We get into the bizarre phenomenon of songs that won’t leave your head. From Pump Up the Jam, Electric Avenue, and Buffalo Solider. We explored the strange ways music sticks with us and why certain tunes seem to haunt us for life. We also delved into the emotional triggers behind music. Discussing how certain melodies bring back memories or even offer healing. With plenty of bullshit about ringtones, musical nostalgia. The big question of Why Bob Marley’s songs are perfect for stoners? It’s a fun, musical ride that’ll keep you hooked from when you light down to the roach.

But, as always, we shift gears, landing on the creative process itself. We share thoughts on how music ties into memory. The odd phenomenon of "brain tunnels". And how iconic artists like Billy Joel create magic that leaves a lasting mark on listeners. With the usual bullshit and unfiltered musings, you’re in for another wild ride. So roll one, hit play, and let's groove tonight!

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00:00.00

lostinthegroove

There are moments.

00:00.25

upinsmoke

No, do I look really bad? What's going on?

00:02.00

lostinthegroove

No, you don't look really bad. You look fine.

00:03.94

upinsmoke

Oh, okay.

00:05.35

lostinthegroove

I mean, it's.

00:10.30

lostinthegroove

It's one of those.

00:13.22

lostinthegroove

The light.

00:17.27

lostinthegroove

So it's kind of a. It's kind of a really a thought or a ponder, right?

00:23.83

upinsmoke

Ooh, ponder.

00:24.59

lostinthegroove

Where? OK. Everybody talks about, you know, how things are like real crazy, you know, and like real insane right now, right? But nobody like wants to talk about the fact that like fucking 100 years ago, okay, in New York City, they had fucking horses.

00:47.99

lostinthegroove

All right, shitting everywhere. People lived in disease. All right. There was no like clean water. All right. You just lived in absolute filth. All right. You think like we live like fucking kings and queens compared to those people. I'm just saying.

01:11.76

lostinthegroove

Just saying you know it's like a little bit of a thought there for a sec You know like I hear you the things are crazy, but you don't have no white people We're in the KKK outfits fucking shooting black people all the time no more think so.

01:28.66

upinsmoke

People argue and say that it's still like full-fledged happening I Not like it used to not like it used to but people will argue and say that it's still a thing I told you that when my grandpa was in the Army Navy my grandpa was in the Navy my

01:35.03

lostinthegroove

I don't believe I don't believe that bullshit Nah

01:50.80

upinsmoke

Mom's dad, i he was in a locker room or you know like something when he was in the Navy. And some guy asked him if he wanted to join the KKK and showed him a KKK card. And my grandpa was like, no.

02:14.14

upinsmoke

He was like, yeah, no.

02:15.99

lostinthegroove

it a big

02:17.45

upinsmoke

And he was like, he's like, don't you ever fucking talk to me about any of that shit ever again. And he was like, you ever, you know, be doing stuff like that around here. He's like, we'll kick your ass.

02:28.96

upinsmoke

But he asked him. So it's a real thing. At least it was back then.

02:36.39

lostinthegroove

yeah but you know what it's

02:36.62

upinsmoke

It was.

02:38.62

lostinthegroove

looking at the ability that we have today is astronomic with all of the issues and the problems that we have, we live in a really great time. Look, I am the type of you know future mechanic, future auto technician, that I love old cars. But at the same time, I do realize like all of the things that we have progressed with and gotten so much better with, even within that industry, and like so many other things,

03:15.93

upinsmoke

Hmm.

03:16.76

lostinthegroove

There's a lot of problems agreed. But there's still a lot of great things that are going on.

03:23.91

upinsmoke

Yeah, I think where we went wrong is that we got too many people concentrated in a small area. Um, and that's like where you get like disease and like poverty and different things like that.

03:38.41

upinsmoke

Like if you,

03:38.84

lostinthegroove

Because prices and everything just keep going up.

03:41.42

upinsmoke

If you have a good balance between like resources and the amount of people, then it'll be fine. But if you don't have enough people, you can't get enough resources. But if you have enough people, you got a good balance, you'd be fine. But once our cities started to grow,

04:01.57

upinsmoke

and Become like populated like ah one thing that I always thought was really fascinating was like this documentary that I saw on like Milk and there was this like giant like poisoning that happened and like I think it was like New York City or like some big-ass city or something like back in like the 20s or 40s, I don't know, such a terrible like description of what happened, but it's like I'm generalizing like a million things.

04:21.82

lostinthegroove

ye old days.

04:27.26

upinsmoke

But what happened is like the city was like kind of okay and you know they're like distributing milk and it's like kind of okay. But then once the city like grew like more deeply and they started distributing like more milk out like at a bigger level to more people,

04:45.00

upinsmoke

Um, some type of disease spread and it was like in the milk and it, because there were so many people in such a dense area, it affected so many people that it like killed like a bunch of children.

04:57.55

upinsmoke

And like, I think that like, and but the issue is that there's too many people in this like tight little city and it's been proven many times that it's unhealthy.

04:59.17

lostinthegroove

Do you do you want to sing?

05:08.52

upinsmoke

It's unhealthy for people to live like that, that we should be more spread out.

05:12.45

lostinthegroove

It's funny you mentioned milk, because I found out a weird fact the other day. Do you know that we ah Al Capone Al Capone is one that's responsible for putting expiration dates on milk?

05:25.22

upinsmoke

No, I didn't know, but that's...

05:26.49

lostinthegroove

Is that wild?

05:27.97

upinsmoke

that's good.

05:29.05

lostinthegroove

Yeah, because like there was no expiration date and people were just drinking sour milk ah because they thought it was OK.

05:36.85

upinsmoke

I'm not a big milk drinker. Like, I don't... I don't like milk for the most part, but I put a lot of milk in my coffees and like my lattes.

05:45.92

lostinthegroove

You know what, ah it's interesting because people is particularly in this country don't really understand and how dairy arrives in the grocery store. Because most people think like it's the grocery stores responsibility of getting the dairy into their stores. It's not how it works.

06:04.69

upinsmoke

I don't know, but in Iowa, we have like a local dairy distributor that like all of our milk comes from like seriously, like just a few miles away.

06:16.25

lostinthegroove

Yeah, most places don't have that.

06:18.61

upinsmoke

Yeah. I know that they have one in a few different like cities. Like I've, I've moved to places and been like, you know, like what's your your local milk? We have Anderson Erickson and then like, they make all of the dairy products like in that area, like area. So they make all the cream cheese, they make all the dips, they make string cheese, they make all your cheeses, they make everything like, and they make it all local.

06:48.06

lostinthegroove

It's a Wisconsin's pleasure.

06:48.32

upinsmoke

Um, yeah it's a Iowa thing, but like, yeah, I mean, they'll make everything that you end up buying. That's like dairy, um, yogurts, all of it.

07:00.94

lostinthegroove

the the The wild thing is we live in a country where we can be independent. We have plenty of resources to be able to. Yeah, there are many things that we do need to rely on other other nations and other places.

07:19.16

lostinthegroove

But we have spent so much time on war and propaganda and just pure stupidity that we rely so much on export where there's so much value that exists here in this country.

07:37.14

lostinthegroove

It's like people complain that their groceries are so expensive.

07:37.91

upinsmoke

Yeah.

07:40.88

lostinthegroove

It's because none of this shit is grown here.

07:44.22

upinsmoke

Well, I mean, everything we need will come out of nature. Everything, like our medicines, everything, but we've like chosen to find other ways to source them. But I mean, we have a whole country of land. Like we have tons of available people. Like we do not need things from other places like.

08:07.75

lostinthegroove

And then it gets even more crazier when you find out that we put toxic chemicals in our foods that are banned in over a hundred countries, including Canada. And we feed that shit to kids.

08:26.47

upinsmoke

And I mean, again, a lot of this has to do with like, how many people is it that they're trying to feed? They don't have as many citizens in Canada as we do in America.

08:37.33

lostinthegroove

It's not the point.

08:37.48

upinsmoke

Like, but I'm saying that's why that I think that's why America lets it happen.

08:38.36

lostinthegroove

The point is it's also money. It's also come on. Come on. It's all of.

08:46.04

upinsmoke

Everything's always money. It's always, everything always. I remember one time I ruined an entire podcast by just being like one big dark cloud that was like, it's got the money, like on like everything.

08:57.10

lostinthegroove

Yeah. to But like, it's kind of true, though, it is all kind of but but because the thing about if they can make Doritos bright, you know, and shiny, they're going to make it fucking bright and shiny.

08:58.59

upinsmoke

I've done that.

09:02.76

upinsmoke

It is.

09:10.51

lostinthegroove

All right. They're going to make Pringles, you know, have that crisp.

09:11.37

upinsmoke

Colorful.

09:15.28

lostinthegroove

They're going to do whatever they can to throw whatever chemicals and things on there to make it as perfect as possible as a product. All I'm saying is. We need to take responsibility, which is the fact is we're gonna snack and we're gonna nosh. That's fine, okay? But not accepting the fact that we eat unhealthy food. The fact that we don't accept the fact that we live in a divided society. I don't give a shit who you are or what you are. Are you a nice person? Can we talk? Can we have a good conversation?

09:52.33

lostinthegroove

like

09:53.93

upinsmoke

I think a part of the issue with our food is that we're not eating communally anymore.

09:54.14

lostinthegroove

that's it

09:59.36

upinsmoke

We're all kind of like eating individually alone at different times.

09:59.44

lostinthegroove

now

10:03.68

upinsmoke

Like it's like I get off work and I need some food. I am on a lunch break that doesn't line up with other people. I need some alone time. ah meeting alone like and I think that human beings are meant to eat communally and that it is actually more affordable for us to eat communally to make a big meal of food that we all put a few dollars in on and then I mean we used to do that all the time in college like or after college all the time me and my friends would make like a giant brunch together and we'd all just like throw in five dollars

10:40.52

upinsmoke

And it was so much more affordable than like the way that it is like when I go to the grocery store um and ah and how much food I go through. I mean, I think we talked about food waste on the last the you know last time that we filmed where it's like, I don't need as much food as the portions that they sell it in because I'm just one person and it'll go bad, but they don't sell smaller portions.

11:06.05

upinsmoke

And then like I also feel like something's happening where food is going bad faster because I think that the big farms are not making less food. I think because people are buying less groceries because people are cutting corners like money-wise with their food.

11:26.37

lostinthegroove

Yeah, and these these large farms, like just to put it in numbers so people can have an understanding, they can pursue produce tons of cucumbers, tons.

11:26.47

upinsmoke

and so

11:36.31

upinsmoke

So I think, I don't think that they've cut down on how much they're producing. I think that what they're doing is they're so storing it and they're putting it out like slowly.

11:46.93

lostinthegroove

It's called for it's called freeze dry, but they do this all the fucking time when you buy certain

11:51.72

upinsmoke

It's not fresh anymore.

11:53.17

lostinthegroove

Yeah, like they it's called freeze dryer. Basically, like they put this in like a refrigeration process that like halts. It's like life expectancy. And then when they're ready to sell it, they pull it out, which can sometimes be up to nine months.

12:07.02

lostinthegroove

That means you buy that fucking apple. It's nine months old. So

12:11.38

upinsmoke

It's not, it's not doing anything for you. There are like these like cults, uh, in the seventies, there was one that was like really obsessed with like nutrition. And they thought that you had to eat the fruit or vegetable within a certain time period of when it detaches from the root. and They truly believed that it loses nutrients within the amount of minutes that it has been separated from its nutrient source. I mean, just fucking can imagine, like that's crazy. Now, on the other hand, I did read way back that, like,

12:52.40

upinsmoke

Broccoli, when it's cut like from the source, if it's flat, flash frozen like right away, it'll freeze all the nutrients into it. But if it's cut and it's just sold, just cut, it loses its nutrients.

13:09.90

upinsmoke

But this like flash freezing, like if they freeze it like right away, then it'll like trap all the nutrients and it is something that's kind of neat. But I don't think that's what's happening, but it could be cool if they did it that way. But most frozen vegetables that are like in bags, they freeze immediately. And so they actually have some good type of nutrients in them. But unfortunately what ends up happening is that people microwave those, the frozen vegetables often and it loses all the nutrients that was frozen into it.

13:41.77

upinsmoke

I know some things.

13:43.50

lostinthegroove

14:01.85

lostinthegroove

1947 was the year of the industrial farms. It was the year of pretty much the industrialized consumer products, food products that we have today. And it just continued from there. What I'm trying to get at is this. You run into a point where if you remove nature from farming, which is predominantly what they've done,

14:30.40

lostinthegroove

You run out of topsoil. You create runoff that is toxic, that goes through the water supply, which basically poisons the land. It's like it takes time and effort to make a farm that is a part of nature, that doesn't defy nature in any shape or form. It's not easy. It doesn't grow as well.

14:58.60

lostinthegroove

but

15:01.39

lostinthegroove

I don't, I don't know.

15:03.00

upinsmoke

My dad pointed out that the government likes to get rid of farmland because they like tax money. So like they want buildings and mostly light homes and like dwellings and businesses to be built everywhere because then they can charge tax on all of those little square boxes that they've built on top of nature and yeah so like basically this greed for this greed for tax money is what's driven all of the the greenery to be built on top of

15:35.48

lostinthegroove

They make more money off of tax than anything else. Correct. I mean, look at Puerto Rico. Jeez.

15:53.96

upinsmoke

I mean nature is resilient though like if we if we give up nature will grow over all that concrete.

16:04.30

lostinthegroove

Look at Detroit. I mean, it's a great it's a great example of it. We're literally nature has come to its power and it just swallows up a whole house doesn't care.

16:17.58

lostinthegroove

Like, hey, you know, you're, you decided to leave. That's your choice. Well, we're, but we're gonna park ourselves here.

16:25.97

upinsmoke

It can move pretty fast.

16:26.08

lostinthegroove

It's

16:29.07

upinsmoke

It can. It's pretty cool.

16:30.01

lostinthegroove

Really quickly and I mean look at like even with the recent hurricane that hit Hurricane, um I think Helene or Helene Wild I mean, I'm literally like here in South Florida and I mean we had a little trickle little tinkle um But I mean it it got hit real bad and like, you know the deep south so I

16:55.86

upinsmoke

Well, um yeah, down by my sister, like the um the water came up to the pier. So like the sand is like even with the with the actual like bridge, which is like not good at all. And they have to like pull a lot of sand out of like the first street and bring it back. For some reason, the tide like completely changed. like All the sand.

17:25.15

upinsmoke

like traveled like up and there's almost just like a cliff now of just like sand like there's no like beach that like travels out it's really wild it makes me because I mean like different beaches could not this one no sometimes she gets like flooding or she gets like bad like wind damage you know like stuff flying in the air like smacking into things

17:38.86

lostinthegroove

But her like her property wasn't damaged or anything like.

17:50.76

lostinthegroove

Does she have a hurricane impact windows?

17:53.82

upinsmoke

She's got, uh, like the, like covers, you know, they're like, I have no idea.

17:57.98

lostinthegroove

Now she's got to get hurricane impact windows.

18:01.13

upinsmoke

they They put things over the windows.

18:04.18

lostinthegroove

Now.

18:04.56

upinsmoke

They let, they like drop down and cover the window.

18:06.31

lostinthegroove

now

18:08.02

upinsmoke

Maybe she does. I don't know. I don't live in her house.

18:09.63

lostinthegroove

I mean, I would hope so because like that's honestly the move. Like that's how a lot of people have been able to save their homes here. I mean, your parents.

18:17.52

upinsmoke

It does not make me want to like live down there. Yeah, my parents trailer does great.

18:20.19

lostinthegroove

Your parent.

18:23.08

upinsmoke

She's my mom.

18:23.12

lostinthegroove

Didn't get hit. Everything was fine.

18:25.57

upinsmoke

Everything's fine. My mom's prayed over that trailer so hard.

18:29.03

lostinthegroove

I mean, does it was anybody else's trailer like hurt or anything during the storm?

18:29.25

upinsmoke

Like

18:33.19

upinsmoke

Other people's trailer got destroyed on the last couple hurricanes, like that.

18:37.79

lostinthegroove

But not this one.

18:38.86

upinsmoke

I don't know. I didn't ask her if anybody's got destroyed this hurricane, but, um, I know that the, the water washed up into the restaurant down there.

18:50.15

upinsmoke

Sharkies. And so the restaurants all flooded. They said it'll be closed for a long time. which is unfortunate. Um, but that restaurant makes a lot of money.

18:58.45

lostinthegroove

Yeah.

19:00.18

upinsmoke

So I think they'll be quite all right. But yeah, I mean, that's like the best thing to do down there is the beach. So my parents will be down there again soon. So we'll see, you know, what they have to say about it, but it is probably pretty crazy to see things in that kind of state.

19:16.08

lostinthegroove

Yeah, i you know what, it's it's a wild thing because you realize that it's not.

19:25.93

lostinthegroove

It's not that nature doesn't care about you. Nature doesn't give a shit about you. It really does it.

19:31.58

upinsmoke

Oh, no.

19:32.76

lostinthegroove

It's like I'm gonna make a tornado and I'm just gonna plow down. I'm gonna make a hurricane that's just gonna wash water. Like, there is no mercy.

19:43.90

upinsmoke

Yeah, nature will set you straight. Yeah, well, it'll like humble you.

19:53.42

upinsmoke

Yeah, you think you're like all powerful.

19:53.61

lostinthegroove

Literally.

19:55.42

upinsmoke

It's like, yeah.

19:56.77

lostinthegroove

No.

19:58.27

upinsmoke

Yeah, I mean, I kind of feel that way about the pandemic. I feel like it was like a act of nature. is that There's a disaster. so

20:08.14

lostinthegroove

Well, look, they I mean, they played around with gain of function research. And everybody knew how dangerous it was. And it gave no success that there was no reason to do it except being just ah crazy scientist that has a crazy idea that you want to explore that is extremely dangerous but the reality is they blew it out of the fucking portion like the whole scenario like they blew up the numbers they covered up a lot of stuff they lied like I I don't have any words I literally have no words because like I'm the type of person like I've said this before like I came out of that with no living father

20:53.83

lostinthegroove

and they covered all that crap up.

20:53.96

upinsmoke

Yeah.

20:56.27

lostinthegroove

they you know It's horrendous.

20:56.91

upinsmoke

It's, yeah, it's evil, complete evil.

21:01.25

lostinthegroove

Yeah.

21:03.47

upinsmoke

I, I think that if, no, there were, I was going to say something.

21:05.42

lostinthegroove

are we taking it Are we taking a dark turn? Yeah.

21:09.83

upinsmoke

I, I was going to mispronounce Camilla's name for fun. Um,

21:16.28

lostinthegroove

That makes me think of Cruella de Vil for some strange reason, and right?

21:19.27

upinsmoke

I like saying, I like saying Camilla. Um,

21:23.91

lostinthegroove

Camilla Deville, Camilla, Camilla.

21:27.25

upinsmoke

And then I'm just gonna say I will never like the president no matter who they are.

21:27.53

lostinthegroove

Oh, I like that. Yeah, that has a good ring.

21:34.24

upinsmoke

um No matter what, I'm never gonna like the president. um I did like Barack Obama, but that's back in my naive days.

21:44.71

lostinthegroove

think about Think about them as like the part-time employee at Denny's. The part-time employee at Denny's is there for four years, sometimes eight.

21:55.02

upinsmoke

Okay.

21:57.86

lostinthegroove

The way to think about it is like this. The system has been around for 260 odd years, right? Something a little less. I don't remember the numbers, but take that into perspective.

22:09.38

upinsmoke

You're like, how much of a dent can it make?

22:09.37

lostinthegroove

it has

22:11.34

upinsmoke

Is that what you're trying to say?

22:11.82

lostinthegroove

right because that system has survived assassinations 48 presidents like the next person that goes in there is just going to make a small dent on a 200 year old system using it can't make a big debt right because you have

22:13.73

upinsmoke

It can, it can.

22:25.83

upinsmoke

Okay. Okay. Sure. But it it may, it can make a big difference. Okay. So here.

22:33.76

lostinthegroove

just like not even trying to get political for a second, but just gonna throw this out there. You have, particularly with Trump's side, you get a person like RFK, who actually has been able to be a person that has done change as a lawyer and has been successful, that could possibly help our food crisis that we have here in the States. That's one. Two, you get a person like Tulsi Gabbard,

23:02.24

lostinthegroove

which has a military background. She understands what suffering is and can offer tremendous potential for the education system, which I'm going to be real honest right now.

23:07.56

upinsmoke

Thank you.

23:14.67

lostinthegroove

Sucks balls.

23:17.13

upinsmoke

Yeah. and Well, I mean, people are killing each other.

23:17.59

lostinthegroove

Sucks balls. It's terrible.

23:22.84

upinsmoke

That's, that's part of the education system.

23:25.06

lostinthegroove

somebody like Tulsi Gabbard coming in and stepping in is just like so that's what I'm saying is like you you want to look at the bigger picture it's like his team gives you two people that could make two possible dents on the 200 year old system they could be able to start they could be able to start that change that we may experience in the next 15 years we don't know but yeah deeper way of thinking about it

23:40.79

upinsmoke

I understand you're passionate.

23:49.31

upinsmoke

So something, something should be done about education. It's a shit show mess.

24:00.40

upinsmoke

What I was saying about Camilla is that I never, I never liked the president.

24:05.54

lostinthegroove

Camilla de Ville. Yeah.

24:10.01

upinsmoke

you know, no matter who they are. I sometimes kind of liked Obama, but he's still the president. So he's like the man. I don't like the man and the man is the government. And so I just, I'm concerned that if I say that I don't like the president, if she wins, if people are just going to just call me racist,

24:38.53

upinsmoke

And it's like, no, I don't like the president. Like, and I feel like that's what I'm, I feel like it shouldn't, but I feel like because I'm a white person and the president, and I feel like if I were a white man, it might be like even more like, you know, but it's like, that's not why I don't like her.

24:45.30

lostinthegroove

I don't I don't know where race is. See, I'm like, why is race even a conversation? Right.

25:03.25

upinsmoke

Like you could have put anyone there, like, but I feel like I can't openly hate the president as much as I usually do.

25:07.95

lostinthegroove

Unless she unless she has a teleprompter, unless she has a teleprompter, she can't properly speak. That's fact.

25:16.92

upinsmoke

I mean, that's how the last, that's how the Democratic president was. He can't talk at all. He just read.

25:22.94

lostinthegroove

Just, you know.

25:25.48

upinsmoke

She's got a thing in her ear. It's no joke. It's there.

25:33.20

lostinthegroove

a

25:35.43

upinsmoke

It's there 24 seven.

25:37.18

lostinthegroove

It has to be.

25:38.41

upinsmoke

She's a little puppet.

25:41.13

lostinthegroove

You know, like, the way I look at it is like this. It's forget about look, I'm libertarian. All right. I'm libertarian hardcore. Okay. I'm a conservative. Well, left wing conservative gay man. All right. And I'm telling you that there's more potential on that team. Like I just mentioned you got RFK and you got Tulsa Gamber. Let's not forget you also got JD Vance.

26:08.90

upinsmoke

It's just not appropriate for anyone to assume that my hate for one candidate means my support for another.

26:19.61

lostinthegroove

I just can't stand the last four years of this country, like, to be honest. And it's like you're getting the same for the next four years. And I personally don't see any benefit or potential.

26:33.65

lostinthegroove

So I'm like, i'm I'm on your team over here.

26:34.10

upinsmoke

Oh.

26:38.07

lostinthegroove

I'm like, I don't hate the president. It's like we didn't like the past four years.

26:44.18

upinsmoke

And it'll be kind of, yeah.

26:44.31

lostinthegroove

We're not going to like them. You're not going to like the next four years either.

26:48.70

upinsmoke

So on a whole other note, there is a ice cream shop, locally owned small business ice cream shop.

26:52.11

lostinthegroove

It has marshmallows.

27:00.89

upinsmoke

Um, and they made a Halloween themed ice cream. Guess what it is.

27:11.39

lostinthegroove

Definitely has has marshmallows.

27:12.39

upinsmoke

and That would be cool, right? This is a caramel apple.

27:15.59

lostinthegroove

What?

27:17.52

upinsmoke

Yeah, caramel apple ice cream.

27:18.81

lostinthegroove

So this caramel. Wait, okay, so are there Apple pieces or caramel pieces?

27:21.17

upinsmoke

Yeah.

27:24.91

upinsmoke

Caramel pieces here. I'm going to send it so you can

27:27.29

lostinthegroove

Okay, so how they exactly do they get the Apple? Now I'm curious, all right.

27:31.23

upinsmoke

Well, I mean, I want to know, but here you just look at their Facebook page real quick so that you can get like a visual. But here, I'll look at the visual too. And then, I mean, what it says is just fall is here.

27:42.52

lostinthegroove

Wow, what a side note.

27:44.94

upinsmoke

um And so are our fall flavors. So there's more than one fall flavor.

27:48.59

lostinthegroove

Oh my god, it's green!

27:50.90

upinsmoke

Yes, it's caramel dappled.

27:50.90

lostinthegroove

It's freaking green!

27:53.57

upinsmoke

This is like this place is called the black cat.

27:53.85

lostinthegroove

Wow!

27:57.45

upinsmoke

um And they're doing Halloween flavors. I don't see oatmeal.

28:02.57

lostinthegroove

28:13.59

lostinthegroove

Oh my goodness.

28:14.84

upinsmoke

Oh, they have a butter beer.

28:15.99

lostinthegroove

Spamoni. They have a butterbeer flavor. That's wild. Oh, that's wild. Oh, that looks good. Oh my God.

28:23.46

upinsmoke

Killer Bee.

28:25.67

lostinthegroove

Killer Bee.

28:27.14

upinsmoke

Apple cider donut.

28:30.06

lostinthegroove

I okay, I have a little bit of a grudge with apple cider donuts for simple reason, because a lot of the times apple cider. i yeah I don't know it just I had an apple cider fritter. And that was the best shit I've ever had in my life. I'm not gonna lie like at that. Thinking about it. Oh my god, and it had was warm. And have the sauce on there. And I have whipped cream.

29:00.34

upinsmoke

Pumpkin spice latte.

29:02.22

lostinthegroove

i No, I can't because I I watched that video All right with the lady that turns into a pumpkin This is my my embarrassing moment I watched that video like it was a cartoon of this like lady that she like turned into a pumpkin actually getting a pumpkin um pumpkin latte you can find this on YouTube and It scarred me and I'm like, I can't I can't order watch

29:03.90

upinsmoke

I.

29:16.45

upinsmoke

Why? Because she like. Dude, that would be good for your budget, like.

29:29.07

lostinthegroove

No, no, no, no, no. I just think of like her carving the knife to open up like a hole so she can pour the drink. It was weird.

29:38.51

upinsmoke

like

29:38.71

lostinthegroove

Okay. It was a weird video.

29:39.50

upinsmoke

Oh, no, you saw she carved a hole in herself as a pumpkin.

29:40.21

lostinthegroove

Yes.

29:44.81

lostinthegroove

Yeah. Cause they turned into, yeah. Cause he turned into like a pumpkin.

29:47.40

upinsmoke

So she had no lips, so she like needs to like wow.

29:50.84

lostinthegroove

Yeah. So she like, yeah.

29:53.18

upinsmoke

It reminds me of like, you know, like a drug commercial like.

29:56.48

lostinthegroove

Yeah. Oh my God.

29:58.79

upinsmoke

Yeah, and also it reminds me of like when everybody became a vegetarian there for like ah a a while, there was like a video that was going around.

29:59.52

lostinthegroove

the

30:07.24

lostinthegroove

Peter it was from Peter.

30:09.01

upinsmoke

I don't know, but everybody like hated it.

30:10.11

lostinthegroove

No, it was from Pete. It was it was definitely from Peter. I promise you that You know, I

30:13.43

upinsmoke

People watch this video and everybody became a vegetarian for a minute. It was crazy. Everybody was so bothered by what they saw.

30:21.61

lostinthegroove

my My message to vegans is this, okay? Minus people that have that or have allergens towards mates.

30:32.35

upinsmoke

I didn't watch it. I was like, I'm not going to ruin it.

30:33.39

lostinthegroove

You wanna be a vegan? You wanna be a vegan? Tell you what, if you really love the animals, you really care about them, support your local farmers that also have slaughterhouses. Because those people actually fucking taking care of those cows and care for them. And I promise you, that's the best place you'll be able to get meat. They care for those animals.

30:55.69

upinsmoke

Yeah, locals.

30:57.28

lostinthegroove

Yeah, it's like, look, Cows have evolved to rely on humans. The simple fact is that cows overpopulate. The simple fact is that there are farmers that really take care of their cows, and they do slaughter them, but they make sure that they're slaughtered humanely.

31:16.10

upinsmoke

For the most part, yeah. I would say like, so yeah, they have a ah whole different way of living, but it's like, there's a lot of it out here. um Like I said, we have 4H, which is really cool.

31:29.74

upinsmoke

It's a big, big thing.

31:30.15

lostinthegroove

But. I don't know, I like um I like my meat. You know.

31:38.36

upinsmoke

I can't stop, yeah, ah specifically breakfast um and pepperoni pizza, salamis. Yes, I do. um

31:48.54

lostinthegroove

Yeah, pepperoni pizza, especially when you get pepperoni pizza from the right place.

31:53.22

upinsmoke

I crave savory a lot, and meat fits that category, but often my body wants something savory.

31:53.77

lostinthegroove

Oh.

32:01.21

upinsmoke

um And I think like I often really want like warm food, um but I don't know. I like a good beef jerky.

32:12.09

lostinthegroove

I saw those sausages ah in Target the other day. You know what I'm talking about? The Bavarian. ah Yeah, the sausage links. And I was just like, I was so tempted.

32:22.90

upinsmoke

susan young

32:26.08

lostinthegroove

And ah but they're so expensive. They're like literally but like six dollars.

32:27.77

upinsmoke

yum everything is everything dude i went to go look at stuff like i was like looking at like coats and sweaters and shit and everything i was like fucking like two to three hundred dollars and i was like oh my god i went to go look for chairs and everything was like three to five hundred dollars i was like no like i will be going to the thrift shop and getting some old dead lady's chair.

32:54.54

lostinthegroove

Yeah, like she probably died in it, but like it doesn't matter.

32:54.58

upinsmoke

like this again And I guess I would get an old lady's coat too, like God.

33:01.86

lostinthegroove

Some of those old lady coats are fucking bitching. Like, I mean, they are. They're like, you know, just the feathers, you know, and just the ambiance.

33:13.01

lostinthegroove

It's just, girl, you.

33:14.33

upinsmoke

If you could buy an old lady's groceries, I'd be stuck with that too.

33:19.43

lostinthegroove

Shit. Ain't that the truth?

33:25.47

lostinthegroove

a So, we got an old lady's coat. I'm happy for you. How was it?

33:31.68

upinsmoke

I'm not getting the old lady's coat.

33:33.19

lostinthegroove

Oh, shit.

33:34.34

upinsmoke

I'm not getting the old lady's chair.

33:34.49

lostinthegroove

but you are are they just saying on to I had the same bed for the past five years.

33:37.22

upinsmoke

I'm not getting any of it.

33:41.26

upinsmoke

I'm just not going to have a chair or a coat.

33:50.10

upinsmoke

Shit, you need a new bed. Get it when you move though.

33:52.97

lostinthegroove

No. Uh-uh.

33:56.18

upinsmoke

Don't cause like,

33:56.20

lostinthegroove

oh No, I like my bed frame like that's the thing is like I love my bed frame. I love my like 13 years Yeah, I think it's like every oh my god, I think it's every 13 years I

34:00.28

upinsmoke

Oh, your frame? That's fine. Your mattress you need to replace over like three years, I think. Yeah. Well, what does the internet say? and What the fuck? How often should you replace your mattress?

34:17.76

upinsmoke

So maybe it's just like you're like, like your bedsheets, you should like legit throw them away.

34:26.69

lostinthegroove

I do. I definitely throw away bet sheets. I 100% throw bet sheets away.

34:41.75

upinsmoke

Okay. Every seven to 10 years, you should throw your mattress away. It's better than 15. Like I was closer every seven to 10 years.

34:52.15

lostinthegroove

I'm gonna like push it to 10 and a half.

34:55.27

upinsmoke

Sure.

34:56.04

lostinthegroove

Yeah, you know, I'm just like that type of person. I'm like, it's like my inner Jew is calling to me and it's like saying, save me your money, save your money, save your money, because I don't have any money, but like, it's just like, save your money, save your money, save your money.

35:03.75

upinsmoke

Save your money. Stretch it out.

35:12.69

lostinthegroove

And, uh, and the money I don't have save your money.

35:12.82

upinsmoke

The money that you don't have, save it.

35:16.26

lostinthegroove

save So I'm

35:18.03

upinsmoke

Yeah, it would just go on ah on a credit card if I if i did it anyways. Well, maybe it's your pillow.

35:23.75

lostinthegroove

very,

35:25.18

upinsmoke

How often are you supposed to throw your pillow away?

35:28.17

lostinthegroove

I like my pillows.

35:29.94

upinsmoke

I know.

35:33.32

upinsmoke

How often?

35:34.84

lostinthegroove

Oh, my God, this is this is like. I I'm not going to lie, I do have a problem of throwing things away, particularly when it comes to certain things that are mine.

35:48.36

lostinthegroove

But.

35:50.13

upinsmoke

You'll never believe it.

35:53.46

lostinthegroove

Two years.

35:54.98

upinsmoke

Every one to two years, in general, you should replace your pillow every one to two years. However, lifespan of a pillow depends on the type of pillow and how well you care for it. Here are some signs that it might be time to replace your pillow.

36:14.10

lostinthegroove

ah Holy shit, here it comes. Buckle up, motherfuckers.

36:18.03

upinsmoke

It's lost its shape.

36:19.97

lostinthegroove

Whoa.

36:20.29

upinsmoke

Pillows can lose their shape over time, especially down. Down alternative or shredded foam pillows.

36:28.42

lostinthegroove

You know what she's talking about?

36:31.62

upinsmoke

It's not fresh. Even after washing, your pillow doesn't seem as fresh as it once was. It's trapping dust. A cloud of dust puffs out when you flip your pillow.

36:51.49

lostinthegroove

Whoa. I gotta rethink my life right now, you know, for a sec. Like, you gotta, like, swallow in the truth and be able to accept it and be like... Damn. Am I really that dirty?

37:07.25

upinsmoke

It says your pillow's causing acne or neck pain. You're waking up with acne or a crick in your neck. I feel like it says that you should wash your pillow in the laundry every three to six months, but every two years it's suggested to get a pillow.

37:31.22

upinsmoke

No, I think I had heard,

37:32.21

lostinthegroove

That's a bit excessive, don't you think?

37:33.97

upinsmoke

i I had heard every three years to replace your pillow because like, there really is quite a lot of sweat that comes out of the human head and neck.

37:47.71

upinsmoke

So I do think that after three years, it's not a horrible idea to look for a new pillow.

37:54.59

lostinthegroove

No, no, it's not. It's not a horror. It just makes you now start to think.

37:58.07

upinsmoke

But one year, every one year is maybe a lot, but I think putting it through the wash, but you take a big, you take a big chance putting your pillow through the wash now.

38:01.61

lostinthegroove

she

38:08.90

upinsmoke

If you replace your pillowcase like consistently, I think you maybe don't have to put your pillow through the wash as much, you know? You know what I mean?

38:19.57

upinsmoke

Like if you really replace that a lot, but like

38:21.13

lostinthegroove

I'm like really thinking about holy shit. Like this is the kind of conversation where you're like, this is gonna like be eating at my brain.

38:31.94

upinsmoke

No, it's okay.

38:32.05

lostinthegroove

e

38:32.90

upinsmoke

It's really silly, but this is like, this really fits the description that I explained about what the podcast is where it's like, it's a thought, but then like we get the chance to like go like really detailed into the thought.

38:45.48

upinsmoke

Like, you know, like what should we do?

38:46.00

lostinthegroove

daily actually found finding out like when you're supposed to be changing this shit, you're like, whoa.

38:52.11

upinsmoke

Well, ah my pillow is a squishmallow. Um, and so I wanted to see how I should wash my squishmallow, but like my squishmallow is insanely special to me.

39:04.75

upinsmoke

So I don't want anything to happen to it. So I'm kind of like afraid to wash it, but I know that I can't just like keep like raw dog in my squishmallow every night and like not cleaning it. Cause it doesn't have a pillowcase on it, you know?

39:17.28

upinsmoke

So like I've got to clean it.

39:19.55

lostinthegroove

Well, i have I have two, I think they're called Birmingham Hotel Pillows.

39:19.67

upinsmoke

I don't know.

39:24.50

upinsmoke

Oh.

39:25.54

lostinthegroove

ah They're $40 a piece.

39:28.16

upinsmoke

ah ha ha $80 under my head.

39:33.45

lostinthegroove

Yeah. Yeah, $80 under my head, baby girl, but I love those.

39:33.75

upinsmoke

Sometimes between my legs.

39:37.63

upinsmoke

My squishmallow was only 16 bucks. Sorry.

39:41.94

lostinthegroove

Don't judge me on my $40 pillows because they are bomb.

39:45.05

upinsmoke

I'm not.

39:45.74

lostinthegroove

No, I know you're not, but I'm just saying like,

39:49.84

lostinthegroove

$40 $40 pillow is just somewhat $16 reef. Are you for real?

39:58.92

upinsmoke

W-what was the... Phoridana?

40:01.16

lostinthegroove

$40 I'd be like Well, I can be like if it was 50 and be like it's 50, you know, I got one 50 I got another 50 and then I got one hundred and

40:01.60

upinsmoke

Phoridana? Mickey Halla? Halla Halla Phoridana?

40:11.44

upinsmoke

Oh no...

40:17.00

upinsmoke

I

40:20.06

lostinthegroove

We want to wrap this up.

40:21.80

upinsmoke

don't know. Is anyone in Hollywood not a pedophile?

40:26.43

lostinthegroove

Besides P.D.D.

40:30.50

upinsmoke

Do you think he really did that stuff?

40:31.70

lostinthegroove

Oh, probably. I mean, it was hilarious when they like you found out that Camilla or Camilla or Camilla, whatever her name is. um

40:41.19

upinsmoke

her Kersturma?

40:43.28

lostinthegroove

She was like, with Diddy. You know, like, did Diddy Diddy do? Did he dumb? Did he do?

40:51.57

upinsmoke

Well, I just, no one has said anything about Diddy for like 10 years and all of a sudden he's like relevant and I'm just,

40:51.71

lostinthegroove

Yeah, she she did he do.

40:58.88

lostinthegroove

Because Diddy is like a sore thumb that sticks out like nobody's business. Like that man does not know when to shut the fuck up. OK, that's his problem.

41:10.98

lostinthegroove

He doesn't know when.

41:11.05

upinsmoke

No one. No one uses baby oil as lubricant. Nobody.

41:22.51

lostinthegroove

Pity doo, pity doo.

41:24.47

upinsmoke

I just I don't know. It's not. I don't know, it was like odd. like a just like Did you see the picture? It's just like all these, like it looks so staged.

41:36.71

upinsmoke

It looks like somebody came in and put like a billion things of baby oil.

41:40.82

lostinthegroove

imagine like Diddy on the phone, be like, make sure those bottles line up the right way.

41:48.48

upinsmoke

I don't know what happened, but were whatever they're telling us isn't the truth.

41:50.61

lostinthegroove

I don't know. It's probably probably isn't, but it's kind of fun. I'm not going to lie. Like these past couple of months have been really fucking fun.

42:03.83

upinsmoke

I don't know. Why don't they blame it?

42:05.05

lostinthegroove

Like fun in a crazy and like, oh my God, insane way fun.

42:09.42

upinsmoke

Well, yeah, I don't know. I thought that aliens had some type of president, but I guess not.

42:20.21

lostinthegroove

Yeah, I don't anymore. They're not as important until they start like attacking us. And then when they they start attacking us, then they start to be important.

42:27.65

upinsmoke

Well, I feel like aliens weren't a good enough distraction. And then they were like, oh, they were like, well, we got a lot of distraction out of Epstein stuff. Like, we should just do that again.

42:39.19

upinsmoke

But then they couldn't and.

42:39.67

lostinthegroove

And then they threw in like the Hunter Biden case. It's kind of like, wow, they just everything, everything and any and everything and anything.

42:49.77

upinsmoke

I also have this idea that like some foreign spy from another country is trying to destroy Hollywood from the inside out because Hollywood is something that America is proud of.

43:01.35

lostinthegroove

Possibly.

43:07.65

upinsmoke

It's like something that we're the best at.

43:10.32

lostinthegroove

Mm-hmm.

43:11.24

upinsmoke

And so like it would be successful to destroy Hollywood if you were trying to destroy America.

43:18.31

lostinthegroove

Indeed, my dear comrade. Chies, chies.

43:21.90

upinsmoke

um Pinky.

43:24.95

lostinthegroove

But...

43:26.44

upinsmoke

It's been a good episode.

43:26.56

lostinthegroove

with that Russian but that russian dis disinformation for you.

43:27.56

upinsmoke

Yeah.

43:31.48

lostinthegroove

If you wanna check out Carissa, you can find her on Instagram at American Groove Pod. If you wanna check us out on Lost in the Groove, you can find us on Facebook, TikTok, Instagram, and YouTube at Lost in the Groove Pod.

43:48.02

lostinthegroove

So with that, What do we tell these people? What do we tell these people when we're done with them? That we're done, we're finished, we're finito.

43:54.13

upinsmoke

oh

43:57.28

upinsmoke

Go live your lives, come back when you want some more.

44:03.49

lostinthegroove

Praise, play, and eat.

44:07.33

lostinthegroove

Ain't it the truth? All right, motherfuckers, we're out.

44:09.91

upinsmoke

Eat, pray, love.

44:10.01

lostinthegroove

Peace. Eat, pray, love.