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Degrees vs Skills: Reimagining How to Define Your Work Pedigree with Kelly Ryan Bailey
Episode 2915th May 2023 • Lead at the Top of Your Game • Karan Ferrell-Rhodes and Shockingly Different Leadership
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Do you feel bad about not having a college degree? When working with “educated” colleagues, do you have “imposter syndrome” and feel you’re not qualified to offer input? Having a bachelor’s, master’s, or Ph.D. is great, but not having all those qualifications doesn’t mean you can't be successful and at the top of your game.

Kelly Ryan Bailey is the founder and CEO of ‘Skills Baby." She is a chief innovation officer, chief AI strategist, global skills evangelist, and transformation leader. She is dedicated to supporting organizations to create more equitable hiring procedures and empowering people to find rewarding employment and ways to live. In today’s episode, she talks about skills vs. degrees and how to stay on top of your professional career using the experiences you’ve gained from real life.


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Kelly Ryan Bailey is an entrepreneur, speaker, advisor, and investor. Her nearly 20-year professional career has centered on advocating for skills as the labor market's primary currency and leveraging data and technology to develop cutting-edge hiring and learning solutions based on skills for individuals, businesses, educators, governments, and initiatives.

She is also the founder & CEO of “Skills Baby,” the home of her podcast ' “Let’s Talk About Skills, Baby,” which seeks life skills leaders use in their journey to success, and “Got Skills,” a podcast that guides people to identify skills and how to communicate them.

Kelly believes that we acquire abilities through all of our life experiences, not just our formal work and education. While Employers value these life skills the most, they also aid us in overcoming obstacles on our personal and professional paths.


1.    What does being an entrepreneur at a young age feel like?

2.    What does the FOS universe do?

3.    Personal life and professional life.

4.    How do real-world experiences help to move on professionally?

5.    Why do people feel ashamed of their superpower stories?


[03.55] Kelly’s family and educational background.

[05.56] Kelly’s experiences when she was in college.

[10.05] Kelly explains what they do in the FOS universe.

[17.31] How FOS universe helps people to be a leader.

[23.21] Kelly’s entry into the LATTOYG Playbook: Don’t be ashamed of your power story. You might not achieve a lot but you achieved something.

[24.58] Kelly shares what helps her to stay on the top of her game.

[35:00] Signature Segment: Karan’s Take


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