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A Twist-Filled Tale of Three Brothers
Episode 7826th December 2023 • Family Twist • Corey and Kendall Stulce
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In this Kendall-centric episode, we're joined by Chris Clark, Kendall's half-brother, who shares an incredible story of family, discovery and connection. If you're intrigued by tales of long-lost siblings and unexpected family ties, this episode is a must-listen. Kendall's and Chris' journey of uncovering family secrets and forming new bonds is both touching and inspiring.

A Twist-Filled Tale of Three Brothers

Episode Highlights:

  1. A Serendipitous Discovery: Kendall recounts an overwhelming experience of learning he had a brother, leading to an emotional revelation on a rooftop deck.
  2. The Power of Search: Chris' relentless search using the power of the Internet to piece together their family history, leading to astonishing discoveries.
  3. Childhood Revelations: Chris shares poignant memories of their father hinting at the existence of another son, sparking curiosity and confusion in his childhood.
  4. Reconnecting with Lost Siblings: The episode delves into the emotional process of Chris and Kendall reconnecting with their other brother, Todd, and the complex emotions that accompanied these reunions.
  5. The Impact of Adoption: The discussion highlights the challenges and implications of closed adoptions, emphasizing the importance of access to personal history for adoptees.
  6. Family Resemblance and Traits: The brothers reflect on the physical and personality traits they share with their father and each other, underlining the strong genetic ties.
  7. Future Plans and Hopes: The conversation touches on the brothers' aspirations for future reunions and deeper connections, demonstrating the ongoing journey of their relationship.

Conclusion:

Chris' and Kendall's story reminds us of the unbreakable bonds of family, regardless of distance or time. If you've been moved by their story, remember to rate, follow, and review Family Twist. Your support helps us bring more incredible stories like this to you.

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Hello and a heartfelt welcome to all our

listeners as we embark on season four of

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the Family Twist podcast.

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I'm Kendall Austin Stulce and my life's

story is a tapestry of unexpected turns

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from being adopted as an infant to losing

my adopted parents by the time I was 17.

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And then in a twist of fate, finding my

birth family through the magic of DNA

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testing in 2017.

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And I'm Corey Stulce, Kendall's partner on

this life adventure.

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When we uncovered his paternal birth

family's roots on the East Coast, I knew

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our next chapter was calling us there to

mend the missing pieces of Kendall's heart

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with the love of newfound relatives.

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Our podcast began as a single thread, a

narrative of my own, but it is woven into

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a vibrant quilt of stories celebrating the

complexities of DNA surprises, adoption,

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donor conception, NPEs, not the parent

expected.

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Surrogacy and the myriad ways families

come together.

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We've been welcomed into an incredible

community with each guest sharing their

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own family twist.

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And through it all, we found strength in

each other.

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Thank you for letting us share our passion

and these remarkable stories with you.

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The bonds we formed with you, our

listeners, and the stories you share have

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only deepened our commitment to this

journey.

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Family Twist isn't just a podcast, it's a

celebration of the unexpected ties that

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bind us all.

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Thank you for joining us on this fantastic

ride.

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Welcome back to season four of the Family

Twist podcast.

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For those of you who have been listening

for a while, you might've forgotten the

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beginning of my story, but my father,

Scott, got my mother pregnant when they

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were both teenagers, and I was given away

for adoption.

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And then he quickly got a second girl

pregnant.

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And I say girl because she was not an

adult yet.

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And...

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And he was not either.

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And that baby was given up for adoption.

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And then he got a third girl pregnant,

married her and raised my brother, Chris,

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that you've heard from before and you're

going to hear from in this episode.

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And my sister, Monica.

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Chris starts off the episode with a

reminder of what it was like to meet me

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six years ago.

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And then how he prompted our dad to help

us figure out who my birth mother was and

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where she was and that sort of thing.

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We start the episode with that.

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And then Corey talks to Chris about, and I

do too, talk to Chris about finding our

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brother, Todd.

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The office where I worked had six desks

and often four people were sitting in

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there with me at the same moment.

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But it was just like the perfect time.

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There was nobody there.

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I feel like I, you and I had a chance to

talk without feeling like other people are

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listening.

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And it was just, it was of course amazing.

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And you told me so much in the first

minute of that call that I didn't know.

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Yeah.

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It must've been amazing.

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Weight coming off your shoulders and with

every word I was giving you, it had to

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have been like,

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In your mind, you must've had a million

questions and I'm giving you bits and

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pieces that are just checking boxes for

you.

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It's like I said, it's such a different,

I'm on the opposite end of it.

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And I'm not, none of that.

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My questions are, wow, does he look like

dad?

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Does he sound like dad?

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Does he look, is he as tall as dad?

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Is he look like me?

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Like there, my questions were more simple.

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What was his life like?

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But I didn't, I wasn't in the dark.

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I was raised.

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I.

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by him, I had all of those things already

answered.

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Well, when you and I got off the phone,

still nobody had come up into the office

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where I was and so nobody disturbed me,

but that office had a rooftop, we had a

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access to a rooftop deck and nobody was

out there.

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And I remember opening the door right by

my desk, going out onto the rooftop deck

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and sobbed for just minutes.

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I just.

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I was overwhelmed.

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Oh sure.

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Just sure overwhelmed.

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And I remember going downstairs in the

office saying, and people looked at me

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like I had just seen a ghost or something

like that, like I looked physically

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affected and I remember Jamie, one of my

colleagues who was just fantastic, she

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said, what's wrong Kendall?

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And I was like, nothing, actually

nothing's wrong.

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This is like the most wonderful moment.

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And I just started spewing verbally

spewing.

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telling everybody who was in there all

staring at me like in disbelief and they

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all start crying to hear somebody say that

you're my brother and you're telling me

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the name of my mother.

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It felt very surreal.

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Right.

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I actually thought I was having an outer

body.

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I would think you must have been like

almost ready to pass out.

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I would have a hard time breathing

normally.

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And I would, I would be probably in a

position where I need to like literally

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focus on my breathing or I'm going to lose

it.

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Yeah.

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You know, that, that is, that is amazing.

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Yeah.

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I remember you being really polite about,

I know they're not, you're not related to

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them, but you think there's any way that

you could help me find who they were.

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I think I can.

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So I called dad right away and said, I

want more details.

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What do you mean?

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No, no, no.

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It was probably half drunk.

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I said, she has siblings.

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Do you know anything about her parents'

names?

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Tell me what you know about her father,

that type of stuff.

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And then he'd say, Oh, yeah.

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And the sister.

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What's her real name, dad?

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Come on.

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He struggled for a little while and he

came up with, he goes, dad was not an air

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force guy, Navy guy.

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Like I was like, I didn't realize any

other branch was on a what is air for.

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I don't, I'm just dumb to that.

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I didn't know.

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So I said, Oh, I said, that's interesting.

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So I, I typed in her name, your mom's

name, her sister's name, Navy obituary,

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Arkansas.

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I think that's what I put in is all my and

first hit you knew it was, it was a, it

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was a perfect hit when you read the

obituary and it referenced her name being.

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Yeah, exactly.

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So I was like, Oh my God, I just found out

who they are, where they are.

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He has, he has more siblings.

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We're going to talk about how you found

out that you had brothers.

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I've referenced before on the podcast

about there were bad moments in my life

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where

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I got myself into some trouble with dad.

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Dad would hit me or whatever.

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I'd get upset and whimper upstairs and

he'd always have some sort of sorrow or

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will to apologize and come up and then lay

down and say, I'm sorry.

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And I shouldn't have done that and all

that type of stuff.

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And then for at least two moments where he

said, don't ever forget, you're my number

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one son.

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Well, it's just me and Monica.

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That makes no sense.

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And I would say I was probably 11 or 12 is

my guess.

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Well, you do have another brother.

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And that just changed everything in my

head.

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I'm like, Oh my God, I have an older

brother.

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He told me the whole story about his

girlfriend and how young he was.

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And that they had a son.

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And the only thing that he knew was that

he was named after him.

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Just this thing in the back of your mind

after that, you don't really put a lot of

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thought into it as a kid.

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Every once in a while, if something would

ever come up about adoption, you'd think

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about it or, but the way he described it,

it was in Arkansas.

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There's no way back then there was no

worldwide web.

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There was no way to find anything.

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So I just gave up pretty early on in my

life that I would never find to have a

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brother.

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So what could you do?

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Right.

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So I really didn't put a ton of thought

into it for my early years.

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And then as you get older and then the

internet became a thing, you start looking

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into it and getting more deeply involved

and trying to figure stuff out about, you

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know, quote unquote, Scott, which is

Kendall.

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But before that happened, I learned that I

had a second brother.

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How'd that come out?

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It happened after college because my

girlfriend and I had broken up and I

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needed a place to live.

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So I moved back in with my parents for

about two months.

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And during that two month stint.

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There was a phone call.

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And as always, my dad never touched the

phone.

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The phone was never for him.

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It was always for my mother.

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And my mother picks up the phone.

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She's like, Scott, the phone's for you.

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He goes, what?

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That was always like, that was never a

thing.

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Who's calling me?

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Why would someone call me?

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You know, she's like, no, it's Kathy from

high school.

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He's like, what?

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She wants to talk to you.

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He was on the phone with her probably 20

minutes, 25 minutes.

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which was a longer conversation.

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She's not on the phone with anybody ever.

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I'd never heard him on the phone ever.

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And he gets off the phone.

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He's white as a ghost.

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And he says, whoa, apparently I have

another son.

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It's like this really pathetic admittance

that- Guess what I did.

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Had you ever heard of her before?

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No, never.

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Heard of her- Because you and your mom,

Anna, they knew each other.

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Oh yeah, they were friends.

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They were friends.

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My mom was friends with her and they were

pregnant at the same time.

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Yeah, I was they went to, um, unwed

mothers, whatever it was called, unwed

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mothers program in the town that they were

in.

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They were both in there.

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There's some sort of support thing that

both of them were in.

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At the same time, six months apart.

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They were probably only simultaneously

pregnant for about five or six weeks.

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Because I was premature.

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So it was Kendall.

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The one thing that after it all came out.

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My mother would say your dad always denied

said there's no way Because from my

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understanding is that they will wait

together once at least to that point where

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there was risk That's all it takes good.

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Whatever the truth is he wholeheartedly

never believed that was just his game and

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According to her there was nobody else

that equipped them.

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She's very confident Did she say to Scott

why she waited so long to bring this up?

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This is my understanding of it.

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I think she had a long held grudge.

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His stance at that age back then too, was

that this is not my kid.

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So she might have confronted him before

and he said no way, not mine.

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Right.

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Disagreed, fought it, whatever.

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He was probably already in love with my

mother, probably already pregnant with me

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and definitely did not want anything else.

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Get in the way is my guess.

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Dad loved to brag about his time, you

know.

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as a teenager and how many girls he had.

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He was living in the woods and it was

basically a party every weekend.

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He would brag about that stuff even when I

was 13, 14, 15.

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Oh, wow.

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Okay.

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You know, made me think that was normal,

like a normal way to try to be.

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He was clearly.

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Put into a position where he could not

fight that anymore.

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But even though that was the case, he

still had a doubt because the conversation

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was she said, your son is coming up.

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from where he's been living his entire

life, where his adoptive parents live, and

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he's coming up to meet me.

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And I think he had, oddly enough, had come

to Massachusetts his entire life.

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Every summer, I think, he'd spent time up

here.

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So all along, he was always within

probably 100 miles.

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I never knew it.

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I think he was combining his trip to see

some family, some of his adopted family up

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here, and agreed to meet his.

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his birth mother for the very first time.

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Now how did she connect with him?

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Well I don't know anything for certain,

but I know that supposedly it was a sealed

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adoption and she was not supposed to have

any knowledge of where he ended up going

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or any of that stuff.

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My understanding is probably, I don't know

if I should say this or not, that she made

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some claims about her health and that she

really needed to pass on the potential her

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or offspring might experience.

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So they agreed to unseal it for that

purpose.

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Really interesting because that is like

one of the main things that we're fighting

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for right now with closed adoptions is

that these kids need to know.

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They need to know if there's health risks.

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You give up a child and you sign away your

rights.

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And deep down when you were a teenager,

you're probably not really prepared to

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live with that.

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Right.

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At that time, you don't realize what

you're preparing to live with.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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So I think she had serious regrets.

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Yeah.

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And desperate.

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But that really wanted to see this child.

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I look, I have to admit, I would have done

that or more.

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Yeah.

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I would want to know my child.

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Yeah.

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Right.

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You do whatever you have to do to find

them.

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That's who I am.

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But oh, completely.

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Well, the.

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Info we received was that he was going to

be coming up from North Carolina to

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Massachusetts, to the Cape, where, you

know, where he was conceived, took visit

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family and to meet his birth mother on the

Cape.

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Our uncle, Sean, still lived on the Cape

and it was about 15 miles away from where

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we lived in New Hampshire.

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So dad being a, not much for any sort of

confrontation with something he might find

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uncomfortable like that.

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And B.

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He hates traveling.

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He doesn't like driving long distances.

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He gets high anxiety.

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I knew that his response was, I don't want

to go.

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He was kind of trying to find a way out of

it.

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So what he did was he asked Sean if he

could meet this kid and determine if he

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quite possibly looks like him, where he

could possibly be his kid.

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If he looked like me, he would say, he's

not your kid.

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He doesn't look like you, Scott.

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I think he was literally painting a house

and Kathy and Todd, our brother, pulled up

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to his job site to meet Sean.

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And Sean had not necessarily kept in touch

with Kathy, but had seen her around town

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and knew newer, they always had been, they

knew each other in high school and all

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that stuff's later on called and said,

Scott, he's yours 100%.

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He looks like you blonde hair, blue eyes,

walks like you even almost.

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Talks like you, has no ass like you.

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That's your boy.

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Immediately he's just you, but bigger.

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What was Scott's reaction?

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I think he felt even more worried.

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I think he was like, oh God, this whole

time I never thought it.

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I just never believed it.

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I think deep down he really didn't.

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I think he thought that Cathy was just not

telling the truth.

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It was really a big surprise for him and I

think he had to come to grips with it and

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he did.

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I think by the evening.

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He agreed that we needed to go down to the

Cape that next morning.

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So that was the plan.

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We were gonna go down.

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And I think all four of us were going,

Monica, me, mom, dad.

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I believe we even packed some stuff into

the car.

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We were getting ready to go and the phone

rang and it was Kathy.

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And she said, Todd does not wanna meet

you.

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She was speaking on his behalf.

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And I think my father was relieved.

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I was bummed.

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I wanted to meet my brother.

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Here I am.

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I never thought I'd ever meet you.

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I just found out I have another brother.

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I gotta meet this guy, you know?

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So that got shot down and then that was

it.

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If he doesn't wanna meet us, then that's

totally, I'm gonna respect that or I'll

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never push.

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That was my belief from that point was

I'll just never push and that was it.

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I gave up on that altogether, you know,

thought about him.

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Wondered how your lives were, what you

guys had for similarities, all that stuff.

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And always had you guys both in the back

of my mind.

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Occasionally would do internet searches

trying to find adoption Databases and see

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if I could find any information about

either of you really not knowing much like

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other than Your name given and I now knew

Todd's name But still really didn't know

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what to look up But I never really looked

for Todd because I thought his wish was to

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not be found Yeah in 2015 Fast forward,

what's that 20 years almost 19 years later

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I got invited by friends and dad got

invited to go to Loudon, New Hampshire for

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NASCAR, which for me was just about

tailgating.

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I had zero interest in the race car part

of it.

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All right, I'm going to be with friends

and family.

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This sounds like a plan.

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Let's do it.

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And I wanted the experience.

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You see what it was like.

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And we had a great, great day.

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It was just a hot, fun, drinking, fun,

beer.

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There are a few beers.

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few beers?

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Just a few every couple of minutes.

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We had the ride home from Loudon.

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I dropped him off back at his place and on

route we're having some good

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heart-to-hearts and stuff and I was

talking about his life and talking about

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how I wish he would slow down his drinking

and you know what were his regrets in life

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and I said do you ever think about your

sons your other two sons?

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He says I do.

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I think about them from time to time.

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Of course I do.

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I just

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wonder if they hate me.

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And he was always worried about that.

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He was always scared that the two of you

would come back and just bludgeon him.

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Like he just had that deep rooted fear.

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You guys wanted to just kill him.

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I said, the first one's name is Scott.

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And we talked about you for awhile.

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And I said, the second one is, is Todd.

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I goes, I think that's what it was.

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Right.

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I go, yeah.

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And I got home at like midnight and after

dropping him off and I got onto Facebook.

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And started searching that name and typing

in North Carolina with the name.

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And it came up with like 20 hits.

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I clicked on the first one and his photos

were not protected.

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And I started skipping through his photos

and I go, Oh my God.

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He's a Clark.

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I mean, there's a couple of pictures that

he looks just like dad.

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When dad was younger.

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There's pictures of Todd.

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When he, when he's like.

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in his 30s and he looks like dad in his

30s.

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Oh, he's my, this guy right here, I'm

looking at my brother right now.

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This is just surreal.

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Literally, I had no doubts.

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What were you feeling like?

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I mean, what were your emotions?

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I think Karen was asleep, so there was

nobody to talk to about it.

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At that exact moment, I'm like, holy crap,

holy crap, this is my brother for sure.

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And I sent him a message on Messenger and

I said, my name is Chris Clark, my dad is

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Scott Clark.

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Does that mean anything to you?

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I thought maybe I'll get a note back in

the next week or two.

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And I think it was like less than 15

minutes later.

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He said, that would make you my brother.

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This was after midnight.

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That was when we connected and we, I think

we, I think we talked that night.

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If I remember correctly, we talked that

night.

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Wow.

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Yeah.

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For quite a while.

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I think, you know, him learning that and,

you know, I think obviously that must have

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been pretty exciting for him.

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What was immediately relating to me was

that it wasn't true that he did not want

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to know us.

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He did and Kathy had made the whole thing

up.

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Mm-hmm.

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What did she tell him?

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I think she must have told him they didn't

want to come down and talk to him.

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Was he like torn about this or was he just

like feeling weird about it?

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About me reaching out?

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Just in general because after this whole

weird thing she obviously told him you

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guys were going to meet and at the last

minute she called it off.

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Yeah, which I'm sure she could not have

admitted to him.

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There's no way, because here she is trying

to create a relationship with him.

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And then if he was okay with meeting us,

then there's no way he could have.

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Been okay with her saying, no, I called

this off.

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Why would he, why would he be okay with

that?

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Right?

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I would not have been.

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She's the villain in this story for sure.

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She's the twisted of the twist.

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I don't want to say anything bad, but no,

but we're not going to invite her on.

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So we talked.

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And boy, he gave me a full rundown of his

life.

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And the thing I, you know, hopefully

someday he'll come on and tell you about

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it.

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I don't think it's my place to say his

story, but there were some things that,

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you know, growing up that he was yearning

for knowing who his real parents were.

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And when I told him what it was really

like to be raised by his father, I don't

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think he felt so bad about his upbringing.

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We ended up meeting.

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Within maybe six or eight months after

that, he had come up for a wedding for his

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extended families that they're all in

Massachusetts or in New England.

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In the middle of the reception, he skipped

out to hang out with us for about two

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hours.

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We went to a restaurant, maybe an eighth

of a mile from the reception hall.

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And that was you, Scott.

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And Monica.

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Was Scott asking him questions?

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Not much.

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I think he was just in awe of all of it.

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And, you know, he'd say stuff like, wow,

you know, that simple.

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I'm just really kind of happy.

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You don't want to kill me.

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What was the look on his face when he saw

his son that he'd never met before?

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He said, you're definitely a Clark.

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And I said more than me.

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He goes, yeah, he is more than you.

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That's amazing how much time looks.

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What was it like for you laying your eyes

on Todd for the first time?

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Having Facebook gives you a really good

understanding who you're gonna meet So

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nothing was a major surprise other than

like just the how big he is.

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Yeah.

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Oh my god.

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He's Every bit of six line backs three.

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Yeah He is the size I had hoped to be we

had a great two hours with him He and I

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probably have one really good conversation

a year, you know I'd probably connect

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another one to two times a year.

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Other than that, we don't talk a ton

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But it's not because we don't like each

other.

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It's just cause he's a pretty to himself

type of guy.

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Kind of like Scott.

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Yep.

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I give him a heads up on dads.

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Let's call him his traits.

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And he is like, oh, well, that's good to

know.

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Like he's appreciative to know that

there's probably a reason behind some of

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the things he's experiencing.

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I hope we can get together again.

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I know at some point.

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when we're empty nesters, we'll be making

a trek down to the Carolinas.

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I think the three brothers need to get

together.

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Absolutely.

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Yeah.

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I would love that.

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That would be great.

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Now Kendall, Kendall's met Todd.

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What was your gut reaction when you laid

eyes on him for the first time?

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Well, I mean, I already felt, felt like a

Clark, but Todd made me feel that much

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more.

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Did you see a lot of your dad in him?

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Absolutely.

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Like Todd was very jovial.

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I found that about our dad as well.

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Yeah.

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It was wonderful.

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Big booming voice.

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Oh my gosh.

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You know, the room, like whether he's

trying to or not, it's just, it's just a

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different type of depth and volume to it.

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Right.

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Both of them have that.

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And I'm not that person.

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Well, you know what your voice, you have a

deeper voice.

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It's prominent.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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I think your vocal cords are coming.

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Oh, the clocks for sure.

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Everybody loves your voice on the podcast.

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They said you have a voice for radio.

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That's where I started out.

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