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so Mandy, I have a list of

questions that have been submitted.

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Okay.

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Do you want to do like a fire round?

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Let's do it.

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Okay.

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, 'cause you something else want to tell

you, but I bet it's going to come up.

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Oh, okay.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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That sounds good to me.

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There we go.

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Okay.

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Besides an eye cream, what's a good way

to reduce I wrinkles and creepy skin.

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So I creams.

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Uh, colleagues.

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So I written space in a spa and they're

going to hate me for saying this because.

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They sell a lot of ice creams.

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Um, y'all don't you don't need eye cream.

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I creamed usually has less.

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Active ingredients than

what's on your face.

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So that is a way it's another

product for the skincare industry

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and those skincare lines to sell.

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And I don't, I am not hating on them.

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There's two things you don't need to.

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I please remove from your skincare

routine as soon as you've gotten

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through them, especially if they're

expensive, eye creams and toners, you

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do not need in medical aesthetics.

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There's a joke that toners

are for ink cartridges.

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Owners are a way to balance

the pH in your skin because

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you're using a shitty cleanser.

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Uh, cleanser or cleanse your face

with just some basic coconut oil.

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And call it a day.

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You don't need toner unless it's just

like, like something that's hydrating.

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Some people will use just, um,

Like a rosewater just cause

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they like it and it smells good.

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That makes you feel good thing.

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Go.

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You spend money.

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And if that makes you feel

good, especially it has

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some nice essential oils.

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Think of it.

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If it's more like a vitamin great,

because anything that's more

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watery has a low molecular weight.

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Which means your skin's

going to absorb it.

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Well, look, we can talk about the order

of what you put skincare on later, too.

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If you want to definitely.

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And that's what goes to that.

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So when it comes to

preventing wrinkles around.

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If you're not going to get Botox, which I

think this is it's this, person's probably

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asking that because of that I'm preventing

crepey skin or treating that creepy skin,

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massaging your skin, massaging like a

very heavy moisturizer into your skin.

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, the only way to really tighten really

that skin is, is usually like a

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thermal based thermal devices like

radiofrequency microneedling or

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any laser treatments or plasma pen.

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That's when you really going

to tighten to treat the root.

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But if you want to just do it at

home, usually that crepey skin is from

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dehydration drinking, again, drinking

half your body weight in ounces, and you

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seem like a really heavy moisturizer.

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My chia is one of my favorite.

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I didn't know about that

line with us, so good.

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Oh, my gosh, she didn't.

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No about that line.

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So I started renting space at

Rose Finch and I, oh my gosh.

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That line is amazing.

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They have a, and you can use it all over.

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So.

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I creams, just going

back to the eye cream.

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I creams are a way to also it's safer.

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People think it's safer

to put around your eyes.

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I put retinol.

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I have a Trenton Owen around my eyes.

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I get it within, like, it's just to

protect those because if they have

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ingredients that can just hurt your eyes.

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Protecting their delicate and okay.

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Yes.

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But.

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I think you can use the face, use it

around your eyes if you can handle it.

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And if you just need something

more gentle because you have

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crazy sensitive skin is sure.

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Use an eye cream, whatever.

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Um, but massaging your

skin as much as possible.

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Think about two pieces of leather.

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If you were to take two pieces of leather

and put them out in the sun, and one

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was massaged with oil, Shea, butter,

whatever you want every single day, a one

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just sat there, you know, how different

those two things are going to do, but

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we have a blood supply to our face or

so why are we talking about leather?

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Yeah.

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I'm thinking of Kobe beef.

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Right.

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Thanks.

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exactly what you wanted.

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I love it.

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Steve bond with them.

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Jokes.

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You entered the flood into the equation.

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I did.

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I did.

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Um, We can't be like pineapple leather.

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Cactus leather sitting in the sun.

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Like, what is that?

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I love it.

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Um, but if you massage your face more,

like you should must be massage in

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your face until it's hot pink for real.

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Okay.

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There are circulation circuit.

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The benefit of that.

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Um, and you know what to, , you

know, like little dermal rollers,

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Those are not a waste of money.

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Oh, I can tell her now I use

that regularly and love that.

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So those people say, oh,

I microneedle at home.

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Like you mean you dermal role?

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Yeah.

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Um, totally different.

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There's no way.

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Even if you had like something that's

like it was two millimeters, you were

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never going to press hard enough to

get that two millimeters into your skin

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because it goes in at an angle and it

pops up at an angle it's tearing the skin.

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And you'd have like, even with numbing

cream, like you'd have no, there's no way.

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Just use a point of like a 0.25 is

all you ever need for dermal roller.

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You can use it on top of a serum

or you can use it by itself.

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And you're going to tear your skin

up a little bit, but that's good.

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It's just not, it's just

nice and exfoliating.

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I do mind over my serum.

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Good.

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And you will get a little bit of, there's

a tiny bit of product loss when you do it

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that way, because it gets on the roller.

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Yeah.

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But.

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As long as you just, I think it's

better to actually put the serum on

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first and then just do it a little bit.

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Yeah.

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I am a huge fan of those.

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Um, also just to, when it comes to

stimulating, , around the eyes, you can.

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, when there's these eye

massager pins that vibrate.

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And they're warming to do

that on top of product too.

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It helps anything warm helps

with product penetration.

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That makes sense.

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But to really treat the

root of crepey skin.

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Sorry to be long-winded about this.

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Really to the root of crepey skin,

you need something like Plaza, pin,

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or a fractional laser resurfacing

that to treat the root, but you can

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moisturizing also hyaluronic acid yall.

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Hyleronic acid is this.

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Everyone is.

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It's baked into a lot of

moisturizers these days.

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Right?

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We have in our skin, we lose a lot of it

as well as fat college and elastin bone,

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all the good things and muscle, all of it.

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As we get older.

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So, but, , hyleronic acid.

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That's what fillers made of.

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Yeah.

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So, um, or most, most of filler.

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, so whenever you put hyaluronic acid on you

having like creepy or dry skin, first of

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all, make sure your skin is exfoliated.

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Yeah.

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, I prefer using exfoliating

gloves and coconut oil.

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That's called a manual exfoliant.

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You could also use a chemical

exfoliant, like PCA has a

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really good pumpkin enzyme mask.

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It is spicy as hell, but it is fantastic.

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And they now you certainly

be in the treatment room.

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They now are selling it to the masses.

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Which is awesome.

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That is, that is like a borderline

medical grade enzyme mask.

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And you can now have it at home.

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I love them.

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What about cut every time I say PCA.

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They have some really great

standout product, but sodas.

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Um, so I was like, well, I'll

get into next stuff in a minute.

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Okay.

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But yeah, they just exfoliating first

it making sure it's heavily moisturized.

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So hyaluronic acid makes sure your skin

is wet before you ever play hyleronic

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acid because here's the kicker.

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A lot of estheticians would

be like, oh, your skin is dry.

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You need hyaluronic acid.

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It just depends on the climate in

Atlanta, where we are recording this.

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It is usually , humid.

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, it holds a thousand times

its weight in water.

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That hyaluronic acid, that molecule

is going to pull , that water from

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the air you're in Arizona where it's

not you're put on a hyaluronic acid.

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Guess what?

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The hyaluronic acid is going to

pull moisture from somewhere.

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Guess there's going to pull it from your.

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Her skin.

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So I've seen some people's skin get worse

next to people like who will get acne

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because their skin is being dried out

and their sebaceous scans glands goes on

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overdrive and they start breaking out.

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They're like, wait a minute.

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But my estheticians, I need moisture.

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And actually the more

you should pull it out.

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So.

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Oh, man, you got me fired up.

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I hate eye creams.

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How you feel about that?

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There are a few that are okay.

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Um, provision has one called TME.

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Um, it has some things, some tea in it.

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Maybe somebody PK.

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Okay.

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, things like vitamin K vitamin K

is the, they give it to babies.

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It is a blood clotting vitamin just

really good people with dark circles.

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Okay.

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Good for puffiness.

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Anything with caffeine Titans.

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So I assume, especially with the eyes

and like all of these questions I'm

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going to get into a lot of this is about.

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Preventing an issue.

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From getting bad in the first place, as

opposed to like waiting until you're like,

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fuck, what's happening around my eyes.

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Yeah.

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Oh yeah.

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, people have invited me to

a few Facebook's groups.

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I can't even get into any more.

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Cause this is like, Oh man.

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I need an eye cream and I'm like, no.

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Yeah.

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I love the bath and Bodyworks one.

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Yes.

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St Ives.

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Um, That's like a bad

word in our industry.

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The same.

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that night.

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I will say if anyone's listening

to this and like cringing

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thinking, we're judging you.

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We are.

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Um, yeah, but honestly, you.

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You just don't know better than

you've never heard somebody say that.

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Totally fine.

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I don't want to waste

this, use it on your body.

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Use it on your feet.

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Use.

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It on your knees, like scrub the crap.

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Oh, my gosh, these are

your boyfriend's feet.

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Yeah.

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Gnarly feet.

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That's the biggest tip of.

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Like use it to like sand.

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Get some paint off.

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Table.

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And your new taco bell.

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Yes.

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And don't don't word, this thing.

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Okay.

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So Mandy doesn't like ice cream.

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Got it.

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Um, , next question.

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Any suggestions for Eleven's

that I can do myself.

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Ideally, other than frownies.

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No.

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Frowning.

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Seriously or Botox, right?

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Okay.

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Here's the thing.

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Frownies um, I liked, she

liked the Derma clear patches.

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The reason I didn't clean, I

actually love frownies too.

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Friday's we'll say.

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They'll say why they're like, this is a

medical grade, this, and then frownies has

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been around for so many years, actually

found is it's around for a very long time.

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Okay.

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People give that girl such a hard time.

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I think it's like the granddaughter

of the lady who invented it, but

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that's the one that's been around.

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Okay.

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It's so brilliant.

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So I heard a plastic surgeon

talk about silicone patches.

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I couldn't believe a plastic surgeon

talking about this at a conference.

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If you don't sell, he's

talking to medical aesthetic.

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Uh, like med spa owners.

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It's like, if you don't sell this

to patients, He was like, give them

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something to do at home that extends

the results when it comes to Botox.

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Because, especially if

you don't want Botox.

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And how we explain it.

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I never heard explained it this way,

and it's actually hard to find this

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information online, but he's right.

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And I've heard the.

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But he's right.

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And I've heard the funniest

go talk about this.

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What, what your skin thinks is happening.

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When you put a silicone patch on it.

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It thinks it's like, you're you.

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You know, just press

on your legs right now.

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Yeah.

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And all of a sudden the muscle, it

trains the muscles to calm the fuck down.

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Does work.

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Do I have any lines in my

forehead and glabella at all?

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No you look at and say, Um, do

you know why I have full movement?

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Thank you.

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First of all, but I work at it.

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I massage my face twice a day, but

I'm not adding Miami to tell you

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about, uh, atomic habits and habit

stacking and all that good stuff.

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I don't, there's no extra step I take, I

just massage my moisturizer into my face.

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I'm telling you that, like,

I don't have any lines.

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My board.

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Uh, because I wear patches all

the time and I'm just not super as

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expressive anymore because those

patches train my muscles to calm down.

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Now, some people can't sleep in them.

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That's the best way to do it.

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Cause you got like eight ish

hours of something literally

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pressing on your muscle.

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Yeah, they do work and I have injectors.

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I have other doctors

a big, no, they don't.

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I was like, look up the research

on this and I'm living proof.

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Best interest that they don't work.

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Oh, my gosh.

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It's fantastic.

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But even that girl that I was telling you

about, that's just like fixated on these

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teeny tiny lines and she looks amazing.

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Yeah.

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I'm like just where you're still

looking patched with some people.

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We're in massage as much as you can.

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I love using fash.

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So a good combination for

whoever asked this question.

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If I was going to pick the

best combination possible that

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you actually want to stick

with, I would use Reebok seven.

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That's also from revision.

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It has some plant peptides in it

is that we call it topical Botox.

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They say people, it picks up where Botox

leaves off just like little lines on top.

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Okay.

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I would use a FasciaBlaster.

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Um, I'd actually put Reebok seven on

before he put the patch on, because your

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skin has to be bone dry before you put

those patches on or they won't stick.

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Okay.

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But Reebok seven will rub

into your skin pretty well.

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So will some retinols.

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You're like hotboxing.

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We're talking.

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Is that what that closet is?

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I always show it to my

appointments with me.

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I do like super stone because I

know I'm going to just be laying

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on this, like a warm cloud of a.

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Like table with nothing to do.

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And I'm just like,

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Oh, God.

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He's savvy with needles.

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Um, but so for, so for 11, sure.

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It could Botox fix it.

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Absolutely.

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But if that's not what you want

to do, can you fix it yourself?

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Absolutely.

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And do not listen to any injector

that tells you otherwise.

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It just takes a lot of

elbow grease at home.

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So like one night you could do list.

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Let's let's do go back and forth.

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The two best things you could do.

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Let's just say like on a Monday night you

did a little Reebok seven on that area.

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You put a silicone patch there, whichever

there's so many silicone patches, I don't

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care which one you use find one that

you like, okay, I'll put the silicone

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patch on, sleep in it, call it a day.

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Maybe the next night.

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You're just going to rub in a little

bit of whatever, whatever they're

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Sarah, maybe, maybe she retinol.

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And you're going to use

a FasciaBlaster on top.

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So read about FasciaBlaster.

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I'm a huge fan.

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I have seven of them and I always

hide them when I have my house

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cleaned because it looks like I have

all these sex toys in my shower.

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'cause I haven't for the body.

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Cause.

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It stretches fascia bands to.

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They caused dimples.

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It is amazing for just like, oh,

it's amazing for so many things,

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we'll go down the FasciaBlaster.

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Yeah, fan of it, but also to actually

this touches on the question before

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about like little CrossFit, you have to

be careful around the eye because you

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don't want to extra ever, , rupture any.

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, fat cells.

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Okay.

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That makes sense.

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Should you be careful on the eye, but I

love that thing and I love it for neck

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rings to make time easily be a volt.

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, but yeah, that would do back

and forth without, sorry.

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Yeah.

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So I think, and I know the person who

asked this, so I'm wondering, ah, If I can

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read between the lines, no pun intended.

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Okay.

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, but, and for me, like I see

the ads for the Silicon things.

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I'm like, oh, I'm not sleeping in that.

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I'm going to look ridiculous.

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And if you want, if you're sleeping

alone, but it's like, so you don't

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the fact that you don't have to

wear it every single night, I think

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is a big piece of information.

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That I'm intrigued by.

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Sorry to interrupt you.

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Um, you also it's, you

don't have to sleep in it.

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That's just when you, so what

happens is that not only does it

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train your muscles, but it creates

an environment of homeostasis.

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Homeostasis just means.

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In layman's terms, a perfect environment.

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Boom like environment for your skin.

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It traps moisture, which is

called transepidermal water loss.

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It true.

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You lose about 40% of moisture comes

through your skin at night ish.

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Um, and it traps all of it.

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So Chris has perfect environment.

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And when it by, I will say, whenever

you see any of the patches, like it

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creates college in the last and bullshit.

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No, it does not.

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Cause it's not injuring the skin.

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You have to injure the skin, just

like you have to injure the muscle

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treat Creek collagen elastin.

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When people's, it's like drinking a

protein shake and all of a sudden be like,

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oh, I'm going to have a six pack tomorrow.

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Yeah, drink.

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To get college and stuff.

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And be like, I'm going to have

a bunch more collagen, no bull.

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You have to injure the skin to

create college of an Alaskan.

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Are you saying college and supplements?

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Don't work.

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It's collagen and supplements.

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There is a little bit of I've I've

I've heard about some white papers.

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There is, are some studies.

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This is me taking a step back then,

how would I use to think about this?

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But there are some new studies

that at colleagues can build a

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tiny, a little bit of collagen, um,

by taking some or even deciding.

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It's advertised.

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No.

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Oh my God.

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No, no.

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It is literally the same thing is having

of having a protein shake and expecting

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to have a bicep without working out.

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Causing those micro tears at the

gym by, you know, picking up a

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dumbbell and actually doing curls.

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Right.

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Okay.

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Same exact thing.

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You have to enter the skin.

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Different ways.

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Trait collagen, elastin.

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So anything that you're ever

putting on topical that's like it's

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crates college and lesson full.

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Okay.

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So crazy.

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This is not the next question.

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This is me.

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Okay.

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But I want to piggyback off of that.

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You said something to me once

that made so much sense to me.

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And I think it was during our

consultation before I did the plasma pen.

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You made a comment cause I was like, I

don't know, like, do I need like Botox?

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Do I need fillers?

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Like what's the situation.

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And you explained to me that if

you don't have good collagen.

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The filler just sits like on your face.

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And then you just have this filler phase,

which I see happen to people all the time.

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And so I hadn't made that connection

between needing to address your

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college in either in conjunction

with filler or prior to filler.

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I think what you mean is that if

you're doing so when you start having

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volume loss, that is what this re.

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That is what filler

replaces a lot of injectors.

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And you hear plastic surgeons,

especially men might have a couple

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of favorite ones there in California.

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Talk about this a lot.

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The injectors are putting

filler in the wrong place.

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Places we don't lose volume.

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Did you know you don't

lose volume in your cheeks?

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You don't lose volume in your lips.

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The cheeks fall.

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That's why we start looking very square.

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If you keep stacking filler up here just

to lift things up, just pushes it out.

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Then all of a sudden you're like,

oh, I need some under eye filler.

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Also, my cheeks are jacked up.

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Yeah.

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How we do lose volume in our temples.

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We do lose volume underneath their eyes.

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Like those are the places that

filler I think is more appropriate.

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Every injector listened to that to

be like, ah, I disagree with you.

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And that's fine.

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I get my information from

well-respected plastic surgeons, not

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from injectors who are PAs and nurses.

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Even though there are many that are

fabulous, but I'm just seeing people like.

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like nasal labial fold filler.

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It's not where you lose volume.

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That's where people that's where

all the sudden, like you need to

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tighten the cheeks back up that.

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That fold.

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Is it just because you've lost some

Alasta and you lost me college and

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you need to tighten all this back up.

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And sometimes a facelift is the way to go.

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That bothers somebody that badly.

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Or some people just need, like,

just like some fat removed.

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There's lots of different

devices that do that these days.

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When people have volume loss, I'm

a huge fan of fat transfer over.

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And again, injectors are never

going to steer you that way.

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Yeah, because they can't legally

do it has to be done by a doctor.

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Right.

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If you're all the sudden being like, you

know what there's cause like, let's talk

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about the eyes, the eyes and the neck age,

10 years faster than the rest of the face.

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Same with the hands because

it's 10 times thinner ish.

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It can be a little bit different

for different people, but that

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let's just that's it's about that.

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So when I'm trying to build up college in

the last, like, I can build up college in

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the last and in those areas all day long.

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But when you have, especially around

the eyes, when you have, there's

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only so much, I can build up.

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People also had fat loss.

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And so on.

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So all of a sudden it's sometimes you

have people that have those fat pads.

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So it was really the oval fat pads.

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And they're losing college and

they're just, they're starting to

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see them more because they're losing

college in Alaska and around it.

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And the best bet really is just to, and

there'll be, people will come to me,

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like, what do I do about puffy eyes?

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I'm like, is it puffy from

inflammation, water retention?

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Or is it puffy from fat pads?

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And that is, I can't do

anything about either one.

507

Yeah.

508

One is more lymphatic drainage

where you can do with like And wash

509

off surgery and people are like,

why don't want to have surgery?

510

Am.

511

Well, I, I understand that is usually

what people say to me, but I don't want

512

to have surgery, but once people start

getting filler and 80% of people, 80%

513

are not candidates for filler underneath

the eyes because that skin is so thin.

514

Think about if we were

to take a drop of water.

515

I can put it anywhere

on this table, right?

516

It would magnify what's underneath there.

517

I have people that get, I encourage people

to get filler dissolve underneath their

518

eyes all the time they'll come to me.

519

And that, that, that hollow sunken and

tear trough is all puffed up with filler.

520

I can see it.

521

I can feel it.

522

They're like some just looks weird.

523

I'm like they put it too shallow or

they're just not, they either they

524

didn't put it in the right place or

they're just not a candidate for it.

525

Yeah.

526

And also they're like, man, I also

wanted this to cover up , these

527

circles I have underneath my

eyes, which isn't a big deal.

528

That's blood supply to your eyes.

529

But you start seeing it more

as you get older because you

530

lost collagen and elastin.

531

In fact.

532

So all those things are more fleshed out.

533

Right?

534

Yeah.

535

So it covers that up when people

start seeing it and they want to

536

get filler to cover it up, the

filler can actually magnify it.

537

I've noticed that with clients.

538

It's more times than not.

539

It doesn't look good.

540

So what I tell them,

they'll go get it dissolved.

541

I have like a guy send everybody to

get it resolved and They go get it

542

dissolved and they, then I'm like, I

encourage people to get a fat transfer.

543

Yeah.

544

And then.

545

Just as they take it.

546

Um, there's different doctors that

have different methods of doing it.

547

I heard that some doctors now do

it when you're awake, which I have.

548

If they don't have to remove the

fat underneath it, I've heard.

549

I know there's one doctor in Marietta.

550

Does it while you're awake?

551

What.

552

I'm like, oh my God.

553

But usually they have to put you under.

554

So I want to, I want to tell

everyone, listening this.

555

A lot of people think like, oh my

gosh, that just sounds so scary.

556

But if you're already considering that

you're going to have to keep doing

557

it and you're going to have to keep

doing it and you have to keep doing it.

558

And guess what?

559

Fat transfer is permanent.

560

Do it once and do it right.

561

Yep.

562

And so there are a handful of

people that all of a sudden their

563

body just doesn't take right there.

564

And the body absorbs the fat and they

call it a day, like, okay, you're just

565

not somebody who had this accepts it.

566

But once you have fat.

567

Your body develops a blood supply

to that fat to keep it there.

568

It is brilliant.

569

And it's like a one

and done kind of thing.

570

Yeah.

571

So that's good to know.

572

Some people just don't want

to go under the knife because

573

they don't want the anesthesia.

574

They want to swap the.

575

Going through the liver and

having to deal with that.

576

So I tell people like, Hey, if you

ever considering like, you know, a

577

breast lift, do you ever consider

any other like hernia due to the

578

some time do it at the same time?

579

I do think the doctors, especially

if they have permissions at

580

the same hospital will do it.

581

They'll coordinate.

582

Ease of K you're already paying for.

583

At seizure.

584

Yeah.

585

And if you could have, or aren't in the

seizure for something like you're having

586

like a knee replacement, like, Hey,

can I do a fat transfer under my eyes?

587

I know it sounds crazy.

588

Yes.

589

You absolutely can, but I will tell you.

590

If you're having an excitement port

like a knee replacement that you

591

have to, you need to find a doctor

who has permit that you liked that

592

has permissions at the hospital.

593

Don't do this the other way around.

594

I get mad at you.

595

The plastic surgeon that you like

that can't do the surgery that.

596

That happens a lot.

597

That makes sense.

598

Yeah.

599

The doctor's not going to go get

the permission at the hospital.

600

Just to do just for you.

601

Yeah.

602

Absolutely.

603

Yeah.

604

I think people hear the word

surgery and get spooked and, uh,

605

It's like, not that big of a deal.

606

It's not.

607

If it's something that really

bothers you, and you're just looking

608

at yourself in the mirror all the

time, you just hate it so much.

609

Or you had like, oh my goodness.

610

I know people who have just

don't like their jaws, more like

611

reassessed and all of a sudden

they think something's wrong with.

612

They think they're like, oh, the

big nose or something like that.

613

I'm.

614

I'm like, I think they look beautiful.

615

Yeah, but all of a sudden it w what it

is that they just, maybe I know a guy.

616

Oh man.

617

He's so famous.

618

And I can't say his name.

619

He was filming here.

620

He's from LA.

621

And I was like, I said,

do you have any implants?

622

And I, he, I was doing

some electrical on him.

623

Oh, he's doing laser hair removal.

624

I said, do you have any implants?

625

And he was 22.

626

He was here filming.

627

Okay.

628

And, , he said, oh, I actually

do have a chin implant.

629

And I was like, what?

630

And I had never felt like, well,

I might've felt when I never

631

known it was a chin implant.

632

And he was the one who told

me, he's like, oh my gosh.

633

He sh he showed me a picture.

634

What?

635

He used to look like a turtle.

636

He kind of did.

637

And so he got it.

638

Oh, you know what

639

now?

640

We spent, yes, not him.

641

Um,

642

not him.

643

Um, but I was like, oh my gosh,

just like gave this guy so much

644

confidence to have, , you know, he had.

645

The rest of his Jelic right.

646

So, okay.

647

So there's lots of

things that can be done.

648

Yeah.

649

Yeah.

650

Well, I prefer people like, so it's funny.

651

Cause you went, you think that like

skipping all the intense stuff and

652

going straight to Plaza fiberglass.

653

It was extreme.

654

Like I think people just

skip all the filler.

655

And just go, just go

straight to fat transfer.

656

Yeah.

657

I mean, if you could afford it and you can

take the time and do it, it makes sense.

658

And there's so much bad filler.

659

We've all seen it.

660

Yep.

661

And I think people can make themselves

look older than they actually are with

662

improper relationship with her injector.

663

I agree.

664

And when you start looking for

fat transfers, there's some

665

doctors call it fat repositioning.

666

Okay.

667

So either war, there are lots of people.

668

Uh, it is, it is a thing now.

669

Awesome.

670

Donate fat towards.

671

From my thighs.

672

My family for those in need.

673

They do take it from.

674

I'm philanthropist everybody.

675

Okay, next question is.

676

Best way to communicate problem

areas and treatment needs.

677

, to your esthetician or germ.

678

To I would, before you go see a lot of

people get nervous when they walk in one

679

of the reasons I rent space in the place,

different spaces, I was just so welcoming.

680

Yeah.

681

And the reason why is that it's called.

682

, White coat syndrome.

683

White coat syndrome is when

people just get nervous and they

684

just saw the suddenly thing.

685

That that person is their boss.

686

Like, no, that person works for you.

687

Yeah, that is that that's not your boss.

688

If you don't like something that's any

doc, any doctor says, if you have stage

689

four breast cancer, you don't like your

oncologist says get another opinion.

690

Absolutely.

691

It's just like they, that

is white coat syndrome.

692

You do what they have to do.

693

Oh, they said I had to

do chemo in this net.

694

I'm like, well, cool.

695

Take their opinion.

696

They're an expert.

697

But you don't have to deal

with anything that they say

698

same goes, let's dumb it down.

699

Same goes with like medical aesthetics.

700

So I tell people who just naturally

get nervous and they do it.

701

They think they're also being

judged when they walk in there.

702

Just write it all down.

703

Yeah, it's fine.

704

Also, if you just let people, we're

forget, some people will bring it

705

back a product, write it all down,

and then I will tell you, and I always

706

follow up just to me personally, I

follow up with an email if you want to

707

follow up, but it's ask your provider.

708

Whoever's talking to you.

709

To follow up with email too,

and also bring a notepad.

710

Yeah.

711

I talk really fast in a consultation,

but I know that I do this.

712

So I say, I'm going to follow up.

713

You don't have to remember any of this

with bullet points and links to products.

714

And like I say, half the people that

talk with me don't even do anything.

715

Yeah.

716

'cause I just want to give them my, my

job is just to be a vessel of information.

717

Yes.

718

That's why I started my own practice

because I just wanted to be more

719

ethical about it because a lot

of people just don't know this.

720

Why would they know these things?

721

Absolutely.

722

And there's.

723

It's a predatory industry.

724

There's so much, like we

said, bad information.

725

Yes.

726

So that makes sense.

727

Let's get your mind clear prior to your

appointment and relax and just like it.

728

But the thing is, you're going

to go into this practice.

729

They're trying to sell you stuff.

730

You're going to go in thinking

that you want, you know what?

731

I just wanted to a little chemical peel

and all of a sudden, they're going to tell

732

you, you should get filler in your jaw.

733

Yeah.

734

Chin have this bump on your nose,

let's raise your brows and do some

735

sort of like RF microneedling.

736

Yeah.

737

And make what the fuck

I just came in thing.

738

And granted, you probably don't know

what would treat the concern you came in

739

for, but at the same time, when people

start talking about filler and Botox,

740

that happens at some doctor's offices.

741

So a.

742

Yeah.

743

Yeah, that's good to stand your ground.

744

You're the boss.

745

Yeah, I love that.

746

, Next question.

747

Best way to remove makeup is.

748

Oh, dot.

749

Ready?

750

Yeah.

751

GrapeSEED oil.

752

Oh, okay.

753

Yes, that'd be great to see.

754

The wheel has a very low molecular weight.

755

So it's, it's safe on like, , an

acne will break you out.

756

Grape CDOT is also is

called a carrier oil.

757

It is naturally cleansing.

758

I will say GrapeSEED oil.

759

It also goes to rant pit.

760

Some people know this.

761

He goes rancid easily.

762

I don't keep it in your shower.

763

I'm just keep it in like

a cool dry, dark place.

764

And so I keep it in.

765

So that's how I take off makeup.

766

Yes.

767

And so I will use a little.

768

Circular foam makeup pet.

769

And so I have a ripe off

my, all my makeup with that.

770

And then I use my hands.

771

I use my hand soap, I wash

it and I keep wiping it.

772

And mine's white.

773

So I keep, no, I keep wiping

it until it's not okay.

774

I just keep washing it.

775

YPO washing YPN.

776

Yeah.

777

And if you don't want to wash your

face again, after that, you're fine.

778

But you don't need a separate disc.

779

It goes back to I creams.

780

You do not need a separate eye makeup

remover that you do with your cleanser.

781

Good cleanser, you should be

able to use around your eyes.

782

Okay.

783

Good to know.

784

Masks are so fun.

785

What should we look for if we want

them to actually do something for us?

786

Great question.

787

So.

788

The best thing you can ever do is

to prep your skin before the mass.

789

I want you to scrub the

shit out of your face.

790

Don't be afraid to touch your face.

791

Usually a lot of us learned this

from our moms about like, oh,

792

don't touch your face too much.

793

Just plat on your skincare.

794

Oh, my gosh.

795

Get in there.

796

You should be hot pink or you

should just have like a glow to you.

797

After you have exfoliated your face,

you should be exploiting twice a week.

798

Okay.

799

I.

800

I do it on Wednesday and Sunday, like

clockwork, but there's also when I water.

801

Outdoor plants, indoor plants.

802

This is when I exfoliate.

803

I have like my things

that's part of your routine.

804

Yeah.

805

We'll get to the habit thing in a minute.

806

It's so important.

807

When you get all that dead skin off,

it's the same thing when it comes to

808

like retinol use people like, oh my gosh,

I started using retinol or tretinoin

809

when I started flicking like crazy.

810

I'm like what helps

with cellular turnover?

811

Yeah.

812

So you, of course, it's

going to flip this.

813

The flakes, let me get out of here.

814

whether you want to use like some

kind of enzyme mass, which is going

815

to eat the dead skin, or whether

you're gonna have a moisture mask,

816

get all that dead skin off first.

817

Wipe your face and then put the mask on.

818

So if it's going to be, you

want like a brightening mask.

819

Look for things like pumpkin or papaya, it

should be a little spicy when it goes on.

820

You want to do more moisture

look for something that has, of

821

course, like hyleronic acid in it.

822

Yeah.

823

Now, if you want to do a DIY mask, cause

you're on a tight budget, y'all use

824

the inside of a banana peel and just

wipe it on your face or mix it with

825

just like a little bit of a Malva Cado.

826

Like those, like the banana peel, honey.

827

Honey says vegan.

828

Um,

829

how do you know if someone's vegan?

830

They'll tell you over.

831

And to over and over again.

832

Same way, you know, if they've run the

New York marathon or if they're skydiver.

833

Or if they do CrossFit.

834

Yeah.

835

Or if they're in the

military, They will tell you.

836

I'd have to ask.

837

That's funny.

838

Um, it makes sense.

839

Yeah.

840

There's so many DIY

masks you can do at home.

841

Anything that's orange carrot.

842

Like carrot juice, like just

like putting that on your face.

843

Um, yams, like putting it on your face.

844

Anything is orange has vitamin a

vitamin a is a skincare vitamin

845

retinol, retinae, vitamin a anything.

846

Oh, my gosh, such a, this smells

like a bag of rotten assholes.

847

But

848

would you wait for.

849

Well, I did a lost to live in LA.

850

Sorry about that in a minute.

851

Um, I will say Brazilian, you know,

sometimes if someone's just worked out,

852

I'm doing Brazilian laser hair removal.

853

You know, Hey, it's nice to

shout out before you do anything.

854

Thank you.

855

We appreciate you.

856

Um, but you can, it's

called seabuckthorn oil.

857

Seabuckthorn is a superfood.

858

It is in some skincare.

859

You'll see more of that sea buckthorn

asked his Anthony's are all things that

860

are just more than the orange family.

861

Okay.

862

All those things are really good.

863

Like that is such a good mask to put on.

864

You are bright orange.

865

You need to remove it

with that GrapeSEED oil.

866

It's like.

867

You can remove oil with a

wheel, which is kinda cool.

868

That was cool.

869

And it's great.

870

So.

871

It's October.

872

People are going to have their

hands on a lot of pumpkins.

873

Should we be taking these pumpkin

guts and rubbing them on our face?

874

Oh my gosh.

875

Absolutely.

876

Pumpkin puree is fantastic for you

actually will feel a little tingling.

877

Pumpkin puree.

878

Really good enzymes.

879

It's just like little

Pacman eating the dead skin.

880

That's what insight mass does.

881

Enzymes are like little Pacman.

882

That just eat the dead skin.

883

Oh, I love that.

884

Okay.

885

So the best way to get something

out of your face mask is to

886

do a little MES on Plaza.

887

And just prep that skin prep it.

888

Yep.

889

Okay.

890

Fabulous.

891

, next question.

892

The most important step and an anti-aging

skincare routine besides SPF is oh.

893

Tretinoin.

894

That's what I would have that hands down.

895

Okay.

896

You know, some people just have

tried tretinoin and even if a

897

slid, just like the lowest dose.

898

It's a two for those who don't know this.

899

Uh, tretinoin is a prescription.

900

You need to get it from your dermatologist

and any dermatologist will write this

901

for you because it is the number one.

902

Anti-aging that you can do, but

it is the most preventative and it

903

actually is, is so good for you.

904

So good for you and Hey dude, you

don't have to just do fake face, neck

905

decolletage in the back of your hands.

906

Um, and if you could work up to using

it every night, but even if you're just

907

using it like a couple times a week.

908

Fantastic.

909

It's fine, but even if you don't want

to do the Trent Nolan road route, if you

910

have tried it in retinol is the way to go.

911

Great.

912

Some people say, I will

have a little retinol.

913

In my, uh, in my nighttime moisturizer.

914

You're not getting that much.

915

A lot of it, but that is

all your skin can handle.

916

I'm proud of you.

917

Yeah.

918

Yes.

919

You can put retinol around your eyes.

920

Yeah.

921

, if that is good to know my favorite.

922

Is do you know,

923

from France.

924

So pretty when you say it.

925

Say it again.

926

no, I don't.

927

Um, it's like a really famous,

like Colt following French retinol.

928

And it's like 10 euros.

929

When you get in France, you can buy it

on French pharmacy.com for like $20.

930

Wow.

931

Um, but it's more gentle

than trend to know in.

932

Okay.

933

But it is same And I

have sex with that shit.

934

So alternate, like a tube of that

with a tube of like 0.05 to nine.

935

That's fantastic.

936

And some people have asked me before,

like, So that always goes on at night.

937

Um, and it goes on dry skin.

938

So, I will say if you're actually doing

the grape seed oil white, make sure

939

that people like don't have to wash it.

940

If I'm doing the retinol at

night, this is a great question.

941

I'm doing the retinol at night.

942

Do I need, or if I'm sitting doing.

943

Um, retinol and I, and I've just

done it like an oil cleanse.

944

Oh, oil block.

945

These portion of retinol Mike.

946

That is so good.

947

That, yeah, it's a great question.

948

Like I w I just take my towel and

just like, really wipe it off.

949

You don't need to wash your face more.

950

Okay.

951

Just make sure it's just nice and dry.

952

Okay.

953

Perfect.

954

Um, all right.

955

Spill the tea.

956

What percentage of straight

dudes are getting Botox?

957

So.

958

What I do, I'm medical institution.

959

So I don't, I don't, I'm not injector.

960

Uh, that would be a better

question for an injector.

961

Not a lot.

962

Okay.

963

I read this one and I was

like, that's a micro question.

964

That, um, yeah, that would.

965

Yeah.

966

Mike would be able to answer that.

967

But, uh, but not a lot in, and not enough.

968

I would say get some

Botox guys, step it up.

969

I have someone bringing their

husband to me next week.

970

Just for like microneedling.

971

It's annoying sometimes.

972

Well, sometimes people just don't want

to hear it from their wives or that.

973

That makes sense.

974

They don't you stereotypically straight

men just don't want to be told that.

975

But if they hear it from me, but I am,

I'm so proud of friend of mine from

976

middle school, I've been working on him.

977

I've done two microneedling treatments,

a little laser hair removal on his neck.

978

And I've done some laser

treatments around his eyes.

979

And I was so proud because usually

it's when someone's usually it's when

980

they get divorced or there's a breakup.

981

And all of a sudden they're looking

at themselves in the mirror and like

982

he got back to the gym, he bought a

motorcycle, like total midlife crisis.

983

Right.

984

But a motorcycle got back to the gym.

985

His he's an empty nester.

986

He had kids when he was young.

987

Emptiness or his boys are gone.

988

And so he started dating.

989

And so he was like, what should I do?

990

He's like, I don't want her to I'm like.

991

Let's microneedle.

992

Yeah.

993

Yeah.

994

She's probably heard of it

and she'd be proud of you.

995

So I wish more straight men,

but just like actually look in

996

the mirror and be like, Hmm.

997

That's changed if I address it.

998

Just the biggest, the

biggest, um, and why admins?

999

Uh, stereotypically age,

more like a fine wine.

00:32:19,478 --> 00:32:19,868

Do you know why.

00:32:20,078 --> 00:32:21,608

Cause they wash their

face with the same thing.

00:32:21,608 --> 00:32:22,628

They watch their ball sack with.

00:32:23,318 --> 00:32:24,128

They're shaving.

00:32:24,458 --> 00:32:26,828

They're exfoliating all the time.

00:32:28,778 --> 00:32:30,518

That's why they get the

deep forehead wrinkles.

00:32:30,518 --> 00:32:32,438

And like the rest of their

face looks like good.

00:32:32,498 --> 00:32:36,728

And for, for people who shaved their

legs, Like are people who don't like.

00:32:36,788 --> 00:32:40,058

Like men, like, let's say you have a

man, let's just say stereotypical woman.

00:32:40,568 --> 00:32:40,868

Right.

00:32:41,378 --> 00:32:44,348

Um, you're going to have

like work exfoliating legs.

00:32:45,758 --> 00:32:48,728

So that's why people like

dermaplaning more, much, much.

00:32:50,588 --> 00:32:51,128

Um,

00:32:53,558 --> 00:32:55,088

But yeah, . It comes down to exfoliating.

00:32:55,148 --> 00:32:55,478

Okay.

00:32:55,538 --> 00:32:55,748

Yeah.

00:32:55,868 --> 00:32:56,258

Okay.

00:32:56,378 --> 00:32:56,828

Good to know.

00:32:57,308 --> 00:32:59,108

Um, ah, do we even answer the question?

00:32:59,708 --> 00:33:00,668

Oh, that was a Botox question.

00:33:01,838 --> 00:33:03,428

More moisturizer sunscreen.

00:33:03,818 --> 00:33:05,348

Yeah, especially at Baldwin.

00:33:05,648 --> 00:33:06,578

Uh, yes, I agree.

00:33:06,668 --> 00:33:07,568

We love a bald king.

00:33:08,018 --> 00:33:10,718

Um, That's not sarcasm.

00:33:10,748 --> 00:33:11,318

I told you when they do.

00:33:12,218 --> 00:33:14,558

I was my type, my entire life.

00:33:14,588 --> 00:33:16,088

Yeah, until the guy just started dating.

00:33:16,118 --> 00:33:16,658

Oh really?

00:33:16,658 --> 00:33:16,838

Yeah.

00:33:16,868 --> 00:33:20,648

Who has long Willie Nelson braids

really sexiest thing on the planet.

00:33:20,798 --> 00:33:21,728

Interesting.

00:33:21,848 --> 00:33:22,148

Yeah.

00:33:22,388 --> 00:33:23,498

You flipped it and reversed it.

00:33:24,638 --> 00:33:25,208

I love it.

00:33:25,388 --> 00:33:26,258

My midlife crisis.

00:33:26,378 --> 00:33:27,638

Oh, I love it.

00:33:27,998 --> 00:33:28,658

Cheers to that.

00:33:30,038 --> 00:33:31,118

Um, okay.

00:33:31,388 --> 00:33:34,148

Does Botox become less

effective over time?

00:33:34,178 --> 00:33:37,678

And if so, because of aging

or tolerance to it, no, it

00:33:37,678 --> 00:33:39,238

doesn't become the Botox itself.

00:33:39,238 --> 00:33:40,378

Doesn't become less effective.

00:33:40,378 --> 00:33:42,868

And if someone thinks that happened,

they might've switched injectors.

00:33:43,258 --> 00:33:43,888

That might.

00:33:44,548 --> 00:33:45,898

Reconstitute it a little differently.

00:33:45,928 --> 00:33:46,018

Yeah.

00:33:46,048 --> 00:33:47,668

Yeah, I know what you're saying.

00:33:48,808 --> 00:33:49,422

It happens.

00:33:49,422 --> 00:33:52,332

People who were in their twenties that

started doing the preventative Botox.

00:33:53,022 --> 00:33:54,792

There are some injectors that

say, just start doing that.

00:33:54,792 --> 00:33:55,872

So doing that baby Botox.

00:33:55,872 --> 00:33:56,082

So then your.

00:33:56,202 --> 00:33:58,722

Turn your muscle not to get too strong,

but you'll have plastic surgeons.

00:33:58,722 --> 00:34:00,582

I just heard one, my favorite

one to talk about this.

00:34:00,882 --> 00:34:02,892

He's like, you're not going

to let your muscles develop.

00:34:03,162 --> 00:34:04,212

He's like, what do think

is going to happen?

00:34:04,332 --> 00:34:06,552

If you don't let that muscle developed,

it's just going to start getting heavy.

00:34:07,152 --> 00:34:10,002

He's like he was he's he's very

much against preventative Botox.

00:34:10,032 --> 00:34:10,482

Yeah.

00:34:10,661 --> 00:34:12,252

People should start

getting a little bit of it.

00:34:12,641 --> 00:34:15,882

When just, if they just, if there's

nothing else that can be done.

00:34:16,062 --> 00:34:16,452

Yeah.

00:34:16,512 --> 00:34:19,391

And it can just like, especially

people have that really strong Eleven's

00:34:19,391 --> 00:34:22,032

that muscle, especially that so

many teachers talk to me about this.

00:34:22,902 --> 00:34:26,351

Um, but also knowing an injector who knows

how to just put just feather a little bit.

00:34:26,351 --> 00:34:27,402

So you still have some movement.

00:34:27,581 --> 00:34:28,032

Yeah.

00:34:28,212 --> 00:34:28,902

Bless her heart.

00:34:28,902 --> 00:34:29,772

Reese Witherspoon.

00:34:30,101 --> 00:34:33,822

Oh, Who I heard is just an angel, I

saw her at a couple of movies where

00:34:33,822 --> 00:34:36,702

they put so much Botox right in

the middle, but none on the sides.

00:34:38,562 --> 00:34:40,931

For example all the time,

these will pumpkin browsers.

00:34:41,202 --> 00:34:43,542

Little lies and I'm like, just

someone talked someone who's

00:34:43,542 --> 00:34:44,772

got to talk to her about this.

00:34:45,382 --> 00:34:47,782

, and I'd probably say most

celebrities get Botox and a little,

00:34:47,842 --> 00:34:49,192

little nip tuck here and there.

00:34:50,181 --> 00:34:51,922

But it's just like that,

that one was obvious.

00:34:52,012 --> 00:34:53,722

That one was so obvious

because the session.

00:34:53,722 --> 00:34:56,391

We're just frozen and then right over her.

00:34:56,661 --> 00:34:59,992

Um, Sarah, Blakely's another one where

I'm like, you can afford the best.

00:35:00,292 --> 00:35:02,212

Injection artists that exists.

00:35:02,272 --> 00:35:03,772

How has this happened?

00:35:03,922 --> 00:35:04,042

Yep.

00:35:04,522 --> 00:35:05,242

, but it's interesting.

00:35:05,272 --> 00:35:06,142

I a.

00:35:06,922 --> 00:35:08,752

I think I was 30.

00:35:09,382 --> 00:35:12,352

35 or 36 when I got

Botox for the first time.

00:35:12,682 --> 00:35:15,562

And I was very, my friends listening to

this episode are going to laugh at me.

00:35:16,252 --> 00:35:17,332

I was kind of like annoyingly.

00:35:17,332 --> 00:35:20,452

Self-righteous about not doing

it for a long time, but it's.

00:35:20,902 --> 00:35:24,172

The preventative baby Botox

always felt wrong to me.

00:35:24,412 --> 00:35:28,402

And it wasn't until I really was like,

okay, I'm seeing some soft lines in my

00:35:28,432 --> 00:35:31,342

forehead that don't go away when I relax.

00:35:31,432 --> 00:35:31,672

Totally.

00:35:31,672 --> 00:35:35,002

So that's when I started to dip

my toes into some subtle Botoxing.

00:35:35,212 --> 00:35:35,332

Yeah.

00:35:35,722 --> 00:35:39,022

But when people ask me, like, I don't

know, like when is it time to get Botox?

00:35:39,022 --> 00:35:42,682

My answer is like one to three

years before you are asking,

00:35:42,682 --> 00:35:43,762

should I be getting Botox?

00:35:45,892 --> 00:35:47,152

I'm looking at you now, like you have.

00:35:47,542 --> 00:35:48,712

He is moving over your eyebrows.

00:35:48,712 --> 00:35:50,032

You're still be able to expand my boat.

00:35:50,092 --> 00:35:52,552

I saw Mike two weeks ago,

almost two weeks ago.

00:35:52,552 --> 00:35:53,092

Exactly.

00:35:53,122 --> 00:35:54,682

So it's like fresh it.

00:35:54,682 --> 00:35:55,432

It looks great.

00:35:55,462 --> 00:35:56,182

He's so good.

00:35:56,212 --> 00:35:56,722

He's so good.

00:35:56,752 --> 00:35:56,962

Yeah.

00:35:57,022 --> 00:35:57,292

Yep.

00:35:57,352 --> 00:35:57,592

Yeah.

00:35:57,622 --> 00:35:58,042

I agree.

00:35:58,072 --> 00:35:59,392

That's what everybody

has to find themselves.

00:35:59,572 --> 00:36:00,112

Themselves.

00:36:00,532 --> 00:36:02,602

Um, well, they need to find if

they're, if you're listening and

00:36:02,602 --> 00:36:03,952

you're in Atlanta, just go to Mike.

00:36:04,102 --> 00:36:04,222

Yeah.

00:36:04,522 --> 00:36:07,702

But he's going to be on at some point,

so we can talk all things injectables.

00:36:07,792 --> 00:36:10,792

He's going to talk about he like he's

he's I, I have had patients that I've

00:36:10,792 --> 00:36:13,282

told, like, you need to buy a new

face device to tighten the muscles.

00:36:13,312 --> 00:36:13,762

Yeah.

00:36:14,482 --> 00:36:15,532

We're just talking about skin here, right?

00:36:15,592 --> 00:36:15,952

Yeah.

00:36:16,012 --> 00:36:17,962

And like, I'm not a fan of threads.

00:36:18,112 --> 00:36:18,772

He does threads.

00:36:18,818 --> 00:36:22,328

. But like he, but that his bread and

butter is injectables and he's an expert.

00:36:22,358 --> 00:36:22,928

He's a PA.

00:36:23,018 --> 00:36:23,258

Yeah.

00:36:23,318 --> 00:36:26,588

So he has, he does his thing

and I've seen what works for me.

00:36:26,678 --> 00:36:27,038

Yeah.

00:36:27,098 --> 00:36:28,598

And so it works for my patients.

00:36:28,658 --> 00:36:28,928

Yeah.

00:36:28,988 --> 00:36:31,178

Because I can't do Botox and filler.

00:36:31,268 --> 00:36:33,218

I can have it done for

free anywhere in this town.

00:36:33,488 --> 00:36:34,268

I just choose not to.

00:36:34,478 --> 00:36:34,598

Yeah.

00:36:34,628 --> 00:36:36,428

Because I know that the

other things that work.

00:36:36,488 --> 00:36:36,908

Absolutely.

00:36:36,908 --> 00:36:39,338

So they can talk to me about sort, or

they can go to him, but he and I are

00:36:39,368 --> 00:36:41,078

friends and he's, I'm a huge fan of his.

00:36:41,138 --> 00:36:41,498

Yeah.

00:36:41,648 --> 00:36:44,258

And it's just, I'm not a fan of threads.

00:36:44,348 --> 00:36:44,708

Yeah.

00:36:44,768 --> 00:36:46,058

I agree with that.

00:36:46,058 --> 00:36:47,138

As an uneducated.

00:36:47,558 --> 00:36:50,948

Party in this conversation supposed to

dissolve and they don't always dissolve.

00:36:50,948 --> 00:36:52,538

They do produce a little bit of collagen.

00:36:52,898 --> 00:36:54,518

Um, but sometimes they just it's.

00:36:54,518 --> 00:36:55,328

It's it's risky.

00:36:55,688 --> 00:36:56,198

Yeah.

00:36:56,348 --> 00:37:00,158

Well, and you, I had been to who I

will describe as a predator for my

00:37:00,158 --> 00:37:06,008

first two appointments of injectables

and I got hard sold on Sculptra.

00:37:06,038 --> 00:37:06,218

Yup.

00:37:06,788 --> 00:37:10,028

And then I saw Mandy and she was

like, oh, those are like microplastics

00:37:10,028 --> 00:37:11,018

that never break down in your skin.

00:37:11,018 --> 00:37:11,828

And I was like, what the fuck?

00:37:11,858 --> 00:37:12,398

Fuck.

00:37:13,658 --> 00:37:15,068

I don't want that in my fucking thing.

00:37:15,068 --> 00:37:16,148

It has a cult following.

00:37:16,148 --> 00:37:18,278

Some people will do sculpture and

sculpture and that's it because

00:37:18,278 --> 00:37:21,098

it does Purdue because of what's

in, it does produce a tiny, tiny,

00:37:21,098 --> 00:37:22,208

tiny, little bit of collagen.

00:37:22,748 --> 00:37:25,838

Um, but because you cannot

dissolve it besides even what's

00:37:25,838 --> 00:37:26,828

in it, forget all that part.

00:37:26,978 --> 00:37:30,008

The fact that you can't dissolve, if

you don't like it, you're stuck with.

00:37:30,578 --> 00:37:33,428

And people think that that,

that fillers always break down.

00:37:33,458 --> 00:37:34,988

No, they don't I'll pay people.

00:37:35,168 --> 00:37:36,758

I can tell people who have

a ton of Chik-Fil-A like

00:37:36,758 --> 00:37:37,868

haven't had it in two years.

00:37:38,438 --> 00:37:39,728

And yeah, you have slow.

00:37:39,968 --> 00:37:41,588

Voluma supposed to break

down like 18 months.

00:37:42,398 --> 00:37:43,898

No, it's still, there can

be there for 10 years.

00:37:43,928 --> 00:37:47,618

It could be like, It does not like any

plastic will tell you that when they go

00:37:47,618 --> 00:37:49,148

into a facelift, they'll have filler.

00:37:49,148 --> 00:37:50,618

That's like they could be 15 years old.

00:37:50,618 --> 00:37:51,308

It's still sitting there.

00:37:51,428 --> 00:37:51,938

Fuck.

00:37:51,968 --> 00:37:52,898

There's no promise.

00:37:52,898 --> 00:37:57,338

And so with that being said, Even if you

didn't, he had filler and you didn't like

00:37:57,338 --> 00:37:58,508

it and you want to broke, break it down.

00:37:58,988 --> 00:38:01,028

But with sculpture, you cannot.

00:38:01,118 --> 00:38:02,288

Yeah, that's terrifying.

00:38:02,438 --> 00:38:04,268

And they don't tell you that when you're.

00:38:05,168 --> 00:38:06,548

Oh, how do I look younger?

00:38:06,578 --> 00:38:09,368

But it will say people who like sculpture,

sculpture I've, I've seen injectors

00:38:09,368 --> 00:38:10,448

to do a really good job with it.

00:38:10,718 --> 00:38:12,998

Stay with the injector that

does a good job with it.

00:38:13,388 --> 00:38:15,968

We're just looking at their reviews

and just ask, you know, yeah.

00:38:15,998 --> 00:38:18,068

A lot of injectors, especially if you're

new to a certain town, you don't know

00:38:18,068 --> 00:38:20,168

who to go to speak to their patients.

00:38:20,318 --> 00:38:23,468

C before and after always asked her before

and after photos, especially with school.

00:38:24,128 --> 00:38:25,388

And there's some really good people.

00:38:25,438 --> 00:38:29,368

Um, what's the biggest mistake that

people are making with their skin.

00:38:31,618 --> 00:38:34,648

Waiting until they're in

their sixties and seventies.

00:38:34,948 --> 00:38:35,248

Ooh.

00:38:35,788 --> 00:38:35,968

Yeah.

00:38:36,388 --> 00:38:39,028

If people, if they're in, if

you're in your sixties, seventies,

00:38:39,028 --> 00:38:42,068

eighties, nineties, listening

to this, , when you start then.

00:38:42,608 --> 00:38:43,658

Uh, with anything.

00:38:43,928 --> 00:38:47,258

It's just, this is going to take

so much more effort and I break

00:38:47,258 --> 00:38:48,608

people's hearts all the time.

00:38:49,058 --> 00:38:50,858

Of being like, uh, the, the.

00:38:51,038 --> 00:38:53,978

They'll say like so-and-so only

did three laser treatments and

00:38:53,978 --> 00:38:55,148

I'm like, you need like eight.

00:38:55,178 --> 00:38:55,658

Yeah.

00:38:55,718 --> 00:38:58,658

, and it's when people also show me

like, oh, I had a lady who's in

00:38:58,658 --> 00:39:01,448

her seventies, show me a picture

of her in a bikini, on a beach.

00:39:01,448 --> 00:39:03,758

When she was in her twenties, she

was a, um, like a beauty queen.

00:39:04,448 --> 00:39:05,858

And she, this is 50 years later.

00:39:05,858 --> 00:39:07,748

She never done anything to her skin.

00:39:08,438 --> 00:39:11,108

And they also, I think there's also

expectations of thinking that you're

00:39:11,108 --> 00:39:14,618

going to go pay sometimes a few thousand

dollars for series of treatments.

00:39:15,008 --> 00:39:16,178

And you're going to expect.

00:39:16,448 --> 00:39:17,108

To do.

00:39:17,348 --> 00:39:18,488

To have these certain results.

00:39:18,518 --> 00:39:19,178

That's a mistake.

00:39:19,178 --> 00:39:22,238

A lot of people make too is just, we,

uh, in, in medical settings, orthotics

00:39:22,238 --> 00:39:23,648

in general, we compare it to Dennis.

00:39:23,648 --> 00:39:25,388

Like you're not going to go get

your teeth cleaned twice a year,

00:39:25,388 --> 00:39:26,468

not brush and floss your teeth.

00:39:26,528 --> 00:39:26,798

Right.

00:39:27,338 --> 00:39:30,548

I can't believe that the tenants didn't

do their job, not seeing results.

00:39:31,028 --> 00:39:33,578

No, we're there for some heavy

lifting, but the most important

00:39:33,578 --> 00:39:34,808

thing that you do is at home.

00:39:34,988 --> 00:39:38,828

So I guess like a two part answer to that

is not waiting until then to start doing

00:39:38,828 --> 00:39:41,708

some, to injure your skin, just like

you wouldn't put off going to the gym.

00:39:41,798 --> 00:39:42,008

Yeah.

00:39:42,068 --> 00:39:43,958

We know me to work out,

even if you just hate it.

00:39:43,958 --> 00:39:44,318

I hate it.

00:39:44,378 --> 00:39:44,708

Yeah.

00:39:44,858 --> 00:39:46,508

But I do it anyways

because it was good for me.

00:39:46,568 --> 00:39:46,748

Yeah.

00:39:46,838 --> 00:39:50,258

So it was the biggest is the it's

the organ that is forward facing to

00:39:50,258 --> 00:39:51,698

everybody's what we see all the time.

00:39:51,968 --> 00:39:53,378

And it is the biggest organ on our body.