My guest today is Charlotte Watts, owner of Made on the Street. Charlotte makes stylish, affordable, sustainable clothing for babies and children. Charlotte set up her business in lockdown, teaching herself to sew, and sourcing original fabrics and prints online.
Charlotte works closely with her customers, which informs the designs and patterns she makes. She also has a really interesting model of encouraging and incentivizing customers to promote her business, and shares some great tips about how to make this work for you.
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Vicki Weinberg:Charlotte Watts is the owner of Made on the Street.
Vicki Weinberg:Charlotte makes stylish, affordable, sustainable clothing
Vicki Weinberg:for babies and children.
Vicki Weinberg:I had a really great chat with Charlotte.
Vicki Weinberg:We spoke about how she taught herself to sew and how to make clothes.
Vicki Weinberg:Um, her business is still quite young, is less than two years old,
Vicki Weinberg:and she's done so much in that time, which she's gonna talk to us about.
Vicki Weinberg:One thing we spoke about that I particularly enjoyed was she was talking
Vicki Weinberg:about how she has, and representatives of her brand, so customers that she
Vicki Weinberg:works with to inform what designs and patterns she makes, um, they
Vicki Weinberg:give her input, and also how they help promote her business as well.
Vicki Weinberg:I thought this was a really interesting model.
Vicki Weinberg:I don't think I've heard of anyone else doing this, and I'm sure
Vicki Weinberg:that, you know, you, this would be something that, um, for lots of us is
Vicki Weinberg:something perhaps to, to think about.
Vicki Weinberg:So I really hope you're inspired by Charlotte and enjoy her conversation.
Vicki Weinberg:So, hi Charlotte.
Vicki Weinberg:Thank you for being here.
Charlotte Watts:Thank you for having me.
Vicki Weinberg:Can we please start with you giving an introduction to
Vicki Weinberg:yourself, your business and what you sell?
Charlotte Watts:Yeah, so I'm Charlotte, um, mum of two on a normal day-to-day
Charlotte Watts:basis, but, um, I started, Made on the street, um, back in 2021 and
Charlotte Watts:Made on the Street is, um, a handmade children's and babies clothing business.
Vicki Weinberg:Oh, thank you.
Vicki Weinberg:And I'd love to know a bit more about the story about why you started Made
Vicki Weinberg:on the Street, because I believe the business is fairly young still.
Vicki Weinberg:Is that right?
Charlotte Watts:Yeah.
Charlotte Watts:Yeah.
Charlotte Watts:So, um, it'll be two years, um, this September.
Charlotte Watts:Um, so.
Charlotte Watts:Basically during my maternity leave of my youngest, um, she'll be three in October.
Charlotte Watts:I, I just, I fell in love with being around my kids.
Charlotte Watts:Um, I'd been furloughed at the beginning of lockdown.
Charlotte Watts:Um, and during my actual maternity leave while she was here, I needed something
Charlotte Watts:to do to keep me busy and occupied.
Charlotte Watts:And, you know, as you do, mums like to keep ourselves really busy and I
Charlotte Watts:decided I'd get the sewing machine out and make some little outfits for her.
Charlotte Watts:And a few friends had seen what I'd made and lo and behold,
Charlotte Watts:Made on the Street started.
Vicki Weinberg:And had you, um, been making your own clothes,
Vicki Weinberg:clothes before Charlotte?
Vicki Weinberg:So how did you even know how to do that?
Charlotte Watts:I've made bits for my kids here and there, so my eldest is five,
Charlotte Watts:so I've made, you know, the odd bit here and there for him when he was a baby.
Charlotte Watts:But no, not really.
Charlotte Watts:I've never made any since.
Charlotte Watts:So I'm, I'm really self-taught and it's all trial and error.
Charlotte Watts:Um, and yeah, I just fell in love with sewing again and I bought a
Charlotte Watts:pattern, bought another pattern, and next thing I have a big binder full
Charlotte Watts:of patterns and I thought, I'm going to try this and see how it goes.
Charlotte Watts:And yeah, people liked what I made, so.
Vicki Weinberg:Oh, that's amazing.
Vicki Weinberg:So did you, did you like go to classes or watch's YouTube, or did you literally
Vicki Weinberg:just sit home and figure it out?
Vicki Weinberg:I'm just, I'm just fascinated how people make things.
Charlotte Watts:Yeah, so during secondary school, when I was about, I don't know,
Charlotte Watts:14, 15, we had lessons to make, you know, the little PE bags with the drawstrings
Charlotte Watts:or pillow cushions and what have you.
Charlotte Watts:But nothing, nothing to this extent.
Charlotte Watts:I, yeah, it was literally I thought, oh, I'll make something.
Charlotte Watts:I'll, you know, I need to keep myself busy.
Charlotte Watts:And yeah, I just sat down and watched a couple of YouTube videos.
Charlotte Watts:Just because I'm a visual learner, I, I can work it out better if I see it.
Charlotte Watts:And.
Charlotte Watts:Yeah, now I just give it a go.
Charlotte Watts:I'll buy some patterns and I, if I like it, and I think, oh,
Charlotte Watts:that'd sell really well then yeah.
Vicki Weinberg:Oh, that's brilliant.
Vicki Weinberg:Thank you.
Vicki Weinberg:Oh, thank you for explaining that.
Vicki Weinberg:And obviously you buy the patterns, um, but you also have to
Vicki Weinberg:source fabric, I guess, as well.
Charlotte Watts:Yeah.
Vicki Weinberg:Um, and I've looked at your website and I encourage
Vicki Weinberg:everyone to look at your website.
Vicki Weinberg:It will be linked up in the show notes.
Vicki Weinberg:Um, and your fabrics are so unique.
Vicki Weinberg:That's something that really stood out to me when I looked, is that I'm seeing like,
Vicki Weinberg:designs and things that I, I don't see everywhere because you know what I mean?
Vicki Weinberg:Sometimes you can see similar fabrics popping up.
Charlotte Watts:Yeah.
Vicki Weinberg:Um, but yours look really unique.
Vicki Weinberg:Where, where do you find them?
Charlotte Watts:I'm really lucky that, um, after joining Instagram to
Charlotte Watts:promote my business, I've come across some really great pattern designers.
Charlotte Watts:Um, so I get, I buy the seamless patterns off some of these ladies,
Charlotte Watts:and then they're exclusive to me, so no one else will have z'd pattern or
Charlotte Watts:z'd colourway or whichever you like.
Charlotte Watts:So I've really enjoyed having that aspect that I can say, oh, you won't
Charlotte Watts:ha you won't see this anywhere else.
Charlotte Watts:So, yeah.
Charlotte Watts:And then.
Charlotte Watts:So I've bought patterns and then I've done a lot of research into
Charlotte Watts:who's better at printing the fabric and the colours that come out better
Charlotte Watts:and yeah, the quality and the feel.
Charlotte Watts:And so my kids have had a lot of clothes to try on as I've tested fabrics and
Charlotte Watts:who's the better producer of the fabrics.
Charlotte Watts:So, but I like, I like to keep everything UK made.
Charlotte Watts:So a lot of my fabrics, um, are from UK businesses as well.
Vicki Weinberg:Oh, I didn't even think about that.
Vicki Weinberg:So some of the bit, so some of the fabric you are buying in mm-hmm as
Vicki Weinberg:fabric, but you are, you're actually getting these designs printed as well.
Charlotte Watts:Yeah.
Vicki Weinberg:Oh, wow.
Vicki Weinberg:How do you even go about finding someone that can print on pap fabrics?
Vicki Weinberg:I'm assuming you're printing roles.
Vicki Weinberg:You're not just printing like a square?
Charlotte Watts:Yeah, no.
Charlotte Watts:So, um, some fabrics are printing one metres, so it's not a lot.
Charlotte Watts:You can get a couple of outfits from one metres, but they're, what I like
Charlotte Watts:to do is my test pieces, but then majority I buy, I don't know, five
Charlotte Watts:metres plus 10 metres, 25 metres if it's something that really sells.
Charlotte Watts:So I have a lovely big, um, bookcase next to me that houses all my fabrics.
Vicki Weinberg:Oh wow.
Vicki Weinberg:And was it a, okay, so, so first of all you had to, I
Vicki Weinberg:guess you say, find the designs.
Charlotte Watts:Mm-hmm.
Vicki Weinberg:And was that literally just Instagram, you
Vicki Weinberg:made all of those connections?
Charlotte Watts:Yeah.
Charlotte Watts:Yeah.
Charlotte Watts:So I've, I think I've got, I think five or six ladies that I've, um, bought
Charlotte Watts:quite a lot of designs off of them.
Charlotte Watts:Um, which is quite addictive.
Charlotte Watts:So I, I found them, I bought one or two patterns, had them printed.
Charlotte Watts:I loved how they printed out, and then I've kind of just,
Charlotte Watts:yeah, stuck to them ladies and support some more as I go along.
Vicki Weinberg:Well, that's really nice.
Vicki Weinberg:And are they, um, designing, are you working with them on the designs or
Vicki Weinberg:are they, or do they have designs that you are like, well I really like that?
Charlotte Watts:Um, so some, some, sometimes I'm working with them.
Charlotte Watts:So I had, um, some Christmas designs off of, uh, two ladies,
Charlotte Watts:um, that I worked with them.
Charlotte Watts:I said, this is what I'm aiming for.
Charlotte Watts:This is what I'd really like.
Charlotte Watts:And they really worked, worked well.
Charlotte Watts:And came out with these brilliant designs, um, and sold out my
Charlotte Watts:Christmas fabrics, which was amazing.
Charlotte Watts:And then some of them they've already designed.
Charlotte Watts:Um, and yeah, I just love them and I'll buy them.
Charlotte Watts:And then sometimes they ask for input and it's like, oh, this would be really nice.
Charlotte Watts:And they're really great that they're like, well, do you want this designed?
Charlotte Watts:Like you've put input in, you know, we'll let you have first dibs.
Charlotte Watts:So there's, there's loads of designs on my computer.
Vicki Weinberg:Oh, that's really nice.
Vicki Weinberg:And do you get input from customers as well?
Vicki Weinberg:Do customers say to you, can you make this with a unicorn or whatever it is?
Charlotte Watts:I have some really great ladies.
Charlotte Watts:Um, so I do ask their input and you know, they'll be like, oh, you should get,
Charlotte Watts:I don't know, a unicorn design or you should get this mummy and turtle design.
Charlotte Watts:That would be really nice for baby bundles.
Charlotte Watts:Or, you know, the like, they're really great ladies.
Charlotte Watts:I've made some really good friends along with making a business as well.
Vicki Weinberg:Oh, that sounds interesting and we'll talk about that
Vicki Weinberg:a little bit more, if that's okay.
Charlotte Watts:Yeah.
Vicki Weinberg:In, in a moment.
Vicki Weinberg:So once you've got the fabrics, how did you go about
Vicki Weinberg:getting them actually printed?
Vicki Weinberg:Because it sounds like you've literally just, you know,
Vicki Weinberg:done all of this from scratch.
Vicki Weinberg:You've taught yourself.
Vicki Weinberg:I think it's about, I think it's amazing by the way, that you've sort of gone
Vicki Weinberg:ahead and done all of this because you're making it sound really easy
Vicki Weinberg:but I bet it's not as easy as that.
Charlotte Watts:It can be really stressful.
Charlotte Watts:Can be really stressful and my partner will vouch for me that some nights I'm
Charlotte Watts:up until two, three o'clock in the, in the morning and I'm like, I can't
Charlotte Watts:get this situation out of my head.
Charlotte Watts:And you know, I'll fester and fester on what's going wrong and I need to get
Charlotte Watts:it fixed, and if something's printed wrong or looking for someone else, um,
Charlotte Watts:to print these designs that I want such a colour to be so vibrant that I look
Charlotte Watts:for this particular fabric printer.
Charlotte Watts:And yeah, it just some nights, it can really fester in my head
Charlotte Watts:that I need to get this fixed.
Vicki Weinberg:I, I think that's having your own business, isn't it?
Vicki Weinberg:There's always something.
Charlotte Watts:Oh, definitely.
Vicki Weinberg:To think about.
Vicki Weinberg:So of all of your fabric printers are in the, in the UK then?
Charlotte Watts:Um, majority of what I use there is one lady that
Charlotte Watts:does, um, European fabric printing.
Charlotte Watts:Um, so I try to use her a little bit less just because I like the fact of saying
Charlotte Watts:that everything is UK made printed.
Charlotte Watts:It's all come from the UK.
Vicki Weinberg:That makes sense.
Vicki Weinberg:And how did you go about finding printers?
Vicki Weinberg:Because I know that you can probably go onto Google and search and get
Vicki Weinberg:loads of results, but how would you actually go about finding someone that
Vicki Weinberg:you want to work with that's, yeah, kind of printing them as you want.
Charlotte Watts:So like you say, Google to start with, and then it was just a
Charlotte Watts:case of trial and error and seeing how an example of a des a design printed out, um,
Charlotte Watts:how the stretch, the fabric if it lasted well with the wash, the tumble drying.
Charlotte Watts:You know, as a mother I like quick and easy, so I want clothes that I can
Charlotte Watts:wash, tumble, dried, and that's it.
Charlotte Watts:I don't want to be faffing that you only have to do hand wash and
Charlotte Watts:hand dry and leave flat to dry.
Charlotte Watts:So I wanted something that would withstand mum life.
Vicki Weinberg:That makes sense.
Vicki Weinberg:You must be learning loads about fabrics as well.
Charlotte Watts:Oh, definitely, definitely.
Charlotte Watts:It's all a learning curve for me as well.
Vicki Weinberg:And are you using all the, sorry I've, gosh, I know I'm
Vicki Weinberg:asking so many questions, but we've got to get all of this out of you.
Vicki Weinberg:So are you, um, are you using like one particular type of fabric?
Vicki Weinberg:And you don't need to tell me what fabric are you use, you use, but um.
Charlotte Watts:At the moment I'm sticking to just jersey fabrics,
Charlotte Watts:so, which is 95% cotton, 5% elastin.
Charlotte Watts:So it's got the good stretch and the recovery for the children that are on
Charlotte Watts:the move, crawling, rolling, running.
Charlotte Watts:So I like to use that, that it's a nice stretch, but I am venturing into just
Charlotte Watts:some cotton, just a hundred percent cotton dresses, just some nice girly designs that
Charlotte Watts:I'm testing the waters with at the moment.
Vicki Weinberg:Well, that sounds lovely, especially as we're coming into summer.
Charlotte Watts:Yeah.
Vicki Weinberg:That's really nice.
Vicki Weinberg:And does it, I'm, I know I've got so many questions, but I'm fascinated by
Vicki Weinberg:anyone who makes anything Charlotte.
Vicki Weinberg:Um, I guess, does that affect how you actually put them together
Vicki Weinberg:as in, you know, physically like cutting and sewing fabric?
Vicki Weinberg:Does the different fabrics must make such a big difference?
Vicki Weinberg:I'm just thinking what a massive learning curve this almost has been.
Charlotte Watts:Yeah.
Charlotte Watts:So, um, The cotton's actually easier to cut out because there's no
Charlotte Watts:stretch, there's no recovery for it.
Charlotte Watts:Whereas the stretch fabric that I tend to use a lot there is stretch with it.
Charlotte Watts:So you have to learn to position it just right, no stretch.
Charlotte Watts:So it's not a false cutout.
Charlotte Watts:Um, but again, trial and error, I learned that the hard way of
Charlotte Watts:making my kids some bits that I was like, why isn't this big enough?
Charlotte Watts:It was big enough in the pattern and yeah, so I learned that the hard way, whereas
Charlotte Watts:the cotton is nicer to cut out because there's not really any stretch to it.
Charlotte Watts:But it is harder to sew, I find, because it's such a stiff fabric.
Vicki Weinberg:I know what you mean.
Vicki Weinberg:Cotton's ki I guess it's kind of quite unforgiving, isn't it?
Vicki Weinberg:Like the lines, you know?
Vicki Weinberg:I'm just thinking that you can sort of tell when cotton is
Vicki Weinberg:poorly stitched, can't you?
Charlotte Watts:Yeah.
Vicki Weinberg:It's fairly obvious.
Vicki Weinberg:Oh wow.
Vicki Weinberg:It sounds like you've so much sort of trial and error over the
Vicki Weinberg:years, it sounds like Charlotte, to get to where you've got to.
Vicki Weinberg:Um, so let's talk about actually about the past few years.
Vicki Weinberg:So you mentioned that you've coming up for two years in Autumn.
Charlotte Watts:Yeah.
Vicki Weinberg:So how, what's changed in those two years?
Vicki Weinberg:How have, you know, you mentioned you started making the clothes for your
Vicki Weinberg:kids and for friends, children, and so talk us through sort of what's
Vicki Weinberg:changed now, where you are up to.
Charlotte Watts:Okay.
Charlotte Watts:So originally when I started sewing, um.
Charlotte Watts:Everyone likes to call me the Harry Potter.
Charlotte Watts:So, because I did start sewing in the cupboard under my stairs in my house,
Charlotte Watts:so I literally had a little bench.
Charlotte Watts:It would have my two machines on, and I'd get on my wheelie chair and I'd slide in.
Charlotte Watts:That was it.
Charlotte Watts:I had probably one little, little, um, oh, what do you call them?
Charlotte Watts:Well, a little piece of metre of fabric.
Charlotte Watts:Um, and that was it.
Charlotte Watts:I'd, you know, make one outfit.
Charlotte Watts:See if that would sell, and then I'd get some more fabric in.
Charlotte Watts:Now I'm really lucky.
Charlotte Watts:I had a great opportunity just after turning one year old, I think it was,
Charlotte Watts:I had a really great opportunity that allowed me to build the shed that I'm
Charlotte Watts:in now, where I make all of my makes.
Charlotte Watts:So this is actually on the outside of my house, um, that
Charlotte Watts:was built, especially for this.
Charlotte Watts:So all my, my sewing machines are behind me.
Charlotte Watts:I've got a projector or both need to cut up all my fabric.
Charlotte Watts:Um, so my patterns are projected down.
Charlotte Watts:I have so much fabric in here, it's hard to move some days.
Charlotte Watts:Um, I've just recently, um, actually today just put my, um,
Charlotte Watts:some of my makes into a local shop.
Charlotte Watts:Um, and then we have a little, um, gallery down the road in my village that
Charlotte Watts:I've got some makes in there as well.
Charlotte Watts:So it's just nice to, I'm just, I'm branching out into
Charlotte Watts:physical items as opposed to just selling them on my website.
Charlotte Watts:Um, so my, my aim is I'd like to get into one or two more shops
Charlotte Watts:for now, just to kind of test the waters if they're, if they're wanted
Charlotte Watts:to be seen in the physical form.
Charlotte Watts:Um, as again, as a mum, you always want to give the, the fabric
Charlotte Watts:that little feel, don't you?
Charlotte Watts:To know if it's decent or not.
Vicki Weinberg:Definitely.
Vicki Weinberg:I think you're right, especially with, with clothes it's like something that's
Vicki Weinberg:really nice to be able to buy in person.
Charlotte Watts:Yeah.
Vicki Weinberg:So that sounds great.
Vicki Weinberg:And by the way, your space looks amazing.
Vicki Weinberg:I know no one else can see it, but it looks really light.
Charlotte Watts:Thank you.
Vicki Weinberg:Looking at all your windows.
Vicki Weinberg:That was lovely.
Vicki Weinberg:And so you mentioned that before you were just, you know, you were
Vicki Weinberg:getting an order and making it.
Vicki Weinberg:Is that, um, has having stock in shops kind of changed how you make, because I
Vicki Weinberg:guess before you were making on demand.
Vicki Weinberg:Are you having to make larger quantities now?
Charlotte Watts:Um, I still make on demand.
Charlotte Watts:Um, a lot of my sales are still on demand, which is brilliant.
Charlotte Watts:You know, I, I love the fact that seeing what everyone wants, um, different fabric
Charlotte Watts:options coming through, different styles, but I have started making on a larger
Charlotte Watts:demand just so that I have the stock there and the ready made side of things, and
Charlotte Watts:so that I can ring up z'd shops and be like, have you sold anything this week?
Charlotte Watts:Oh, okay.
Charlotte Watts:I'll bring some stock in so it's ready and it's there to go that I'm not
Charlotte Watts:having to keep them waiting as well.
Vicki Weinberg:That makes sense.
Vicki Weinberg:I think it makes a lot of sense when you can make on demand.
Vicki Weinberg:Mm-hmm.
Vicki Weinberg:Because like you said, there's no waste either, is there, which is brilliant.
Vicki Weinberg:And you mentioned earlier the ladies that you were working with
Vicki Weinberg:that give you feedback and input.
Vicki Weinberg:Do you mind talking a little bit about that?
Charlotte Watts:Yeah, so, um, originally when I first started I thought, oh,
Charlotte Watts:no one's going to want to rep or, you know, be in involved sort of thing.
Charlotte Watts:So I was really lucky when people started asking if I was doing anything along the
Charlotte Watts:rep lines and, you know, if I was, you know, willing to do anything like that.
Charlotte Watts:Um.
Charlotte Watts:So I kind of, you know, took a leap of faith and it didn't work
Charlotte Watts:out brilliantly the first time.
Charlotte Watts:So it's all trial and error.
Charlotte Watts:Um, but I've recently started again at rep ventures.
Charlotte Watts:Um, and you know, they, there's a little group of them that have
Charlotte Watts:bought from me from the beginning so they know what sort of fabrics I
Charlotte Watts:like, what sort of designs I like.
Charlotte Watts:So they're always like, oh, have you seen this design and have you thought
Charlotte Watts:about doing this sort of, um, outfit for the summer and you know, I always
Charlotte Watts:take their opinions on board and it's great that they're all there to help.
Charlotte Watts:And some of them have their own little businesses as well.
Charlotte Watts:So it's nice that sometimes it's like oh, do you fancy doing a little collab
Charlotte Watts:that we can do this outfit with that sort of bow or head band that you do.
Charlotte Watts:And it's really nice that, you know, it's nice that I've made friends
Charlotte Watts:as well as like customers as well.
Vicki Weinberg:Yeah, that is really nice.
Vicki Weinberg:And for anyone who doesn't know how it works, so how does reps work?
Vicki Weinberg:I mean, we can talk about just how it works for your business, but say how.
Charlotte Watts:So, for my business, um, I obviously advertise that I'm
Charlotte Watts:looking for someone to rep for me.
Charlotte Watts:So represent me, um, that they've bought from me in the past or
Charlotte Watts:want to buy from me in the future.
Charlotte Watts:I offer them a discount, um, for them to promote me, if you like.
Charlotte Watts:And then I give them a code for them to offer to their friends, followers,
Charlotte Watts:family, whoever you like, so that they get a little bit of a discount as well.
Charlotte Watts:So they're getting a little bit off of my makes for their time of
Charlotte Watts:posting on Instagram or Facebook.
Vicki Weinberg:Oh, that's so interesting.
Vicki Weinberg:So I don't know anyone who's done this sort of model before,
Vicki Weinberg:I'm really quite fascinated.
Vicki Weinberg:You mentioned when you first started it, it didn't go well.
Vicki Weinberg:Would you mind telling us, and obviously only as much as you want to.
Vicki Weinberg:What wasn't working out?
Vicki Weinberg:Just because I'm thinking that people might be able to learn from it.
Charlotte Watts:Yeah, I think it, I think it all depends on the people
Charlotte Watts:that you ask to do it for you.
Charlotte Watts:You need to kind of, um, look at what their Instagram, their social media,
Charlotte Watts:you know, if they're active, if they're not active, you know, some people can
Charlotte Watts:be really active and they're, they're great, but some people are really
Charlotte Watts:active and they're not active for you.
Charlotte Watts:So it's, it's just trial and error.
Charlotte Watts:And at the fir the first time I tried it, I had some people,
Charlotte Watts:and they were lovely ladies.
Charlotte Watts:They were, but they just weren't interested in working with me.
Charlotte Watts:They were kind of, they just wanted the discount code for themselves.
Charlotte Watts:They, they never really promoted that bit more, which, you know, it's fine.
Charlotte Watts:It's all trial and error, isn't it?
Vicki Weinberg:So that makes sense.
Vicki Weinberg:Yeah.
Vicki Weinberg:And you are, and you're right.
Vicki Weinberg:And it's good that you learn that.
Vicki Weinberg:And do people sign up for a set amount of time or is it just?
Charlotte Watts:Yeah.
Vicki Weinberg:So I try.
Charlotte Watts:I tend to do, um, like a three, four months period.
Charlotte Watts:Um, so the kind, the ladies that are involved at the moment, they've done
Charlotte Watts:just after Christmas and they'll do up until, I think it's end of
Charlotte Watts:April if I remember correctly.
Charlotte Watts:So they've kind of had a bit of Christmasy, uh, bit of wins,
Charlotte Watts:free Easter stuff as well.
Charlotte Watts:And then obviously I'll look for new ladies first, uh, end of
Charlotte Watts:spring, summer to bring in some new designs and what have you.
Vicki Weinberg:Oh, that's exciting.
Vicki Weinberg:So as well as using them for input, you're also using them to, well say using them.
Vicki Weinberg:They're also promoting your products and showing pictures of their
Vicki Weinberg:children wearing your clothes and things like that on social media.
Vicki Weinberg:That's really nice.
Vicki Weinberg:And I guess that also gives you some content you can use as well.
Charlotte Watts:Yeah, yeah.
Charlotte Watts:It's lovely because I love the, I obviously on my Instagram there's lots
Charlotte Watts:of, uh, flat pictures of my makes and items and what have you, but it's always
Charlotte Watts:nice to get the active shots and of the kids playing in the items and, you know,
Charlotte Watts:just enjoying the clothes you know.
Charlotte Watts:I, I.
Charlotte Watts:I don't want them to be pristine pictures.
Charlotte Watts:I love seeing the kids using them and being dirty in them and you know, having
Charlotte Watts:fun like clothes are meant to be fun.
Vicki Weinberg:And as you say, because you've really carefully chosen your
Vicki Weinberg:fabrics, you know the fabrics that you can just throw in the washing machine.
Vicki Weinberg:It's nice to have clothes that they can just wear and enjoy every day
Vicki Weinberg:rather than, because you're right, I um, I have a son and a daughter.
Vicki Weinberg:My daughter definitely has the odd bit of clothing that she doesn't
Vicki Weinberg:wear that often because I know that if it has to go in the wash well it
Vicki Weinberg:doesn't even go in the washing machine.
Vicki Weinberg:I know it's a faff because I have to hand wash it.
Charlotte Watts:Yeah.
Vicki Weinberg:And I'm like, well, don't, you can't wear that
Vicki Weinberg:to the park because I don't really want to be scrubbing it tonight.
Vicki Weinberg:But it's great that your clothes are so wearable.
Charlotte Watts:Yeah.
Charlotte Watts:So my daughter, she's a nightmare for not keeping clean, so
Charlotte Watts:she's my prime example of that.
Charlotte Watts:A lot of my clothes, you know, go into the washing machine with God
Charlotte Watts:knows how many stains over them, or you know, food or what have you.
Charlotte Watts:She does, and they come out and they look fine.
Vicki Weinberg:Well, that's brilliant.
Vicki Weinberg:And I think that's really like an endorsement, isn't it, as well for the,
Vicki Weinberg:for the fabric that you're using that it just washes up really well because
Vicki Weinberg:like you said, I think that's one of the most important things for parents.
Vicki Weinberg:It's nice that you're getting feedback from other parents as well.
Charlotte Watts:Yeah.
Vicki Weinberg:To kind of reinforce that.
Vicki Weinberg:How do you go about finding, um, ladies to work with you?
Charlotte Watts:So, some of the ladies I work with, they're local
Charlotte Watts:and they're you know, the kids go to the same school that my son goes to
Charlotte Watts:and they bought from me previously.
Charlotte Watts:So it's just trial and error that, oh, do you fancy, you know, you buy a
Charlotte Watts:lot off me recently, so do you fancy being a little rep and there'll be
Charlotte Watts:a little bit of a discount in it for you, and nine times out of 10 it works
Charlotte Watts:out brilliantly because they're like, oh yeah, like, I like your stuff.
Charlotte Watts:So it helps.
Charlotte Watts:Um, otherwise, I put posts up on Instagram and Facebook, kind of
Charlotte Watts:searching for people, asking people to share them, you know, if friends might
Charlotte Watts:be interested and stuff like that.
Charlotte Watts:And it usually works really well that people come in and, you
Charlotte Watts:know, a apply with their children.
Charlotte Watts:You know, they tell me a little bit about themselves, their children,
Charlotte Watts:what sort of photos they take.
Charlotte Watts:Kind of shared a couple of photos with me too, so I can see and you
Charlotte Watts:know, ni, most of them, well, nearly all of them that I've had apply are
Charlotte Watts:brilliant and I wish I could work with all of them because they do look
Charlotte Watts:amazing and the, the kids are so cute.
Charlotte Watts:Like it really does make me broody seeing all the babies and the, you
Charlotte Watts:know, the toddlers and as you do, but unfortunately, as a small business I can't
Charlotte Watts:afford to work with hundreds and hundreds at the moment, but you never know.
Charlotte Watts:Watch this space.
Vicki Weinberg:Well, that's really exciting.
Vicki Weinberg:And also something you made a point of there that I didn't think about is,
Vicki Weinberg:I guess as your children get older, I guess it's going to be even more valuable
Vicki Weinberg:to have, um, other young families
Charlotte Watts:Yeah.
Vicki Weinberg:Working with you because your children, presumably
Vicki Weinberg:you'll get to a point where maybe you're not making clothes for that age, but
Vicki Weinberg:you'll still need the pictures and people to test them out and stuff.
Vicki Weinberg:So that's really smart.
Vicki Weinberg:And hope you don't mind asking me, so, me asking you so many
Vicki Weinberg:questions about this, Charlotte.
Vicki Weinberg:It's just, I think that, I just think it's such, so clever and
Vicki Weinberg:when I saw the reference on your website, I thought that's so smart.
Vicki Weinberg:Because I think a lot of businesses, if they wanted to, could do something smaller
Vicki Weinberg:and then you have another small group of people as well as giving you input, but
Vicki Weinberg:also helping to promote your products.
Charlotte Watts:Yeah.
Vicki Weinberg:Because that's what people need, isn't it?
Vicki Weinberg:Especially with clothes.
Vicki Weinberg:You want to see people wearing them.
Charlotte Watts:Yeah.
Charlotte Watts:Oh no.
Charlotte Watts:As small businesses, we've got to stick together.
Charlotte Watts:It's so, especially with everything that's going on in the world
Charlotte Watts:at the moment, it's so hard.
Charlotte Watts:So it's so nice that, you know, if my small business can help that small
Charlotte Watts:business and another small business just by sharing pictures that have
Charlotte Watts:got my items, their items in that we can all help each other out.
Charlotte Watts:It's just, it's nice to be able to stick together at the moment.
Vicki Weinberg:Definitely.
Vicki Weinberg:And that's why I also really appreciate you being here as well, because I
Vicki Weinberg:think just what you've shared is going to really help have the businesses
Vicki Weinberg:who listen to this podcast as well.
Vicki Weinberg:Because I'm convinced at least one person will hear this
Vicki Weinberg:and go, oh, I could try that.
Vicki Weinberg:And I just think that's, yeah, I just think that's, that's
Vicki Weinberg:the whole reason I do this.
Vicki Weinberg:I just think it's amazing that people can get ideas and input from each
Vicki Weinberg:other and um, yeah, and I really appreciate the, you sharing so much?
Vicki Weinberg:Because I know I've bombarded you with questions.
Vicki Weinberg:Thank you so much.
Vicki Weinberg:I've got one final piece of, uh, one, one final piece of advice.
Vicki Weinberg:I don't, I don't really have advise Charlotte.
Vicki Weinberg:I have a question, which is what would your number piece, number one piece of
Vicki Weinberg:advice be for other product creators?
Vicki Weinberg:What's the one thing you'd like to leave us with?
Charlotte Watts:I think don't give up at the first hurdle.
Charlotte Watts:You, you've got to keep trying.
Charlotte Watts:I think if I'd given up when I first started and, you know, certain items
Charlotte Watts:weren't working out, certain items didn't sell and I was left with so meant so
Charlotte Watts:much stock fabric and I, you know, if I just left it there, it just wouldn't
Charlotte Watts:have been worth my time to start it up.
Charlotte Watts:So just don't give up, keep going.
Charlotte Watts:Like that moment that you get over the hill is coming and it will, will arrive.
Vicki Weinberg:Thank you so much.
Vicki Weinberg:I really like that.
Vicki Weinberg:Thank you.
Vicki Weinberg:And I think, yeah, you've embodied that really well when you, you
Vicki Weinberg:know, all that you've shared, you can definitely set, set sail.
Vicki Weinberg:You know, you've mentioned trial and error a few times.
Vicki Weinberg:I think you're a really good example of just trying things and changing things.
Vicki Weinberg:And you're right, you have to be adaptable because I think in.
Vicki Weinberg:There's hardly anything where your first idea is the best or the way
Vicki Weinberg:you do things originally is, yeah.
Vicki Weinberg:So it's really good.
Vicki Weinberg:I think it's really useful people to hear that.
Vicki Weinberg:So thank you so much, Charlotte.
Charlotte Watts:Oh no.
Charlotte Watts:You're welcome.
Charlotte Watts:Thank you for having me.
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