This way, they're also using the same project management tools, the

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same communication tools, the same way of doing things. So

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it helps them to do a better job with their clients. If you're gonna hire

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a VA for a couple hours a week, you are also

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competing for the attention of the VA with all of their other clients.

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My feeling is when you work that ten hours a week with your client with

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your VA, they get to know you. Trust me. Even if you

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only think you got three hours of work every week, there are so many other

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things. It's so it's so fun to be like, oh, maybe my VA could do

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this. Hey, can we do something like that that these people are doing over here?

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Yeah. And you're moving forward together. You get to know each

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other better. You get to grow with each other. Your

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income will increase as long as you

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are going and doing income generating activities. This does not allow you to

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go sit on your butt now, twiddle your thumbs, right? Don't organize your

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closet, go get some clients. And then you can keep them and

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maintain them. So a lot of my clients have said like, wow,

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I've gotten more done in the past six weeks than I have in the past

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six months. Or wow, just because this

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one thing was cleaned up and and started to run, I got three new

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clients this week. So those are kind of the type of results

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people can get. But I think ten hours a week. Because you

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also want to maintain and retain your VA.

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Because training someone new, people

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ghost you, it's not the type of experience you want. So some people have said

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to me, oh, Diana, I've had a terrible experience. But

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it it was maybe because you were only throwing them a couple hours of work,

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and then they got another client that was bigger. Right? And so

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there's a chance you can lose a VA. So we like to start with 10,

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and then as your business grows, if you jump to twenty, thirty, whatever it

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may be, but ten's a great place to start. My two VAs are at

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twenty hours each for my business. So the other

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thing I mean, you know, one of the questions that I think about a

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lot when I'm looking at, you know, services, it

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is I like to know that there are other

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people. You know? So, like, when when when my kids were in day care,

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I had a wonderful lady, you know, who was not, like, at a day care

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center. Mhmm. But, you know, I would show up and she goes, I'm

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sick today. Sorry. I'm like, what?

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I still have to go to work. I still have this kid. This doesn't work

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for me. And so one of the things that I like that you're saying

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is, you know, you've got you know, when you've got ten

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hours, right, you've got a fair amount, you you know, some flexibility.

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But also because you're the conduit,

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I can you know, as a client, I can come to you and say, I'm

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not sure this is working for me. Help me. Is it me? Is it the

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VA? Is it not a good match? But, you know, if that

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VA were to get sick or something should happen, I'm not

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gonna be left high and dry with somebody that doesn't know the kind of systems

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and stuff that I have. So talk about that a little bit if you would.

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Yeah. You've you've raised two really good points.

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You know, the the one side about someone your VA getting

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sick or something happening. You know, we had someone had to one of our VAs

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had to go in for emergency surgery, and she didn't see it coming.

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And all of a sudden she's not able to work for three months three weeks.

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And so what we are able to do because I have a team of virtual

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assistants Mhmm. And I know the client and I

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have we have tracked what the VA has been working on and

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where they're at in all their projects because they update everything. We

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were easily able to say, based on the goals you have right

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now, client a, here's another fit

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for you to pass the time, you know, while she's recovering.

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So you have that ability to tap into our our group of

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of VAs if, yeah, if your VA is sick or whatever it may

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be. The other thing is maybe something happens and

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you need a specialist. So we hire general virtual assistants

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because we find entrepreneurs need a wide variety of tasks.

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Social media content creation, video audio editing, graphic

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design, PowerPoint creation, and it the list goes

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like on and on and on. But the sometimes a

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specialist item comes up and one of our V's maybe has that

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experience. So one of our, one of our clients, she's

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like, I'm supposed to be on a on a summit today and I have

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a lead magnet, But for some reason,

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my my sign up page is is not working. It's broken.

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And she's like, I go on live in two hours, and I don't think my

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VA knows how to do this. So I went into my group of VAs,

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and I said what was happening in the platform, and someone said, sounds

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like there's some back end coding that needs to be done. I think I can

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do it. Went in about fifteen minutes later. It's all fixed. It's

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up and running. And so that's also the joy of

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it, is the ability to tap in to have someone else do

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something that's very specific and necessary. Or even,

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we're starting on this platform. Do you have anyone that knows that

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platform? Oh, yeah. We do. Or, we had someone

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wanting to publish a book, so I I had their VA sit with

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my VA. We first created a few, like, training videos for them,

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but they sat together so my VA could walk her

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through to make sure that everything was happening properly

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before she hit pay, publish up on Amazon.

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Right? So tapping into that is amazing. The other thing

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that, that you said that I think sounds wonderful

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is that if I were to get a VA and

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my business grows, and then I need another VA,

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they could be simpatico. They would be familiar with the

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same kinds of systems and formats and stuff. And so it would be

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a seamless way to grow as opposed to taking somebody who

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has this school of thought and works this way and trying to put somebody

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that's got this and works a different way. Yeah. So

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with a lot of our clients, when they come on board, we talk about

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where their business is going, what their needs are, because even

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something as simple as social media content creation,

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scheduling, and management is a whole system, which

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could be your ten hours. Right? So they'll talk through things with me, and I'll

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say, yeah. Sounds like ten hours is good good place for you. Or sounds like

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in a couple months, you're gonna need twenty. And so what we make sure first

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is, does that VA we're matching you with have availability to grow

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with you? Or are you maybe thinking about

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having two different VA? So we have a few that have a two different, we

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have some that have twenty or thirty hours with with one specific

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VA. You'd also brought up a point

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around kind of like I'm there, almost like a

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mediator between. And it's funny because when we started this, I

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thought, oh, I'm gonna have to really help the virtual

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assistant. Right? I'm gonna make sure that they're they're doing their

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job right and that they have the training they need. But actually,

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it was really funny because I was noticing the clients needed a lot of

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support. So why why isn't my VA doing

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this task right? And I said, do I have permission to go and look at

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your instructions? Oh, yes. Go ahead. And I'd go in and I'd go,

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I'm a native English speaker. I don't understand what you're asking.

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Or you're so high level, there's there's no

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detail in there. So being able for me to support

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the the client. And then sometimes there's miscommunication.

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So maybe the VA was supposed to be on on the call at a certain

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time, but the invite didn't go through and, you know,

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something happened. And then the the client's like, where's my VA? And the

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VA is like, I never got I never got an invite. And then I can

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be there to kind of support both sides. Because really at the end of the

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day, as an entrepreneur, you want to have a

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good employee or a good VA that works with you and be able

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to have a nice relationship that lasts a

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long time. Because it saves you a ton of money when you can just work

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with one person, have them grow with you. I have to tell you

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that delegation I I jokingly did a post that

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said, using chat GPT made me a better

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delegator because I put things in the

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chat GPT and it spits stuff out. And I'm like, why is it

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saying this? I thought I was really clear. Do you know? And I've had

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the same experience with clients where we're working on delegation.

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I know what it is that they're trying to do. They tell me and I'm

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like, I didn't get it. I mean, I know what you're telling me and I

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didn't get it. So this no wonder you're not getting the results from your

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team that that you think you should be getting. So Yeah. Yeah.

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Before we run out of time Yeah. I have two things that I wanna make

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sure that we cover. Is there anything else that you wanna tell us that

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I didn't ask you about or or didn't come out? Because I wanna make sure

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we get the best of you. Yeah. Well, I'd love to

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go through some myths that people are

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believing. Absolutely. That, and

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then I obviously, I wanna share a gift with your

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with your people. Yes. So, yeah, those are a couple

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things that that Let's do it then. Okay. So

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here are the myths that I've been seeing. There's there's just three of

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them. There are more, but here are the kind of the three main ones.

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So we, we touched on a little bit, but it's expensive to

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have a VA. So the truth is around

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this, that when you have a VA from The Philippines, you're looking at,

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you know, half of what you would pay for someone in Canada, The US or

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another country. Also, when you can delegate,

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you don't have to hire an expensive employee. You don't have to rent an

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office. You don't have to provide computers and all these

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sort of things. Really the future of business is leveraging

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the skills of virtual assistants. And then

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you don't even have to overpay by hiring someone local. So

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$30.50 an hour, maybe. And the thing is,

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well, people say, why The Philippines? And I've picked one country. I'm like, there's

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lots of countries with great people that work. But The

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Philippines is great because they're just as competent as

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someone local. They're probably more excited, more passionate,

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maybe more thankful for the money is what I found.

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And it can be, you can get more

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hours for the same amount of money. Right? So

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you can, rather than a couple hours here, you could get your, your

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ten hours. So that's the first one. It's

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expensive. And, and I ask people too

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sometimes, how expensive is it for you to not have the

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time to follow-up with your leads? What is the

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revenue that you're letting slip through your fingers because you just don't

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have the time? And I get it. Totally get it. The second

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is they'll say, I don't have enough time. I don't have enough to

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delegate. The truth is you actually have lots. And I'm gonna give I'm

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gonna give your people a few activities to do. I've mentioned a few things already,

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but if you take maybe ten minutes, put a timer on a clock,

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write all the things down that you haven't

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gotten to. Do a brain dump. Okay? So that's the first activity. You're

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gonna see opportunity for things that maybe you're not getting to because you don't know

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how to do it, you don't wanna do it, or it just takes a lot

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of time. Right? So you're gonna pass those those off.

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Also, another activity over the week, so maybe over the next week,

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write down everything that you're doing.

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Write down everything that you're doing. And then you can look at it and say,

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I can delegate that. I wanna delegate that. I have to do a few more

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things to be able to delegate that. And then the last thing is I do

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have a list of 229 tasks, and this is

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not exhaustive because I put it together about a year ago. But

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I don't wanna go higher because I think it freaks people out. But

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this is how you're gonna be able to get those ten hours a week back.

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Right? There's full systems that you can delegate. Social

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media management, content, social media content

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creation, content repurposing. Right?

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So taking a video, putting it up on YouTube, pulling

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the audio, putting it on your podcast, pulling the words in a

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transcript, making a blog, then promoting that on your

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social, then putting that into your newsletter. I've got that

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as a full system. You don't even have to write that up

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yourself. So there's so many things that you can do, and that task

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of 229, that list of

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229 tasks, I'm actually gonna share with with

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your audience, just to kind of get the balls rolling

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about what's going on. Yeah. Yeah. And the the

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last thing is people will say I'm just too busy to train a

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VA. And it you're probably busy. Yes. But you don't

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have to go through a full training. So the kind of idea of corporate, you

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go in for a couple of weeks, then you get trained, and then you're working.

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No. We're gonna train very simply by it's a one,

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two, three method that I teach all my VAs and my clients. So first,

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you're gonna have you're gonna talk through on video, just Zoom

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screen record, Loom screen record, talk through the steps

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that you do and the reasons behind it. Then share that with

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your VA and have them document the process. So all

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my VAs have been trained in how to properly document processes

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to create your SOPs, your standard operating procedures for you.

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And then they do the task. Right? So they've

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trained themselves. They've created your SOP, and now they're doing the task. And what did

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you do? Recorded a five minute video. Yeah. That's

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really the way to go. Or you can just use my systems and

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processes. Super simple. But you

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have time because you're not doing a full training. And it's always

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kind of the three to one. If you can train this one thing, they should

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be able to go and do three times the amount of work on that. Yeah.

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Yeah. That's what I call the rule of three. When you put something in

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it, how can you use it three times? Right?

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So so alright. So we could keep talking about this because this

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is this is a fantastic thing. It's something that that if

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you're growing your business, that you need to consider.

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And so, you're gonna give us a gift that

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practical steps that we can go through to to see,

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that we may be VA ready before we think and that it's an affordable

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option. And those are very practical steps, not only not

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only in that process, but also probably to make us

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realize some of the tasks that we have that we don't even realize we're

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doing, which is, you know, like, is is a big one. So that is a

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huge, huge gift.

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The other thing is because we are running out of time,

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I would love, you know, I would love us to keep at this and dig

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deeper. I have my my question, my my surprise question,

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and that was when was the last time you did something new for the first

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time? Oh, the last time I did something oh, in

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New Zealand a few weeks ago, I did zorbing.

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So you get in I know. Google it, z

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o b z o r b, zorb, zorbing in New Zealand

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in Rotorua, and you get in a really big plastic

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ball, and they put water in it, and then

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they push you down a hill. With water in it?

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So the water in it stops you from flipping head over heels

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in the ball. Okay. Kinda friction wise just

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to kinda sit in the water and, and chill as you're well, you

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don't really chill. It's pretty wild. But, yeah, sorbing

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was was the last thing I did that was brand new to me

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or sand dune boarding. There there are

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two things where I think this would have been better in my twenties than my

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forties, but but I did them and they were exciting. And I don't

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know if I'll ever do them again, though. Oh, well, I've seen people in the

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balls, but the idea that you would say upright because there's water in

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it is a lot more appealing to me. But that is fascinating. I'm always

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surprised with what people say because, you know, amazing things

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come out. Alright. Well, we have to we have to bring this to a close.

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So I have to do the commercial part, and then I'm gonna get some words

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of wisdom from you. And and people are gonna wanna

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download your gift. I can't believe how fantastic it is.

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for growth and impact. So I hope you will continue to join me on the

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One Small Change so that we can, you you know, really

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make monumental shifts with just the smallest,

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change in what we're doing. And if you haven't listened to the first episode, you

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should do that. And I've got a couple on another episode up that that I'm

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gonna be doing with just me in it because I like to talk, that

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that's up there on and I'm calling it the quarterly clarity

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check. And so you might wanna see that. So Diane, what are

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your last words of wisdom? Last words of wisdom. You've talked

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about my one gift. There's another gift, the five critical problems to avoid

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when delegating. Make sure you grab that as

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well. But the final thing is just, like, you have

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permission to ask for help. And I'm I'm speaking even

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stronger to my my women out there. You have permission

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to ask for help. We are not meant to be silos. We are not meant

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to be lone wolves. Everyone has the

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ability to get help to hire, get

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help to get your work done, get help to scale your business, get help to

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have the financial success you want and

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the freedom that you want in your business. So get some

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help to make really the business that you want come

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true. And life. It makes you stronger, not weaker.

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Exactly. It's smart. Absolutely. I agree

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with you. Okay, guys, We need to bring this to a close.

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And like I always say, change may

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be simple, but it's not always easy. And it requires courage and

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resilience. And most of all, it requires the willingness

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to step outside your comfort zone and do something different. So hopefully

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you'll continue to join me for the one small change.

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And until next time, stay curious. Thank you so much,

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Diane. Thanks, Yvonne.

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