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Sarah Rose and Wendy: From Chronic Illness to Creative Business Freedom
Episode 425th January 2026 • Power Movers • Roy Castleman
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EPISODE OVERVIEW

Duration: Approximately 45 minutes

Best For: Trapped entrepreneurs who have sacrificed their health and personal time for their business

Key Outcome: Listeners will discover how to build a business around their passion while prioritising their wellbeing, and how AI can help even the most technology-hesitant business owner get unstuck

She was on twelve medications and bound to a wheelchair. Then she picked up a paintbrush during lockdown and everything changed.

THE BOTTOM LINE


You know that feeling. You built something from nothing, and now you cannot remember the last time you had energy left at the end of the day. Your body is sending signals you keep ignoring. Your relationships are suffering because there is always something more urgent. Sarah Rose knows this feeling intimately, having battled five autoimmune diseases, fibromyalgia, and years of being told she would never improve. The thing is, she found her way out. Not through working harder, through working differently. Through art, through community, through breath work, and through using AI as a tool to finally get the thoughts out of her dyslexic brain and onto paper. Now she and Wendy are opening The Craftery, a creative space in Beccles that does more than sell art. It gives people permission to be present, to heal, and to rediscover themselves. This episode reveals what happens when you stop sacrificing yourself for your business and start building a business that actually serves your life.


WHY THIS EPISODE MATTERS TO YOU


When you prioritise your morning routine, you gain the mental clarity to make decisions that free you from daily firefighting, rather than creating more of it.


The creative practices Sarah shares solve the overwhelm problem by giving your brain a space to rest, which means you stop carrying yesterday's stress into today's decisions.


Learning how AI can organise your scattered thoughts means you stop being the bottleneck for every communication, every social post, every piece of content your business needs.


If you keep ignoring your health and personal time, you will join the 70 percent of small business owners near burnout, and your business will collapse with you.


KEY INSIGHTS YOU CAN IMPLEMENT TODAY


When you spend one hour on yourself each morning before touching your business, you operate with 20 percent more energy and mental clarity. Sarah went from being bedbound to becoming a Wim Hof instructor because she stopped putting herself last. Your business cannot outperform your body.


AI is not about replacing your thinking. It is about extending it. Sarah has severe dyslexia and always believed she was not smart enough to write proper business communications. Now she talks to ChatGPT, gets her thoughts organised, and communicates more effectively than ever. The fear of AI being complex is exactly backwards. It simplifies everything.


Art and creative practice are not hobbies. They are business tools. When Sarah sat painting during lockdown, she stopped thinking about pain, bills, and arguments. She was fully present. This is the same focused state that allows breakthrough thinking in business. You need practices that empty your mind so there is room for the next idea.


Your business is a baby that needs to grow into an adult. Most entrepreneurs get stuck in the teenage years because they cannot let go. Sarah and Wendy are building The Craftery with the explicit goal that it can run without them constantly present. That is the only path to the freedom you originally wanted.


Tracking your wellness commitments is as important as tracking your revenue. Roy introduced the concept of aiming for four or five days a week of self-care, not seven. This removes the guilt of imperfection while building the consistency that transforms your health and energy.


GOLDEN QUOTES WORTH REMEMBERING


"I literally sat in that little art room thinking, I have not thought about pain. I have not taken any painkillers. I have not thought about anything else apart from what I was doing in that moment." - Sarah Rose


"I do not think I would have had the confidence to do this had I not been taught AI. There is no way." - Sarah Rose


"If you are able to give yourself that extra 20 percent every day by doing your morning routine, firstly longevity wise you are going to get better and better. You are going to lose the weight, increase your body's ability to heal itself." - Roy Castleman


"Life is too short. If you want to do it and you have always wanted to do it, just go and do it." - Wendy


"You do not want to build a business that is totally reliant on you." - Roy Castleman


QUICK NAVIGATION FOR BUSY LEADERS


00:00 - Introduction: Sarah's journey from wheelchair-bound to Wim Hof instructor

03:30 - The health transformation: How Sarah reduced from 12 medications to nearly none

08:45 - Wendy's story: When your body forces you to follow your passion

12:20 - Living with EDS: What chronic illness actually means day to day

17:00 - The lockdown breakthrough: How painting became therapy

22:15 - Creative Cuppers: Building community through art

26:40 - AI for the technology hesitant: How ChatGPT changed everything for a dyslexic entrepreneur

32:00 - Communication skills: What training AI teaches you about talking to humans

36:30 - The morning routine commitment: Why one hour changes everything

40:15 - The Craftery vision: Creating a home for artists and healing

44:00 - Just do it: Taking action when fear says wait


GUEST SPOTLIGHT


Name: Sarah Rose

Bio: Sarah is a Wim Hof Method instructor, artist, and founder of Creative Cuppers. After battling five autoimmune diseases and being wheelchair-bound, she transformed her health through breath work, cold exposure, and creative practice. She now helps others find their own path to wellness through art and community.


Connect with Sarah:

Website: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61584047698274

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarah-rose-randlesome-522159272/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/sarahroserandlesome


YOUR NEXT ACTIONS

This Week: Block one hour every morning before you touch your business. Use 20 minutes for breath work, 20 for movement, 20 for something creative. Track it in a simple app or notebook. Notice how your decision-making changes by Friday.


This Month: Choose one AI tool like ChatGPT and have three conversations where you brain dump everything in your head about a problem. Let it organise your thoughts. See if your communication improves across all areas of your business.


This Quarter: Design your business with the explicit goal that it runs without your constant presence. Identify the three things only you can do, and start documenting or delegating everything else.


EPISODE RESOURCES

The Craftery Beccles - Facebook page for Sarah and Wendy's new creative space

Creative Cuppers - Sarah's art and wellness workshops

Email: thecrafterybeccles@gmail.com

Joe Dispenza meditations - mentioned as part of their morning routine

Wim Hof Method - breath work and cold exposure practice


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CONNECT WITH YOUR HOST, ROY CASTLEMAN


Roy is the founder of All The Power Limited and creator of Elevate360, a business coaching system for entrepreneurs ready to scale without burnout. As a certified Wim Hof Method Instructor and the UK's first certified BOS UP coach, Roy combines AI automation, wellness practices, and business operating systems to help trapped entrepreneurs reclaim their freedom.


Website: www.atpbos.com

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/roycastleman/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@allthepowerltd

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Hey, power movers, welcome. Here we have Sarah and Wendy

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and they have an interesting story to tell us. Sarah,

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I've worked with for. How long has it been, Sarah?

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Two and a half years? Three years? Over three now.

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Three and a half. Three and a half, four years.

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Gosh. And Sarah came to me first of all at

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a WIM HOF workshop that I was running and there's

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a whole story on there which is on one of

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the other podcasts we've done. So go and have a

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look at that. And this is the additional part of

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the next stage in Sarah's journey. Sarah is an entrepreneur

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and she's been doing entrepreneurial things and she's stepping and

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now she's going into something bigger. Welcome Sarah and Wendy.

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So introduce yourselves and then we will start digging into

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the, the exciting new project. Do you want to go

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first? No, you go first. I'm Sarah. Yeah, you probably

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you might have seen me on a previous podcast of

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Roy's mum to three kids, two crazy cog poos, Wim

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HOF instructor like Roy. And yeah, we're now delving into

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a new side of things with a bit more of

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a creative flow. I've been running Creative Coppers for I

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don't know how many years now. A few years. And

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it's now going to have a permanent home which is

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really exciting. Amazing. Amazing. Wendy. I'm Wendy.

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I'm married, I've got two grown up kids. I'm currently

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working as a Tyler and a bathroom fitter. But my

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health hasn't been quite so good just recently and that's

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forcing me in a good way to pursue my lifelong

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passion of art and craft. And I met Sarah just

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over a year ago actually doing a WIM HOF workshop.

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So Wendy was a participant on my very first workshop

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after I qualified last year and since. How nuts is

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that? That's crazy. And since then I've been going to

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her creative cuppers and probably about six weeks ago what

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has happened in my life has just pushed me into

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making completely different career choice. So I thought now's the

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time the kids have grown up. Maybe I can open

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that little art and craft shop that I wanted years

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ago and mentioned it to Sarah and she's actually I'm

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looking for a home for creative cuppers. So we started

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looking and everything has really snowballed really quickly and we

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found beautiful little shop in Beckles and, and. It'S just

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been so easy like to begin with it wasn't because

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we did find a different venue but that created a

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whole Lot of stress for us. And we realized. Pause,

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pause, pause for a second. Let's go back. Okay, okay,

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let's go back and then. We'Ll move into this. So

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firstly, I just want to set the scene of it

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for people that didn't watch the previous podcast. Sarah. When

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I met Sarah, she was very unwell. She was wheelchair

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bound most of the time. The first thing she said

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to me was, I'm not getting in that damn ice

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bath. I'll do the breath work, but I'm not getting

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in the ice bath. I really was so rude to

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you. When I run these

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workshops, I talk about autoimmune diseases, I talk about the

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benefits of the method. And Sarah, she paid a bit

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of attention and decided to give them the ice bath.

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And she did that and changed her life. She went

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from nine medications or 10 medications and staying 12 medications

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and staying in bed all the time to maybe a

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couple and hardly taking them. She went from being wheelchair

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bound and having a car that was disability car to

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actually selling her wheelchair and selling that car and living

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the life she loves. And that's what it's all about,

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right? This is what it's all about. And yeah, she's

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always been an entrepreneur, but she's never had, and I'm

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saying this for you, so she's never had the energy

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to be able to pursue that passion. Is that fair

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to say? Yeah. Yes. All the confidence. All the confidence.

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Yeah, yeah. And she went off and she went to

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Poland and did the WIM HOF and instructors course. And

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that's. No, that's no small feat. That's, yeah. Massive achievement.

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So well done for that. But during this whole process,

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Sarah has. She's always been very creative. She's been arty

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and she started running crafty cuppers and. Crafty cuppers. Crafty

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cuppers. It used to be crafty coppers. Yeah. And then

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we had to change it to creative coppers. Creative cuppers.

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Yeah. People, wherever you are. So creative coppers

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really started bringing people together and bringing people the ability

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to connect over art and be able to have

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a support group and a community and really talk about

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things in a different way, but also using this me

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methodology or mechanism to be better, to be healthier, to

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be happier. And you started doing this. And I remember

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the first time you spoke, you'd been doing it at

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home, charging people like five pounds. You know, if you

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were. Come on, Sarah, appreciate your value. Just

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char, what do you charge now? Most classes are between

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the 15 pound to 25 range, depending on what craft

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we're doing and things and what venue we're at because

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I've been obviously moving around different venues, which is why

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I'm so excited now to actually have a home and

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do this with Wendy. We'll get to that. We'll get

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to that. We'll catch that. So, you know, we. So

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this. Yeah, Sarah's amazing at art. She can, you know,

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do watercolors and she can do all sorts of things.

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that. That arty and Sarah worked for me for a

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while. Yeah, she helped with a lot of the workshops.

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We've done workshops together a lot and remain good friends.

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your own business. And I'm just so excited for this

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because this step into this next stage is so powerful

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and it's so empowering and it just gives you everything.

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Wendy, you said a little while ago, follow my passion.

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I feel Sarah's reading now following her passion. Tell me

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about your passion. For my whole life, I've loved art

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and craft. When I was younger, I used to draw

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lots. Never really followed it enough and took it up.

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Actually, it was a watercolor class that you did. Another

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thing you've introduced me to, I did one of Sarah's

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introductory watercolor classes and thought, oh, I can paint too,

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and actually found I was really enjoying it. So I've

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started watercolor painting. Making anything of my whole life, I've

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always tried to make things and I've always wanted to

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do things with my hands. Yeah, I've done some craft

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shows and some craft fairs in the last few weeks.

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So, yeah, that's what I love to do. And you

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sell your art as well. Yeah, and selling just bits

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of craft work and yeah, I love to do it

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and I love to sew, I love to crochet, which

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again, is another one of your creative covers that I

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learned that to do and. Yeah, anything. Making things. Yeah,

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that's what I like to do. So this piece of

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art comes into it. But I know Sarah, you bring

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something else to it. What do you. What else do

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you bring to it? Me? What do you mean? The

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wellness side as well or. Well, on the side. This

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idea that art is an enabler. Yeah. So for me,

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I remember being. I remember Ross, my husband, creating me

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a little art room inside because during lockdown, I realized

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that I could paint. I didn't real. I knew I

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was all right at school, but never really got on

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at school with it. And then my Grandma's cat actually

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passed away, and I needed to get a card or

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something, but it was locked down. Everywhere was shut. So

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I decided to get some watercolor pens and paint something.

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oh. And I really enjoyed it. I literally. I remember

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sitting in that little art room and thinking, I haven't

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thought about pain. I haven't taken any painkillers. I've not

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thought about anything else that's going on lockdown. All these

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germs that were going around and I was petrified of.

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I didn't think about anything apart from what I was

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doing in that moment and creating that little painting. And

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then it became a bit of a. I would say

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an addiction. But it was an escape. Especially like throughout

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the whole of lockdown and the second lockdown. And then

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because I was at risk, lockdown for me didn't finish

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until a lot longer after. And so I just carried

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on doing all my arts and crafts and things. And

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then I started making concrete gunks that Ross was outside

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mixing up the concrete for me, and I was putting

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it in the molds and then painting them all. And

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it just took me to a completely different place. And

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that's what I loved sharing with other people is igniting

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that little bit of spark in them when they realize,

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oh, I campaign, like, I can do this. And actually,

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I'm really enjoying it. And the fact that I hear

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people at the classes and workshops saying, I've not thought

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about anything else. I've not thought about bills. I've not

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thought about the argument that I had with my husband

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last night. I've just been in the here and now

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and just enjoyed it. What I've experienced from coming to

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your creative couples, though, is groups of people that get

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together. And it's mostly women seem to be. But it's

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not exclusive to women. But they all sit there and

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we all. Nobody seems to moan about their husbands or

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moan about their jobs. Everything seems to be positive, and

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everybody just seems to get along, have a good time.

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You first get there, and everybody seems to be a

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bit nervous, and nobody really wants to say anything to

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anybody. Yeah. But within probably 10 minutes, 15 minutes at

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the most, everybody is relaxed, just getting to know the

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people sat next to them. I've been to a few,

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and I haven't known anything. Yeah. Yeah. And it's not

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really my thing. I didn't think it shocked me at

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how many people actually come on their own. And that's

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what I love about it, is that you can literally

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just turn up on your own and leave with two

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or friend. Two or two or three people that you

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now know. Yeah. And now they all come together. And

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I think. Yeah, it's really important to dig into. There's

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an excitement that you bring here as well, but there's

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a much deeper thing that you're bringing to this. Right.

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Yeah. We talk about being in the moment and we

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talk about that in my history of being in the

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moment. Right. My. My idea of being in the moment

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is jumping out of an airplane. Yeah. Or going diving

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30 meters underwater or getting into an ice bath, because

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that really does focus your mind. But that's not for

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everybody. Yeah. And you know, it is. It is for

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everybody, but they just don't know. Yeah. Yeah. And this.

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Yeah. How do we enable people to be present? How

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do we know them to be in that moment? Yeah.

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And what you're able to do, Sarah, is you're able

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to put people at ease. Right. Your energy brings it.

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Put them at ease. The way that you talk to

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them, the way that you engage people and bring them

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together, this all kind of. Yeah. Is key and foundational,

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I think, to working. You experienced Wendy with Sarah. Is

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that fair to say? Yeah, definitely. And that's what we

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hope to bring together to our workshops. Yeah. Isn't it?

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And now there's the next piece of this. You know,

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we're going in and you're teaching art, but you're not

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really, are you? Yeah, you're teaching. Yeah. There's so much

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more to it than just art for us, I think,

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especially you as well. Like now with everything, with you

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not being able to do your. All the stuff that

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you've been doing for all these years, like art is

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your therapy now as well. Yeah. Oh, totally. I will

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spend hours on an evening especially. My work is very

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heavy and manual, and it's really taken its toll on

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me. I've been doing it for the last 23 years,

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and I realized I now can't do it any longer.

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So in the evening, I do need to rest and

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I also have. Is that okay? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So she's got EDS as well. Yeah, we both have

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it. And her daughter as well. And so, yes, we've

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got that. Yeah, sure. But in the evenings, rather than

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sit and watch and telly, if I have got time

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to rest, I will sit and paint. I will sit

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and craft. I would just spend a few. I will

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get lost for hours just sitting there painting. And that's.

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So let's. Let's just talk about annual syndrome. Yeah. Yeah.

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What is this? And yeah, I don't need to just

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tell you. I don't want you to tell me that

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this is what the description is. Yeah. I want you

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to tell me what it actually does to you in

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the day. What is. I remember you calling me once

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from the car and say, oh, I think I'll just

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look out of my knee. Oh, God. Yeah. Yeah. What

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is this day to day? What does it mean for

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both of you? It's very different for you to what

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it is for me. Yeah. And that's why they class

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us as zebras, because, yeah, we're all very different because

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there are so many different variations and symptoms that you

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can have. For me. I have a whole lot of

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different symptoms. I have gut problems, I have. My spine

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has problems with it and my discs have problems. Partly

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probably because all my heavy lifting through my work. I

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have a pelvic prolapse, which is partly to it. A

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lot of aches and pains. Yeah. A lot of neck

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issues which caused me a lot of headache. Headaches. What

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else do I have? I don't know. There's a lot.

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We're both a bit loopy. We are a little bit

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loopy, but I think that's just us. Yeah. I just

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have to be really careful with what I do. Yeah.

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More so now. I know. I think an age thing

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as well. Nothing to do with age. Nothing to do

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with it. Yeah. Yeah. How old are you, if you

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don't mind me asking? I'm 52, 53. Oh, yeah.

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You got this. I've got more gray hair than both

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of you. Yeah. This is fake. Yeah. I

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was on a meeting yesterday and someone told me he

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had a machine that could potentially help me regrow my

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hair. And I thought, no, I'm good. I don't think

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you, I. You wouldn't be you if you. If your

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hair was like, different. My dad's been bald, for God.

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The snints I can remember my dad suddenly turned up

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on the drive in his Land Rover with hair. I'd

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be like, oh, my goodness, it's not the same person.

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Yeah. And let's talk about something other than my hair.

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But, yeah, you're going into this. You have a vision,

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you have a mission. And I wanted to go. I

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just wanted to start digging into some of the work

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that we've done together, Sarah, and some of the things

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that you've learned. And we will carry on doing this

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and we'll meet after this and go through some things.

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But you came along and you. This AI thing. What's

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this all about? I'm not going to be doing. That's

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just not me. I'm not the more at the moment.

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And Wendy, I think you'll probably agree that she doesn't

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spend a day without going on it 10 times at

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the moment. Right? Yeah, Honestly, I will. Hands down, I

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do not think I'd have had the confidence to do

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this and everything that I've been doing for the last

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year probably had I not have been taught that by

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you. There's no way it's rubbing off as well. Very

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good, very good. And this idea that AI is an

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enabler, it allows you to evolve. But I want to

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ask you a couple of questions around it. Firstly, do

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you think it's made you a better communicator? Absolutely. Generally,

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you know why? Because it's not that it's got into

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my brain, but what AI has done for me, especially

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chat, GPT and a couple of other things I use

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is it's been able. I can get out of my

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brain what stuck in there and on paper. And I've

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never ever been able to do that ever, because I'm.

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I've got severe dyslexia and I've. Because of how things

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that. From my childhood, I remember being told that I

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was thick so many times throughout my childhood and I

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believed that. And so even when it came to something

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simple like Facebook posts on my personal page, let alone

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my business page, I wouldn't ever have the confidence to

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put things on there because nine times out of 10

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I get a message from somebody saying, oh, you've spelled

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this wrong and that doesn't make sense. And now with

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me being able to. I literally talk to chat and

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just say, this is what I want to say. Can

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you help me put it into a proper sentence? Yeah,

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yeah. Because it just allows me to get out who

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and what I am onto a bit of paper or

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onto a laptop or onto a newsfeed or. It's amazing.

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This. This idea that so many people have around AI

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is going to make me dumb. And for me it's

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an evolution. Right. And so long as you're bookending it,

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somebody said to me the other day, I bookend AI

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with human. And that's so important. I bring my human

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first. Right. This is what I'm trying to say. This

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is why I'm trying to say it. This is the

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emotion bring to it. Yeah. Then a output something and

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it output something. That. Yeah, okay, that sounds like me,

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but ch. Just a book. And at the end of

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it, right, with human and then I put it out

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there, I'm like, okay, yeah, now that, that's. That's what

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I'm thinking. That's what I'm feeling. Yeah. And the reason

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I go into communication with AI is that when you

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first start using AI, it's really rubbish, isn't it? Yeah.

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You really do have to train it and let it

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get to know you. Not so much. No. You know

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what's changed? When you first started, you said, okay, I

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would like to have a letter, please, to marry you,

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to do this. So then it just makes it better.

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But then you start realizing that you're not being clear,

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you're not being conscious, you're not telling it what it

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needs to do and how it needs to do it.

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You're not telling the output you expected to be. So

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then you start changing how you communicate. And then you

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start realizing, actually, you know what? When I'm shouting at

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my kids because they're not listening to me, if I

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communicate a little bit better with them, just maybe they'll

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actually get it. Yeah. And I found this really filtering

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through my entire life in every different aspect, from my

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staff to my kids to partners to all sorts of

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things. And it's just been really informative. Yeah. Then the

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next piece you're talking there about this. I think AI

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is evolving the human mind. Right. It's allowing us to

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think outside of our mind. And what you're talking about

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there with the, you know, talking into it, that's my

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version now of journaling. I could never journal. You know,

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I tried to journal. I tried. Really? Yeah. I was

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like, firstly, I should have been a doctor because I

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can't write to save myself. Yeah. Secondly, Yeah. I think

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I've also got some of that dyslexia going on and.

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Yeah. ADHD and all these things, all these superpowers that

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we have. Yeah. So now I get up in the

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morning, I'm like, okay, chatgpt, I'm going to do a

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brain dump. Yeah. And I'm just going to get everything

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out. There's going to be a stream of consciousness. Yeah.

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And I want you to help organize my thoughts. Yeah.

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Yeah. And, yeah. Just empties the mind. Just entirely empties

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the mind. Yeah. And then it allows more space for

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the next bit of thinking. Yeah. Because now it's somewhere

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I can use it. I can copy it off for

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ChatGPT. I can put it out there or I can

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put it into my to do list. Yeah. So that's

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the next piece. And the third piece is we now

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Live in this age of information, Right. So information is

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free everywhere. Yeah. $20 a month. 20 pounds a month,

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whatever it is, will allow you to get access to

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every single piece of information in the world. You can

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have a thousand experts sitting in the room with you

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all day long. You just need to know how to

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talk to them. So now what we used to do

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in the past is we used to go and get

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a book, right? Then learn, read the book and learn

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the stuff and put it into our minds. Now we've

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got it, then we'd go and do something, forget some

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of it and we'll come back and we'd create something

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or we'd do something. Now we don't need to do

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that anymore. No. Now what we need to do, we

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need to know what the problem is and the context

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is. And then you can say to ChatGPT, this is

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what's happening. This is the problem I've got. Can you

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find me the ten best experts in the world that

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can help me fix this problem? And then ask me

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as many questions as you want to ask me to

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get to the bottom of this so we know exactly

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what's going on here. So you don't even need to

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know the information, you just need another problem and you

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can get it solved. So now instead of thinking in

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our minds, we can think outside our minds. Right. And

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this gives us more brain power to actually think about

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the things that we want. But importantly, we have to

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keep the thought ownership here, the thought leadership, because it

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can take you down some paths on it. Yeah. How

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many rabbit holes Welsh? Because mine used to do that

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all the time. I was Welsh and it talked to

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me in Welsh and I'm like, that's not my thing.

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Not Welsh. This is the AI piece. And yeah, we've

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spoken a little bit about your Wim Hof journey. And

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the next piece really is how do you set yourself?

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Because now you're going into a new game, right? Yeah.

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And you know, you need to look after yourselves. Yeah.

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Wendy, we. We got into a really good habit, actually,

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of every morning we were. You were coming around and

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we were sparkling. Yeah. So walking and. Yeah, we do

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our walks and all sorts. So we. We need to

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get probably back into it a little bit. That has

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slipped. Yeah. And this is it, right. We. We're

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human. So. Yeah. But this is the whole thing of

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it, and this is part of the elevate plan, is

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that you have to spend time on yourself. Sarah, we've

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had conversations about this so many times. Yeah. At the

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point where you were the worst. You couldn't look after

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people, you couldn't look after your family, you couldn't self.

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Yeah. But if you spend an hour every day can

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I have a commitment from both of you that you're

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going to spend an hour in yourselves every day? Yes.

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Yeah. I'm off to Poland in what's the day today?

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On the 5th of December I'm off to Poland again.

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Good. But you're still going to be spending more than

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an hour yourself every day Wendy. Then you need to

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be doing it yourself, right? Oh definitely. Yeah. So what

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is your morning routine? Not as good as that right

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now. Whereas we were really getting up Joe Dispenza meditation,

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breath work. Yeah. And then ice bath. Yeah. And we

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should be getting back into that right now and yeah.

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Especially going forward and especially once we have the shop

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because we will have that extra time because I'll be

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a little bit later. Yeah we can. That will be

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car sharing. Yes. We can have our daily routine. Yeah.

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And the importance. I can't really, I can't. For where

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you are on your journey. I can't stress this enough.

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Right. Yeah. If you are able to give yourself that

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extra 20% every day by doing. Yeah. Firstly longevity

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wise you're going to get better and better and better.

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Yeah. You're going to lose the weight that you want

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to lose. You're going to increase your body's ability to

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heal itself. You're going to do all these things but

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more importantly with the breath work you clear off the

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emotions from yesterday. You don't think about what other people

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are doing. With meditation you give yourself actually room to

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think. With the cold exposure, you give your body all

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the tools it needs to heal itself. You do that

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every day and you will take off. You don't. And

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in six months time you'll be joining the 70% of

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other small business owners that are near burnout. Yeah. That's

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the only reason why I've got where I am is

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because I put myself first. Yeah. Time for myself to

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do those things. I've been spending the last six months

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spending a lot of money, a lot of time and

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a lot of effort looking at every single biohacking thing

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that you can do. All the vitamins, you can do,

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all the peptides and the other things you can do

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to make yourself as fit and as young as possible.

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We're going into a new world now. It's an entirely

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new world with what's possible. They say in the next

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10 years there will not be a disease that's not

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curable because of AI. Hopefully. Fingers crossed. Yeah. So,

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yeah. What is it that you can do for yourself

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today? How can you invest in yourself? And this is

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the important thing is we don't invest in ourselves. We

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don't invest time, we don't invest money, we don't invest

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effort in ourselves. And if you do that. Yeah. Then,

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yeah, the sky's the limit. So every day, put an

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hour aside, do something and track it. Right. Yeah. You've

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looked at 90, Sarah. I think I sent you a

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link, but. Yeah. So you're gonna start, you're gonna sign

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up for 90, pay your. Whatever it is, 20amonth, whatever.

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Yeah. And put your wellness in there. Track it. Yeah.

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Don't aim for seven days a week, aim for four

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or five days a week. Yeah. And give yourself some

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time. Yeah. But I totally agree. Because we. Yeah, we

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do need that commitment. Yeah. Yeah. Because I think it's

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going to help just channel us on this. Yeah, exactly.

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Yeah. We know how much better we do after we

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get out of that ice bar. Yeah. When we were

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doing it before. Yeah. Yeah. This morning's ice bath was

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painful. I bought my 20, or what was it, 10

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days of ice yesterday, put it in, got out this

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morning, and at the top of the ice bath was

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frozen. What's the temperature there? It's about the same.

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It's probably a bit. It was frozen last night, so

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it must have been. Yeah. Zero. Why did you need

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ice? It hasn't been. Today's the first day. Okay.

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Yeah, yeah. And I like ice. It gives it a

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crunch. I like how it feels like if. You just

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eat a meal without any texture in it, it doesn't

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work. Very true. Yeah, yeah. It's. Yeah. Personal preference, but

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There we go. Mine's down to about 5 degrees at

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the moment. Yeah, yeah. So it's just this idea of

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look after yourself. First you've got the AI tools, now

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you're starting to use those. There's so much. You can

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do them. Yeah. You know how to look after yourself

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and you need to do it. Right. Yeah. And then

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it's the business stuff. Right. How do you grow and

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scale your business? And. Yeah. Our brains have been working

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overtime as we realized that if certain things don't take

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off, we have to make it work. Yeah. So we

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will do whatever it takes to make it work. So

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we have so many ideas of where this may take

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us. And it could grow and grow. Yeah. It could

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really take off. Yeah. And we've had a couple of

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conversations, Sarah. We'll have a Couple more. The thing is

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to try one thing properly first because you're at the

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moment, it is so tempting, you know, when something doesn't

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work straight away to go and do something else. Yeah.

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Oh, we'll just try that and we'll just try this.

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And you've got the journey of mastery. Right. The journey

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of mastery in the wind tunnel. If this is the

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indoor skydiving piece. Right. You're always looking at this goal

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in the future. Right. Okay, I want to do that.

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I want to do that. Yeah. And you don't look

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at the now as much. Yeah. So you're like, if

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only I could do that. I've had to learn to

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enjoy the journey because I'm never going to be as

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good as an 18 year old gymnast to be able

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to do everything. Yeah. So I mustn't look at them

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and say, if only I could do that. What can

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I do? But I've learned that every single small move

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takes a bunch of commitment that you need to do

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in order to take the next step. So you're like,

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okay, you start a TikTok server, had some pretty good

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success and then for 10 days and then you had

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some more success and then you stop for 10 days.

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Yeah. But we have to get this. And we've had

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this conversation. Yeah. So how do you make this part

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of what you're doing? Right. How do you actually incorporate

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this into your day? So now you finished your morning.

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Yeah. And you've got a nice clean brain. Yeah. Do

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something straight away. Yeah. Yeah. Just layer it in and

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you will blow up on tick tock as you go

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forward. If you just keep on doing the thing that

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you know how to do, you'll blow up on YouTube,

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you'll blow up wherever because you have a message, you

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have a passion. Wendy, where's your tick tock? Sarah's got

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to teach me how to even use tick tock. But

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we have said this is something we want to do.

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Yeah. To set something up and actually video content kind

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of every day if you can. Because we're really excited

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about the fact that we've got probably a lot of

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time. Yeah. Like we've just created a business where we

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can sit and craft. We could sit and just do

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the stuff we love to do. But in that same

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time we might have, I don't know if we're there

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in the shop for eight hours, we could craft for

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a couple of hours. Yeah. Paint for an hour. We

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could maybe do some paperwork if we feel. Yeah. But

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we can also create video content and Then upload it.

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So we're really excited by being able to share. Even

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if people can't get into the shop for some reason,

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they can see what we're doing in shop and they

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can even join later on our classes by Zoom. Yeah.

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Or we could do online tutorials. Yeah. And. Yeah. But

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just. There's so much with. Oh, yeah. Our brains just

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keep going. We could do this. Or we could host

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this and we could do this. Yeah. And just start

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a couple of threads. Start a thread each on ChatGPT.

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Yeah. Just pop those ideas in. Because the problem is

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as soon as you start thinking about these ideas, you

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:

give your energy to the future. Yeah. Right. And you

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take your energy away from today. One of my favorite

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things is you wake up in the day and first

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of all, you think about yesterday. You think about what

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you didn't do and think about all these things and

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you give some of your energy to yesterday and then

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you're like, okay, but I've got to get that done

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by this date and I've got it. And you start

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:

giving your energy away to tomorrow. Yeah. If you're giving

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30 away to send away to yesterday and 30 away

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to tomorrow, you're not. You're now losing. Yeah. 60 of

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:

your day. Yeah. So what are the tools that you've

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got that you can actually. Okay, chatgpt, just. This is

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:

an idea I've had. Just draw this idea thread. Yeah.

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And then we've spoken, Sarah, about the 90s stuff and

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the business operating stuff, and you've absorbed quite a bit

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of that over the years, I'm sure. And it's just.

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Yeah. You've got to. Have. You got to work on

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your business and you've got to work in your business.

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What is the difference? Quick time aside to. They say

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you should work 20% of the time on your business

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and then 80% in your business. Yeah. Because you don't

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want to visit the business that's totally reliant on you.

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No. Yeah. I like to think of business as a

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concept that I'm playing with, that a business is a

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baby. And you can. You. You're both mothers. Your mother,

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Wendy, you're both mothers, you've been there, you know this

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deal. So you decide, I'm going to have a baby.

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Yeah. You go through that whole pregnancy piece and you

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give birth and then you have two years or year

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and a half of not sleeping very much of a.

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And it's painful initially. Yeah. And now you've just given

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birth. Yeah. This is our baby. Yeah. Isn't It. Yeah,

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:

absolutely. We are our baby. And then you get to

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the terrible twos and there's all this kind of pain

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with that, and. But you go over that stage, you

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work your way through it, and slowly but surely you

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get up to the teenage years, and then there's all

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sorts of challenges. And the real risk is we get

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stuck in the teenage years. We get stuck in teenage

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years because we don't want to let go. We don't

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want the kids to leave the home. We don't want

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to be left alone. We don't want to let them

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be adults. And this is the same with the business,

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right? If. Unless you're in the situation where you're saying,

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okay, the purpose of the business is this. The vision

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is this, and it needs to be able to stand

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by itself without us being there. And that's what you're

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building towards. You want to be able to get to

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:

go on the holidays, do it. I've been to 25

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countries in the last two and a half years. Right.

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I've just finished in France. I was there for a

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week. I was in Egypt for 10 days. Free diving

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with dolphins. I'm now in the U.S. yeah, for two

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months. And this is because it's super important to me

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that the thing that I wanted from business was freedom.

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Yeah. I wanted the freedom to be able to do

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what I want to do. I love what I do.

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It just lights me up. But that doesn't mean that's

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all I want to do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you

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:

get stuck in that. That. That loophole. You get stuck

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in doing all those things in the way that you.

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This is what I need to do then. Yeah. It

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can become your prison quite quickly. Yeah, yeah. So we'll

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go through all of that. So now. Yeah, I just

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wanted to talk a little bit more about what you

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do. And this is something for the guests out there.

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What you do and what you've said to me you

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do is you tell me what you do. Tell me

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again in your business. That probably

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what. What is the business

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vision? Yeah. So we are the Craftery. And the Craftery

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:

is a safe and inviting place for people to come

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:

and sit and craft, to come and talk to us,

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:

to come and look at people's artwork and craft. And

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it's for local artists who want to sell their work

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as well, so that they've got somewhere. Because we've spoken

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to loads of people who have, literally. And some of

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them are from my classes, some of them are local

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artists and things. They've got houses filled with all their

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artwork and they've never either dared to sell them or

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found anywhere that they want to sell them. So we're

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that place for them. So a place where local artists

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can come and rent space and get to sell their

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artwork and put it on view for other people to

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see. Even if they're a beginner. That doesn't even. It's

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:

almost like a testing platform to see if their artwork

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:

will sell. So they could rent a small space just

642

:

to test to see if anybody wants to buy their

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artwork. And that first sale is. You remember when you

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sold your. Yeah. I was so excited that I actually

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:

first myself sold my first painting. Yeah. And somebody actually

646

:

wants to buy it. It doesn't actually matter how much

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:

it's for. It's the fact that somebody else wants to

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:

buy your work because you don't think it's good enough.

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But that's the kind of a testing platform for them.

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So it's all. It's just encouraging like people to be

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able to express themselves and put themselves out there when

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they wouldn't normally be able to. I want you to

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go back and I want you to think about this

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:

again because that's what you're doing. What

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:

are you solving? What pains are you solving? You know,

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:

what things for you has actually meant the most. Sarah,

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you said it so well earlier. I sat down there

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during COVID I started doing my art and I didn't

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:

think about the pain. I didn't think. It just took

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:

me into the moment. It gave me a focus. That's

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:

what you're doing. Yeah. Yeah. You're giving people a space

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:

to find themselves again. You're giving people a space to

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:

live in the moment. You're giving them other tools that

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allow them to navigate this entire pain point of the

665

:

world as it is. In the moment. You get to

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:

think more positive. You're getting them to get a community

667

:

of like minded people together. You're doing all, all of

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:

these things that if you get really focused on just

669

:

the art, you miss out on all this really important

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:

stuff that's really so important to you. Yeah. So it's

671

:

just that thought process of actually what are the pain

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:

points I'm actually solving? And I know pain points is

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:

not the best word to put in, but it is.

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And then what are those pain points? What emotions do

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:

they make you feel? Yeah. So if you think about

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how you felt before you did that and how you

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:

felt after, it's okay. Do you ever feel like this?

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:

Well, yeah. Yeah. This is a way that this is

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:

how I felt. And this is my story and this

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:

is what it's allowed me to do after that. Yeah.

681

:

And Sarah, your journey is obviously so inspiring because so

682

:

many people can look at you and say, okay, she's.

683

:

Yeah, you've had more in your place. Sarah's got or

684

:

had or has got. I don't know how we want

685

:

to say it, the five. Yeah. I've still got everything.

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:

Yeah. Five different autoimmune diseases. Fibromyalgia. Yeah. And a whole

687

:

bunch of challenges, thyroid issues, all sorts of things. But.

688

:

And if you can do it right, if you can

689

:

use this tool and this mechanism to enable you to

690

:

be your best possible self. Yeah. Then it gives people

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:

hope. And that's, for me, that's the power of what

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:

you're doing. Right. Yeah. And at the moment, in any

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:

case, like, you've heard me do it so many times.

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Right. I'll go and I'll learn Russell Brunson or I'll

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learn something else. And I'll spend this time and energy

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explaining to you about this thing because now I know

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it and I think you should know it. Right. Yeah.

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But if I just spent the time saying, this is

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the problem that is fixing. This is how you can

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fix that problem, then you engaged in actually doing that.

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Yeah. And Wendy, you said, yeah, yeah. You have this.

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Yeah. I've always been able to do this art, but

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I've never quite done anything with it. Yeah. So those

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people that have always been able to do the art

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and haven't done they. Your stories is as important. Right.

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This is where I was and this is what I

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was doing and I felt better doing it, but I

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didn't really know why I felt better. Now I know

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I feel better. Right. And now I'm help people get

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to that. Right. This is. This. It makes you much

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more human. It gives you much more depth in what

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you're doing and people get behind it. Anyway, that's just.

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Yeah. A thought to bring that to the front. Yeah.

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So excited about the. What I do. Don't forget why

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I do it. Yeah. Okay. People can find you where

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and they can, you know, how do they get hold

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of you? We are on Facebook, the Craftery Beckles. And

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then we've got an email as well. If you've got

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any questions or anything like that, which is the crafterybeckles

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gmail.com. Yeah. Just head to the Facebook page. Really? Yeah.

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Because then you can message us, you can WhatsApp us

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until we get our Instagram and tick tock all up

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and running and. Yeah, anybody else that's. But anybody

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else that's sitting there thinking about, I have an idea

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I want to. I would like to start. What advice

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would you give them? I'm gonna ask. Yeah, really, just

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do it. Just do it. We actually really have just.

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We literally have just done it. Six weeks ago, I

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was sat on that sofa. Wendy was sat on this

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sofa, and I said, if you want to do it,

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we might as well just do it now. And we

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literally. And that was what we did, started. Looking there

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and I think we had a shop viewing literally booked

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for the next day. And we've looked at three or

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four shops, haven't we? And, yeah, found our little quite

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scary. But we thought, actually, yeah, let's just do it.

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Let's just go for it. And, yeah, I think we've

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learned, especially this last year, life is too short. Yes.

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Yeah, yeah. And it is. You just go and do

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it. If you want to do it and you've always

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wanted to do it, just go and do it. I

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wish you the very best in your journey. I'll be

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following you very closely and we'll be talking a lot,

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I'm sure. Yeah, yeah. We'll have you back in a

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couple of months and we can get it up. Yeah,

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we'll be in the shop then. Yeah, yeah, we could

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do it for in there too, hopefully. Yeah. Very good

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luck and thank you for joining Power Movers. Thank you

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very much for having us. Thank you.

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